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Jesus' Twelve Women Apostles

 
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Thanks Ohwow , Quote Ireland

No, Thank you! I come on here thinking someone is wanting to understand the truth in God's Word, you recognized the set up for what is was from the start
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Veto...those thoughts, as your post reeks of female worship and supposed superiority... and is as bad as male superiority and machoism.. Female machoism is just as wrong.

Try again... find equality and mutual respect and then you will be on the road to peace and even reproduction.
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I found peace and forgiveness from god along time ago. This post was not about superiority of any gender I was just adding to the conversation, posing questions, nothing more. Men and women are equal, together they are balance. However women in the beginning where revered long before man, this did not make than any higher or superior, this was just so, as explained in my post about the ancients knowing this.

Women however do not need men to reproduce, this is fact and only women can bring forth life, which is why they were revered. Then men gained power and repressed the women.
The pendulum swings both ways-first from women, then to men now it is going back to the woman.

However the male species is dying out, so all you will have left in the end is one being, neither male or female just one race-the human race. This will stop the conflict about who is more superior than the other, when the fact is we are all the same-one race, it is people who divide.
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Power and life comes from the women. The ancients knew this and that is why they revered the woman. Only a woman can bring forth life and doesn't need a man to do this. Without women men would cease to be as they cannot bring create life.

It was men who oppressed the female and drove it underground and have dominated ever since (at least they have on the surface) but now the tables are once again turning, this is balance. Ever wondered why women are becoming more men like?
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not sure but I think it may be because a woman must also experiance her masculine side, and a male must too expeirance his feminine side...they must learn to balance masculine and feminine...
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This is correct. Everyone has male and female qualities (positive/negative-both sides of the coin etc), to find balance you need to learn, experience and find balance of both sides to become whole. Women are becoming more male and men are now becoming more female, in the end you will not have male and female only one being-one race. The human race.

This is evolution and where we are all heading in the long run.
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Women are far inferior to men, you pussy whipped feminist. Women are parasitic walking wombs who live to fuck, get preg and bloodduck stupid men like you. Go kill yourself, loser.
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Women are far inferior to men, you pussy whipped feminist. Women are parasitic walking wombs who live to fuck, get preg and bloodduck stupid men like you. Go kill yourself, loser.
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What a great example of the human race you are!
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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

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I just looked at your website. You know you're completely off your rocker? Your website is full of terrible lies and deceptions. I pray that you see this before it's too late.
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Women are far inferior to men, you pussy whipped feminist. Women are parasitic walking wombs who live to fuck, get preg and bloodduck stupid men like you. Go kill yourself, loser.
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The worldly man has spoken and speaks as do the religious heathen that also believe women are inferior and should shut up and never speak or teach.

Jesus taught different
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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

[link to www.davidjayjordan.com]
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I just looked at your website. You know you're completely off your rocker? Your website is full of terrible lies and deceptions. I pray that you see this before it's too late.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


There Lisa, you must feel better about yourself after saying that. But where is your website, or anyone HERE's website if mine is so evil and devoid. I keep adding articles to increase faith, and yet you have none. But if your negative damnation of mine is true, why are you not working harder than I in witnessing your truths to others. Why so lazy...if you have the truth. And if I have it not for these last 40 years, why have I worked so hard putting His truths down.

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Do answer Lisa ?

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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

[link to www.davidjayjordan.com]
 Quoting: Davidjayjordan


I just looked at your website. You know you're completely off your rocker? Your website is full of terrible lies and deceptions. I pray that you see this before it's too late.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


There Lisa, you must feel better about yourself after saying that. But where is your website, or anyone HERE's website if mine is so evil and devoid. I keep adding articles to increase faith, and yet you have none. But if your negative damnation of mine is true, why are you not working harder than I in witnessing your truths to others. Why so lazy...if you have the truth. And if I have it not for these last 40 years, why have I worked so hard putting His truths down.

