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American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?

 
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American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
Go to Auto Trader UK and look at the cars they have for sale.

Notice the miles per gallon (not kilometer). Why do American cars get twice the gas mileage of those same cars in America?

Is it because of the fuel emmision crap they put on them here?

I had to do a search on this car so I'm not sure the links will work. It isn't just this car, it is every car.

The UK Post Code I used was: M1 3BB

I can't post the pages or I would.

Why would our american car companies give these great mpg cars to the rest of the world but not us?

American
[link to www.autotrader.com]
35mpg

UK:
[link to www.autotrader.co.uk]

51mpg
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If this isn't a conspiracy, I don't know what is.
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Smaller engine in UK car.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439437


Thanks, the American people need to know that while we are bailing them out, they are putting it to us.

Why would the same American made car get twice the gas mileage in another country?

Anyone know?
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Different levels of trim/engine size?

I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter.
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Smaller engine in UK car.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280804


The one in the US is a 4 cyclinder, what size is the UK?

If so, why wouldn't they sell them here?

Aren't we trying to save on gas?
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Great post AC. check your second sentence, looks like a typo. (American cars)

I agree, this looks fishy!
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
Different levels of trim/engine size?

I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK?

Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you?
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Different levels of trim/engine size?

I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK?

Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you?
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Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill?
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Great post AC. check your second sentence, looks like a typo. (American cars)

I agree, this looks fishy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439437


Agreed. These are american made cars, same makes and models and years.

Over there they somehow get much better gas mileage, how is that?

I saw a co2 emmissions on the car from the UK, so it can't be that.

Check as many models as you would like, they are ALL getting much more MPG than in the US.
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Different levels of trim/engine size?

I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK?

Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051



Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol
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One thing I noticed is engine size.

In UK its 1.2
In US its 1.6
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More gallons in us gallon
Look it up
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07/26/2011 01:39 AM
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Are you really just figuring out that the us oil companies have the government mandate the car manufacturers (using safety and crash test ratings) to produce vehicles which waste fuel?

Next, we have the ethanol. Fuel with FEDERALLY MANDATED ethanol produces much lower mpg.

All manufacturers have the capability to produce extremely fuel efficient vehicles, but they are NOT ALLOWED to produce those vehicles for the US.
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
One thing I noticed is engine size.

In UK its 1.2
In US its 1.6
 Quoting: 3dChild


Ok, so none of us have the option to drive the 1.2 liter that was made in America in order to save half in gas prices?

Aren't we supposed to be finding ways to conserve?

Our own car makers already know how to make cars with excellent gas mileage, they just don't sell them to us.

This doesn't piss you off?
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it has to do with all the pollution controls. i had a friend thats parents had a volkswagen bettle the org. and it got 100mpg because it never went through emmissions when it came into port. you see they mess with computers air to fuel ratio which causes it to use more fuel which makes it run rich.
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I didn't look at the link but maybe someone is dyslexic? Maybe they are both 35mpg but someone flipped the numbers while typing and made it 53?
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
Are you really just figuring out that the us oil companies have the government mandate the car manufacturers (using safety and crash test ratings) to produce vehicles which waste fuel?

Next, we have the ethanol. Fuel with FEDERALLY MANDATED ethanol produces much lower mpg.

All manufacturers have the capability to produce extremely fuel efficient vehicles, but they are NOT ALLOWED to produce those vehicles for the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482959


Then maybe we should spread the word.
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
More gallons in us gallon
Look it up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482958


a gallon is a gallon in any country, you look it up
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
I didn't look at the link but maybe someone is dyslexic? Maybe they are both 35mpg but someone flipped the numbers while typing and made it 53?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 521503


It is all of the vehicles and some are 30 vs 60, that isn't a typo.
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
it has to do with all the pollution controls. i had a friend thats parents had a volkswagen bettle the org. and it got 100mpg because it never went through emmissions when it came into port. you see they mess with computers air to fuel ratio which causes it to use more fuel which makes it run rich.
 Quoting: crawgator406


The emmissions were clearly marked on the UK car, they are under the same co2 emmission standards that we are.
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
No conspiracy:

UK car: 84HP 1.2L
US car: 108HP 1.6L

They know US buyers would never drive the lower powered vehicle.
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hmm
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
I didn't look at the link but maybe someone is dyslexic? Maybe they are both 35mpg but someone flipped the numbers while typing and made it 53?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 521503


It is all of the vehicles and some are 30 vs 60, that isn't a typo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


oh...my bad. YEAH THEY'RE FUCKING US ...is that better? My 2011 Tacoma only gets about 20mpg ,i wondered why the hell they haven't improved the mpg in 20 years.I guess they can't , Maybe i should get one of those things that plug in to the computer and change the fuel air ratio.
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No conspiracy:

UK car: 84HP 1.2L
US car: 108HP 1.6L

They know US buyers would never drive the lower powered vehicle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852710


Really? They "know" that huh? Then they don't know shit because for twice the gas mileage I would love to drive one.
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07/26/2011 01:59 AM
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Re: American Car Makers Screwing Over Americans again?
Different levels of trim/engine size?

I think the UK was a 1.2 liter while the USA was a 1.4 liter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK?

Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051



Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051



Really?

Have you ever been to Colorado?
Eisenhower pass, red mt. pass?

That's not the same as a hill in the uk.
In fact the small engine would create insane driving conditions.
If you don't comprehend that, drive dfron Silverthorne to Denver.
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No conspiracy:

UK car: 84HP 1.2L
US car: 108HP 1.6L

They know US buyers would never drive the lower powered vehicle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852710


Really? They "know" that huh? Then they don't know shit because for twice the gas mileage I would love to drive one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051


Also the UK car is probably much lighter and smaller in size.

Americans want bigger safer cars. And our fuel is cheaper because oil is tied to the dollar, not the Euro. Once we lose world reserve currency status, the price of fuel will skyrocket. Then we will see more fuel efficient cars here.
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yea but the cost of gallon of gas in the UK is double so it equals out
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So, mpg is mpg and 35mpg for a US vehicle while they sell 53mpg to UK?

Why wouldn't they sell them here? I'd take a 1.2 if I got 20 more mpg, wouldn't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051



Maybe it wouldn't make it up a hill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481176


Yeah, because they don't have hills over there, that's it. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051



Really?

Have you ever been to Colorado?
Eisenhower pass, red mt. pass?

That's not the same as a hill in the uk.
In fact the small engine would create insane driving conditions.
If you don't comprehend that, drive dfron Silverthorne to Denver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400511


It's not just the UK, they sell them EVERYWHERE but here in the US.

So, we are the only ones with hills?

I'm saying we should have the option, hell, Oklahoma is flat.

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