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Troubled Waters... (OP)

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Keep2theCode,

I think your word "trolled" is threatening. This is a discussion forum. You're upset, denying, using aggressive and unkind words.

Troubled waters put up the post about Pope Francis.
I helped him understand and you don't want to hear it.

It is our differences. But not for long, you have to believe God wants us all to believe the same. For Heaven's sake the Protestant messages are saying the same.

How long are you going to deny the facts? Please read
the message to Julie, would you.

Are you going to ban Protestant messages that say the same
as Catholic until that day? It is a game to you all.

Our Lord has revealed more for a long time.


love,

Mary
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Mary,

'Troll' is not a threat of any kind and you know it. A threat would be more like the things you keep posting over and over against Protestants. All the things you say I'm doing are what you're doing; you just don't like it when I call you out or warn others about you.

And we've been over that "this is a discussion form" before, and you know that too.

How long are you going to ram your catholicism down our throats? How long will you keep up with the condemnation of Protestants? And how long will you keep whining about banning when you refuse to stop trolling? (I CANNOT BAN ANYONE either.)
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


I explained to Trouble Waters about indulgences after his
mocking "Say What!" I thought my post was kind.

You come along and reply just like I did and call me a troll, not kind. GLP is a discussion forum, people exchange ideas, news, beliefs.

Your words are harsh, Are you angry at a Catholic responding? But, TW asked. Do you notice the daily anti-Catholic threads on GLP? Catholics have to
keep sharing the faith for more than correcting misunderstandings and errors concerning the teachings of the faith. Catholics want to help people understand Catholicism because of what is ahead.

Time has gone by, divine events prophesied are closer, Jesus is actually explaining the event that will bring Christians together (the Great Warning) to Protestant seers now.

Go read the message I posted on the other page.

If we could discuss it, this "awakening" coming soon,
how good that would be. Our Lord's last words in the message to Protestant Julie, "prepare."

The Bible as Amazing Grace said here, is Protestant's authority but Holy Scripture is a Catholic book. Jesus is going to show you personally and ask you to accept ALL of God's revelation. What a glorious day it will be, please give Him your "yes." We will all be "one" in belief as it was at the beginning of Christianity. Remember our discussion, okay?


God bless you Keep2theCode,


Mary
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Yet another ID number bites the dust!

I am not even going to waste my time reading your lies - But thanks for the bump chuckle
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Yet another IPN, Mary?
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Yet another IPN, Mary?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


cool11
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True! They do bump these threads. Not sure why they never stop to think about that.
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

book17
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AMEN Brother!!

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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
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Thanks for your interest.Let me be the first to help ya--->pokeye
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Is this the christian brainwashing thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34793278


If you do not know Jesus as your personal Savior, your brain does need washed. Washed clean from the lies perpetrated from Satan and his minions.

Not only that, but he can wash your heart to. I know this b/c that's what He has done for me.

book17
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


AMEN Brother!!

peace38
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AMEN!!!!
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
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English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
daughter in NYC
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Now THAT would be brilliant!

LOL! I'll check it outhf
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A modern day parable:

The dead come to life, dead come to life
Only with You



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The 9 minute epic paints the story of redemption and the human condition in a beautifully crafted way. Featuring the
stunning vocals of Charmaine, the two tell the story of a rich man and a humble widow both faced with the opportunity
to choose eternal life or death."
[link to www.air1.com]

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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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Hi Friend,

Translating the NT into what language?...it sounds like a daunting project!! I wish you God's speed with it
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


English. Tough language.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Ok..I'll bite

From the Greek??scratching
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Yep!

Really though, anyone can just click the link and visit the site to see what I've been up to. hf
 Quoting: Keep2theCode



book27

That is some amazing work!

I added it to my personal favorites.

Thanks!

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Residents alarmed: New Zealand shaken by dozens of earthquakes in 24 hour period

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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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Black Kites falling dead from sky "puzzling scientists" in Queensland, Australia

Bird experts and scientists left puzzled as birds fall dead from north Queensland skies

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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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book27

That is some amazing work!

I added it to my personal favorites.

Thanks!

awesome01
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Thanks buddy! hf

It's one of those things that I never originally set out to do. It just sorta happened.
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Wow, I was unaware of the heat wave in Britain, although a temperature of 86 degrees doesn't sound
so bad compared to the 94 we experienced the past couple of days.

Relief is on the way, according to our local weatherman, Sunday will be in the 70's.


Up to 760 People Died Due to England's Latest Heat Wave
London, July 18 (QNA) - Researchers said up to 760 people have died due to England's latest heat wave
as the country enters its sixth day of temperatures above 86 degrees, UPI reported.
Read more:
[link to www.breitbart.com]
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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wow hf
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wow hf
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Thanks for the heads up!
Sounds awesome!!
hf
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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wow hf
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Thanks for the heads up!
Sounds awesome!!
hf
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Facebook and YouTube tried to ban the trailer for being 'commercially deceptive'...are they kidding?!! Thank God that didn't work hf!

