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NEW INFO - Norway Shooter Anders Behrings Held High Position In Oslo Masonic Lodge With 800 Members! ! !

 
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Someone might want to get a screencap of these weblinks, before they are removed. It's a Google translated webpage out of Norway, of a searchable database of Masons in Norway.

Here's the page for Anders Behrings of Oslo, born in 1979. Berhrings is described as being a member of the 'John lodge pillars' in Oslo, and holding the 'degree' of 'hardworking St. John's apprentice'.

[link to translate.google.com]

Here is the translated page of the ranking of the members of the 'John lodge pillars' in Oslo, it reports there are 'about 813 members' of this lodge.

The page shows of the 'about 813 members', there is 1 person in the position of 'Grand Master' of the lodge.

The next rank below the 'Grand Master' of this lodge, is the 'Zealous St. John's medbrors', of which there are 34 out of the 813 members.

The next level below them in this lodge of 813 was the level Anders Behrings was at, the 'Hardworking St. John's apprentices', of which there were 38 in this Masonic lodge-

[link to translate.google.com]

So basically the Mason Anders Behring was in the top 9 percent of initiates in that lodge of 813, and there was only 4 percent of the members of that lodge that had a higher ranking than he did.

Note that the website reports the 'information is taken from "matrikkel of the Norwegian Masonic Order 2008" and is therefore not an updated membership' so he could have had an even higher level of initiation than that.
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material for Dan Brown's next book !
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Sack of shit Free Mason!
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OMG, I just noticed something.
Anders Masonic pic has him
dressed in Masonic Attire.

Where is the jewel that is supposed
to be dangling from his necklace??

It's missing !!!

Remind you of Hiram Abiff anyone ???

Looks like it has been erased
out of the pic.
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07/23/2011 08:16 AM
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OMG, I just noticed something.
Anders Masonic pic has him
dressed in Masonic Attire.

Where is the jewel that is supposed
to be dangling from his necklace??

It's missing !!!

Remind you of Hiram Abiff anyone ???

Looks like it has been erased
out of the pic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479043


I was wondering the same thing.
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07/23/2011 08:18 AM
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Re: NEW INFO - Norway Shooter Anders Behrings Held High Position In Oslo Masonic Lodge With 800 Members! ! !
A profile of the suspect has been published on dagbladet.no

His main motive was to put focus on political violence committed by left-wing state-funded groups in Norway, like AUF (attacked at Utøya), SOS Rasisme, Blitz and others. The massacre may be seen as the anti-thesis of these state-funded groups who attack rigth-wing political groups.

[link to www.dagbladet.no]
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When are we goin g to start acknowledging this as the masonic incident?
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A profile of the suspect has been published on dagbladet.no

His main motive was to put focus on political violence committed by left-wing state-funded groups in Norway, like AUF (attacked at Utøya), SOS Rasisme, Blitz and others. The massacre may be seen as the anti-thesis of these state-funded groups who attack rigth-wing political groups.

[link to www.dagbladet.no]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195264


Excerpts from Google translation, which apparently doesn't translate to English as well as other languages-

[link to translate.google.com]

'The head of St. Olaus to the three pillars, a division of the Masonic Order, understand it certainly is not.

- I can confirm that he is a member of the Masonic Order and is part of our lodge. I do not understand it, says a strongly affected Harald Manheim told Dagbladet.

Manheim's Mayor master of lodge St. Olaus to the three pillars of the Masonic Order.

He says he is deeply shocked by the mass killings, and sat up to at half past one in the night to monitor developments. That it was a member of the Masonic Order who were behind, he had no idea.

- I discovered it at seven this morning when I woke up, says Manheim as Dagbladet rings a little before eight o'clock this morning.'
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- I can confirm that he is a member of the Masonic Order and is part of our lodge.
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then maybe you can point out
the reason why his Masonic pic
has no jewel ???

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When are we goin g to start acknowledging this as the masonic incident?
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I believe somebody within TPTB
feels like the Masons are a threat.
It will not be the first time
Masons were hunted and murdered.

Masons helped write the US Constitution
and the Declaration of Independence.
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Re: NEW INFO - Norway Shooter Anders Behrings Held High Position In Oslo Masonic Lodge With 800 Members! ! !
He has a Mont Blanc No. 22 pen in his breast pocket.
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A masonic conspiracy???! Get a life! And what's this about the jewel, you only get jewels for certain things, achievements, giving to charity etc. If he had one, I'm quite sure it hasn't been edited out.
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He has a Mont Blanc No. 22 pen in his breast pocket.
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did the explosion in Oslo and
the attacks on Utoya both start
on the 22nd in the evening ???
hmmmm
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A masonic conspiracy???! Get a life! And what's this about the jewel, you only get jewels for certain things, achievements, giving to charity etc. If he had one, I'm quite sure it hasn't been edited out.
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not true
in America, Masons wear jewels
if they hold a lodge office.
No achievements required
other than holding an elected
lodge office.

