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Looks Like We Will Default!

 
wretchedfool

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either way we're going 3rd world with a quickness..
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Not necessarily. We will find ways to do just fine w/o our Federal Gov. In fact a default may convince state legislatures it is time secede. The Fed. Government only keeps the states down.

Cut that weight and they will soar.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Does this mean I will have to get a passport for interstate travel ? Will I need a green card if I plan a leangthy stay,or desire to move to another state?

I have a feeling this is going to suck !
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either way we're going 3rd world with a quickness..
 Quoting: ceawaves


Not necessarily. We will find ways to do just fine w/o our Federal Gov. In fact a default may convince state legislatures it is time secede. The Fed. Government only keeps the states down.

Cut that weight and they will soar.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Does this mean I will have to get a passport for interstate travel ? Will I need a green card if I plan a leangthy stay,or desire to move to another state?

I have a feeling this is going to suck !
 Quoting: wretchedfool


It was never needed before,why would it now? The states should by the Constitution have more authority than the Federal Government.The Federal Government has used one clause(commerce)to give itself almost unlimited power.Those powers need to be taken back by individual states.
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The sooner states realize they can stand on their own, the better. State legislatures can be self-relient. No it won't be a breeze. Yet it must be done.

Else we will get dragged down. The Gov. has already shown what damage they can do to states and harm to people. Time to end this Union. Now. Before we all are totally sunk.
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07/23/2011 03:46 AM
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The sooner states realize they can stand on their own, the better. State legislatures can be self-relient. No it won't be a breeze. Yet it must be done.

Else we will get dragged down. The Gov. has already shown what damage they can do to states and harm to people. Time to end this Union. Now. Before we all are totally sunk.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Yes the Americans get dragged down by who?? = by the republicans!!

Obama is fighting for the weak humans!!
Obama stand up for the weak!! the rich can miss it but are so fucking greedy that they never NEVER have enough!!!
many people don't even have food ore water, and the egoistic republicans just don't care no, they want more more more! strange country!! God bless Joe!


Go Obama Go for it, fight and DONT GIVE UP!!!!!

clappa
PhoenixMatthias (OP)

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President Obama wants to raise taxes. Let us not forget his policies and policymakers. They have not helped.

The Republicans are trying not to get taxes raised. Most republicans voted with the people against a healthcare bill no one in Congress really read.

The Democrats would have us taxed more. Obama and the Democrats are the problem.
PhoenixMatthias (OP)

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If anything the Republicans are siding with the people. Most people do not like the idea of Czars or anything else Obama has done. This country has gotten WORSE! His policies have made it worse. Where is the Hope and Change?! Tell me.

Tell me where is the Hope and Change? For part of his term, he had a Congressional majority. Where is the Progress? Where is the better economy? He is an enemy of the people.

We declare ourselves free from him and Washington DC. You go live in your socialist utopia. Leave us to improving our lives and trying to be successful.
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Our Fed. Gov. needs to get spending under control. It is a FACT that Pres. Obama signed into law more money-spending than any other Pres. in history.

Under Obama our ally Israel has been ridiculed and insulted and endangered. I am judging him on his character. His character is not good for this country's health.
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either way we're going 3rd world with a quickness..
 Quoting: ceawaves


Not necessarily. We will find ways to do just fine w/o our Federal Gov. In fact a default may convince state legislatures it is time secede. The Fed. Government only keeps the states down.

Cut that weight and they will soar.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Does this mean I will have to get a passport for interstate travel ? Will I need a green card if I plan a leangthy stay,or desire to move to another state?

I have a feeling this is going to suck !
 Quoting: wretchedfool


It was never needed before,why would it now? The states should by the Constitution have more authority than the Federal Government.The Federal Government has used one clause(commerce)to give itself almost unlimited power.Those powers need to be taken back by individual states.
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If the states sucseede from the Union how can we be sure that they will even abide by the US constitution ? The constitution is after all a federal document.If the states are no longer part of the federal union,then each state is likely to have its own laws, including laws regarding travel, and moving to and from the given state.
PhoenixMatthias (OP)

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Now, back to topic. The best way to avoid default is to cut spending. People don't need more taxes, either. He even said back in 2008 it's a rotten idea to raise taxes in a recession.

