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SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG

 
Anonymous Coward
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DIVIDE THE LIE

That is the central decpetion in todays world

IT HOW YOU LEGITIMIZE WHAT WAS ONCE KNOWN TO BE EVIL

YOU DIVIDE THE LIE IN HALF
SO IT APPEARS TO OPPOSE ITSELF

ONE EVIL STILL
THE OTHER HALF
REASONABLE AND GOOD ENOUGH FOR CIVLIZATION TO WORK WITH TO FORGE A WORLD OF PEACE.
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07/25/2011 03:05 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
bEFORE THEY GOT TO THIS STAGE THOUGH
THEY HAD TO CO OPT THE TRUTH

SO THE MORAL ARBITRAR ADOPTED THE LIES
SO IT COULD BE USEFUL AND ADAPTABLE TO THE WORLDS WAY OF PROGRESS

THEY ACHIEVED TIHS WITH THE SECOND BEAST OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION

THE ROMAN "CATHOLIC" "CHURCH"


This ofcourse is a historic foundation of how our modern world came to be.
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bEFORE THEY GOT TO THIS STAGE THOUGH
THEY HAD TO CO OPT THE TRUTH

SO THE MORAL ARBITRAR ADOPTED THE LIES
SO IT COULD BE USEFUL AND ADAPTABLE TO THE WORLDS WAY OF PROGRESS

THEY ACHIEVED TIHS WITH THE SECOND BEAST OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION

THE ROMAN "CATHOLIC" "CHURCH"


This ofcourse is a historic foundation of how our modern world came to be.
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07/25/2011 03:08 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
NORWAY KILLER CONFIRMS PM WAS PRIME TARGET...
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
Confesses in court, pleads not guilty...
[link to content.usatoday.com]
Says he wanted to 'save Europe'...
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
DEATH TOLL LOWERED TO 76...
[link to ca.news.yahoo.com]
'Manifesto' suggests he wanted to spark a crusade...
[link to www.ft.com]
Faces just 21 years in jail...
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1477940


Concerning your last point - 21 years is the maximum sentence one can get in Norway. There is no life imprisonment. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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07/25/2011 03:08 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
OP, you neglected to mention any facts.?????
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07/25/2011 03:08 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
Thread: Oslo to Utoya -- 20 miles by helicopter -- anyone else call bs on Helicopter taking 90 minutes?
"On the Flemish Belgian television they told; the helicopter couldn't land on the island."

Aerial photo of Utoya:
[link to www.faz.net]

There is enough place to land a helicopter.
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07/25/2011 03:10 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
UPI reported TWO EXPLOSIONS occured in Oslo

OSLO, Norway, July 22 (UPI) -- Two huge explosions at a Norwegian government complex in central Oslo Friday coupled with a shooting at a youth camp left dozens of casualties.

[link to www.upi.com]
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WHILE The Truth ocfourse is still HOLY
AND COMPLETLY SEPERATE FROM THIS WORLD AND ITS KINGDOMS AND GOVERNMENTS DECEPTION

FOR THE TRUTH IS THE LORD OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,
JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD
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07/25/2011 03:12 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
OP, you neglected to mention any facts.?????
 Quoting: Dr. Pickle 1451112

You only ever speak lies, it is your native language.
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07/25/2011 03:16 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
NORWAY KILLER CONFIRMS PM WAS PRIME TARGET...
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
Confesses in court, pleads not guilty...
[link to content.usatoday.com]
Says he wanted to 'save Europe'...
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
DEATH TOLL LOWERED TO 76...
[link to ca.news.yahoo.com]
'Manifesto' suggests he wanted to spark a crusade...
[link to www.ft.com]
Faces just 21 years in jail...
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1477940


Concerning your last point - 21 years is the maximum sentence one can get in Norway. There is no life imprisonment. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331112


Huh... this is weird though...

[link to news.yahoo.com]

"The self-described perpetrator of the mass killings in Norway told authorities there that he expects to spend the rest of his life in prison ..."
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07/25/2011 03:17 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
any contrast can be made to these?