His apron would suggest he
did hold an office but he
has no jewel. strange.

Hiram Abiff's jewel was returned
to King Solomon when they found
Hiram's body. Maybe symbolic
meaning somewhere in the future.
who knows ????
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A masonic conspiracy???! Get a life! And what's this about the jewel, you only get jewels for certain things, achievements, giving to charity etc. If he had one, I'm quite sure it hasn't been edited out.
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It is unlikely a "masonic conspiracy", because if it were I am sure they have had enough conspiratorial experience to hide their involvement. I suspect that his membership is incidental to his atrocity. The jewel they are talking about is the one that should be hanging from that blue ribbon round his neck. Every other picture I have seen has a metal emblem hanging from it. I have seen pictures of things that look like triangles, birds and open books hanging from them. This is the first time I have seen a picture of one without.
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Re: NEW INFO - Norway Shooter Anders Behrings Held High Position In Oslo Masonic Lodge With 800 Members! ! !
and maybe someone could help me
identify those 2 breast medals
he has on his jacket.

both have the same color as his
neck ornament which might be his
local lodge color. so the medals
might have something to do with
his local lodge. any help identifying
those medals would be appreciated.

i found lots of medals on e-bay
but none that i found matched.

the medal on his left breast
pocket kinda reminds me of a
Catholic Cross that you see
on Rosary Beads but can't be
sure.
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and maybe someone could help me
identify those 2 breast medals
he has on his jacket.

both have the same color as his
neck ornament which might be his
local lodge color. so the medals
might have something to do with
his local lodge. any help identifying
those medals would be appreciated.

i found lots of medals on e-bay
but none that i found matched.

the medal on his left breast
pocket kinda reminds me of a
Catholic Cross that you see
on Rosary Beads but can't be
sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479043


It is impossible to see any detail of those medals. The picture is too small. I cannot even see enough detail to make out that cross you mention. The blue colours of the ribbon and apron look pretty much the same as any "blue lodge" colours, but the design of the apron with a chevron on is not like any I have seen in pictures before. Can we tell if this is a "regular" lodge?
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looking at his apron he was a master mason so at the bottom of the tree a full mason but nothing else so out of 800 + he will be in the 800s a long wayIdol1 from the top
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When are we goin g to start acknowledging this as the masonic incident?
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Why not blame it on the Martians? 5a
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When are we goin g to start acknowledging this as the masonic incident?
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Why not blame it on the Martians? 5a
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Re: NEW INFO - Norway Shooter Anders Behrings Held High Position In Oslo Masonic Lodge With 800 Members! ! !
OMG, I just noticed something.
Anders Masonic pic has him
dressed in Masonic Attire.

Where is the jewel that is supposed
to be dangling from his necklace??

It's missing !!!

Remind you of Hiram Abiff anyone ???

Looks like it has been erased
out of the pic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479043


I was wondering the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1479230


In certain constitutions in Europe, all Master Masons wear a small collarette usually with a S&C hanging from it and this forms part of their normal Lodge regalia. Hence this could be the reason it is not shown because it is standard regalia and not an emblem of Office.
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Freemasonry is a worldwide fraternal organization and a respected one in the community. They are men of good repute and do alot of charitable work and contribute in so many ways for the good of all in the community in charitable ways.Our teachings are to make good men better and to be a credit and set a good example to society.
Every good organization with so many good members may have a nasty member who do the wrong thing and will be expelled.I and all my Brothers in Freemasonry condemn this murderous act by a psychopath and are disgusted with this extreme violent act and the murder of good human beings and injuries caused.These are the ways of Nazis which he was one.The freemasonry will not allow Nazis to be members.WE Freemasons condemn this act of murder and we all extend our condolences and sympathy to the Norwegian Nation and the victims families and may their soul rest in peace.This indeed is a very sad day in the world.I have always been a proud Freemason and the high ethics and principles and the good men in this Fraternity.Hopefully we will not be misunderstood by some.I am Master Mason of 37years and am proud of the good teachings and would recommend all to seek information on Freemasonry and hopefully good men will all consider joining Freemasonry for the friendship of others and its teachings.May Justice be done and may this Nazi Psychopath murderer be JAILED FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.G-D Bless the GOOD PEOPLE ON EARTH.Sam Solomon[googlevid]
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Freemasonry is a worldwide fraternal organization and a respected one in the community. They are men of good repute and do alot of charitable work and contribute in so many ways for the good of all in the community in charitable ways.Our teachings are to make good men better and to be a credit and set a good example to society.
Every good organization with so many good members may have a nasty member who do the wrong thing and will be expelled.I and all my Brothers in Freemasonry condemn this murderous act by a psychopath and are disgusted with this extreme violent act and the murder of good human beings and injuries caused.These are the ways of Nazis which he was one.The freemasonry will not allow Nazis to be members.WE Freemasons condemn this act of murder and we all extend our condolences and sympathy to the Norwegian Nation and the victims families and may their soul rest in peace.This indeed is a very sad day in the world.I have always been a proud Freemason and the high ethics and principles and the good men in this Fraternity.Hopefully we will not be misunderstood by some.I am Master Mason of 37years and am proud of the good teachings and would recommend all to seek information on Freemasonry and hopefully good men will all consider joining Freemasonry for the friendship of others and its teachings.May Justice be done and may this Nazi Psychopath murderer be JAILED FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.G-D Bless the GOOD PEOPLE ON EARTH.Sam Solomon[googlevid]
 Quoting: samsol7@yahoo.com 1481702


So it is good to rape disabled children - Holly Greig,
Now fuck off masson.

