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Protestants error again, proclaiming our justification comes by belief (faith) alone....

 
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Nope, Protestants have two things wrong.

Preaching for money. It's a conflict of interest. One of the few times Christ got physically angry was when people were trying to make a profit in a house of worship.

Second. Justification comes by following law. Law permits our salvation.

Ask Jesus into your heart all you want, fail to abandon drug use, fornication, adultery, murder, etc. and you cannot be saved no matter how much faith or belief you have.

Obedience to divine law to the best of your knowledge saves us , not faith, grace covers your past ignorance of the law, not a lack of desire to fulfill and abide your current knowledge and awareness of sin.

Grace is not a license to commit sin. Grace covers your ignorance and past mistakes. Not mistakes you choose to make with a full awareness of what sin (violations of the law) is.

Those mistakes you make with a full awareness you pay for yourself. ie. The leg I got broken by hanging out with people I shouldn't have been. The marijuana users at the marina last summer.
 Quoting: Tyranny of Evil Men


RCC has one thing wrong.... they follow the teachings of Simon Magus... the first gnostic.
The RCC is simply the most successful Gnostic cult.

If you understand this it answers all the questions.

Why they killed 5 million Walsensians and the Heugonots, the Anabaptists and many others who FOLLOWED THE BIBLE.

Answers why the Catholic priest Army officers in the Ustase Army in WWII burned 25,000 Serb children ALIVE! German NAZIs were APPALLED!

Why the RCC spirited away the NAZI occultist officers away to South America via the "Rat lines".

Why the Rwanda Catholic Nuns were tried and convicted last year of instigating the genocide of 800,000 Tutsis.

Why the RCC used a temple 'till the 15th century, that was built for the Goddess Cybele in 200 BC.

Why Pope John Paul II, when he was shot, prayed to the black Madonna. (The Magna Mater = Cybele goddess.)

Why the Critical Text was "found" just before the great counter Reformation effort: IE just before the Council of Trent. It is the source of most English versions Protestants use today.

Why the Vatican has large Phallus standing in it's court yard... next to the uterus/vagina shaped walled areas.

Why the Pope's clothing are chock full of occultic symbols/symbolism.

Why the Vatican is chock full of occultic/pagans symbols/symbolism.

Why the Vatican has a painting of Peter that is actually a painting of Saturn which = Satan.

Could go on and on.

The RCC killed millions and millions of people; first the Jews then the Biblical Christians, (or first the Biblical Christians then the Jews).... then the others.
And sadly, I, as a Bible Believing Christian, am lumped in with the RCC "Christians".

The truth is that the RCC is far more closely related to the Muslims and Hindus than Biblical Christianity.
The simple truth is that the RCC is the old Babylonian Mystery Religion with a little Jesus jargon.
You know... the folks who included their children in their forest orgies while they tossed their babies into the fire with the priest and priestess BF'n high on a platform altar before Marduk.

All came from that ONE MISTAKE of following the teachings of Simon Magus.
Oh... by the way... Simon had a title: Petr/Petra/Petar/Peter.
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children starving to death as we chat..inm 2011

absolutely disgraceful

maybe its time to stop arguing who has it right and start lkiving his message
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

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You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

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Repent! Satan loves you more than fake fairy tale Bible Jesus!
:preachy:


Turn to the dark side! There is still time to join the winning team!
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It's important to talk about the faith. To share what
the Church teaches. Doing this helps people who are not Roman Catholic.

One might come back with and ask, so what? It matters because
everyone in Heaven is Roman Catholic and here on earth, very important, after the Great Warning, those who give their "yes" to God will become Roman Catholic.

After Tribulation and the Chastisement, those who see God's new time, the Millennium, are all Roman Catholic.

The Remnant is Roman Catholic.

Read the OP again, it takes more than "faith alone", that's a heresy. Jesus explains.
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It's important to talk about the faith. To share what
the Church teaches. Doing this helps people who are not Roman Catholic.

One might come back with and ask, so what? It matters because
everyone in Heaven is Roman Catholic and here on earth, very important, after the Great Warning, those who give their "yes" to God will become Roman Catholic.

After Tribulation and the Chastisement, those who see God's new time, the Millennium, are all Roman Catholic.

The Remnant is Roman Catholic.

Read the OP again, it takes more than "faith alone", that's a heresy. Jesus explains.
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How would you know what a heresy is? You can't even answer whether Jesus is in heaven or not!
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You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
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??????? What you said I'm trying to make sense of .....he did not come to cancel the law.....so he didn't come to cancel the mortgage...but he came to fulfill it....yes he fulfilled the law so that we may have eternal salvation by following the commandments of God.

