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*HOW TO GET OUT OF YOUR BODY AT ANY TIME*

 
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So what's the worst thing that could happen?
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The experience blows your concept of reality...A God high...an awakening....Born again by Christian standards..however you want to put it...You will have to restart your whole life because you saw the truth...tis not an easy path afterwards. Both a blessing and a curse but worth it in the long run..
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This thread as actually freaked me out abit.

As a young lad and now im 40 .....i have had experiences where ive been asleep yet felt that i am awake inside but cannot move my body and usually end up stressing and willing myself to wake.......many time relieved when i do.
There was one time not so long ago and i told my other half about this that i had the same experience again but i felt like i had someone by the side of me that i can only describe as being a black presence........which really put the shits up me when i eventually woke up.

Does this in anyway have anything to do with a possible obe?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Oh.....thanks
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I have a few things to say about this.

1. This is a technology that has been used for thousands of years by the indigenous peoples of North America. It can be taught and learned. BUT there are specific methods for doing this. The most important part, I think, is that before leaving your body, you should be in your medicine space. What is a "medicine space"? It is a place where you go in meditation. The specific technique I learned, which was passed down from tracker Tom Brown, Jr., is called the Long Form Meditation. I cannot remember off the top of my head which tribe it comes from. But basically, you use a few techniques to accomplish this. First, there is something called a "command breath". Whenever you are taking a specific action, you use a command breath to accomplish it. Ok. So the gist of it is, you do this relaxation stuff everyone has already mentioned here (relaxing each part of your body, starting with the toes), then in your mind you go down a path. There are landmarks on the path--notice or decide what they are (don't tell other people, this is for you to find your way down the path and back again). At the end of the path, turn right, and there are steps leading down. (Obviously at first this is done as a GUIDED meditation, you don't have to remember all this.) There are six steps. With a command breath, take the first step down. Keep doing this until you reach the bottom. Then there is a brightly lit archway at the bottom. With a command breath, step through the archway. This puts you in your medicine space. You can then do all these OBE techniques, leave your body, fly around, go wherever you want, come back to your body, carefully align yourself with that physical form (feet first, moving up). Then you walk out the archway, up the steps, turn left, back down your path, passing your recognizable landmarks, then at the end you open your eyes. I JUST learned this like last week, so although it is fresh in my mind, I am definitely a beginner at all this. But I wanted to make the point about the medicine space. That is a place of protection, and I recommend that technique for anyone who wants to use this method. This is supposedly why the native peoples all over the continent called this place Turtle Island. White settlers said, "but why do you all call it Turtle Island?" and were told, essentially, "Duh, because it looks like a turtle..." (Alaska is the head, Florida the tail...) Because they fly up and look at things from above all the time.

2. According to the native teachings, meditation is not the end goal, but merely a way to get to your medicine space so you can practice your shamanic skills.

If you want to learn these skills, try taking a class.

Maine: www.primitiveskills.com
New Jersey: www.trackerschool.com
Ohio and Oregon: www.coyotetrails.org

oh wait, here's a whole giant list:

[link to www.survivalistbooks.com]

I think if you want to learn shamanic skills, learn them from people who can teach you most effectively. The native peoples of this continent saw (in visions) the impending attack by the European settlers, worked hard to hide away their shamanic skills and teachings so they would survive the genocide, and are now teaching those skills to anyone who sincerely wants to learn them.

From a collapse/survival standpoint, I can't imagine anything more handy than Inner Vision (known by the military as Remote Viewing). It is not hard to learn, but it takes practice to sharpen that skill. These skills can save your life someday. While there is still time, take a class in native awareness and philosophy, shamanic technologies, whatever you can find in your area. Imagine if you could see trouble coming before your physical senses perceive it. Even knowing bird language is arming yourself with an incredible skill--birds are the alarm system of the world, and if you know how to interpret their actions and sounds, you can see what is coming, from what direction, how big it is, how fast it's moving, and more. But the OBE thing, that's super handy!

Highly recommend this to everyone.
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I used to do this all the time until I was about 20 or so. It started off quite accidentally and eventually I found that I could control it after awhile. The last time I was out, I had a very bad experience so I think I've suppressed my ability to do it. I haven't tried in the last 10 years. Sometimes I still get that feeling that I can get out if I want. It's hard to explain to those who haven't 'been out', but there's a 'sweet spot'- a weird time between being asleep and awake where you are able and aware that you can leave. Thanks OP for starting this thread as I never have the opportunity to talk about this.
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Yes I know what you mean.

I was lucky enough to have a a series of spontaneous OBE's in 95 which at first scared the hell out of me. Since then the experiences aren't as crystal clear because generally I can't see, but in 95 I could see clearly. Now my experiences are more tactile or auditory. I never induce these, they are always spontaneous.