Oh yea, thanks to the Manx masons all your secrets are coming out.
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Freemasonry is a worldwide fraternal organization and a respected one in the community. They are men of good repute and do alot of charitable work and contribute in so many ways for the good of all in the community in charitable ways.Our teachings are to make good men better and to be a credit and set a good example to society.
Every good organization with so many good members may have a nasty member who do the wrong thing and will be expelled.I and all my Brothers in Freemasonry condemn this murderous act by a psychopath and are disgusted with this extreme violent act and the murder of good human beings and injuries caused.These are the ways of Nazis which he was one.The freemasonry will not allow Nazis to be members.WE Freemasons condemn this act of murder and we all extend our condolences and sympathy to the Norwegian Nation and the victims families and may their soul rest in peace.This indeed is a very sad day in the world.I have always been a proud Freemason and the high ethics and principles and the good men in this Fraternity.Hopefully we will not be misunderstood by some.I am Master Mason of 37years and am proud of the good teachings and would recommend all to seek information on Freemasonry and hopefully good men will all consider joining Freemasonry for the friendship of others and its teachings.May Justice be done and may this Nazi Psychopath murderer be JAILED FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE.G-D Bless the GOOD PEOPLE ON EARTH.Sam Solomon[googlevid]
 Quoting: samsol7@yahoo.com 1481702


If Masons have such high ethics, principles and wish brotherhood and fraternity to all mankind why dont you expose your leaders and the corruption, lies and murders that have taken place within your own organisation, this might go a long way to winning the hearts and minds of people who are angry at the endless coverups the Masons are involved with.
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the masons will dance to the tune because it can be made so
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we need another one to dance to higher orders
lol
the masons will dance
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I am a freemason, and like all of our brethen I deplore the horrific events in Norway.

AC needs to get some facts right about the "Fraternity". A lodge such as St Johns in Oslo has a "Worshipful Master", not a "Grand Master". WM is the Chair or President. He has 2 VP's called Senior and Junior Wardens, coming from the old stone masons guilds. Wardens still control mining in towns in Australia and probably in other places. These three plus a secretary and a treasurer manage the lodge business (just like Rotary or Junior Chamber International (Jaycees))

There are 3 degrees only in freemasonry, 1st (Entered apprentice), 2nd (Fellowcraft) and 3rd (Master Mason). Some jurisdictions have "side degrees" such as Knight Templar. In a lodge with 813 members, the apprentice is hardly in the top echelon. The fact that the "jewel is missing from the collar in the photo suggests that no rank of importance is held by this man.

No lodge is beholden or can be controlled, nor takes its orders from another.

Freemasonry, like other benevolent and service club organisations is there to assist its members and the community in which it finds itself. Freemason is not the only organisation to attract the misdirected - look at the church, government, the public service. In all these occassionally a bad apple is exposed, does that make the organisation bad?

David Stokes
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I am a freemason, and like all of our brethen I deplore the horrific events in Norway.

AC needs to get some facts right about the "Fraternity". A lodge such as St Johns in Oslo has a "Worshipful Master", not a "Grand Master". WM is the Chair or President. He has 2 VP's called Senior and Junior Wardens, coming from the old stone masons guilds. Wardens still control mining in towns in Australia and probably in other places. These three plus a secretary and a treasurer manage the lodge business (just like Rotary or Junior Chamber International (Jaycees))

There are 3 degrees only in freemasonry, 1st (Entered apprentice), 2nd (Fellowcraft) and 3rd (Master Mason). Some jurisdictions have "side degrees" such as Knight Templar. In a lodge with 813 members, the apprentice is hardly in the top echelon. The fact that the "jewel is missing from the collar in the photo suggests that no rank of importance is held by this man.

No lodge is beholden or can be controlled, nor takes its orders from another.

Freemasonry, like other benevolent and service club organisations is there to assist its members and the community in which it finds itself. Freemason is not the only organisation to attract the misdirected - look at the church, government, the public service. In all these occassionally a bad apple is exposed, does that make the organisation bad?

David Stokes
Worhipful Master
McDouall-Stuart Lodge 219 of the South Australian and Northern Territory Constitution
AUSTRALIA
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Your organisation is bad. And it is controlled from one center. Maybe you even dont know it. You have to tell your fairy tales on cnn, not on GLP.

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