Revelations 22
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
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You apparently do not understand "doing God's will" and "following the law." Since the ascension of Jesus it is the demand of God that humans believe in His Son Jesus Christ, be born again of the Holy Spirit and learn to do the will of God - WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE TRYING TO FULFILL THE LAW. THE LAW WAS A "CONTRACT" BETWEEN MAN AND GOD THAT, IF A HUMAN SHOULD DIE SINLESS, WOULD GET THEM ENTRANCE INTO HEAVEN. God, knowing man's weakness gave His only begotten Son to pay the sin debt and get humans out from under the law. Have you not read Galatians about going back under the law?
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works w/ out faith is dead
faith w/ out works, there may not be rewards.but salvaton still obtained.


its faith w/ works but faith in the LORD jesus christ comes first.

doing things because what he (death burial reserection, the atonement work, the finished work) has done and glory to him should be first priority.

read hebrews 11 thats is how the patriarchs where approved.

without faith it is impossible to please GOD.

not works.
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The Harlot is Roman Catholic.
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Dude really. You should really read Matthew 23 and take notes. 1st warning bell should be the fact you are quoting "Father" Melvin. Jesus specifically told us not to call anyone father!!!! Matthew 23 8-12 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ. The greatest among you will be your servant. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

Why do people constantly follow the traditions of man

Matthew 15 8-9 “‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.They worship me in vain their teachings are but rules taught by men."
 Quoting: moomoo750


Jesus was using hyperbole. You have misinterpreted that
verse along with most Protestants. Jesus and the Apostles
referred to holy men and teachers as Father.

Matthew 19:16-21

Now someone approached him and said, "Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?" He answered him, "Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." He asked him, "Which ones?" And Jesus replied, " `You shall not kill; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness; honor your father and your mother'; and `you shall love your neighbor as yourself.'" The young man said to him, "All of these I have observed. What do I still lack?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to (the) poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Our Lord's words, sound like a "work" to me. You choose
to do a good work or not follow the Commandments. Every
day? What is your life then, Luther's "faith alone" is so
lame.
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I don't need the title of a catholic to do good works...
 Quoting: moomoo750


Hi,

If you read Our Lord's words to Father Melvin in the OP.

I really appreciate it. hf Some people don't take the time moomoo. Jesus explains, it's more than faith.

Trying to get you to see Faith Alone came from a man and
we know who it was...Martin Luther. When you experience
the Great Warning it will be a help. You'll recall and
say "Yes" God, now I see it's true, your personal enlightenment, showing me your Church. Those Catholics
kept professing it at GLP.

Fine, dear God, I shall become Catholic."
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The arrogance you speak with is quite impressive. At this point I'm reminded of the words of my grandpa, "Son, never argue with an idiot cause sometimes people can't tell which one of you is the idiot!" You clearly think salvation comes through the church. "traditions of men." I'll pray that turns out good for you. As for me I'm comfortable with only answering to Jesus. Not a pope, not saints. The difference seems to me is, you think because you are catholic you are owed salvation, me one the other hand know I'm not worthy of salvation. Even with all the good works I could ever do I'm not worthy. I accept that. However, I love god above anything else, and I love my neighbor as I love myself. I'll pray for you even though you would cast me off. I personally have no fear of judgement cause of Jesus. I always forgive no matter what someone has done. I can say that knowing I've been tested. So, for me to think you are the ones I need to pour my heart out to and trust with my salvation, I'll take my chances with God, Jesus and the Bible. You my friend can have the church!
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works w/ out faith is dead
faith w/ out works, there may not be rewards.but salvaton still obtained.


its faith w/ works
but faith in the LORD jesus christ comes first.

doing things because what he (death burial reserection, the atonement work, the finished work) has done and glory to him should be first priority.

read hebrews 11 thats is how the patriarchs where approved.

without faith it is impossible to please GOD.

not works.

 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1181161


You're saying two things alex, which is it? It's not Luther's
"faith alone."

We are justified by faith and works. Trust the Church not
some heretic named Martin Luther. The same Church gave
you and everyone their Bible.

You gotta finally recognize this fact. hf


Mary
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There was no RC when the Bible was even canonized, when Constantine allowed Christianity and changed it, forming Catholicism, in the 4th century.

There were no popes prior to the 4th century. Papal succession is a fabricated contrived fiction just like Ireland's St Patrick was a BAPTIST!
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works w/ out faith is dead
faith w/ out works, there may not be rewards.but salvaton still obtained.


its faith w/ works
but faith in the LORD jesus christ comes first.

doing things because what he (death burial reserection, the atonement work, the finished work) has done and glory to him should be first priority.

read hebrews 11 thats is how the patriarchs where approved.

without faith it is impossible to please GOD.

not works.

