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New Russian Drug - more powerful than heroin and MAKES YOUR SKIN ROT OFF!

 
Anonymous Coward
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07/28/2011 08:08 AM
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anyone got a link on how to make it?

just curious
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From the articlein the OP:

"In Tver, most krokodil users inject the drug only when they run out of money for heroin."

If they would legalize heroin, addicts could buy it cheaply, and not have to resort to cooking krokodill.

More collateral damage in the war on drugs. Sad
Not intended to be a factual statement.
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07/28/2011 08:59 AM
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This is a psy-op thread intended for weed smokers.

420 has a secondary meaning.

It's dragon code.

Dragons are ADDICTED TO BLOOD.

See right through it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466944


Please, tell more. This was the only interesting comment amid the sea of shock, triggers, and minute amount of legit people talking.
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07/28/2011 09:01 AM
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Gross...but the real question is, how high does it get you?
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07/28/2011 09:21 AM
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And what about that girl, 20th second?

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i'd hit that
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And what about that girl, 20th second?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1076086


i'd hit that
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You would probably break that if you hit it very hard.

Plus, I imagine the rotting flesh smells like, well, rotting flesh.
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07/28/2011 09:32 AM
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The horrors of drug addiction, I can begin to understand.

Some of the comments here... are incomprehensible.

The addicts will simply die, and let it be our hope that it is with merciful swiftness, and surrounded by compassionate, professional caregivers.

The motivation behind of some of the comments here... is more terrifying.
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07/28/2011 09:36 AM
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Russians don't believe in analgesia or anesthesia. Yikes.
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07/28/2011 09:39 AM
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What fucking idiots. I'd say I feel bad for them, but I'd be lying. They know the consequences, yet do it any way. I have no sympathy for them.
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You're evil. You need to have compassion for everyone.
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07/28/2011 09:44 AM
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Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies

"It is a drug for the poor, and its effects are horrific. It was given its reptilian name because its poisonous ingredients quickly turn the skin scaly. Worse follows. Oleg and Sasha have not been using for long, but Oleg has rotting sores on the back of his neck.

"If you miss the vein, that's an abscess straight away," says Sasha. Essentially, they are injecting poison directly into their flesh. One of their friends, in a neighbouring apartment block, is further down the line.

"She won't go to hospital, she just keeps injecting. Her flesh is falling off and she can hardly move anymore," says Sasha. Photographs of late-stage krokodil addicts are disturbing in the extreme. Flesh goes grey and peels away to leave bones exposed. People literally rot to death."


Full article here:

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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I think you will find it is to do with radiation?
Anonymous Coward
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07/28/2011 09:46 AM
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This is a psy-op thread intended for weed smokers.

420 has a secondary meaning.

It's dragon code.

Dragons are ADDICTED TO BLOOD.

See right through it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466944


Please, tell more. This was the only interesting comment amid the sea of shock, triggers, and minute amount of legit people talking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190563


please!!! MORE!!!
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Dr Discordia
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07/28/2011 09:56 AM
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anyone got a link on how to make it?

just curious
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I could tell you. Off the top of my head.

As i said earlier they basically use off the shelf codeine and remove the methyl group and remove a hydroxy group.

You can do a similar thing with codeine by removing the methyl group and basically reacting it in a condenser with acetic anhydride to produce synthesized illicit heroin.

Diacetylmorphine, di, two, acetyl, acetyl group, morphine.

Thats why heroin is called diamorphine, its basically just a form of morphine that passes the blood brain barrier easier than regular morphine, probably as a result of a different molecular polarity and as such is more potent.

Whats crazier is you could technically use genetically modified bacteria/funghi to convert codeine into morphine/heroin for you. At least theoretically.

I have read theoretical papers on fungi potentially being used to turn a chemical precursor into a psychoactive compound.

I'm no chemist though.
Dr Discordia
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07/28/2011 09:58 AM
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You're evil. You need to have compassion for everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1476865


You have compassion for a junkie, you get robbed and possibly stabbed and killed for 50 dollars.

Drug use isnt the problem, there is nothing wrong with drugs only the people who abuse them, this is drug abuse.
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Desomorphine (Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid, also known as Krokodil) is an opiate analogue invented in 1932 in the United States
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Gross...but the real question is, how high does it get you?
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Probably similar to heroin.

Actually that gives me a thought, wonder if this causes severe itchyness of the skin, opiates totally do that sometimes.

Dirty junkie fingernails full of bacteria and fungi scratching at the skin whilst so high they dont know they are doing it because its subconscious. They might be self inflicting these skin infections by scratching.

Could give you some idea of the cause of these skin problems.
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Desomorphine (Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid, also known as Krokodil) is an opiate analogue invented in 1932 in the United States
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There are hundreds of derivatives.

Some opiates i know about have 2000 times the potency of heroin.

Basically cant be used on people, even minute doses can be fatal.

Do you remember that russian siege where the russian special forces gassed everybody and the hostages died, that was probably some aerosol opiate of a similar potency, couple of drops on the skin of the pure compound may be enough to know you out.

Few ug in your lungs might be enough to make you sleep for 8 hours.
Anonymous Coward
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07/28/2011 10:06 AM
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Russians don't believe in analgesia or anesthesia. Yikes.
 Quoting: Brutalsun


How do you anaesthetize somebody safely who has been using heroin for 20 years and now injects enough that would ordinarily kill a normal person.

