Only the awakened will ascend the 9th wave

Sorry but what complete man made nonsense, but hey if you want to believe that it's a free world.

But here's my spin, which is much more simple and only has one level. As we are all part of the cosmos/ energy/soup ...that all has duality ... there are no levels of attainment, achievement or enlightenment (except those we place on it)..as they are all illusionary man made concepts... like most other stupid doctrines too!

What we do here in our lives is unimportant and irrelevant and if and when we die we just might (an I believe do) have the potential of rejoining the ether (at best) ...with no judgement, roles, missions or agendas...because that is the fundamental point of the cosmos ...because there is no greater meaning to it all!

It is all just the random interactions of energy and matter and probability (at best)..all connected, but equally individual, disconnected and unstable. Just open your eyes and see, accept and enjoy because chaos and duality is beautiful because there is no real sense of true order or stability in it or to it.

We are just lucky enough (or not), depending on what circumstances yu find yourself), to see and experience life in the physical realm as human beings! Which although is somewhat challenging, due to regional variables, difference and manmade doctrines, dogmas and environmental conditions, is also very special indeed...due to its simplicity not it’s supposed complexity.

Evolution (on any level) is not about evolving higher (as many seem to believe)..because many primary organism have remained the same form and function for billions of years (because they have had no real reason to change or mutate). They are no better or worse than humans because we both exist and co-exist together in the physical. So instead of always feeling the need to falsely develop and evolve further.. it is actually just as valid to simply accept the wonder and diversity of existence itself...and stay where and as you are..if you are happy and not threatened.

I hope you get the drift because..whether you like or not there is no special order or treatment in the cosmos.

Peace and all the best whatever journey you choose

^^ Yes I agree with your argument. I think acceptance is very ahrd for most humans. Even successfull people cannot accept their success and want more success. I think acceptance of the moment is a new part of human consciousness. So in a way your argument fits in with my post.

thanks for this...depression was getting a hold on me.
this lifts me back out again.

Great post, OP. I hope your words ring true. I've been working on letting go of my ego and it hasn't been easy. But it has made me feel good about myself and the decisions i make in life now.

Great post, OP. I hope your words ring true. I've been working on letting go of my ego and it hasn't been easy. But it has made me feel good about myself and the decisions i make in life now.

Lift your depression. What we are in for in the very near future will make your heart soar. It will be greater than any of us can comprehend. We're all really tired just like you. Just Hold on.

I can't completely control my ego either. It's a work in progress but I'm getting there. At least I think I am. I am able to see the ego at work and work to stop it. It's about controlling our thoughts. Hard to do, but necessary because we will begin to manifest what we think instantaneously in the near future.

I totally agree that people need to release the ego, but it's not a huge issue in ascension because in time, everyone will ascend.

According to Dolores Cannon, you only need to be 51% positive.

According to the Law of One, you must be 51% orientation towards service to others.

Yep - read that 51% in several places.
Yay!

The works of Ekchart Tolle have worked for me in helping me control my ego.

I'm riding the 12th wave now. You guys need to catch up...

Ego is not your thoughts about yourself (whose thoughts about what self?). It's the sense of apparently individual existence itself, whether thinking about it is happening or not. How do you release that? Shotgun blast to the head?

You don't have to release it, just see it for what it is.

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Monkeys did not evolve into humans. We are alien/ape hybrids.

Very interesting! I agree!
The ego can be very annoying sometimes :p

Thank you

I agree. We evolved from a common ancestor.

well someone must like it i can't be on my own.


bootybay ? is that wake island ?

John Kimmey Talks about Hopi Prophecy

John Kimmey, a longtime spokesman for the Hopi elders, has released this article. ( [link to www.dancingawakethefifthworld.com]

"According to the Hopi Prophecy we are in the latter days of The Time of Purification. We are in the process of resolution of polarities we have caused through our limited comprehension of universal principles. The ancient prophecy of the Hopis provides us with a number of specific significant future events and their corresponding instructions. These instructions serve as a guide to our responses to these events. The Time of Purification began with the release of the first nuclear explosions in 1945. The event known in the Prophecy as the Third Great Shaking is our present point with which our attention must be focused. There are two eventualities to be considered.

The first phase, it states, could be the best case scenario and could conclude this cycle, known as the Fourth World, in harmony with the intention of Great Spirit (the Universe). It is said that at this time the polarities will be so extreme that it will appear that all things will seem to be opposite to the True Path of Life.