 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1181161


You're saying two things alex, which is it? It's not Luther's
"faith alone."

We are justified by faith and works. Trust the Church not
some heretic named Martin Luther. The same Church gave
you and everyone their Bible.

You gotta finally recognize this fact. hf


Mary
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Luther stood by approving the tossing of Anabaptists into holes chopped in the river ice.
Why?
Because he was a RC at heart.
That is what the RCs did.
He was a reformer but old habits are hard to break.
Luther wanted to REFORM the RCC...not rebel against it or leave it.
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works w/ out faith is dead
faith w/ out works, there may not be rewards.but salvaton still obtained.


its faith w/ works
but faith in the LORD jesus christ comes first.

doing things because what he (death burial reserection, the atonement work, the finished work) has done and glory to him should be first priority.

read hebrews 11 thats is how the patriarchs where approved.

without faith it is impossible to please GOD.

not works.

 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1181161


You're saying two things alex, which is it? It's not Luther's
"faith alone."

We are justified by faith and works. Trust the Church not
some heretic named Martin Luther. The same Church gave
you and everyone their Bible.

You gotta finally recognize this fact. hf


Mary
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764

Luther stood by approving the tossing of Anabaptists into holes chopped in the river ice.
Why?
Because he was a RC at heart.
That is what the RCs did.
He was a reformer but old habits are hard to break.
Luther wanted to REFORM the RCC...not rebel against it or leave it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361018


Martin Luther was not a reformer. He threw the baby
out with the bathwater coming up with his own doctrines
not of God.

"Faith Alone", is sadly only one of them.
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There was no RC when the Bible was even canonized, when Constantine allowed Christianity and changed it, forming Catholicism, in the 4th century.

There were no popes prior to the 4th century. Papal succession is a fabricated contrived fiction just like Ireland's St Patrick was a BAPTIST!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1477940


Be specific, give more than your one sentence to describe
Christian history before 1517. Who did canonize Scripture if
the RCC didn't? Someone had to, the Bible didn't drop
from Heaven complete.


blessings,
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You are a FILTHY LIAR!


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When you start throwing names around you have lost the debate.

The Atonement covers your ignorance, not your lack of desire to fulfill the law.

Fail to fulfill the 10 commandments and you can die.

Abraham Lincoln. A womanizer. Shot dead. God won't protect presidents from the consequences of whoring.

John F. Kennedy. A womanizer. Marilyn Monroe. Shot dead.

Fail to follow Christian law, and grace will not protect you.

The wages of sin are death. Grace will not protect you from willful acts of full awareness.

Mortal sins made with full awareness will get you killed.
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Look at his avatar.

Dude is cursed.
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You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1484299


I AM HORRIFIED BY YOUR LOGIC. You really think that since Jesus Christ died on the cross that you can actually spout off this feel good religion and call it "The Way"??
Give me a break with your "do as thou wilt" way to Heaven cause "Jesus HAS ALREADY paid for my sins"..... and in advance since we were not born yet. The only ones this could possibly appeal to is the self-righteous and people who want their cake and eat it too.
Jesus came to show us the way by carrying our own cross the way he did in this world. Not by having others carry it for you. It does not work that way. No sir.
Ever herd of the narrow road? Well, it's the way to heaven.

Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. He gave us an example to follow, then sent the Holy Spirit to teach us.
His birth came to announce the time was at hand, the new age was upon us. He came to tell us to repent. Time was at hand. Ever think of what that statement means??
It means time is soon ending. Get our heart right through His ways, which was repentance, baptism for the remission of sin.
Why would you have baptisms if Jesus Christ already paid for sins, it does not make sense. Baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS. And if you sin, you repent of the sins, ask for forgiveness and are forgiven because you are a member of the BODY OF CHRIST through your baptism.