You tell people who are suffering where the "Hope and Change" is.
PhoenixMatthias (OP)

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If the states sucseede from the Union how can we be sure that they will even abide by the US constitution ? The constitution is after all a federal document.If the states are no longer part of the federal union,then each state is likely to have its own laws, including laws regarding travel, and moving to and from the given state.
 Quoting: wretchedfool


Many state Constitutions are similar to the Federal Constitution.

This is vital: back in the 1700's, states did not have a sense of unity. So it was harder to solve disputes.

Now we do have a sense of unity. That should make it easier to create compromises on issues such as travel, commerce, etc.
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if USA follows Ron Paul's advice and simply dismisses the debt owed to the FED than technically it will not be a default because the FED printed that shit up on a computer and its not real anyway.
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Not necessarily. We will find ways to do just fine w/o our Federal Gov. In fact a default may convince state legislatures it is time secede. The Fed. Government only keeps the states down.

Cut that weight and they will soar.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Does this mean I will have to get a passport for interstate travel ? Will I need a green card if I plan a leangthy stay,or desire to move to another state?

I have a feeling this is going to suck !
 Quoting: wretchedfool


It was never needed before,why would it now? The states should by the Constitution have more authority than the Federal Government.The Federal Government has used one clause(commerce)to give itself almost unlimited power.Those powers need to be taken back by individual states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1459281


If the states sucseede from the Union how can we be sure that they will even abide by the US constitution ? The constitution is after all a federal document.If the states are no longer part of the federal union,then each state is likely to have its own laws, including laws regarding travel, and moving to and from the given state.
 Quoting: wretchedfool


How about we just restore the constitution.It is no longer followed at all.We even have laws such as the patriot act that go directly against it,may not hurt to enforce some of those other rights put down on paper either.You know like the right to a trial(thanks to the "patriot act" even that is dead).
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If anything the Republicans are siding with the people. Most people do not like the idea of Czars or anything else Obama has done. This country has gotten WORSE! His policies have made it worse. Where is the Hope and Change?! Tell me.

Tell me where is the Hope and Change? For part of his term, he had a Congressional majority. Where is the Progress? Where is the better economy? He is an enemy of the people.

We declare ourselves free from him and Washington DC. You go live in your socialist utopia. Leave us to improving our lives and trying to be successful.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias



Hope and change can happen ONLY if we share together, a future for EVERYONE , sharing is the key!
America have been morally and in cash long time ago all ready bankrupt!
In my eyes the republicans in America are insensitive egoists , they don't give a shit about poor and weak people.
Many people don't even have food ore water , and the republicans want more! aghhhhhh fuck off, this not normal, i say!
worthless country, no words!
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Why would you want to avoid default Opie, let her burn.. so they don't have the money to put one more chemtrail in the sky! We don't need them.. let um' crash and burn..
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either way we're going 3rd world with a quickness..
 Quoting: ceawaves


Not necessarily. We will find ways to do just fine w/o our Federal Gov. In fact a default may convince state legislatures it is time secede. The Fed. Government only keeps the states down.

Cut that weight and they will soar.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


I hope your right. My apartment lease is up soon and I'm ready to move to the first state that secedes.
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The sooner states realize they can stand on their own, the better. State legislatures can be self-relient. No it won't be a breeze. Yet it must be done.

Else we will get dragged down. The Gov. has already shown what damage they can do to states and harm to people. Time to end this Union. Now. Before we all are totally sunk.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


There are ceartain powers that each state should take back from the federal government,but doing this by sucseding from the Union is a needlesly dangerous path to go down.Many of our most cherishd freedoms are garunteed not by state constitutions,but by the US constitution, and that constitution is valid because of the fact that each state belongs to the Federal Union.