This is ure sign of complicicy

* He arrived on island on boat owned by Norwegian Labour Party
also notice how they state this pointedly

* Police search his flat - think he acted alone - not with Islamist groups


* Norwegian media name arrested man as Anders Behring Breivik
* Police search his flat - think he acted alone - not with Islamist groups
* Reports he was shot and wounded before arrest
* 1.30pm: Massive car bomb explosion kills at least seven in Oslo
* 3.30pm: Between 25 and 30 feared dead as man disguised as police officer opens fire on island youth meeting Norwegian prime minister was due to attend
* Police confirm eight or nine dead on island after preliminary search
* Eyewitnesses say bodies floating in the sea around the island
* He arrived on island on boat owned by Norwegian Labour Party
* Undetonated explosives found on Utoya island
* Islands residents told not to reveal their location on Twitter or Facebook
* Police believe the two attacks may be linked


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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07/25/2011 03:17 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
If anyone has more info, please post it here.

We need to get the truth out!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441810


The kids said that he he detonated explosives on the island; he wanted to blow up a door where the kids were hiding but the explosion wasn't big enough... /eyewitness

The fatalities are now down to 68 though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1165486


Boom-tard.
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07/25/2011 03:17 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
The way I've figured things go here in Japan is that the earliest reports are the most accurate. The early reports also seem to have the most useful details.

For example you'll hear (in japanese) news of a murder - say it's one of those totally bizzare cases where some lone individual maims and kills several people who haven't done anything to him - such as a man waltzing into an elementary school in the middle of a lesson and knives half the class.

The early reports will have this man/woman as a psychiatrically disturbed individual who was on the wrong (prescribed) dose, or otherwise off his rocker due to chemicals (prescribed). They'll even mention that he has no history of violence and the chemical imbalance will be gleaned as the most significant reason for this unassuming adult to go completely off the deep end and try to kill young children.

Later reports will have the man as a loner who went on a killing spree for NO APPARENT reason - and they'll say that with modern psychiatric drugs such people would not be the crazed psychopaths and sociopaths they evidently are.

I know of at least a half dozen cases like this where bizarre murders have taken place. Things like a boy severing the head of another boy and putting the head on the school wall. Or a young adult doing a bus-jack and scaring the bezeebus out of the prisoner passengers while butchering some of them... They'll say nothing in the news on subsequent reports about him taking prescribed meds except they may try to blame some otc 'drug' which doesn't affect the viability of profits for the pharmaceutical orgs.

I'm not really commenting much on the Norwegian case - except I wanted to say that the early reports are most likely to contain more seeds of truth than the final version repeated ad nauseum forever afterwards.

The truth will likely be gleaned from what it is they DON'T say anymore.

False flag? Does a bear shit in the woods? The PTB garbage obviously haven't tweaked this event to satisfy enough of us revolting peons so for the brighter ones amongst us it's time for the popcorn and a cup of tea to see how childish THEY can get with an explanation.
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07/25/2011 03:17 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
FALSE FLAG
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07/25/2011 03:19 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
SILENCER USED SURVIVORS SAY




The killer calmly walked around and shot their victims. Vitner har fortalt at han snakket i headsett mens massakren pågikk, får bt.no opplyst. Witnesses have said that he spoke in the headset while the massacre took place

On Sundvolden camp participants are mostly awake at night.

- Det er et korps av prester og psykologer her de kan snakke med. - There is a corps of priests and psychologists here they can talk to. Et fantastisk apparat er i sving, sier Løseth. A wonderful device is in motion, says Loseth.

Leirdeltakere skal først ikke ha skjønt hva som skjedde fordi gjerningsmannen brukte lyddemper, ifølge Løseth. Camp participants must first have understood what was happening because the perpetrator used the silencer, according Loseth.

- De hørte bare et «poff», sier han. - They only heard a "poof," he says.


[link to mediahash1.bt.no]

[link to translate.googleusercontent.com]
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07/25/2011 03:26 PM
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islamic group claims repsonsibilty then a retraction sent out later


The terrorist group Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami published a statement in which they take responsibility for the bomb attack on the city center Friday. According to Will McCants, terrorism analyst with the CNA, the message out that the attack caused by Norwegian forces presence in Afghanistan and unspecified violations of the Prophet Muhammad. It writes New York Times online. - We have come with warnings since the Stockholm-attack (suicide bomber in December, journ.anm.), The group have said, according to analyst's translation. - What you see is just the beginning, there's more The terrorism expert Evan Kohlmann, who follows Al-Qaeda on twitter account @ IntelTweet, also brings threats. Among others extremist Abu Suleiman commented on the attack: - Today, Norway became a goal to teach a lesson to the rest of the nations of Europe We have previously threatened with operations in Stockholm, and we demanded that European nations withdraw their forces, writes Abu Suleiman said Kohlmann. Suleiman withdrew, however, recent statements, saying that there was no aid to the attack and that it was not an official statement, according to the site jihadica. User Amir Grozny in an online community linked to Al-Qaeda wrote that if the Norwegian forces do not pull out of Afghanistan soon, you will see blood flowing in the streets soon.