He showed us how we become a "member" of the "Body of Christ", which is by consuming the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST. AND HE DID NOT MINCE WORDS WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO ATE OF HIS BODY AND DRANK OF HIS BLOOD, WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AS WE WOULD BE IN HIM, AND HE IN US. THIS IS THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
We are to be the new wine in the new wine skin, CHRIST'S SKIN, SO TO SPEAK, FOR WE TAKE ON HIS NATURE WHEN WE UNITE WITH HIM IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST. A people who has had two thousand years to raise up a Holy People by practicing what Jesus Christ started and His apostles carried out.
See, a new age was/is clicking in place. The time of times is almost up.
The time of our trials are almost over. Those who have upheld God's laws, which are spiritual in nature, NOT LEGAL IN THE WORLDS EYES, will gain acceptance into the kingdom of God.
And those who are adamant about putting limits upon WHO GOD MAY OR MAY NOT TALK THROUGH OR TO, NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Anything is possible with God, and HE is our maker. He knows us and has communicated with His creation since the beginning.
This is the age of men with stiff necks, haughty and heartless.
God can do as He pleases, He is THE CREATOR OF ALL, PERIOD.
WE SINNERS ARE NOTHING, HE CHOSE US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Soon we are going to be in a decision making situation. Remember that the devil prowls around confusing,DIVIDING, misguiding, devouring those who are not protected with the BREASTPLATE OF TRUTH, AND THE SWORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Ask yourselves "who" started this division of the "faith" given to you by Christ HIMSELF...
Ask yourselves "why" anyone would throw the baby out with the bath water concerning the mistakes that were purposefully done to confuse you and mislead you away from your true Faith,

The truth is that satan has been allowed to cause division in God's Only Son, Jesus Christ's church on Earth.
This was allowed to separate those who had the love of the truth, from those who did/do not. (the wheat and the chaff).

Mistakes have been made, but, not without God's own reasons.
Open your hearts, There is more to learn everyday!! Christ lives in our hearts and talks to us everyday.
Stay away from legalism.

Find out the universal way of eternal life. cause and effect, this is God's way of letting us learn from our mistakes, make the choice to learn or suffer from not learning our lesson. simple as that.

And if you are wondering why some very innocent people suffer for things in their life, remember that the "sins of the father" can last(visit upon) until the fourth generation. Sin is the cause of all sickness, perversion, hatred, all negativity.
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1484299


I AM HORRIFIED BY YOUR LOGIC. You really think that since Jesus Christ died on the cross that you can actually spout off this feel good religion and call it "The Way"??
Give me a break with your "do as thou wilt" way to Heaven cause "Jesus HAS ALREADY paid for my sins"..... and in advance since we were not born yet. The only ones this could possibly appeal to is the self-righteous and people who want their cake and eat it too.
Jesus came to show us the way by carrying our own cross the way he did in this world. Not by having others carry it for you. It does not work that way. No sir.
Ever herd of the narrow road? Well, it's the way to heaven.

Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. He gave us an example to follow, then sent the Holy Spirit to teach us.
His birth came to announce the time was at hand, the new age was upon us. He came to tell us to repent. Time was at hand. Ever think of what that statement means??
It means time is soon ending. Get our heart right through His ways, which was repentance, baptism for the remission of sin.
Why would you have baptisms if Jesus Christ already paid for sins, it does not make sense. Baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS. And if you sin, you repent of the sins, ask for forgiveness and are forgiven because you are a member of the BODY OF CHRIST through your baptism.

He showed us how we become a "member" of the "Body of Christ", which is by consuming the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST. AND HE DID NOT MINCE WORDS WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO ATE OF HIS BODY AND DRANK OF HIS BLOOD, WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AS WE WOULD BE IN HIM, AND HE IN US. THIS IS THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
We are to be the new wine in the new wine skin, CHRIST'S SKIN, SO TO SPEAK, FOR WE TAKE ON HIS NATURE WHEN WE UNITE WITH HIM IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST. A people who has had two thousand years to raise up a Holy People by practicing what Jesus Christ started and His apostles carried out.
See, a new age was/is clicking in place. The time of times is almost up.
The time of our trials are almost over. Those who have upheld God's laws, which are spiritual in nature, NOT LEGAL IN THE WORLDS EYES, will gain acceptance into the kingdom of God.
And those who are adamant about putting limits upon WHO GOD MAY OR MAY NOT TALK THROUGH OR TO, NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Anything is possible with God, and HE is our maker. He knows us and has communicated with His creation since the beginning.
This is the age of men with stiff necks, haughty and heartless.
God can do as He pleases, He is THE CREATOR OF ALL, PERIOD.
WE SINNERS ARE NOTHING, HE CHOSE US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Soon we are going to be in a decision making situation. Remember that the devil prowls around confusing,DIVIDING, misguiding, devouring those who are not protected with the BREASTPLATE OF TRUTH, AND THE SWORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Ask yourselves "who" started this division of the "faith" given to you by Christ HIMSELF...
Ask yourselves "why" anyone would throw the baby out with the bath water concerning the mistakes that were purposefully done to confuse you and mislead you away from your true Faith,

The truth is that satan has been allowed to cause division in God's Only Son, Jesus Christ's church on Earth.
This was allowed to separate those who had the love of the truth, from those who did/do not. (the wheat and the chaff).

