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Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.

 
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Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Satan doesn't exist lol
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putin

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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
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So why didn't god just destroy satan?
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Satan doesn't exist lol
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I could be inclined to agree with you. Makes more sense than believing the fairy tale bible.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Look, in order for Luke to become a Jedi Knight, he has to face Vader, his fear, got it?.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
putin

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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
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So why didn't god just destroy satan?
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because if there is no evil, then no man has free-will.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Ok I could see that, care to expand on that at all?
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Satan is a pathetic wimp who has to bully and cause destruction to feel powerful
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
putin

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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080


So why didn't god just destroy satan?
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because if there is no evil, then no man has free-will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080


Free will is an illusion. You call it free will it's choosing either eternal life or eternal damnation. That's not much of a choice. It's like asking you, hey do you want to have these beautiful roses for your home, or do you want to be stabbed in the eye repeatedly?
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Satan is a pathetic wimp who has to bully and cause destruction to feel powerful
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How do you know that?
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Ok I could see that, care to expand on that at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


What would you like to know?

YOUR GOD = our creator.
Our creator = one species on a giant scale of power and knowledge.
Our creator = limited to a solar system, or two.

Satan is more like the chief of police of all these solar systems.

The true GOD should not be called 'God'.
They should be called 'The Source' as it is the Source which provides all matter with its spark and allows each atom to live in hopes of one day making it back to the source.

We are here to grow and learn enough to bring us to a higher level, closer to the source.
The closer you get, the more knowledge/power you receive.
The farther you get....The more you stay on Earth.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Oh for the love of God....

OP, the reason you believe there's so much "satan" going around is because all the media does is shine a high-powered spotlight on the things unwanted in this world while quickly glossing over all of the good. Your organized churches are doing the same thing - trying to "unite" you all as "warriors against satan" when it takes the primary focus off God!

YOU are falling for the illusion! And there you are, formulating a theory that "satan" is more powerful than what is at the opposite end of this stick (god).

You CANNOT look up and down at the same time! As you put your focus on that bad 'ol devil and what you believe he's doing - creating chaos and mayhem all over the world - you cannot possibly see the good.

Try looking down at your feet and focus your vision on your big toe. Can you see sky? NO - it's impossible, even tho you "know" the sky is there, you're NOT looking at it! You're looking under rocks over and over and over for the Devil.

Is that not an affront to God? Is that not "worshiping" (FOCUSING!!!) on a false idol and even falser god?

Gosh I just love Christians - fun to watch them chase their tail around in a circle.

Start looking for The Good. You will see more and more of it.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
putin

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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080


The evil one is whom you call "God" or creator. YHVH is a blind evil "God"

Our creator is the Lord of Duality, not the true highest power
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Look, in order for Luke to become a Jedi Knight, he has to face Vader, his fear, got it?.
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So you are comparing our life to an overrated movie series?

Ok I'll bite, but don't forget Vader was his father, and in the end of it all, found the good inside himself.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


you get fooled so easy because your stupid

pray for some intellect
“Henceforth, from the treaty that divides my holy city, Jerusalem and the day upon which the house of Judah commences the sacrifice, I will anoint my people of the house of Judah who believe on my Son and on the house of Israel who believe on my Son, to prophecy to America, and all the earth for twelve hundred and three score days to this nations and all the nations who would conspire to wipe out my people and the nation of Israel.

“When these days of prophesying are closed up, and on the day of my Passing Over my people as I did upon the firstborn of the lands of Egypt, I will send again the Death Angel upon the earth to reap a harvest into my kingdom and cast the timothy into the fires of eternal torment. I have decreed for twelve hundred and threescore days wars, pestilences, death, and the greatest earthquake upon the earth until the cup of my wrath is empty and all the earth is a desolation.

““Arise O sons of Islam, Russia and the many nations with you and no longer submit to evil, but learn of the Gentle King of Abraham, Yeshuah Ha Meshiach, Your Father and God. Look not to an Imam Mahdi, for there is no way to the great creator of all things than through the Son, who is the Father in the Flesh, and whose flesh will dwell in Your Temples of your fleshly bodies, and not in mosques.”

“Shemah O Israel, hear the breath of My Spirit. I AM who AM, and will forever be the Father of Lights in the Flesh. Honor not the six pointed star of Astarte, six within six by six, for it is the number of the dogs of Orion, and the Red star of the Dragon. You O Israel have worn proudly the badge of Moloch and Kemosh, for you have marked your nation with the Mark of the Caldeans and circumscribers of the occult of all ages."
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Ok I could see that, care to expand on that at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


What would you like to know?

YOUR GOD = our creator.
Our creator = one species on a giant scale of power and knowledge.
Our creator = limited to a solar system, or two.

Satan is more like the chief of police of all these solar systems.

The true GOD should not be called 'God'.
They should be called 'The Source' as it is the Source which provides all matter with its spark and allows each atom to live in hopes of one day making it back to the source.

We are here to grow and learn enough to bring us to a higher level, closer to the source.
The closer you get, the more knowledge/power you receive.
The farther you get....The more you stay on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


Very interesting, I could see that. I have always thought of our creators being some kind of ET race, far beyond us in technology and spirituality.

So basically all the evil and bad things that happen on earth are of man's own doing?
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Oh for the love of God....

OP, the reason you believe there's so much "satan" going around is because all the media does is shine a high-powered spotlight on the things unwanted in this world while quickly glossing over all of the good. Your organized churches are doing the same thing - trying to "unite" you all as "warriors against satan" when it takes the primary focus off God!