I was told that good would be called bad, right would be considered wrong, that wealth would become poverty, and that men and women would tend to choose living apart. We are obviously in that predicament now. The instructions accompanying this condition are very clear. We are to identify the polarities in our personal lives and to begin mitigation of our issues, those both contrived and inherited, with deep intention, practice, and patience.

On the universal scale, the polarities will become obvious as the physical world responds to this imbalance with severe disturbance of the natural cycles that have always maintained a solid state system within Nature. What we have recently termed “earth changes” will involve all four elements. Today we are suffering massive fires, especially in draught areas. The winds will intensify and become unpredictable. Floods will occur in areas where they are not typical. Earthquakes will become more frequent and increase in intensity. And the very polarity of the geomagnetic field and the resonant frequency fields of the earth will create global changes. Presently, the drift of the location of the North and South Poles is moving significantly faster than has ever been previously monitored.

Politically, human behaviour, by its very nature, is demanding change. The old order principles by which we govern and are governed must be changed. Our economics is based upon exploitation ever since the industrial revolution. As our resources dwindle and populations increase such antiquated principles as Profit, Private property, Possessiveness, and Competition must be replaced with their opposites. The prophecy urges us to gather ourselves and be good to each other. They warn that the time of the lone wolf is over. Our common problems have foreshadowed our common differences. We can only survive if we cooperate on achieving common goals.

On a spiritual/cultural level we must abandon all belief systems that maintain exclusivity. Religious chauvinism is the present excuse for waging war. Ideologies, such as democracy, oligarchy, pragmatism, socialism, etc. all reflect the antiquated forms devised to uphold the old principles of the Fourth World . Sectarian principles of governance and religious dogma must be replaced with a global holistic approach to preservation of the environment. The greatest spiritual polarity, the ultimate challenge, is reflected in the vast differences in the Eastern theology and that of the West.

The Western traditions foster mandates on behaviour (i.e. The Ten Commandments). A higher authority outside of us demands the nature of our thoughts and actions. Deviation is considered a sin and generates condemnation. It also implies that we are all, by our very natures deviants, therefore condemned. Only the most righteous will earn a place in Heaven. The belief systems generated from this theology only require meeting the present circumstances and are seldom influenced by projected long term consequences.

The Eastern traditions reflect a very different, direct opposite point of view. The authority is not a conscious entity apart from us. It is an integral aspect of human nature, know as Mind. The purpose of life is to develop Mind so that it will lead us out of the collectively generated illusion known as Maya, and enter the expanded state of Mind known as enlightenment. Since everyone has the same opportunity and ability to reach this highest state a universal wisdom and compassion are generated and re-established with every successive generation.

Resolution of this polarity is the most challenging and necessary function of our evolutionary destiny. We must become one family, not next door neighbours. According to the Prophecy the Third Great Shaking creates the opportunity for such resolution. It states that the people of the red symbol, with red hats and cloaks will come first out of the East, small in number, bringing wisdom and knowledge to this land (The West). We are urged to accept these teachings and to integrate them into our present lifestyle, making the necessary adjustments to regain resolution. From the early sixties to the present we have seen the teachers arrive from the East, bringing their teachings to the West with great intention and vision. Many of us have adopted these teachings and are now practicing in our unique Western fashions. Some have already attained the enlightened state and are among the present generation of teachers and gurus. The teachings of indigenous peoples are included as Eastern in this regard. We Americans have become challenged by these Native American teachers to take the teachings to heart and to indigenize our way of life. Many seekers have responded, have become initiated onto the Red Road, and quietly go about their new lifestyle cautiously apart from the mainstream. I am one of those.

Grandfather David, my Hopi teacher, told me of this crucial time in these words. One day you will wake up and it will be too late to make your changes. I immediately perceived that we have all the time in the world and not a moment more. I refer to this Fourth World, a cycle with its own agenda in time and space. After that moment we will lose our power over the outcome. We will become merely victims of that outcome, our survival contingent upon the quality of our hearts. In Eastern terms, we will become fused to our karma. This marks the last moment of divine grace, our communion with our Source.