Mistakes have been made, but, not without God's own reasons.
Open your hearts, There is more to learn everyday!! Christ lives in our hearts and talks to us everyday.
Stay away from legalism.

Find out the universal way of eternal life. cause and effect, this is God's way of letting us learn from our mistakes, make the choice to learn or suffer from not learning our lesson. simple as that.

And if you are wondering why some very innocent people suffer for things in their life, remember that the "sins of the father" can last(visit upon) until the fourth generation. Sin is the cause of all sickness, perversion, hatred, all negativity.
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Well said because it is the Truth. y_lovin

The only place in Scripture where Jesus explains how
He abides in us and we abide in Him is when you receive
the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
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Re: Protestants error again, proclaiming our justification comes by belief (faith) alone....
You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
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I AM HORRIFIED BY YOUR LOGIC. You really think that since Jesus Christ died on the cross that you can actually spout off this feel good religion and call it "The Way"??
Give me a break with your "do as thou wilt" way to Heaven cause "Jesus HAS ALREADY paid for my sins"..... and in advance since we were not born yet. The only ones this could possibly appeal to is the self-righteous and people who want their cake and eat it too.
Jesus came to show us the way by carrying our own cross the way he did in this world. Not by having others carry it for you. It does not work that way. No sir.
Ever herd of the narrow road? Well, it's the way to heaven.

Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. He gave us an example to follow, then sent the Holy Spirit to teach us.
His birth came to announce the time was at hand, the new age was upon us. He came to tell us to repent. Time was at hand. Ever think of what that statement means??
It means time is soon ending. Get our heart right through His ways, which was repentance, baptism for the remission of sin.
Why would you have baptisms if Jesus Christ already paid for sins, it does not make sense. Baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS. And if you sin, you repent of the sins, ask for forgiveness and are forgiven because you are a member of the BODY OF CHRIST through your baptism.

He showed us how we become a "member" of the "Body of Christ", which is by consuming the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST. AND HE DID NOT MINCE WORDS WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO ATE OF HIS BODY AND DRANK OF HIS BLOOD, WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AS WE WOULD BE IN HIM, AND HE IN US. THIS IS THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
We are to be the new wine in the new wine skin, CHRIST'S SKIN, SO TO SPEAK, FOR WE TAKE ON HIS NATURE WHEN WE UNITE WITH HIM IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST. A people who has had two thousand years to raise up a Holy People by practicing what Jesus Christ started and His apostles carried out.
See, a new age was/is clicking in place. The time of times is almost up.
The time of our trials are almost over. Those who have upheld God's laws, which are spiritual in nature, NOT LEGAL IN THE WORLDS EYES, will gain acceptance into the kingdom of God.
And those who are adamant about putting limits upon WHO GOD MAY OR MAY NOT TALK THROUGH OR TO, NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Anything is possible with God, and HE is our maker. He knows us and has communicated with His creation since the beginning.
This is the age of men with stiff necks, haughty and heartless.
God can do as He pleases, He is THE CREATOR OF ALL, PERIOD.
WE SINNERS ARE NOTHING, HE CHOSE US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Soon we are going to be in a decision making situation. Remember that the devil prowls around confusing,DIVIDING, misguiding, devouring those who are not protected with the BREASTPLATE OF TRUTH, AND THE SWORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Ask yourselves "who" started this division of the "faith" given to you by Christ HIMSELF...
Ask yourselves "why" anyone would throw the baby out with the bath water concerning the mistakes that were purposefully done to confuse you and mislead you away from your true Faith,

The truth is that satan has been allowed to cause division in God's Only Son, Jesus Christ's church on Earth.
This was allowed to separate those who had the love of the truth, from those who did/do not. (the wheat and the chaff).

Mistakes have been made, but, not without God's own reasons.
Open your hearts, There is more to learn everyday!! Christ lives in our hearts and talks to us everyday.
Stay away from legalism.

Find out the universal way of eternal life. cause and effect, this is God's way of letting us learn from our mistakes, make the choice to learn or suffer from not learning our lesson. simple as that.