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Seven Antichrist Myths To Not Fall For

If your life depended on knowing who the Antichrist is when the time comes, would you be safe? Do you know already what
to look for? Should you look for a "seven year peace treaty" signer, a Jew, an Arab, or a Muslim? Or is it impossible
identify to him before the rapture at all? Find out how to consider the Antichrist question without anxiety.

Myth #1: “The Antichrist” is What the Bible Calls Him
Read the rest here:
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However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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Being in the end times and witnessing the events that we are seeing unfold right before our very eyes, it befuddles me with the lack of Christian interest... It is for those reasons primarily that I am again, befuddled, from the lack of interest and participation from the many Christian that I know are here on GLP.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Hey buddy,

I can't speak for others, but personally, my experience at GLP with trying to talk about end times things has been to be met with extreme hostility. But in this thread, it seems that the desired environment/tone is for a degree of tranquility that makes me hesitant to participate. Prophecy is a very controversial topic.

Also, I've been putting in extra hours trying to finish my work on translating the NT at [link to bible.fether.net] I might be able to finish it this month if I keep at it. Then I'll have a little more time, though there is still much work to be done there (correct typos, update the downloadable files, finish the commentary, etc.). I also want to improve the printable version. I have started a thread to talk about it at [link to forum.fether.net]

So I'm sure others have legitimate reasons to just read as well.

hf
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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf

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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Thanks! I never knew if anyone would use it but me, but I sure learned a lot along the way.

I honestly don't know how long it took, as I worked on it piecemeal and developed the software as I went along. I only started out to do a few passages as part of a word/topic study, and it just kept growing. I also took over a year off at one point because I was just burnt out. So I dunno, several years at least... after I learned enough Greek to be dangerous. Primary resources were the Scripture4All interlinear, The Source NT with extensive notes on Koine and Classical Greek, and the Liddel-Scott Greek/English Lexicon.
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Wow! that is an awesome NT greek translation! I will use it for my biblestudies....thanks so very much! How long did it take you to do? It would be awesome to do the same in the OT in Hebrew!

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Thanks! I never knew if anyone would use it but me, but I sure learned a lot along the way.

I honestly don't know how long it took, as I worked on it piecemeal and developed the software as I went along. I only started out to do a few passages as part of a word/topic study, and it just kept growing. I also took over a year off at one point because I was just burnt out. So I dunno, several years at least... after I learned enough Greek to be dangerous. Primary resources were the Scripture4All interlinear, The Source NT with extensive notes on Koine and Classical Greek, and the Liddel-Scott Greek/English Lexicon.
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I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
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I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Didn't use Strong's much at all, really. I used the numbers just as a reference for the Greek roots. The Liddel-Scott lexicon is considered one of the premier reference tools for etymology as well as semantic range, and it includes classical Greek as well. I value that because it does influence how we understand Koine Greek words. (Also used Mounce's Analytical Lexicon.)

Yes, the Word has been my focus since my mid-teens, and I know it is the Spirit prompting this work, because I surely wouldn't have tried it any other way. Huge hill to climb.

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I'm guessing that you also used Strongs? I use the BlueLetterBible.com a lot. They have the Strongs and also give the Root Word (Etymology). It has helped a lot in my understanding of the Scriptures and prophecy unfolding.

The books the LORD seems to lead me to studying the most is Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the N.T.

The WORD of GOD is light to my path....it is comfort to my soul....and is rivers of peace flowing over me!

It brings purification, santification and the renewal of one's mind when we read/study it daily.

I always ask the Holy Spirit to lead me when reading it....when I did this, the Scriptures became alive and revelation was revealed.
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Didn't use Strong's much at all, really. I used the numbers just as a reference for the Greek roots. The Liddel-Scott lexicon is considered one of the premier reference tools for etymology as well as semantic range, and it includes classical Greek as well. I value that because it does influence how we understand Koine Greek words. (Also used Mounce's Analytical Lexicon.)

Yes, the Word has been my focus since my mid-teens, and I know it is the Spirit prompting this work, because I surely wouldn't have tried it any other way. Huge hill to climb.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
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Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Most scholars agree that the KJV was a very good translation for its time. In its preface, the translators explained that their goal was not to make a new translation but only to improve existing ones, with the tools they had at their disposal. But they knew there was much more discovery needed, so they expected translation work to contine in the future.

English is a very volatile language, so it's really impossible for one translation to keep up. Many words' meanings have changed to their complete opposite. For example, 'let' used to mean 'restrain', 'prevent' used to mean 'precede', and 'science' used to mean knowledge in general.

