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American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051  United States07/26/2011 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1481176 United States07/26/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Different levels of trim/engine size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter. So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK? Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1481176 United States07/26/2011 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Different levels of trim/engine size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter. So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK? Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you? Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post AC. check your second sentence, looks like a typo. (American cars) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439437I agree, this looks fishy! Agreed. These are american made cars, same makes and models and years. Over there they somehow get much better gas mileage, how is that? I saw a co2 emmissions on the car from the UK, so it can't be that. Check as many models as you would like, they are ALL getting much more MPG than in the US. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Different levels of trim/engine size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter. So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK? Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you? Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill? Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol |
3dChild  User ID: 1414265 United States07/26/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482958  Australia07/26/2011 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482959 United States07/26/2011 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you really just figuring out that the us oil companies have the government mandate the car manufacturers (using safety and crash test ratings) to produce vehicles which waste fuel? Next, we have the ethanol. Fuel with FEDERALLY MANDATED ethanol produces much lower mpg. All manufacturers have the capability to produce extremely fuel efficient vehicles, but they are NOT ALLOWED to produce those vehicles for the US. |
| thatguyoverthere User ID: 1042802 United States07/26/2011 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I noticed is engine size. Quoting: 3dChildIn UK its 1.2 In US its 1.6 Ok, so none of us have the option to drive the 1.2 liter that was made in America in order to save half in gas prices? Aren't we supposed to be finding ways to conserve? Our own car makers already know how to make cars with excellent gas mileage, they just don't sell them to us. This doesn't piss you off? |
| crawgator406 User ID: 1331639 United States07/26/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has to do with all the pollution controls. i had a friend thats parents had a volkswagen bettle the org. and it got 100mpg because it never went through emmissions when it came into port. you see they mess with computers air to fuel ratio which causes it to use more fuel which makes it run rich. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 521503 United States07/26/2011 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you really just figuring out that the us oil companies have the government mandate the car manufacturers (using safety and crash test ratings) to produce vehicles which waste fuel? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482959Next, we have the ethanol. Fuel with FEDERALLY MANDATED ethanol produces much lower mpg. All manufacturers have the capability to produce extremely fuel efficient vehicles, but they are NOT ALLOWED to produce those vehicles for the US. Then maybe we should spread the word. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it has to do with all the pollution controls. i had a friend thats parents had a volkswagen bettle the org. and it got 100mpg because it never went through emmissions when it came into port. you see they mess with computers air to fuel ratio which causes it to use more fuel which makes it run rich. Quoting: crawgator406The emmissions were clearly marked on the UK car, they are under the same co2 emmission standards that we are. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 852710 United States07/26/2011 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Prisoner of Technology User ID: 792783 United States07/26/2011 01:50 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are. Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 521503 United States07/26/2011 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't look at the link but maybe someone is dyslexic? Maybe they are both 35mpg but someone flipped the numbers while typing and made it 53? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 521503It is all of the vehicles and some are 30 vs 60, that isn't a typo. oh...my bad. YEAH THEY'RE FUCKING US ...is that better? My 2011 Tacoma only gets about 20mpg ,i wondered why the hell they haven't improved the mpg in 20 years.I guess they can't , Maybe i should get one of those things that plug in to the computer and change the fuel air ratio. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No conspiracy: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852710UK car: 84HP 1.2L US car: 108HP 1.6L They know US buyers would never drive the lower powered vehicle. Really? They "know" that huh? Then they don't know shit because for twice the gas mileage I would love to drive one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1400511 United States07/26/2011 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Different levels of trim/engine size? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter. So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK? Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you? Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill? Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol Really? Have you ever been to Colorado? Eisenhower pass, red mt. pass? That's not the same as a hill in the uk. In fact the small engine would create insane driving conditions. If you don't comprehend that, drive dfron Silverthorne to Denver. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 852710 United States07/26/2011 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No conspiracy: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852710UK car: 84HP 1.2L US car: 108HP 1.6L They know US buyers would never drive the lower powered vehicle. Really? They "know" that huh? Then they don't know shit because for twice the gas mileage I would love to drive one. Also the UK car is probably much lighter and smaller in size. Americans want bigger safer cars. And our fuel is cheaper because oil is tied to the dollar, not the Euro. Once we lose world reserve currency status, the price of fuel will skyrocket. Then we will see more fuel efficient cars here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1478136  China07/26/2011 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 744051 United States07/26/2011 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK? Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you? Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill? Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol Really? Have you ever been to Colorado? Eisenhower pass, red mt. pass? That's not the same as a hill in the uk. In fact the small engine would create insane driving conditions. If you don't comprehend that, drive dfron Silverthorne to Denver. It's not just the UK, they sell them EVERYWHERE but here in the US. So, we are the only ones with hills? I'm saying we should have the option, hell, Oklahoma is flat. |