And if you are wondering why some very innocent people suffer for things in their life, remember that the "sins of the father" can last(visit upon) until the fourth generation. Sin is the cause of all sickness, perversion, hatred, all negativity.
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You obviously have not read either my posts or the Bible. Stick to your "beloved" Roman Catholic Church. Look carefully when you are in the lake of fire - you will see the popes hanging out there with you. If you are real lucky...you can remember all of your "good works" that helped drop you off in the lake of fire.
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You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1484299


I AM HORRIFIED BY YOUR LOGIC. You really think that since Jesus Christ died on the cross that you can actually spout off this feel good religion and call it "The Way"??
Give me a break with your "do as thou wilt" way to Heaven cause "Jesus HAS ALREADY paid for my sins"..... and in advance since we were not born yet. The only ones this could possibly appeal to is the self-righteous and people who want their cake and eat it too.
Jesus came to show us the way by carrying our own cross the way he did in this world. Not by having others carry it for you. It does not work that way. No sir.
Ever herd of the narrow road? Well, it's the way to heaven.

Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. He gave us an example to follow, then sent the Holy Spirit to teach us.
His birth came to announce the time was at hand, the new age was upon us. He came to tell us to repent. Time was at hand. Ever think of what that statement means??
It means time is soon ending. Get our heart right through His ways, which was repentance, baptism for the remission of sin.
Why would you have baptisms if Jesus Christ already paid for sins, it does not make sense. Baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS. And if you sin, you repent of the sins, ask for forgiveness and are forgiven because you are a member of the BODY OF CHRIST through your baptism.

He showed us how we become a "member" of the "Body of Christ", which is by consuming the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST. AND HE DID NOT MINCE WORDS WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO ATE OF HIS BODY AND DRANK OF HIS BLOOD, WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AS WE WOULD BE IN HIM, AND HE IN US. THIS IS THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
We are to be the new wine in the new wine skin, CHRIST'S SKIN, SO TO SPEAK, FOR WE TAKE ON HIS NATURE WHEN WE UNITE WITH HIM IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST. A people who has had two thousand years to raise up a Holy People by practicing what Jesus Christ started and His apostles carried out.
See, a new age was/is clicking in place. The time of times is almost up.
The time of our trials are almost over. Those who have upheld God's laws, which are spiritual in nature, NOT LEGAL IN THE WORLDS EYES, will gain acceptance into the kingdom of God.
And those who are adamant about putting limits upon WHO GOD MAY OR MAY NOT TALK THROUGH OR TO, NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Anything is possible with God, and HE is our maker. He knows us and has communicated with His creation since the beginning.
This is the age of men with stiff necks, haughty and heartless.
God can do as He pleases, He is THE CREATOR OF ALL, PERIOD.
WE SINNERS ARE NOTHING, HE CHOSE US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Soon we are going to be in a decision making situation. Remember that the devil prowls around confusing,DIVIDING, misguiding, devouring those who are not protected with the BREASTPLATE OF TRUTH, AND THE SWORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Ask yourselves "who" started this division of the "faith" given to you by Christ HIMSELF...
Ask yourselves "why" anyone would throw the baby out with the bath water concerning the mistakes that were purposefully done to confuse you and mislead you away from your true Faith,

The truth is that satan has been allowed to cause division in God's Only Son, Jesus Christ's church on Earth.
This was allowed to separate those who had the love of the truth, from those who did/do not. (the wheat and the chaff).

Mistakes have been made, but, not without God's own reasons.
Open your hearts, There is more to learn everyday!! Christ lives in our hearts and talks to us everyday.
Stay away from legalism.

Find out the universal way of eternal life. cause and effect, this is God's way of letting us learn from our mistakes, make the choice to learn or suffer from not learning our lesson. simple as that.

And if you are wondering why some very innocent people suffer for things in their life, remember that the "sins of the father" can last(visit upon) until the fourth generation. Sin is the cause of all sickness, perversion, hatred, all negativity.
 Quoting: Angel Helper


Well said because it is the Truth. y_lovin

The only place in Scripture where Jesus explains how
He abides in us and we abide in Him is when you receive
the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764


No more mincing words with you. You are going to burn in the lake of fire. Your arrogance is putting you there. Out of pride you refuse to answer, even unto yourself, the simplest of questions. Is Jesus in heaven? Yes or no?
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OP, you also brought up the fallacy of "transubstantiation." Pray tell...what time frame does this flesh you claim to be eating come from? We read in Revelations that Jesus is in a glorified body. Are you eating glorified flesh? Is it human flesh? Didn't Jesus ascend into heaven? If you had really read (fully) John 6 you would have seen that Jesus is talking about symbolically (by recognizing His death on the cross) eating His flesh and drinking His blood. Flesh cannot inherit the spirit. We must be born again..of the spirit!
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No more mincing words with you. You are going to burn in the lake of fire. Your arrogance is putting you there. Out of pride you refuse to answer, even unto yourself, the simplest of questions. Is Jesus in heaven? Yes or no?
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You've deemed someone worthy of a pool of literal fire just because of their beliefs? Or 'cuz they won't answer your question? Lighten up.