But like all human endeavors, the KJV had its 'agenda' as well. James was a control freak, and he insisted that 'the divine right of kings' was emphasized. His overseer for the project, named Bancroft, made numerous other rules that went against good translation practice of the time, such as transliterating when they should have translated. (Examples: the word 'baptism' is simply an Aglicized version of 'baptizo' meaning 'to dip, soak, or immerse'. 'Apostasy' means 'to stand apart or away from'. 'Church' is a pagan word derived from 'kirke' or 'cerce', a goddess, while the Greek word is 'ekklesia' meaning 'a separate group'; this same Greek word is also used in the NT to refer to the mob shouting praises to Diana of the Ephesians.)

The NIV is really a very good modern English translation, in my opinion. It has its agendas too, such as some Calvinism and male supremacism, but for the most part it does a good job of rendering the Greek. I don't know much about Hebrew so I have to rely on others in that regard, and most scholars seem to think the NIV is actually better in its OT renderings.

The NASB is another good one, as also is the ISV. The New Living Translation has some very good passages as well, though also some really bad ones (particularly against women). The Message is one I can't recommend in spite of some good qualities, due to very questionable renderings that steer the reader to more of a "new age" double meaning.

I've tried to make a point of not looking at the other English translations during this time, to avoid being influenced. But the one I relied on most is The Source NT by an expert in both Classical and Koine Greek, mainly for the footnotes and sidebars explaining more of the context of language and culture. The English is a little awkward at times, and does seem to bend over backwards to promote some Universalist ideas (as does the Scripture4All interlinear). But the most unfortunate quality is its blatant effort to excuse the modern practice of homosexuality, though I must emphasize that it doesn't outright promote it. The greatest quality of it is that it uses the best available scholarship, which many other translations deliberately ignore so as to preserve traditional wording.

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Good Morning!!

“Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity”.
__ Psalm 133:1

Where two or three are gathered together in my name,there am I in the midst of them! __ Matthew 18:20

So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love,
any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy,
complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love,
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Re: The ROOM...A Christian BrainStorming (((( Thread )))) Current Events...
Good Morning, all!

Keep2theCode, How would you rate the top translations that we have today? I have always been told that the KJV is the most reliable translation that we now have.

hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Most scholars agree that the KJV was a very good translation for its time. In its preface, the translators explained that their goal was not to make a new translation but only to improve existing ones, with the tools they had at their disposal. But they knew there was much more discovery needed, so they expected translation work to contine in the future.

English is a very volatile language, so it's really impossible for one translation to keep up. Many words' meanings have changed to their complete opposite. For example, 'let' used to mean 'restrain', 'prevent' used to mean 'precede', and 'science' used to mean knowledge in general.

But like all human endeavors, the KJV had its 'agenda' as well. James was a control freak, and he insisted that 'the divine right of kings' was emphasized. His overseer for the project, named Bancroft, made numerous other rules that went against good translation practice of the time, such as transliterating when they should have translated. (Examples: the word 'baptism' is simply an Aglicized version of 'baptizo' meaning 'to dip, soak, or immerse'. 'Apostasy' means 'to stand apart or away from'. 'Church' is a pagan word derived from 'kirke' or 'cerce', a goddess, while the Greek word is 'ekklesia' meaning 'a separate group'; this same Greek word is also used in the NT to refer to the mob shouting praises to Diana of the Ephesians.)

The NIV is really a very good modern English translation, in my opinion. It has its agendas too, such as some Calvinism and male supremacism, but for the most part it does a good job of rendering the Greek. I don't know much about Hebrew so I have to rely on others in that regard, and most scholars seem to think the NIV is actually better in its OT renderings.

The NASB is another good one, as also is the ISV. The New Living Translation has some very good passages as well, though also some really bad ones (particularly against women). The Message is one I can't recommend in spite of some good qualities, due to very questionable renderings that steer the reader to more of a "new age" double meaning.

I've tried to make a point of not looking at the other English translations during this time, to avoid being influenced. But the one I relied on most is The Source NT by an expert in both Classical and Koine Greek, mainly for the footnotes and sidebars explaining more of the context of language and culture. The English is a little awkward at times, and does seem to bend over backwards to promote some Universalist ideas (as does the Scripture4All interlinear). But the most unfortunate quality is its blatant effort to excuse the modern practice of homosexuality, though I must emphasize that it doesn't outright promote it. The greatest quality of it is that it uses the best available scholarship, which many other translations deliberately ignore so as to preserve traditional wording.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Hello All,

K2TC,KUDOS!! Monumental task, dear Sister!!

How do you feel about "Bible Code Translations"?

TIAhf

Last Edited by daughter in NYC on 07/20/2013 11:33 AM
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