YOU are falling for the illusion! And there you are, formulating a theory that "satan" is more powerful than what is at the opposite end of this stick (god).

You CANNOT look up and down at the same time! As you put your focus on that bad 'ol devil and what you believe he's doing - creating chaos and mayhem all over the world - you cannot possibly see the good.

Try looking down at your feet and focus your vision on your big toe. Can you see sky? NO - it's impossible, even tho you "know" the sky is there, you're NOT looking at it! You're looking under rocks over and over and over for the Devil.

Is that not an affront to God? Is that not "worshiping" (FOCUSING!!!) on a false idol and even falser god?

Gosh I just love Christians - fun to watch them chase their tail around in a circle.

Start looking for The Good. You will see more and more of it.
 Quoting: Magstar


I'm sorry this entire response was a bunch of dribble to me. I couldn't discern any intelligence from it.

BTW I am not a christian.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
'Satan' and your god are not on equal playing fields.
They play for the same team however.

Satan is above who you call 'God'
...Satan is not evil.

They like to fool us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


you get fooled so easy because your stupid

pray for some intellect
 Quoting: YAHisking


Wow what a condescending and judgmental response. Perhaps you are the one being fooled, did that thought ever cross your pea sized brain?

No of course because you have the ego the size of the hoover dam.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
There is no way Satan is more powerful than God. Satan cannot love and everyone knows that love is the most powerful motivation on this side of existence. You see when the chips are down and the threat is big, Satan folds. The reason it looks like he is doing well in corrupting Gods ways is because evil plays by no rules. Sure he gets his time in the spotlight but good will eventually overcome. Its because good people believe in what they fight for because they are right. Evil people cannot overcome this will. Good wins (eventually) and gets thrashed plenty in the process, evil loses but has an easier time until its defeat. The outcome is always the same. This has not happened yet on Earth but the day always draws nearer.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Satan is a cunt and so is the other guy.
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Very interesting, I could see that. I have always thought of our creators being some kind of ET race, far beyond us in technology and spirituality.

So basically all the evil and bad things that happen on earth are of man's own doing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


Well, I wouldn't say that as we do have different species in charge of Earth.

There are levels these species must progress to - in order for them to now progress, they must be a negative being.
And, it is not easy to know love and choose hate.

We do make our own beds, but we do not make our own laws, we do not have control of our Earth.

It's alright though, the 'cleansing' will happen sooner rather than later.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Look, in order for Luke to become a Jedi Knight, he has to face Vader, his fear, got it?.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226071


So you are comparing our life to an overrated movie series?

Ok I'll bite, but don't forget Vader was his father, and in the end of it all, found the good inside himself.
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No, I am comparing Religion to an overrated movie series.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Oh for the love of God....

OP, the reason you believe there's so much "satan" going around is because all the media does is shine a high-powered spotlight on the things unwanted in this world while quickly glossing over all of the good. Your organized churches are doing the same thing - trying to "unite" you all as "warriors against satan" when it takes the primary focus off God!

YOU are falling for the illusion! And there you are, formulating a theory that "satan" is more powerful than what is at the opposite end of this stick (god).

You CANNOT look up and down at the same time! As you put your focus on that bad 'ol devil and what you believe he's doing - creating chaos and mayhem all over the world - you cannot possibly see the good.

Try looking down at your feet and focus your vision on your big toe. Can you see sky? NO - it's impossible, even tho you "know" the sky is there, you're NOT looking at it! You're looking under rocks over and over and over for the Devil.

Is that not an affront to God? Is that not "worshiping" (FOCUSING!!!) on a false idol and even falser god?

Gosh I just love Christians - fun to watch them chase their tail around in a circle.

Start looking for The Good. You will see more and more of it.
 Quoting: Magstar


I'm sorry this entire response was a bunch of dribble to me. I couldn't discern any intelligence from it.

BTW I am not a christian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


Ummmmm, OK. Then go back to the post of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. That should clear it up for you.

(Giving more power to the "fear"???)
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
That is as false as false can be.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
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Your logic is overwhelming me, ROFL. You people should really read the bible first you bagin with your rants.


Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it, or the saw boast against him who uses it? As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up, or a club brandish him who is not wood! Isaiah 10:15


Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
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Re: Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.
Your logic is overwhelming me, ROFL. You people should really read the bible first you bagin with your rants.


Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it, or the saw boast against him who uses it? As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up, or a club brandish him who is not wood! Isaiah 10:15


Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
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You should understand the real origins of the bible before using it as a standard.

Written by corrupted men.
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There is no way Satan is more powerful than God. Satan cannot love and everyone knows that love is the most powerful motivation on this side of existence. You see when the chips are down and the threat is big, Satan folds. The reason it looks like he is doing well in corrupting Gods ways is because evil plays by no rules. Sure he gets his time in the spotlight but good will eventually overcome. Its because good people believe in what they fight for because they are right. Evil people cannot overcome this will. Good wins (eventually) and gets thrashed plenty in the process, evil loses but has an easier time until its defeat. The outcome is always the same. This has not happened yet on Earth but the day always draws nearer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313350


Lot's of speculation in this post, but I wanted to address one thing. You say satan cannot love everyone, so I can only assume you mean god loves everyone. If that's the case, why does god send people to hell just for not believing in him.

Before you come up with some kind of justification to answer that consider this. It makes more sense to say that if that is a god and heaven, the only way to get there, is not through some book, or by dunking yourself in water, or by being born again, it's more likely the only way to get there is just by being a genuinely good person.
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Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


god will never fight Satan in a battle, god's will was enough
to cast out Satan out of heaven. So god does not have to fight Satan, he is to weak.

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