Anyone who does end up in the "lake of fire" will be fine. Jesus is there with them. And it's not real fire. God said several times in the old testament that burning people is vile. He uses metaphorical fire to refine us, not destroy us.
Here are some of the things which scripture defines as "fire":

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20

Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .

Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.
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The only place in Scripture where Jesus explains how
He abides in us and we abide in Him is when you receive
the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764


That's not the only place - consider John 14:23. . .

"Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him"
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No more mincing words with you. You are going to burn in the lake of fire. Your arrogance is putting you there. Out of pride you refuse to answer, even unto yourself, the simplest of questions. Is Jesus in heaven? Yes or no?
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You've deemed someone worthy of a pool of literal fire just because of their beliefs? Or 'cuz they won't answer your question? Lighten up.

Anyone who does end up in the "lake of fire" will be fine. Jesus is there with them. And it's not real fire. God said several times in the old testament that burning people is vile. He uses metaphorical fire to refine us, not destroy us.
Here are some of the things which scripture defines as "fire":

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20

Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .

Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The desire of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485887


Please stay out of our trading of posts....yours is a fallacy for another thread...perhaps you should go back and read Matthew 25:41 and Revelations 20:10!
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well, if belief (faith) is not the justification then that dude on the cross, the one jesus said would be in paradise with him that day, well, he's in hell then and jesus is a liar.

or you are.
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or what of those dudes who questioning jesus said, 'what must we do to work teh works of god"?

his reply.

"this is the work of god, to believe on him whom he hath sent".

nothing MORE.

nothing LESS.

believe!
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You are preaching a false doctrine. There is no other means to be saved other than faith in Jesus!

Answer this question...

Jesus said, "I did not come here to cancel the law, but to fulfill it." Is Jesus still here bodily on earth? The law has been fulfilled! Yet another "trick" question...what is the monthly mortgage payment in the 20th year..on a 15 year loan that was $2,000.00/month?

If your answer was $0.00, give yourself a few bonus points! When the contract is over, then there is no longer a need to pay the mortgage. Learn that! The "bill" for the "Law" has been PAID!!!!!! There is NO NEED TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO FULFILL THE LAW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1484299


I AM HORRIFIED BY YOUR LOGIC. You really think that since Jesus Christ died on the cross that you can actually spout off this feel good religion and call it "The Way"??
Give me a break with your "do as thou wilt" way to Heaven cause "Jesus HAS ALREADY paid for my sins"..... and in advance since we were not born yet. The only ones this could possibly appeal to is the self-righteous and people who want their cake and eat it too.
Jesus came to show us the way by carrying our own cross the way he did in this world. Not by having others carry it for you. It does not work that way. No sir.
Ever herd of the narrow road? Well, it's the way to heaven.

Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. He gave us an example to follow, then sent the Holy Spirit to teach us.
His birth came to announce the time was at hand, the new age was upon us. He came to tell us to repent. Time was at hand. Ever think of what that statement means??
It means time is soon ending. Get our heart right through His ways, which was repentance, baptism for the remission of sin.
Why would you have baptisms if Jesus Christ already paid for sins, it does not make sense. Baptism is for the REMISSION OF SINS. And if you sin, you repent of the sins, ask for forgiveness and are forgiven because you are a member of the BODY OF CHRIST through your baptism.

He showed us how we become a "member" of the "Body of Christ", which is by consuming the BODY AND BLOOD OF CHRIST. AND HE DID NOT MINCE WORDS WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO ATE OF HIS BODY AND DRANK OF HIS BLOOD, WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AS WE WOULD BE IN HIM, AND HE IN US. THIS IS THE UNITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
We are to be the new wine in the new wine skin, CHRIST'S SKIN, SO TO SPEAK, FOR WE TAKE ON HIS NATURE WHEN WE UNITE WITH HIM IN THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST. A people who has had two thousand years to raise up a Holy People by practicing what Jesus Christ started and His apostles carried out.
See, a new age was/is clicking in place. The time of times is almost up.
The time of our trials are almost over. Those who have upheld God's laws, which are spiritual in nature, NOT LEGAL IN THE WORLDS EYES, will gain acceptance into the kingdom of God.
And those who are adamant about putting limits upon WHO GOD MAY OR MAY NOT TALK THROUGH OR TO, NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Anything is possible with God, and HE is our maker. He knows us and has communicated with His creation since the beginning.
This is the age of men with stiff necks, haughty and heartless.
God can do as He pleases, He is THE CREATOR OF ALL, PERIOD.
WE SINNERS ARE NOTHING, HE CHOSE US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Soon we are going to be in a decision making situation. Remember that the devil prowls around confusing,DIVIDING, misguiding, devouring those who are not protected with the BREASTPLATE OF TRUTH, AND THE SWORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Ask yourselves "who" started this division of the "faith" given to you by Christ HIMSELF...
Ask yourselves "why" anyone would throw the baby out with the bath water concerning the mistakes that were purposefully done to confuse you and mislead you away from your true Faith,

The truth is that satan has been allowed to cause division in God's Only Son, Jesus Christ's church on Earth.
This was allowed to separate those who had the love of the truth, from those who did/do not. (the wheat and the chaff).