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Do answer Lisa ?
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It doesn't take a having a website for knowledge or Knowledge...your failure to see that is a big part of your issues.

of course...based off 7 years of traceable internet blogging as a sample...in which you have been lying and hunting


you have been doing your own work(s), not God's and not Jesus'

you left it all out there to be seen, David, and it shows you as a heretic and a charlatan and a wolf...not a missionary for Good
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There Lisa, you must feel better about yourself after saying that. But where is your website, or anyone HERE's website if mine is so evil and devoid. I keep adding articles to increase faith, and yet you have none. But if your negative damnation of mine is true, why are you not working harder than I in witnessing your truths to others. Why so lazy...if you have the truth. And if I have it not for these last 40 years, why have I worked so hard putting His truths down.
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That's the problem with you. You don't know what truth is. You document LIES! These lies have been pointed out to you repeatedly but you ignore them. Whatever god you worship apparently endorses LYING, if you are one of his "beloved". For some weird reason, you believe that the very fact that you have a website, as ridiculous as it is, somehow validates everything that you do in the sight of your god. Don't you realize that most of the visits to your website come from some curiousness as this?


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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

[link to www.davidjayjordan.com]
 Quoting: Davidjayjordan


It was Mary Magdelene's female apostles... and there were only 6. Mary and Jesus were married. Back in that day the men studied with men and women studied with women.
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Women are far inferior to men, you pussy whipped feminist. Women are parasitic walking wombs who live to fuck, get preg and bloodduck stupid men like you. Go kill yourself, loser.
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wow all I can say is that you must hate your own mother thus you will never have a real relationship and sacred orgams with a lady... you are missing half of the world, man. What you say is really something you feel about your own self... be careful!
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There Lisa, you must feel better about yourself after saying that. But where is your website, or anyone HERE's website if mine is so evil and devoid. I keep adding articles to increase faith, and yet you have none. But if your negative damnation of mine is true, why are you not working harder than I in witnessing your truths to others. Why so lazy...if you have the truth. And if I have it not for these last 40 years, why have I worked so hard putting His truths down.
 Quoting: Davidjayjordan


That's the problem with you. You don't know what truth is. You document LIES! These lies have been pointed out to you repeatedly but you ignore them. Whatever god you worship apparently endorses LYING, if you are one of his "beloved". For some weird reason, you believe that the very fact that you have a website, as ridiculous as it is, somehow validates everything that you do in the sight of your god. Don't you realize that most of the visits to your website come from some curiousness as this?


[link to www.noanswersingenesis.org.au]
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There Lisa, you must feel better about yourself after saying that. But where is your website, or anyone HERE's website if mine is so evil and devoid. I keep adding articles to increase faith, and yet you have none. But if your negative damnation of mine is true, why are you not working harder than I in witnessing your truths to others. Why so lazy...if you have the truth. And if I have it not for these last 40 years, why have I worked so hard putting His truths down.
 Quoting: Davidjayjordan


That's the problem with you. You don't know what truth is. You document LIES! These lies have been pointed out to you repeatedly but you ignore them. Whatever god you worship apparently endorses LYING, if you are one of his "beloved". For some weird reason, you believe that the very fact that you have a website, as ridiculous as it is, somehow validates everything that you do in the sight of your god. Don't you realize that most of the visits to your website come from some curiousness as this?


[link to www.noanswersingenesis.org.au]
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Good for me, my words struck home and as the Lord's design infuriates those that preach chaos, luck and evolutionary chance. Thanks for the hyperlink, perverted one, it shows I am doing my job and doing it rather well.
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Women are far inferior to men, you pussy whipped feminist. Women are parasitic walking wombs who live to fuck, get preg and bloodduck stupid men like you. Go kill yourself, loser.
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wow all I can say is that you must hate your own mother thus you will never have a real relationship and sacred orgams with a lady... you are missing half of the world, man. What you say is really something you feel about your own self... be careful!
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True Steve, and they do need to be careful as they sink into total anarchy in their minds, anf total disrespect. But usually it only enrages them even more, as can be seen with others as well.
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Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed; then Eve. 14 And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression. 15 Yet she shall be saved through childbearing; if she continue in faith, and love, and sanctification, with sobriety.

THE WORD OF GOD.

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NOT the WORD of GOD EVER. Saved thru childbearing, gimme a break. What sort of "God" would ever say such a thing. These were confused peoples back then you know and you still are.
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As is consistent with the Lord, He always demonstrates what His principles are.... and so from the beginning has prophesied that the final Priest of the Tabernacle would be female and not male.