Cross tolerance with aesthetics could be an issue.
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The motivation behind of some of the comments here... is more terrifying.
 Quoting: Birdwatcher 1481712


The majority of drug problems are self inflicted.

Drug addicts fail to acknowledge the blame that their habit generally starts and stops with them and them alone.
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07/28/2011 10:12 AM
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reminds me of the book....sexual disease in russia by i rotchercockoff
googooflexy

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07/28/2011 10:21 AM
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now you can feel like a zombie... and look like one too!!!!
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That's nasty. I thought I had seen everything.
puke
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You ain't seen nothing yet.

I won't embed the video. There's plenty more.

[link to www.liveleak.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485637


By far the single most fucked up thing I've ever seen.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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What fucking idiots. I'd say I feel bad for them, but I'd be lying. They know the consequences, yet do it any way. I have no sympathy for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485637


That's why addictive drugs are so bad. People go into robot mode and just keep on doing it over and over again even know they know that its bad for them. I actually do feel bad for them. Its like being trapped in a spiders web, no way out.
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07/28/2011 10:26 AM
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now you can feel like a zombie... and look like one too!!!!
 Quoting: .:*BettyButtercup*:.


That's nasty. I thought I had seen everything.
:puke:
 Quoting: whiterussian


You ain't seen nothing yet.

I won't embed the video. There's plenty more.

[link to www.liveleak.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485637


By far the single most fucked up thing I've ever seen.
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I'm not watching.
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Desomorphine (Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid, also known as Krokodil) is an opiate analogue invented in 1932 in the United States
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1299070



There are hundreds of derivatives.

Some opiates i know about have 2000 times the potency of heroin.

Basically cant be used on people, even minute doses can be fatal.

Do you remember that russian siege where the russian special forces gassed everybody and the hostages died, that was probably some aerosol opiate of a similar potency, couple of drops on the skin of the pure compound may be enough to know you out.

Few ug in your lungs might be enough to make you sleep for 8 hours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482075

The problem is that we in the pharmacy codeine drugs sold without a prescription. It is no longer. 15 years ago, many сhinese have been doing business in Russian pharmacies buying cough medicines containing codeine(pentalgin or codelac). Then we do not know whyabduct So, a simple cough medicine such as drug addicts clean and home-prepared
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This is a psy-op thread intended for weed smokers.

420 has a secondary meaning.

It's dragon code.

Dragons are ADDICTED TO BLOOD.

See right through it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466944


Please, tell more. This was the only interesting comment amid the sea of shock, triggers, and minute amount of legit people talking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190563


please!!! MORE!!!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485729


Ok. sorry for delay.

Big oil(petroleum) and Myrrh (Hemp) are two polar opposite power sources.

Petroleum would loose it's power to enslave if hemp were legal to grow.

You can produce anything with hemp and hemp by products that you can with oil. Plus it produces a much cleaner and more hi-test end product.

Legalization of hemp would 'slay the dragon', so to speak.

Hemp was at one time, as a matter of fact, the 'prime mover' before big oil was discovered. Hemp had to be SUPPRESSED and villainized as a 'dangerous substance' and outlawed. Has nothing to do with wanting to protect you from harmful substances. In fact it is the OPPOSITE. Hemp is the basis (main ingresient) in the Holy Anointing oil in the Holy Scriptures. The recipe is literally in the bible.

Pressed hemp seed is spoken of in chapter 1 of Daniel. Daniel choose to eat what was given to the poor, orphans and widows of Babylon. Bible calls it 'pulse'. The Babylonian's only wanted the extracted oil which they traded in and would then buy the finest MEATS. Read to the end of Daniel 1 and you realize that the 'pulse' made them geniuses, ten times smarter than the rest. Check todays science and it is believed even today to be a powerful brain food.

As far as the 420 number is concerned, I read somewhere of it's origins and has to do ,supposedly, with a code language which means 'kill the potheads'. Some type of demonic code from my understanding. Can't back that up but read something about it that kinda made me wonder.

Essentially hemp could be the plant to save us all. It is under a smear campaign simply because the Dragon wants to have a monopoly.

Ezekiel 34
28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.
29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.


As of now if you are associated with pot in any way you are put among the 'shameful heathen'.

One day that will change.
Anonymous Coward
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07/28/2011 11:49 AM
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This is super graphic.




...I warned ya
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flipping DISGUSTING - IS THAT EVEN REAL???
CatG (OP)

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07/28/2011 01:23 PM
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This is a psy-op thread intended for weed smokers.

420 has a secondary meaning.

It's dragon code.

Dragons are ADDICTED TO BLOOD.

See right through it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466944


A psy-op thread? Not at all! I am not anti-drug by any means. I don't have any problem with weed. I think smoking a joint rather than a drinking a glass of vodka is a much better way to relax. Healthier and less destructive.

But let's be honest here, opiates are kinda the devil. I mean, sure they are great if you just lost a limb during the war or woke up missing a kidney, but otherwise keep away.
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And after reading through all the responses, I am a bit confused. I thought that this drug caused a person's skin to rot off because of the chemicals being injected. Some of you are saying it is because of skin infections gone out of control?

Anyone have any more information on this?
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" This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets,
and their tongues will rot in their mouths. "


[link to bible.cc]



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That stuff makes Meth mouth look like fun.....
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I don't think there are many Long Term Krok addicts...