Why "aren't" we being contacted?

Because those little grey #@^%$ers know if they dare show their face around here millions of people like me worldwide would blow their little grey heads off on sight.

I have long suggested that any intelligent extraterrestrial species that did NOT have malevolent designs on our planet and/or species would have a giant "no-fly zone" set up around our entire solar system.

"Humanity? They can't even stop fighting each other long enough to establish a permanent presence on their own moon!"

Any landings are possibly the ET equivalent of stupid teenagers taking the family sedan out for a joyride and running it into the crazy neighbor's yard.

Aliens are a con job, OP.

You need to familiarize yourself with the work of Bill Cooper. He thought aliens were real for years until he realized it was a big distraction to keep your eyes away from the (human) psychopaths running the world.

But why would you? What drives you to want to destroy what you do not understand? What if they came to bring endless leisure, health, and beauty for everyone? I mean, you wouldn't even want to hear them out?

This is what I am talking about, it's really primitive to want to destroy what you do not understand or what is different. Which is why Earth is the pariah of the Universe.

I am really trying to understand why you feel this way.

Not stopping to think for a moment that they might be here to give us the secret of zero-point energy, matter transmutation, or any of a million other hypothetical technologies that might lift our civilization to a higher level of existence?

I sincerely wish that our species were open-minded enough for intelligent beings to consider us worthy of their attention...

That is astute that it scares me a bit. We are the "haunted road" of the Universe. What a legacy we're leaving.

Alien youths on their "rumspringa" take their alien dad's ole 76 spaceship out and come to taunt us.


Sigh...

With ambassadors like this sending their hate out over informational networks that are likely visible to an civilization that has advanced to the point of being capable of interstellar travel...

No wonder.

No.
a/ It would completely destroy my concept of reality
b/ If they are material biengs that could survive in out atmosphere, what makes you think they wouldn't try and take over the planet? With superior technology to ours, trusting them is not a chance we could afford to take.

So true. So true.

I would think that a species advanced enough to come visit us would have the technology to solve a lot of our major problems.

But yet, our first primitive thought is: they want my train seat! KILL them!

Like I said in the other thread, Earth is like a perpetual "Shark Week".

The good on this planet falls far short of the ability we have to destroy. sad.

I would encourage you not to be pessimistic.

The good on this earth is a vast, often-untapped resource.

I firmly believe that we have it within our power to build a united civilization that will empower our species to travel to the stars and maybe, just maybe, be judged worthy of joining with the great powers out there.

If they had such a superior technology, what makes you think that they even need what Earth has? Maybe they've evolved so much that they enjoy tooling throughout the Universe and fixing lesser planet's problems?

Kind of like what we here on Earth call "Humanitarians", "Volunteers" or "Missionaries"

Just, keep your mind open to the possibility that there is a better chance if they exist, they have evolved out of seek and destroy and evolved into, what can we do to help?

I can only hope that someday we will be staring at our glowing rectangle of choice and suddenly see/hear something like:

"This is Captain Kalmaku of the Federation Starship Ardent Peace. We have to come to deliver critical supplies and prevent a major natural disaster. Please contact your local leaders and ask them to support us as we help you through this time of crisis."

Hey OP

Why don't they privately introduce themselves to you since you're soooooo open-minded? (Open-minded enough to let any fairytale fall into your head, apparently)

Do you trouble yourself to look through an entire container of mostly-rotten strawberries to find the one good one?

I would hazard a guess that you probably just go looking for a better container, or maybe even a different store.

Perhaps they have a King over them - and they are waiting for the command.

No because Most humans are blind to the truth. The ones that do know the truth are unfortuanyly the most sick and evil people to ever come to immagination and they are running this plannet for the time being.

Hmmmm.............you missed the memo. ET's have been working and living on military bases for decades.
Millions of normal people have had contact experiences.

Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it hasn't or isn't happening.

BTW, Bill Cooper is full of disinformation.

I sincerely hope that this is true.

I would love a chance to meet them, but since I am not associated with the government, I doubt that I'll get the opportunity.

Honestly, I would be a floor-shiner on any interplanetary space ship. Just let me see the stars sliding by...

Dumb analogy.

We have a multi-trillion dollar dragnet to identify people's personalities, beliefs, political orientation, etc.

All of this data is centralized in a few databases.

