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Satan is just as poweful if not more powerful than God.

 
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Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
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god satan uses gods power against him. their is only one power source in this universe and it all stems from god. satan is the deciever. he has 'job' to do but he will never yield power over or above mankind or their creator in heaven.
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Your logic is overwhelming me, ROFL. You people should really read the bible first you bagin with your rants.


Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it, or the saw boast against him who uses it? As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up, or a club brandish him who is not wood! Isaiah 10:15


Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
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You should understand the real origins of the bible before using it as a standard.

Written by corrupted men.
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Yet still it makes more sense than you all together.
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Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
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Then let's all collectively get on our fucking knees, and suck gods throbbing cock.
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God, Satan, You, Me, Us, are all the same thing, ying and yang babies... So your all just beating yourselves up about this, get a clue...Sheeeeesh.
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God is Supreme, and Supreme means one without equal.

Everything is under the control of the Supreme.

Not even a blade of grass moves in the wind without the will of the Supreme. Everything happens by the sanction of the Lord in your heart who grants your desires.

There is no Evil, there is only Ignorance of Light.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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There is no way Satan is more powerful than God. Satan cannot love and everyone knows that love is the most powerful motivation on this side of existence. You see when the chips are down and the threat is big, Satan folds. The reason it looks like he is doing well in corrupting Gods ways is because evil plays by no rules. Sure he gets his time in the spotlight but good will eventually overcome. Its because good people believe in what they fight for because they are right. Evil people cannot overcome this will. Good wins (eventually) and gets thrashed plenty in the process, evil loses but has an easier time until its defeat. The outcome is always the same. This has not happened yet on Earth but the day always draws nearer.
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Lot's of speculation in this post, but I wanted to address one thing. You say satan cannot love everyone, so I can only assume you mean god loves everyone. If that's the case, why does god send people to hell just for not believing in him.

Before you come up with some kind of justification to answer that consider this. It makes more sense to say that if that is a god and heaven, the only way to get there, is not through some book, or by dunking yourself in water, or by being born again, it's more likely the only way to get there is just by being a genuinely good person.
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"God" does not work like this.

You need to understand different levels of dimension as well as the beings who reside in those dimensions.

Do not believe in Heaven, nor Hell.
Consider this....

...Your goal is to be one with the source.
You come to Earth to learn how to love, live, learn, ect.
If you are an asshole who hates, hurts, and destroys - when you awake from the dream that is our reality in the afterlife, do you think the source is going to give you consequences?
No, your 'soul' does!

Imagine knowing you hurt a kid, wouldn't you feel guilty and end up punishing yourself (if you are a good person)?
Same with the soul - if you are an asshole down here, you will awake knowing this and have to deal with yourself knowing you failed.

...Harder than hell that can be.
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Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
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Satan has the power over Earth for a time....that time is about up;-)
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Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
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Then let's all collectively get on our fucking knees, and suck gods throbbing cock.
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Too bad for you God is Spirit, pussy.
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Your logic is overwhelming me, ROFL. You people should really read the bible first you bagin with your rants.


Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it, or the saw boast against him who uses it? As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up, or a club brandish him who is not wood! Isaiah 10:15


Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470231



You should understand the real origins of the bible before using it as a standard.

Written by corrupted men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266452


The gospels are from Heaven....the NT was written by man
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Your logic is overwhelming me, ROFL. You people should really read the bible first you bagin with your rants.


Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it, or the saw boast against him who uses it? As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up, or a club brandish him who is not wood! Isaiah 10:15


Because the mankind is evil it is under Satan´s spell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1470231



You should understand the real origins of the bible before using it as a standard.

Written by corrupted men.
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The gospels are from Heaven....the NT was written by man
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Define 'heaven'
Did the gospels just drop from the sky?
No, men wrote them.

Do not put faith into something that demands ignorance.
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God is Supreme, and Supreme means one without equal.

Everything is under the control of the Supreme.

Not even a blade of grass moves in the wind without the will of the Supreme. Everything happens by the sanction of the Lord in your heart who grants your desires.

There is no Evil, there is only Ignorance of Light.
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If God is Supreme, how can Satan hold any power over him?

Supreme means one without Equal.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread
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God sucks my cock, and Satan licks my arse.
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Yea, the CREATION is way more powerful than the CREATOR. Give me a break. Can Satan make something out of nothing? NO!

It has already been written....Satan has, and is still having, his time on earth.

He will not win in the end.
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So why didn't god just destroy satan?
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because if there is no evil, then no man has free-will.
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Free will is an illusion. You call it free will it's choosing either eternal life or eternal damnation. That's not much of a choice. It's like asking you, hey do you want to have these beautiful roses for your home, or do you want to be stabbed in the eye repeatedly?
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Free will is not an illusion. It is a great gift and a part of "The Program" which is hidden and only rares are able to see the tiny parts of it.

Our code is very complex in order to hide its substantial parts. The Universal Programmer is in this way "Common sense" of those gifted.

