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SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
"ONE of Australia's foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels has written a peer-reviewed paper concluding that rises in sea levels are "decelerating".

And this guy is an advisor to the australian government.

"Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great "it is clear there is a serious problem with the models".

Gee , and i was told there was general consensus by scientists that global warming was going to create huge sea level rises.

"What we are seeing in all of the records is there are relatively high rates of sea-level rise evident post-1990, but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," he said.

Let me repeat that please ."but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," um, arnt they talking about a max of 2 to 3 hundred year historical record , or less?
Sheesh. I cant quote more from this artical cos of the rules of this site so heres a link
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]

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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
Probably you shouldn't have gone for catchy, just one that isn't pure BS.
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
"They" have been talking up sea level rises due to global warming for so long , using predictave modeling, only they forgot to check recorded measurments.
Who was it that said measurment is the only true and accurate scientific method.
Carbon tax , anyone?
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
Probably you shouldn't have gone for catchy, just one that isn't pure BS.
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PURE bs ?
how so?
you didnt read the artical did you.

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SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
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For sea level rises to slow there have to be sea level rises.

So how are rising sea levels a hoax.

Because you want it to be? No matter the facts?
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And why are you anti-doom anyway.
That's anti-GLP!
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Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
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For sea level rises to slow there have to be sea level rises.

So how are rising sea levels a hoax.

Because you want it to be? No matter the facts?
book
And why are you anti-doom anyway.
That's anti-GLP!
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


well , the rising sea levels are DECELERATING not ACCELERATING. The so called models, and the so called scientific consensus that the world ptb use to push for a very lucrative carbon trading scheme is a hoax.

And yes the article does say that there is some sea level rises but these are NOT unprecedented in even our short recorded history.And are HUGELY smaller than those predicted by the the very science used to persuade us to embrace an expensive carbon based economic burden.

So let me explain the significance again. We have a very creditable climate change scientist stating in a peer reviewed paper that sea level rises are in fact within the bounds of historical variation and that our modeling is wrong.The debate on climate change is not over despite our govt keeping on sprouting that line of bs.Hoax. Not all creditable scientists back the party line despite our govt sprouting the old generalisation of broad scientific consensus. Another hoax. Have they done a census on this point? Not that i have been able find,and since my taxes would have paid for it then it would be available to me.(sarc)

and um as for being anti doom and therefore anti-glp well i thought this was a conspiracy site not a doom pit. i see carbon trading as conspiracy by tptb. but hey, a carbon tax could spell financial doom for many.lol 08
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
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For sea level rises to slow there have to be sea level rises.

So how are rising sea levels a hoax.

Because you want it to be? No matter the facts?
book
And why are you anti-doom anyway.
That's anti-GLP!
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


The carbon tax here in OZ IS doom on baby.

Think about the implications.

The populace of a nation is being taxed for their 'scientific basis'.

That alone brings their 'scientific basis" under scrutiny.
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
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For sea level rises to slow there have to be sea level rises.

So how are rising sea levels a hoax.

Because you want it to be? No matter the facts?
book
And why are you anti-doom anyway.
That's anti-GLP!
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


The carbon tax here in OZ IS doom on baby.

Think about the implications.

The populace of a nation is being taxed for their 'scientific basis'.

That alone brings their 'scientific basis" under scrutiny.
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yep , i think your right.
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
I have been visiting the same little spot on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico for the last 40 years. The sea level there has not risen an inch.

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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
"ONE of Australia's foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels has written a peer-reviewed paper concluding that rises in sea levels are "decelerating".

And this guy is an advisor to the australian government.

"Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great "it is clear there is a serious problem with the models".

Gee , and i was told there was general consensus by scientists that global warming was going to create huge sea level rises.

"What we are seeing in all of the records is there are relatively high rates of sea-level rise evident post-1990, but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," he said.