Mistakes have been made, but, not without God's own reasons.
Open your hearts, There is more to learn everyday!! Christ lives in our hearts and talks to us everyday.
Stay away from legalism.

Find out the universal way of eternal life. cause and effect, this is God's way of letting us learn from our mistakes, make the choice to learn or suffer from not learning our lesson. simple as that.

And if you are wondering why some very innocent people suffer for things in their life, remember that the "sins of the father" can last(visit upon) until the fourth generation. Sin is the cause of all sickness, perversion, hatred, all negativity.
 Quoting: Angel Helper


Well said because it is the Truth. y_lovin

The only place in Scripture where Jesus explains how
He abides in us and we abide in Him is when you receive
the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764


No more mincing words with you. You are going to burn in the lake of fire. Your arrogance is putting you there. Out of pride you refuse to answer, even unto yourself, the simplest of questions. Is Jesus in heaven? Yes or no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486125


Why do you ask, this is why I don't reply. You persist,
for what reason? And telling me I am damned is not very
nice Ac 14861..
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The only place in Scripture where Jesus explains how
He abides in us and we abide in Him is when you receive
the Holy Eucharist.

John 6:57
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764


That's not the only place - consider John 14:23. . .

"Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485887


I don't see the word abide. John 14:23?

How do you keep Our Lord's words if you deny the Holy Eucharist? Unless you consume the Eucharist, you have no life you. Read John 6:54.

If you reject the Eucharist, you ignore Our Lord here
too.

John 15:14
You are my friends, if you do the things that I command you.


It's crazy, to choose for grape juice and crackers when
you can receive God Himself. hf
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Non-Catholic Christians refer to John 3:16 to be a reason for their easy justification. They refuse to look at all of Scripture and never view Scripture in context. Taking one verse... No, no, no.

Soon Lord, enlighten our dear brothers and Sisters in Christ. Jesus does, explaining one more time, He states the Truth in the prophetic.

+ + +

message given Father Melvin Doucette

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

The Walking on the Water




Then Jesus made the disciples get into the boat and precede him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowds. After doing so, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When it was evening he was there alone. Meanwhile the boat, already a few miles offshore, was being tossed about by the waves; for the wind was against it. During the fourth watch of the night, Jesus came toward them, walking on the sea. When the disciples saw him walking on the sea they were terrified: "It is a ghost," they said, and they cried out in fear. At once Jesus spoke to them, "Take courage, it is I, do not be afraid." Peter said to him in reply, "Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you on the water." He said, "Come." Peter got out of the boat and began to walk on the water toward Jesus. But when he saw how strong the wind was he became frightened; and, beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord, save me." Immediately Jesus stretched out his hand and caught him, and said to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?" After they got into the boat, the wind died down. Those who were in the boat did him homage, saying, "Truly, you are the Son of God."
(Passage from the Gospel of St. Matthew 14:27-33)


"I love you, My brother Melvin and all My brothers and sisters living in the world. Open your hearts to Me and I will give you all the graces you need to follow Me. I will strengthen your faith to believe in Me with all your heart and to oppose all the temptations of the evil one.

The Apostles were terrified when they saw Me walking on the water. They had never seen a person doing such a thing. I wanted to show them that I had great power, which only God has. Indeed this miracle touched the Apostles deeply and they made an act of faith in Me, saying, 'Truly, you are the Son of God.' Yes, I am the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity who became man to save you all. However, in order for you to be saved, you need to cooperate with Me. Besides your faith in Me, you need to follow the commandments and if you sin, to repent of your sins. In your love for Me, you will follow all that I have taught you especially to belong to My Church, to pray regularly and to go to church every Sunday. You will love your brothers and sisters and forgive those who have offended you in any way. Live in close union with Me and you will grow in holiness daily. I am your friend who is always ready to help you if you come to Me. I bless you all."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465764



I do not believe that faith alone saves...and I am not Catholic.
"Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be. ALL truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself."

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