According to Prophecy, at this irreversible moment, the force of the red symbol will assume another form, with an opposite objective. We can anticipate that the red hat people will come out of the West. They will come large in number. They will fall out of the sky like rain and overtake the land in one day. They will have no mercy for anyone and will enforce a way of life on us that we would never choose for ourselves.? When this message was finally delivered fifteen years ago to the Secretary General of the United Nations and sixteen delegates, they speculated that it might be the Chinese. The Elders, at that point, were dutifully retaining their options. They were warned not to speculate but to concentrate upon the instruction of preparation and compassion.

This occurrence will trigger the most crucial event in the Prophecy. It is where an ancient relative returns to the Hopi Mesas carrying a stone tablet that will complete the migrations and seal the cycle known as the Fourth World. He is known to the Hopi as The Pahana, The Purifier. His ancestor was of light complexion so he is also known as the Great White Brother. It is his function to purify the world of all the wicked people.

When I first heard this I immediately referred to the second coming of Christ, then to the Maitraya Buddha, then Nostradamus, and on into many end time mythologies. It is the Judgment Day taken literally as the Prophecy calls it the Day of Purification. It is said that the only survivors will be the “one hearted,” those paltry few who have hearts pure enough to qualify as seeds for the Fifth World. Even if there is only one pair of one hearteds, maybe a brother and sister, Great Spirit’s promise of a human presence in the Fifth World will be kept and Maasawu, the Great Spirit of the Fourth World will meet them and usher them into the Fifth World.

Our spiritual connection with our Mother Earth and a sense of a common destiny with her will be challenged. Each person will have to deal with that reality. Each will be tested. The prophecy instructions explain that our relationship with our Earth is fundamental to our being. We must embrace her spirit and take our instructions from her. Those that choose the other path will discover that they have been deceived. They will become the playthings of a heartless race, and yes, their life spans will be extended so they have longer to suffer.

The consequence of choosing to remain with our Mother will be an ever growing connection with all biological life forms. We will become true Terrans. Our newly awakened sense of oneness will evolve our deeper communication abilities and endow our relationships with ever more satisfying results. As the Hopi elders said, WE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

In conclusion, we are now being humbled to see that all our technology and our culture of science have led us into a belief that this sacrosanct culture possesses empirical knowledge of the world and its systems. Yet, upon reflection, we know that the generation of this “knowledge” was assembled by many generations of individuals who pursued the Truth with little or no accountability to the perceptions of our pre scientific ancestor cultures. This realization now could save us. The only stewards of this Earth with a track record of sustainability and harmony for thousands of years are these very ancestor cultures. The Hopis warn that annihilation of the remnants of those cultures will definitely eliminate human participation in the Fifth World.

If this radical divergence from our comfortable relationship with our culture of science seems outrageous, just note the statement given by Dr Micheo Kaku, quantum physicist, some years ago. He stated that the foremost physicists are now consulting every thirty days in order to consider all the new discoveries and conduct a complete revision of science.

This crisis is demanding that we employ a previously overlooked faculty of human nature, namely our Divinity. This faculty has always been active but almost completely ignored in this last century. It is through the filter of our hearts and emotions that we can reawaken this reliable source of Truth. This is a personal process and not an institutional one. The reason that religions have so much influence over our psyches is that we have sold our hearts, and our personal communion with Great Spirit to what the Hopis call the high priests of the two hearteds. Those would be the institutions of science and religion.

Grandfather explained to me, When Creator created the world he gave each life form a Way to be in harmony with all other forms. When humans were created, we too were given a Way. That Way is known as the True Path of Life. By returning to the adherence to Natural Law we will return to that Path, our birthright. Astonishingly, not only the Maya singled out this 2012 date, now looming so close. Similar Last Days prophecies are found from the Hopi, Navajo, Cherokee, Apache, ancient Egyptians, Kabbalists, Essenes, Qero elders of Peru, Subsaharan Dogon tribe, and the Australian Aborigines."

Bird Kachina by Tom Perkinson

I like this. Except that... I think the whole notion of being "awakened" is an ego trap in itself. Your theory, strangely, seems to support this as well.

I can understand the concept of being awake as being caught in the ego thinking you are somehow different than others.

How do you get by this? Many claim to have been woke up after all the corruption and false flags over the past decade and beyond. I do notice people who claim to be awake tend to yell sheeple more than others. I would say this is the EGO thinking they are somehow wiser than the person who still follows the illusion.

What about those who have passed on?

I think you answered your own question...