Let me repeat that please ."but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," um, arnt they talking about a max of 2 to 3 hundred year historical record , or less?
Sheesh. I cant quote more from this artical cos of the rules of this site so heres a link
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
 Quoting: option8


Bloody creepy avatar gif btw!
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
I have been visiting the same little spot on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico for the last 40 years. The sea level there has not risen an inch.
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im hearing ya.
i guess in the future we could use the oil stain in the gulf as a tide gauge.
are you eating the sea food there yet E-T?

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coastal engineer Doug Lord who worked with Phil Watson to study the historical tide values has been "let go" from his government job and have peer-reviewed scientific papers pulled at the last minute from a conference in Shanghai last year, from a conference in Perth in September and from a journal where they were to be published this year. "

this seems to be consistent with the politicising of the global warming debate ,aka climategate 2.0, remove any inconvienient data from the debate any way they can.(my comment)

quote "Not only that, but he was banned by his bosses at the NSW environment department from representing Engineers Australia, whose national coastal committee he chaired, at a 2009 parliamentary inquiry into managing climate change. The irony is that he is not even a sceptic.

“I’m not a climate change sceptic. I believe in the climate change science but I see the need for the real data to be out there,” he said.

Revolutionary concept. " end quote

these coments are taken from a blog of Miranda Devine of the Telegraph newspaper australia.
heres a link to the whole artical

[link to blogs.news.com.au]
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quote: "With colleague Phil Watson, Lord examined 110-year tide gauge records from Fort Denison in Sydney Harbour, and other sites. They found the sea level was rising at less than 1mm a year, contrary to previous estimates of 6mm a year.

In 2009 Watson published the results, putting the lie to Penny Wong’s claims sea level rises would wipe out beaches and hundreds of metres of coastline. “The analysis reveals a consistent trend of weak deceleration at each of these gauge sites throughout Australasia over the period from 1940 to 2000,” he wrote in the Journal of Coastal Research.

The NSW environment department responded to media reports by claiming Watson had been “misrepresented”.

But Lord and Watson weren’t trying to make trouble. Quite the opposite. They kept looking at the data, “trying to see if there was acceleration”, says Lord. “We looked at it over a range of time frames and the whole record. But we could find no discernible acceleration.”

This was an inconvenient truth to governments who were busy beefing up climate risk assessments at the time. The federal government predicted a sea level rise of 1.1m by 2100. NSW came up with 0.9m.

But Lord’s data showed they had exaggerated the rise by 1000 per cent. His measurement of 1mm a year gives you a sea level rise of no more than 90mm, (0.09m) by 2100."
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
I have been visiting the same little spot on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico for the last 40 years. The sea level there has not risen an inch.
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Don't you know that the sea level only rises at islands in the middle of the ocean???
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wait theres more

"Last year, Lord and Watson were banned from presenting three papers they had prepared for the International Conference on Coastal Engineering in Shanghai.

“(At the time) the government was finalising its sea level rise policy,” he said. “I was told [the department] wouldn't support the three papers because they weren't consistent with the policy that was being developed.”

By this stage, Lord had lost his job, after a departmental “restructure”.

Nevertheless, he and Watson wrote another paper, which was peer-reviewed and approved for publication in the journal of Australian Civil Engineering Transactions. In September, just before publication, the department refused Watson, still an employee, permission to publish.

Then a conference paper the two men were to present at a Coasts and Ports conference in Perth was pulled."


i wont post any more, you need to read mirandas work .
but you get the point. these are credible scientists doing climate research being vilified for presenting their work for peer reveiw.

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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
"ONE of Australia's foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels has written a peer-reviewed paper concluding that rises in sea levels are "decelerating".

And this guy is an advisor to the australian government.

"Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great "it is clear there is a serious problem with the models".

Gee , and i was told there was general consensus by scientists that global warming was going to create huge sea level rises.

"What we are seeing in all of the records is there are relatively high rates of sea-level rise evident post-1990, but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," he said.

Let me repeat that please ."but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," um, arnt they talking about a max of 2 to 3 hundred year historical record , or less?
Sheesh. I cant quote more from this artical cos of the rules of this site so heres a link
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
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WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
Big fail
[link to www.abc.net.au]
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
"ONE of Australia's foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels has written a peer-reviewed paper concluding that rises in sea levels are "decelerating".