SEE discussion and proofs HERE at GLP

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Twelve Women Apostles of Jesus





"Of all the daring things which Jesus did, the most amazing
was his sudden announcement on the evening of January 16:
"On the morrow we will set apart ten women for the ministering
work of the kingdom." At the beginning of the two weeks'
period during which the apostles and the evangelists were to
be absent from Bethsaida on their furlough, Jesus requested
David to summon his parents back to their home and to dispatch messengers calling to Bethsaida ten devout women who had served in the administration of the former encampment and the tented infirmary. These women had all listened to the instruction given the young evangelists, but it had never occurred to either themselves or their teachers that Jesus would dare to commission women to teach the gospel of the kingdom and minister to the sick.

These ten women selected and commissioned by Jesus were: Susanna, the daughter of the former chazan of the Nazareth synagogue; Joanna, the wife of Chuza, the steward of Herod Antipas; Elizabeth, the daughter of a wealthy Jew of Tiberias and Sepphoris; Martha, the elder sister of Andrew and Peter; Rachel, the sister-in-law of Jude, the Master's brother in the flesh; Nasanta, the daughter of Elman, the Syrian physician; Milcha, a cousin of the Apostle Thomas; Ruth, the eldest daughter of Matthew Levi; Celta, the daughter of a Roman centurion; and Agaman, a widow of Damascus. Subsequently, Jesus added two other women to this group -- Mary Magdalene and Rebecca, the daughter of Joseph of Arimathea.

Jesus authorized these women to effect their own organization and directed Judas to provide funds for their equipment and for pack animals. The ten elected Susanna as their chief and Joanna as their treasurer. From this time on they furnished their own funds; never again did they draw upon Judas for support. It was most astounding in that day, when women were not even allowed on the main floor of the synagogue (being confined to the women's gallery), to behold them being recognized as authorized teachers of the new gospel of the kingdom. The charge which Jesus gave these ten women as he set them apart for gospel teaching and ministry was the emancipation proclamation which set free all women and for all time; no more was man to look upon woman as his spiritual inferior. This was a decided shock to even the twelve apostles.

Notwithstanding they had many times heard the Master say that "in the kingdom of heaven there is neither rich nor poor, free nor bond, male nor female, all are equally the sons and daughters of God," they were literally stunned when he proposed formally to commission these ten women as religious teachers and even to permit their traveling about with them. The whole country was stirred up by this proceeding, the enemies of Jesus making great capital out of this move, but everywhere the women believers in the good news stood stanchly behind their chosen sisters and voiced no uncertain approval of this tardy acknowledgment of woman's place in religious work. And this liberation of women, giving them due recognition, was practiced by the apostles immediately after the Master's departure, albeit they fell back to the olden customs in subsequent generations. Throughout the early days of the Christian church women teachers and ministers were called deaconesses and were accorded general recognition. But Paul, despite the fact that he conceded all this in theory, never really incorporated it into his own attitude and personally found it difficult to carry out in practice."

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The above was taken from an esoteric book, but seeing a few parts like this one, ring TRUE, I have reposted it. because we do know that te church Patriarchy tried to hide the freedom and equality that Jesus taught and lived concerning women. (SEE Equality not Patriarchy). For as He said to all, "For if ye (male and female) continue in my WORD, then are ye my disciples indeed and the truth shall set you FREE." (John 8; 31-32)

This excerpt is easy to understand ... and agrees totally with the principles of the Lord and so in my opinion. it is true History and is needed to be told to our women in the Lord to give them faith that they were loved by the Lord just like the men, and that they are needed for His Service just like the men, and they are totally equal to the men in their service. Our women do NOT have to take a subservient stance to men, or their worldly husbands, if they have the spiritual qualities needed for whatever the Lord wants them to do and are called by the Lord, their spiritual Bridegroom. All positions of responsibility have to be available to them if they are qualified, and by the Grace of God, they shall be because the Lord is not a sexist...... and they shall dream dreams and prophesy in the Latter Days (SEE Women Prophetesses in the End Time)

For we absolutely need them to carry on where their foremothers of the past left off. For notice from the listing above that Mary Magdalene, the 11th woman ordained by the Lord, (who probably won the 12th woman apostle, Rebecca, the daughter of Joseph of Arimathia) went together with Joseph and established the first missionary outpost in Glastonbury England. And it was thru them that much of the world was evangelized for the Lord via England's conversion and many of the Ten Missing Tribes of Israel -- that had fled in there after their fleeing from the Babylonian advance in Jeremiah's time. (SEE Church History, King Arthur and the Templars). So did we need our women... YES, and do we need them in the Latter Days YES !!! For there is neither male nor female in Christ Jesus. And so we better believe it. God bless the first 12 women apostles of the Lord !!!

