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Yet another IPN, Mary?
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Yet another IPN, Mary?
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True! They do bump these threads. Not sure why they never stop to think about that.
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

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AMEN Brother!!

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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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Thanks for your interest.Let me be the first to help ya--->pokeye
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

:book17:
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AMEN Brother!!

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AMEN!!!!
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
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English. Tough language.
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Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Now THAT would be brilliant!

LOL! I'll check it outhf
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A modern day parable:

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The 9 minute epic paints the story of redemption and the human condition in a beautifully crafted way. Featuring the
stunning vocals of Charmaine, the two tell the story of a rich man and a humble widow both faced with the opportunity
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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
 Quoting: Keep2theCode



:book27:

That is some amazing work!

I added it to my personal favorites.

Thanks!

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Residents alarmed: New Zealand shaken by dozens of earthquakes in 24 hour period

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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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Black Kites falling dead from sky "puzzling scientists" in Queensland, Australia

Bird experts and scientists left puzzled as birds fall dead from north Queensland skies

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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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:book27:

That is some amazing work!

I added it to my personal favorites.

Thanks!

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Thanks buddy! hf

It's one of those things that I never originally set out to do. It just sorta happened.
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Wow, I was unaware of the heat wave in Britain, although a temperature of 86 degrees doesn't sound
so bad compared to the 94 we experienced the past couple of days.

Relief is on the way, according to our local weatherman, Sunday will be in the 70's.


Up to 760 People Died Due to England's Latest Heat Wave
London, July 18 (QNA) - Researchers said up to 760 people have died due to England's latest heat wave
as the country enters its sixth day of temperatures above 86 degrees, UPI reported.
Read more:
[link to www.breitbart.com]
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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:wow: hf
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wow hf
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Thanks for the heads up!
Sounds awesome!!
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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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:wow: hf
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Thanks for the heads up!
Sounds awesome!!
hf
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Facebook and YouTube tried to ban the trailer for being 'commercially deceptive'...are they kidding?!! Thank God that didn't work hf!

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Seven Antichrist Myths To Not Fall For

If your life depended on knowing who the Antichrist is when the time comes, would you be safe? Do you know already what
to look for? Should you look for a "seven year peace treaty" signer, a Jew, an Arab, or a Muslim? Or is it impossible
identify to him before the rapture at all? Find out how to consider the Antichrist question without anxiety.

Myth #1: “The Antichrist” is What the Bible Calls Him
Read the rest here:
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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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Being in the end times and witnessing the events that we are seeing unfold right before our very eyes, it befuddles me with the lack of Christian interest... It is for those reasons primarily that I am again, befuddled, from the lack of interest and participation from the many Christian that I know are here on GLP.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Hey buddy,

I can't speak for others, but personally, my experience at GLP with trying to talk about end times things has been to be met with extreme hostility. But in this thread, it seems that the desired environment/tone is for a degree of tranquility that makes me hesitant to participate. Prophecy is a very controversial topic.

Also, I've been putting in extra hours trying to finish my work on translating the NT at [link to bible.fether.net] I might be able to finish it this month if I keep at it. Then I'll have a little more time, though there is still much work to be done there (correct typos, update the downloadable files, finish the commentary, etc.). I also want to improve the printable version. I have started a thread to talk about it at [link to forum.fether.net]

So I'm sure others have legitimate reasons to just read as well.

hf
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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf

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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf
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Thanks! I never knew if anyone would use it but me, but I sure learned a lot along the way.

I honestly don't know how long it took, as I worked on it piecemeal and developed the software as I went along. I only started out to do a few passages as part of a word/topic study, and it just kept growing. I also took over a year off at one point because I was just burnt out. So I dunno, several years at least... after I learned enough Greek to be dangerous. Primary resources were the Scripture4All interlinear, The Source NT with extensive notes on Koine and Classical Greek, and the Liddel-Scott Greek/English Lexicon.
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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Thanks! I never knew if anyone would use it but me, but I sure learned a lot along the way.

I honestly don't know how long it took, as I worked on it piecemeal and developed the software as I went along. I only started out to do a few passages as part of a word/topic study, and it just kept growing. I also took over a year off at one point because I was just burnt out. So I dunno, several years at least... after I learned enough Greek to be dangerous. Primary resources were the Scripture4All interlinear, The Source NT with extensive notes on Koine and Classical Greek, and the Liddel-Scott Greek/English Lexicon.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode



I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
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I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
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Didn't use Strong's much at all, really. I used the numbers just as a reference for the Greek roots. The Liddel-Scott lexicon is considered one of the premier reference tools for etymology as well as semantic range, and it includes classical Greek as well. I value that because it does influence how we understand Koine Greek words. (Also used Mounce's Analytical Lexicon.)

Yes, the Word has been my focus since my mid-teens, and I know it is the Spirit prompting this work, because I surely wouldn't have tried it any other way. Huge hill to climb.

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I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
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Didn't use Strong's much at all, really. I used the numbers just as a reference for the Greek roots. The Liddel-Scott lexicon is considered one of the premier reference tools for etymology as well as semantic range, and it includes classical Greek as well. I value that because it does influence how we understand Koine Greek words. (Also used Mounce's Analytical Lexicon.)