And this guy is an advisor to the australian government.

"Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great "it is clear there is a serious problem with the models".

Gee , and i was told there was general consensus by scientists that global warming was going to create huge sea level rises.

"What we are seeing in all of the records is there are relatively high rates of sea-level rise evident post-1990, but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," he said.

Let me repeat that please ."but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," um, arnt they talking about a max of 2 to 3 hundred year historical record , or less?
Sheesh. I cant quote more from this artical cos of the rules of this site so heres a link
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
 Quoting: option8



WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
Big fail
[link to www.abc.net.au]
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supplementing your big fail claim with a pdf is a double big epic fail. You fail.

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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
I have been visiting the same little spot on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico for the last 40 years. The sea level there has not risen an inch.
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Don't you know that the sea level only rises at islands in the middle of the ocean???
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LOL
I guess these intelligent people (AL GORE) never takes erosion into account. Seriously, who sets up a community on a pile of sand in the middle of the ocean ?
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
SEA LEVEL RISES ARE SLOWING!
"ONE of Australia's foremost experts on the relationship between climate change and sea levels has written a peer-reviewed paper concluding that rises in sea levels are "decelerating".

And this guy is an advisor to the australian government.

"Dr Brady said the divergence between the sea-level trends from models and sea-level trends from the tide gauge records was now so great "it is clear there is a serious problem with the models".

Gee , and i was told there was general consensus by scientists that global warming was going to create huge sea level rises.

"What we are seeing in all of the records is there are relatively high rates of sea-level rise evident post-1990, but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," he said.

Let me repeat that please ."but those sorts of rates of rise have been witnessed at other times in the historical record," um, arnt they talking about a max of 2 to 3 hundred year historical record , or less?
Sheesh. I cant quote more from this artical cos of the rules of this site so heres a link
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
 Quoting: option8



WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
Big fail
[link to www.abc.net.au]
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supplementing your big fail claim with a pdf is a double big epic fail. You fail.
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Quoting anything THE AUSTRALIAN says = bigger FAIL

debunked and shown to be TOTAL CRAP long ago

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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
Well, its fysics
and not really that hard and can be compared with melting an ice cube in a glass of water

If you have a glass half filled with water and put an icecube in it, the water level will be higher than when it melts

meaning, once the ice in the glass melts, the waterlevel will lower itself

why ? ..because ice takes up more volume than water ...
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
Well, its fysics
and not really that hard and can be compared with melting an ice cube in a glass of water

If you have a glass half filled with water and put an icecube in it, the water level will be higher than when it melts

meaning, once the ice in the glass melts, the waterlevel will lower itself

why ? ..because ice takes up more volume than water ...
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what if you put the ice on a grate so all the ice is above the water, but when the ice melts, the water will drip into the glass?
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
Well, its fysics
and not really that hard and can be compared with melting an ice cube in a glass of water

If you have a glass half filled with water and put an icecube in it, the water level will be higher than when it melts

meaning, once the ice in the glass melts, the waterlevel will lower itself

why ? ..because ice takes up more volume than water ...
 Quoting: Amanapples goes Doomwaffles


what if you put the ice on a grate so all the ice is above the water, but when the ice melts, the water will drip into the glass?
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lol , good question , but not really apliccable to the polar icecaps is it ...remember titanic lmao
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Re: Credible scientist debunks rising sea levels hoax - sorry, cant think of a catchier title.
how about this from the wallstreet journal :

Last week, 5,000 files of private email correspondence among several of the world's top climate scientists were anonymously leaked onto the Internet. Like the first "climategate" leak of 2009, the latest release shows top scientists in the field fudging data, conspiring to bully and silence opponents, and displaying far less certainty about the reliability of anthropogenic global warming theory in private than they ever admit in public.

heres the link for the whole piece.
[link to online.wsj.com]

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