Aliens are smart enough to make it here but not access the databases to discern who is interesting and who is not almost over night?

Presuming, of course, that a sufficiently advanced race capable of interstellar flight didn't have a better idea.

Personally, I think it's most likely on the order of the "Prime Directive" in the Star Trek universe. We are simply not advanced enough to handle interacting with the galactic community. We're short-sighted, self-destructive, racist, nationalist, and a dozen other "ists" that would exclude us from any truly rational group of beings.

I love this analogy. Earth as it is is that rotten container of strawberries that I set aside to look for one without mold in it.

To the other-person that Clear-minded responded to, I am merely posing a question. It is obvious to me that if Earth exists within this endless universe, then surely other more advanced beings exist outside of our solar system.

Math would guarantee it.

So you think aliens believe in collective guilt?

Or they judge an entire race by the worst amongst us?

Or ... what, exactly, is the reason they wouldn't be interested in the best amongst us?

Or do you hate yourself and your race as much as it seems you do?

Math would guarantee it.


Ahhh, a mathematician! As I am sure you know from years of meticulous study, math is carefully constructed axiomatic logic system. I'll patiently await your axioms and proof.

I completely agree. Shark week every week.

Let's say that you have a favorite beach you love to go to. But you know and it has been proven that for 2 weeks out of a year, that that beach is shark infested. Unless you wanted a limb eaten off, you would avoid that beach for those two weeks. At least I would hope so.

So, maybe, humanity as it is present day, is within that two week period. Three weeks from now (Perhaps a millenia away still), aliens arrive and welcome us into the Universal Federation.

PERIPRASIS (language is the barrier)

how can a higher dimension being communicate with a terrestial?

these CREATURES talk in their old language called AKASHIC that can only be understood by them.

do we expect them to talk in english, chinese. etc?
We were given letters and numbers to communicate, ALPHANUMERICS is the best way to communicate with them.
Can you understand the LANGUAGE brought down on Earth
through symbolism too found on old churches, cropcircles,
binary codes, etc.

if we want to connect with them when let us say we are at dimension 3 and they are at dimension 5. they must descend
on dimension 4 from dimension 5 and we must ascend to dimension 4 from dimension 3 so that there will be connection.

Do you expect them to appear physically on dimension 3? there will always a meeting point that both parties must reach out.

There are several contactees from different countries who remain silent. they have SILENT WINGS...

Oh, I don't hate myself or my species. What I despite is close-mindedness. I despise hate. I despise greed.

All of these are not only present in human society, but in vast abundance and, in many cases, are glorified by the philosophies of our societies.

As to why they would (conceivably) not be interested in the best of us: would you be interested in holding a philosophical conversation with the best student in Mrs. Jones pre-K class?

Despite our pretense to the contrary, humans are to an space-travelling civilization as ants are to humanity.

Think of a person looking at an ant hill. The person observing the ant hill is the alien and the ants are us...sure it's interesting. We know a lot about ants. We've observed the social structure, their limited technology. All that given, why would you share you knowledge and technology with a bunch of ants?

Why don't you prove me wrong? After all, an axiomatic logic system is assumed to be true. You do believe that in this vast Universe, that does not end, we are it? Isn't that a bit narcissitic?

By the by, I am not a mathematiician. I just go by my own internal logic. If that's not enough, sorry.

Yikes. I'm starting to like your analogies. Let's see where we can take this.

As to why they would (conceivably) not be interested in the best of us: would you be interested in holding a philosophical conversation with the best student in Mrs. Jones pre-K class?

This is a pretty revealing statement. You obviously never impressed an adult at the age of four. Needless to say, the same isn't true of all of us. I was dancing circles around adults by the time I was four, much to the delight of my mother and bewilderment of normal people.

Despite our pretense to the contrary, humans are to an space-travelling civilization as ants are to humanity.

Hmm ... don't we study ants quite extensively? Even interact with them? This analogy seems to suggest that, even if we were to accept your ridiculously harsh and unfounded contempt of our race, aliens would still be interested.

I wouldn't! That's my issue, we are the ants of the Universe. We are the "meh", they seem mean of the Universe. I would avoid us at all costs. It's sad.

How much is out there that we are not aware of only for the fact that we are basically stupid (fighting over a train seat? Really) and just plain mean.