[link to translate.google.com]
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07/25/2011 03:27 PM
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
Why was this island, with 2 of the PM's kids on it, and a visit due from the ex or current PM due on the next day, Why were there not agents, cops etc on the island already there, surely one of the things that happens, no matter where a PM or his family are heading is to secure the place?
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It´s an annual event and security, or rather lack of, it was no different from prior years.
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07/25/2011 03:29 PM
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"Helpers of Global Jihad" claims, then disclaims, responsibility for Oslo blast, youth camp shooting

UPDATE 11:38 PDT: Now Will McCants has this: "'Helpers of Global Jihad' now says its claim is not the official claim and it had nothing to do w/ operation. Says wait for official claim."

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It's Motoon Rage. From the Telegraph news feed:

18.03 Will McCants now says that Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (Helpers of Global Jihad) seem to make a claim of responsibility. They claim it is in response to the occupation of Afghanistan and insults to the Prophet Mohammed. It has come via Shmukh, an elite jihadi forum.

McCants translates part of the message:

"We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations & we have demanded that the countries of Europe withdraw from the land of Afghanistan and end their war on Islam and Muslims. What you see is only the beginning and there is more to come."

And here is the full message, in my hasty translation:

Praise be to Allah from his slaves, united and humiliating the people of shirk [worship of others besides Allah] and companions of kufr [unbelief]. Prayers and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets, his family and companions and descendents.

The Almighty said: "Then fight in Allah's cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment. [Qur'an 4:84]

Here another message from the militants has reached the countries of Europe and further proof for the countries of Europe that the mujahideen will not stand idly before their war against Islam and Muslims.

Today Norway has been targeted in order to be a lesson, and a lesson to the rest of Europe. We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations and we have demanded that European countries of Europe withdraw their armies from the land of Afghanistan and end their war on Islam and Muslims. We repeat our warning again to the countries of Europe and tell them that the demands of the mujahideen must be carried out. What you see is only the beginning. There will be more.

There were many reasons for the targeting of Norway. The most important is their participation in the occupation of Afghanistan and the abuse of our prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Praise Allah who has enabled his slaves to be united...and pray to Allah to save our brothers and our fighters everywhere.

Glory and praise to-------- . I bear witness that there is no------- but and ---------
Abu Suleiman Al-Nasser
Helpers of Global Jihad

[link to www.jihadwatch.org]
Lia
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07/25/2011 03:30 PM
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The 2083 manifesto was readily available on internet immediately after the event (how convenient). It is strange, however, that a Norvegian wrote it in English. And in perfect English, as it seems. Could someone who is an EN native speaker look at it from the linguistic point and maybe determine whether it is British English or Amer. English? As a person to whom EN is a second language, I know that no matter how fluent you become, once in a while you'll make a mistake specific to your mother tongue. Esp. living all your life in a non-English speaking country. Esp. in a sophisticated text like this... My point is, did he really write the manifesto himself, or could somebody help him a little?..
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The 2083 manifesto was readily available on internet immediately after the event (how convenient). It is strange, however, that a Norvegian wrote it in English. And in perfect English, as it seems. Could someone who is an EN native speaker look at it from the linguistic point and maybe determine whether it is British English or Amer. English? As a person to whom EN is a second language, I know that no matter how fluent you become, once in a while you'll make a mistake specific to your mother tongue. Esp. living all your life in a non-English speaking country. Esp. in a sophisticated text like this... My point is, did he really write the manifesto himself, or could somebody help him a little?..
 Quoting: Lia 1481000


For all I, know much of it could be cut and paste.

I think it has come out that he used material from Fjordman quite extensively.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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07/25/2011 03:46 PM
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HMMMMMMMMMMMbump
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07/25/2011 03:49 PM
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I'd post them but linking to Alex's site is disabled.