The Universal Programmer didn't want to stay alone as it was boring to him. He gave a language and common rules, time and space. But our "backloop" is only 3 dimensions in Universal Time-Space continuum of 11*2.

Obey or die. Learn the syntax, make your own subroutines and see the results. When "EE" seen as a result, repair the subroutine and try again. His Mainframe is the whole Universe.

We all living here on Earth just now are only sitting in front of one of many terminals multiplied by the number of souls. But be sure, we are assisted very closely "without a touch" by The Council of 9. Only 2 of The Council are incarnated as terrestrials and can be affected by this ill "community" of KaliYuga.

More than 99% of us are unable to learn even the syntax of the Language. It is not the case of sequential programming as Time is only an illusion.

When U try to crack The Code, the main point of view is your intention driven by your free will. Good or Bad. Or serve others to survive or let them die to get more power over the rest. The mission of Isa was the last but not the least try.

When pupils are unable to learn, there is no use to cast pearls before them. Pigs or PIIGS - only a metaphoric expression.

Baraka.
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Satan, like everything else, only has the power that God allows him (it), and only as long as HE allows. Everything belongs to the Creator God, and satan's power is limited. When God says, "Time's up!" satan's power is over. Satan WANTED to be more powerful than God; therein his problems started. But the Bible tells us exactly how that will end.
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The gospels are from Heaven....the NT was written by man



i may be wrong but if im not mistaken, the gospels are the main parts of the NT. if not for the gospels, there would be no NT
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there is no light without darkness to teach us of ourselfs
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Every time people sit down to eat a meal, they bow their heads and thank god. When someone accomplishes something great, win's an award, etc, they praise and thank god. Everything that is good that happens in the world is all thanks to god, and part of his plan.

But what about satan. There is certainly much more evil in the world than good. More suffering, more death and disease, starvation, all those bad things. When you ask a christian why those things happen, they tell you, well it's the work of satan.

That kind of makes you think. Satan is powerful enough to cause all these evil things, with the evil outweighing the good, satan is actually more powerful than god.

So of course that begs the question, why does god allow these things to happen? God created satan, then turned him loose on the world with all his power. Why did god do this?
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The observations are correct, but your conclusion is wrong. Nobody "Allows" anything. The earth was not meant for sentient life, but we chose to come here and when we did, we became trapped. Where we came from, we had free will. God would not stop us from excercising this free will.

Now, the Earth moves between two polarities over long periods of time. Depending on where the Earth is in relation to a meridian, the predominant force on the Earth is Good or Evil.

We are in the Evil right now...the evil, d'evil, Devil.

We don't have to wait to get back to God. God devised a way by which we can be "rescued" from the Earth.

That method is through Jesus Christ.
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Satan doesn't exist lol
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grizzy Oh yes he does. THE BEAST... [link to www.chick.com]
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Well according to the bible, there`s practically no difference anyway, both are equally evil
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There is no way Satan is more powerful than God. Satan cannot love and everyone knows that love is the most powerful motivation on this side of existence. You see when the chips are down and the threat is big, Satan folds. The reason it looks like he is doing well in corrupting Gods ways is because evil plays by no rules. Sure he gets his time in the spotlight but good will eventually overcome. Its because good people believe in what they fight for because they are right. Evil people cannot overcome this will. Good wins (eventually) and gets thrashed plenty in the process, evil loses but has an easier time until its defeat. The outcome is always the same. This has not happened yet on Earth but the day always draws nearer.
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Lot's of speculation in this post, but I wanted to address one thing. You say satan cannot love everyone, so I can only assume you mean god loves everyone. If that's the case, why does god send people to hell just for not believing in him.

Before you come up with some kind of justification to answer that consider this. It makes more sense to say that if that is a god and heaven, the only way to get there, is not through some book, or by dunking yourself in water, or by being born again, it's more likely the only way to get there is just by being a genuinely good person.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858


"God" does not work like this.

You need to understand different levels of dimension as well as the beings who reside in those dimensions.

Do not believe in Heaven, nor Hell.
Consider this....

...Your goal is to be one with the source.
You come to Earth to learn how to love, live, learn, ect.
If you are an asshole who hates, hurts, and destroys - when you awake from the dream that is our reality in the afterlife, do you think the source is going to give you consequences?
No, your 'soul' does!

Imagine knowing you hurt a kid, wouldn't you feel guilty and end up punishing yourself (if you are a good person)?
Same with the soul - if you are an asshole down here, you will awake knowing this and have to deal with yourself knowing you failed.

...Harder than hell that can be.
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that is right.... we create our own hell, our own punishment, our own reward ... on the road to oneness...
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The prophesy's have actually spoken of you guys, that pound on GOD & his SON. Even Satan knows his time is limited.
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one and the same in the created bipolar system made to steer humanity in slavery

there can be only ONE

the cosmic body that you are an important cell of,
so start behaving like one and stop chasing after fairy tales being a cancer to the very body that nurtures you

so simple, why cant people remember???
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Demons exist I know because I've seen one face to shadow. True story, take it or leave but those of you here who know the real deal will know what I mean.





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