Yes, the Word has been my focus since my mid-teens, and I know it is the Spirit prompting this work, because I surely wouldn't have tried it any other way. Huge hill to climb.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
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Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Most scholars agree that the KJV was a very good translation for its time. In its preface, the translators explained that their goal was not to make a new translation but only to improve existing ones, with the tools they had at their disposal. But they knew there was much more discovery needed, so they expected translation work to contine in the future.

English is a very volatile language, so it's really impossible for one translation to keep up. Many words' meanings have changed to their complete opposite. For example, 'let' used to mean 'restrain', 'prevent' used to mean 'precede', and 'science' used to mean knowledge in general.

But like all human endeavors, the KJV had its 'agenda' as well. James was a control freak, and he insisted that 'the divine right of kings' was emphasized. His overseer for the project, named Bancroft, made numerous other rules that went against good translation practice of the time, such as transliterating when they should have translated. (Examples: the word 'baptism' is simply an Aglicized version of 'baptizo' meaning 'to dip, soak, or immerse'. 'Apostasy' means 'to stand apart or away from'. 'Church' is a pagan word derived from 'kirke' or 'cerce', a goddess, while the Greek word is 'ekklesia' meaning 'a separate group'; this same Greek word is also used in the NT to refer to the mob shouting praises to Diana of the Ephesians.)

The NIV is really a very good modern English translation, in my opinion. It has its agendas too, such as some Calvinism and male supremacism, but for the most part it does a good job of rendering the Greek. I don't know much about Hebrew so I have to rely on others in that regard, and most scholars seem to think the NIV is actually better in its OT renderings.

The NASB is another good one, as also is the ISV. The New Living Translation has some very good passages as well, though also some really bad ones (particularly against women). The Message is one I can't recommend in spite of some good qualities, due to very questionable renderings that steer the reader to more of a "new age" double meaning.

I've tried to make a point of not looking at the other English translations during this time, to avoid being influenced. But the one I relied on most is The Source NT by an expert in both Classical and Koine Greek, mainly for the footnotes and sidebars explaining more of the context of language and culture. The English is a little awkward at times, and does seem to bend over backwards to promote some Universalist ideas (as does the Scripture4All interlinear). But the most unfortunate quality is its blatant effort to excuse the modern practice of homosexuality, though I must emphasize that it doesn't outright promote it. The greatest quality of it is that it uses the best available scholarship, which many other translations deliberately ignore so as to preserve traditional wording.

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Good Morning!!

“Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity”.
__ Psalm 133:1

Where two or three are gathered together in my name,there am I in the midst of them! __ Matthew 18:20

So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love,
any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy,
complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love,
being in full accord and of one mind.
__Philippians 2:1-2

:sfj:
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7
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Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Most scholars agree that the KJV was a very good translation for its time. In its preface, the translators explained that their goal was not to make a new translation but only to improve existing ones, with the tools they had at their disposal. But they knew there was much more discovery needed, so they expected translation work to contine in the future.

English is a very volatile language, so it's really impossible for one translation to keep up. Many words' meanings have changed to their complete opposite. For example, 'let' used to mean 'restrain', 'prevent' used to mean 'precede', and 'science' used to mean knowledge in general.

But like all human endeavors, the KJV had its 'agenda' as well. James was a control freak, and he insisted that 'the divine right of kings' was emphasized. His overseer for the project, named Bancroft, made numerous other rules that went against good translation practice of the time, such as transliterating when they should have translated. (Examples: the word 'baptism' is simply an Aglicized version of 'baptizo' meaning 'to dip, soak, or immerse'. 'Apostasy' means 'to stand apart or away from'. 'Church' is a pagan word derived from 'kirke' or 'cerce', a goddess, while the Greek word is 'ekklesia' meaning 'a separate group'; this same Greek word is also used in the NT to refer to the mob shouting praises to Diana of the Ephesians.)

The NIV is really a very good modern English translation, in my opinion. It has its agendas too, such as some Calvinism and male supremacism, but for the most part it does a good job of rendering the Greek. I don't know much about Hebrew so I have to rely on others in that regard, and most scholars seem to think the NIV is actually better in its OT renderings.

The NASB is another good one, as also is the ISV. The New Living Translation has some very good passages as well, though also some really bad ones (particularly against women). The Message is one I can't recommend in spite of some good qualities, due to very questionable renderings that steer the reader to more of a "new age" double meaning.

I've tried to make a point of not looking at the other English translations during this time, to avoid being influenced. But the one I relied on most is The Source NT by an expert in both Classical and Koine Greek, mainly for the footnotes and sidebars explaining more of the context of language and culture. The English is a little awkward at times, and does seem to bend over backwards to promote some Universalist ideas (as does the Scripture4All interlinear). But the most unfortunate quality is its blatant effort to excuse the modern practice of homosexuality, though I must emphasize that it doesn't outright promote it. The greatest quality of it is that it uses the best available scholarship, which many other translations deliberately ignore so as to preserve traditional wording.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Hello All,

K2TC,KUDOS!! Monumental task, dear Sister!!

How do you feel about "Bible Code Translations"?

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How do you feel about "Bible Code Translations"?
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Thanks! hf

I'm not really familiar with code translations, though of course I've heard about code theories. Is there an example I could look at?

Re. Bible codes in general, the problem I see is that so many of them are based on verse and chapter designations which were never part of the early manuscripts. Also, very interesting results can be gleaned from just about anything, such as US presidents. Even the oldest complete Hebrew manuscripts post-date the New Testament (though fragments a thousand years older were found at Qumran), so any codes from that would be a later addition, in my opinion.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)

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