I think it's really silly that you don't allow stuff from there to be linked here. It hurts us. We allow linking to these powers that be new world order websites but not Alex's?
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Only the Great Alex is allowed to have the scoop. do yourself a favor and tune out to that noob.
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The 2083 manifesto was readily available on internet immediately after the event (how convenient). It is strange, however, that a Norvegian wrote it in English. And in perfect English, as it seems. Could someone who is an EN native speaker look at it from the linguistic point and maybe determine whether it is British English or Amer. English? As a person to whom EN is a second language, I know that no matter how fluent you become, once in a while you'll make a mistake specific to your mother tongue. Esp. living all your life in a non-English speaking country. Esp. in a sophisticated text like this... My point is, did he really write the manifesto himself, or could somebody help him a little?..
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
Here are some of the many facts and news reports that CONTRADICT the official story of the Norway Terror attack:

Bombing of Oslo government building
Official Story: A truck bomb exploded outside the building

1) Raw video taken seconds after the bombing ( [link to www.youtube.com] shows damage to buildings on opposite sides of the street, but no blast center in the street.
The video also shows a massive amount of building debris scattered throughout the street, as if it was expelled from the buildings... which is inconsistent with an external truck bomb.

 Quoting: False Flag Alert 1441810


where there no people in the government builing? i mean noone is coming outside in terror even tho all the windows are busted in. how many dead were there? those were people walking in the street right?
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I have the manifesto, but have only read some snippets so far. It seems to be a mixture of historical analysis, political ideology and Terrorist´s Cookbook with some military strategy and tactics thrown in.
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Norway respects Palestine as a legitimate country and dumps israeli shares. Israel sends them a message..
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This... ^^^^^^^^^
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
Why was this island, with 2 of the PM's kids on it, and a visit due from the ex or current PM due on the next day, Why were there not agents, cops etc on the island already there, surely one of the things that happens, no matter where a PM or his family are heading is to secure the place?
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Because they had hired a police officer off duty to take care of the security.
Unfortunately this man was the first person to be shot when the assassin came off the boat. He most likely did not wear a service gun (as the PM keeps boasting of our unarmed police.). ... The regular police only wear weapons for special incidents, and this had not developed to one yet.
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I have the manifesto, but have only read some snippets so far. It seems to be a mixture of historical analysis, political ideology and Terrorist´s Cookbook with some military strategy and tactics thrown in.
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Some online newspapers have already compared Kaczynskis manifest with the 1,511-page document Breivik posted on the Internet shortly before the terrorist attack.

Now it turns out that the Northern man simply copied large parts of the text.

But where Kaczynski reviews the enemy as "leftism" and "leftist," Breivik use the words "Multiculturalism" and "Cultural Communism."

- This must be a way of version 2.0 of the Unabomber Manifesto, says Aage Borchgrevink, advisor to the Norwegian Helsinki Committee, to NRK.no

Kaczynski writes:

"When we speak of leftist in this article we garden in mind Mainly Socialists, Collectivist, ’politically correct’ types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists and the like."

With a few changes in wording, type Breivik the same:

"When we speak of cultural Marxists in this article we garden in mind Mainly Individuals WHO support Multiculturalism; Socialists, Collectivist, ’politically correct’ types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists, Environmentalist, etc."

Breivik has especially been inspired by the Kaczynskis theory that the left is suffering from a crippling inferiority complex.

"The two psychological Tendencies That underlie modern leftism we call" feelings of inferiority ’and’ oversocialization, ’"writes Kaczynski.

"The two psychological Tendencies That underlie cultural Marxists we call ’feelings of inferiority’ and ’over-socialisation," repeats Breivik - without quoting.

Again, he has replaced "leftism" with "cultural Marxists". Apart from paraphrasing from American to British English is the wording is identical.

Cultural chauvinism

According to a source Document.no talked with Breivik has in several places replaced Kaczynskis use of "black" with the word "Muslim".

In a explanation about affirmative action, for example, Kaczynski writes:

"Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. More over, much leftist behavior is not Rationally Calculated to Be of benefit to the people WHOM the leftist claim to Be Trying to help. For example, if one believe That Affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense two demand Affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms?"

Here Breivik not only replace "leftist" with "cultural Marxist", but also "black people" with "Muslim":

"Hostility is too prominent a component of cultural Marxist Behaviour, so is the drive for power. More over, much cultural Marxist Behaviour is not Rationally Calculated to Be of benefit to the people WHOM They claim to Be Trying to help. For example, if one believe That Affirmative action is good for Muslims, does it make sense two demand Affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? "

Aage Borchgrevink is not surprised that Breivik wrote Muslim rather than black or dark-skinned.

Source: nrk.no
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I do not support the norwegian unibomber
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Re: SEVEN facts that PROVE the Norway terror attack was a FALSE FLAG
NOT FALSE FLAG
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Agree.

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