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Now David be fair, the esoteric book you took this from was the Urantia Book.
And I introduced it to you I believe in the Mary M thread.
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Never have a principle if it is not backed up by various sources and various writings and innumerable proofs from your own experiences. Life is not a semantic search of twisted words and interpretations. Do not base your life on semantics and words, base it on much much much more.

And just because the devil throws a truth into his speech sometimes, that in no way means you should follow him and his eventual lies.

All paths and all sources and REAL LIFE point ot the fact of male and female EQUALITY.

Deal with it machos, whether you are male or female.
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Never have a principle if it is not backed up by various sources and various writings and innumerable proofs from your own experiences. Life is not a semantic search of twisted words and interpretations. Do not base your life on semantics and words, base it on much much much more.

And just because the devil throws a truth into his speech sometimes, that in no way means you should follow him and his eventual lies.

All paths and all sources and REAL LIFE point ot the fact of male and female EQUALITY.

Deal with it machos, whether you are male or female.
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You are such a walking ironic contradiction.

Follow you own advice...and screw that site of yours...

It's heresy, and no more.

To even gaze at that site could be considered a sin if you already knew that it was blasphemy...which it clearly is.

And instead of speaking in circles, why don't you answer any of the charges put to you with the links that show your confusion and/or lies?

Any of them...directly?

You won't, because beneath it all you are a coward of the lowest order.
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Jesus had twelve women apostles because He loved women as much as men. Equal. As he saw hearts and not genitals as do the heathen, who judge according to gender and not the heart and soul.

He tried to love the rebellious and contagerous and mean and wrathful, but they had hate in their hearts..SEE above and surely latter below.
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Jesus had twelve women apostles because He loved women as much as men. Equal. As he saw hearts and not genitals as do the heathen, who judge according to gender and not the heart and soul.

He tried to love the rebellious and contagerous and mean and wrathful, but they had hate in their hearts..SEE above and surely latter below.
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Hypocrit says what?

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thought so

you are dismissed once again, Charlatan
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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

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The 12 apostles were men, but Jesus had a lot of women disciples. This is true because i know it!
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If women are equal to men mentally, and spiritually, then why did not Jesus have 12 female apostles. Well, the truth is He did, even though few have heard about it. For they were faithful to HIM and never left him and witnessed for HIM and did an amzing job in spreading His message of love before the old patriarchical system took over once again.

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The 12 apostles were men, but Jesus had a lot of women disciples. This is true because i know it!
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You mean women can not serve the Lord or be apostles.. And Jesus knew it and therefore on;y selected men with balls as that apparrently is what it takes to have courage. Or are women equal to men...

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And the church men, shall surely say..

I dinno know, its just the way things are... its bible I saw a verse here or there... or something. I dunno knpw. Its the way ts always been kind of sort of, and I like it cause I's a man.
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And the church men, shall surely say..

I dinno know, its just the way things are... its bible I saw a verse here or there... or something. I dunno knpw. Its the way ts always been kind of sort of, and I like it cause I's a man.
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but you employ scripture for your heresy...

again, Hypocrite, your lies are exposed
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Looking at some of your threads your approach to the Bible is one of self (Mans)wisdom and tend to look at the Bible as literal as to when you choose. Learn how to do word study's and seek Gods understanding of his word.The Bible is a spiritual Book,Christ spoke in parables (Earthly story with a heavenly meaning).Understanding can only come if God has open our spirtual eyes to truth.We are to be as the "Berens" and search out the matter comparing scripture to scripture,spiritual to spiritual.

To come to truth in any subject matter it must harmonize with the "Whole Bible",this takes many,many hours of diligent word studies aided by the grace of God.I don't see when this principle is applied from any of your post.

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I go by principles from words that are repeated over and over and over again by numerous authors and the Lord and from life and from experience, and from the sciences as all things have to agree.

So SEE

Thread: Mathematical Exact Timeline of Prophecy Challenge

As it is a prophcy cha;llenge where pposters have to compile all the prophets timelines together into one timeline that leads to the Lord's Second Coming.

You are welcome to post your all inclusive timeline of all the prophets.
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