Suppose all the states sucseded from the Union,and each state began governing its self like an indipendent nation.Now suppose the state of Texas,which has a huge hispanic population, was to decide that all anglo persons living within that state should be required to learn spanish as their primary launguage or else loose their voting rights !? Suppose Alabama was to decide to bring back endentured servitude ? What would happen if the people of Alaska were to decide to sell a portion of that state back to Russia ?

I hope you an see where I am going with this ?
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Your concerns about Texas, Alabama, and Alaska are valid. Personally I do not believe that would happen. Some states still hold to the principles in the Constitution.

Even w/o the Federal one, enough people hold to the principles and will follow them. Concerns are possibilities.

When it's between an evil we know and an unknown, get away from the evil you know. The USA union is failing.

Regardless of any risk, we either break free or we get dragged down. Despite the dangers. There is no way states can regain their Constitutional power from the Fed. Gov. How would states regain their Constitutional authority? We see how the Fed. Gov. is holding onto power so tightly. They will not surrender it.

Secession is the only way. Negotiations have failed. They no longer listen to the People.


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Does this mean I will have to get a passport for interstate travel ? Will I need a green card if I plan a leangthy stay,or desire to move to another state?

I have a feeling this is going to suck !
 Quoting: wretchedfool


It was never needed before,why would it now? The states should by the Constitution have more authority than the Federal Government.The Federal Government has used one clause(commerce)to give itself almost unlimited power.Those powers need to be taken back by individual states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1459281


If the states sucseede from the Union how can we be sure that they will even abide by the US constitution ? The constitution is after all a federal document.If the states are no longer part of the federal union,then each state is likely to have its own laws, including laws regarding travel, and moving to and from the given state.
 Quoting: wretchedfool


How about we just restore the constitution.It is no longer followed at all.We even have laws such as the patriot act that go directly against it,may not hurt to enforce some of those other rights put down on paper either.You know like the right to a trial(thanks to the "patriot act" even that is dead).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1459281


I am with you on this one dude.

After we restore the constitution,we then need to sit down together and decide upon some admendments to the constitution.Things like the commerce clause need to be better definend,corporate personhood needs to be constitutionaly outlawed.Iminete domain needs some restrictions.Due process precisly definend.Do away with the possibility of enslavement as punishment for a crime.The things that state and local governments can criminalize need to be restricted.Cruel and unusual punishment needs to be definend,and finaly for people who are born without property,disabled people, and the elderly;this group of the population needs to be garunteed acsess to food, shelter and at least a small amount of land to grow food on and raise livestock upon.Everyone should have the right to provide for themselves,regardless of whether or not someone else thinks they are usefull or not.
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The Bernank got himself a new oil well. Printing presses are all oiled up and he's firing them up again. All is well in the District of Corruption. Plenty of money going to Tiny Tim's treasury. The Banksters are happy; Wall St. is up.
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Your concerns about Texas, Alabama, and Alaska are valid. Personally I do not believe that would happen. Some states still hold to the principles in the Constitution.

Even w/o the Federal one, enough people hold to the principles and will follow them. Concerns are possibilities.

When it's between an evil we know and an unknown, get away from the evil you know. The USA union is failing.

Regardless of any risk, we either break free or we get dragged down. Despite the dangers. There is no way states can regain their Constitutional power from the Fed. Gov. How would states regain their Constitutional authority? We see how the Fed. Gov. is holding onto power so tightly. They will not surrender it.

Secession is the only way. Negotiations have failed. They no longer listen to the People.

 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Many states and local governments do not listen to the people either.Are you keeping up wth the situation in QUARTZEITE Arizona ? It just seems to me that we are screwed beyond hope.When I think about all this stuff,I get horribly depressed and start thinking about just heading out to the wilderness to live;but shit that is illegal to,and if the states sucseed from the union,those wilderness areas will likely be sold to the highest bidder anyway ! I am afraid that only a global catastrophy which ends civillization as we know it, will save us from this tyranny.Of course such a global catastrophy would probably suck to.

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