I frequently have contact during this time from other entities, some nice some not. I have a pretty big fear about this and I think it hinders my ability to see. I get poked in the side or the back alot, and I don't know what this is...it is a tickling feeling that is almost unbearable....I have looked on the net elsewhere and haven't been able to find anyone who can relate to this.

Anyone interested in reading more, I found Robert Monroe's work fascinating

[link to www.monroeinstitute.org]
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might give this ago , but doesnt god warn us to not mess with the occult ... your opening yourself up to attack , from entities you cant comprehend
" Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ...
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So what's the worst thing that could happen?
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you can't be disconnected, you cant be physically harmed. the only damage that can be done is mental or emotional damage. the astral realms are reflections of your intentions, meaning you can fly, transport to places you think about, manifest anything... but in the same respect, your fears or insecurities can be magnified. many spiritual leaders have visited astral realms to face their fears and become a more compassionate, humbled person. the worst thing that could happen would be if someone who was highly neurotic, mentally damaged and ignorant to themselves happened to project, and disturb the shit out of themselves. maybe deny all spiritual matters forever because of misunderstandings or an unwillingness to face themselves.
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yes. before i buzz off, i'd like to say to those who have been frightened by astral stuff, or felt a presence...

if you truly cannot overcome your fear, you should not project. it's just not for you, you've got other fish to fry, at least for now. it really takes some courage, a pure heart and mind, and grit to project. it's unknown, the biggest fear of all. it's strange and "too real". try it- odds are you won't project- you'll feel that loud buzz and stop or get freaked out.

i just want to say, if you are afraid, you will create your own monsters in this realm. you will be met with challenge and your emotions will be tested- the moment you fear, or panic, snap! you're awake. not an easy road to travel, but no one ever said things this grand would be easy to attain.

if you can get past the fear of unknown, the fear of religious doctrine, the fear of blah blah blah... get to it already! it may take a while to understand and practice, but shit, it's worth the effort1
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I agree 100%....a person should work on themselves(beliefs) before entering this..A mentor is even better...we should always work on ourselves to become a more loving person...when we take our last breath we will create our existence in the next dimension based on our beliefs...people need to quit thinking that everything will be handed to them like our Goverment hand outs.
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It is not necessary to go to such lengths...
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Here's another method if anyone's interested: [link to www.666blacksun.com]
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might give this ago , but doesnt god warn us to not mess with the occult ... your opening yourself up to attack , from entities you cant comprehend
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Open yourself to God dude....nothing else
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I think this is a possibility, but for the vast majority of people it's simply consciously falling asleep into a dream state. Since you are aware, you are lucid dreaming. Look it up if you're not familiar with it. This is what's happening. You are in a dream that feels real because you are fully aware and in control of your surroundings. Have you ever been in a dream, and all of a sudden realized you were dreaming? Even though you knew you were dreaming, it feels as if you are in the real world. Then you wished to be awake, and you immediately woke up? That's not to say you can't have psychic experiences while dreaming... The point is, at least for most people, your spirit does not leave the body.
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might give this ago , but doesnt god warn us to not mess with the occult ... your opening yourself up to attack , from entities you cant comprehend
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The aliens don't want us to have occult powers because that would mean we could challenge them. That's what programs like Christianity and Islam are for, see my sig for details.
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might give this ago , but doesnt god warn us to not mess with the occult ... your opening yourself up to attack , from entities you cant comprehend
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this has nothing to do with the occult. it is as old as time and has been a sister to sleep since our species began. it is associated with occult practices all over the world, however astral projection, meditation, and other inner journeying is beyond label. the Bible is ripe with references to these things, though most ignore them. it is as natural to us as taste, but as foreign to us as how our brain works.
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I think this is a possibility, but for the vast majority of people it's simply consciously falling asleep into a dream state. Since you are aware, you are lucid dreaming. Look it up if you're not familiar with it. This is what's happening. You are in a dream that feels real because you are fully aware and in control of your surroundings. Have you ever been in a dream, and all of a sudden realized you were dreaming? Even though you knew you were dreaming, it feels as if you are in the real world. Then you wished to be awake, and you immediately woke up? That's not to say you can't have psychic experiences while dreaming... The point is, at least for most people, your spirit does not leave the body.
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No you really can leave your body. We have souls. I've verified this 100%.
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Sounds like this might come in handy.
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hahah many people are saying, "but that's just a dream!"

i wish they could understand the strange feeling of quiet tranquility as you try to keep from waking your body up, sometimes failing to do so, while your light body squeezes out with a pop, all the while your head is overcome with an intense buzz!

ha, dreaming. i know what dreams are!
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Also, in response to all this stuff about it being demonic or opening yourself up to all kinds of badness -- THAT is why I say, learn it properly.

Probably tinkering around with this without being properly trained in the shamanic skills by a qualified person (someone who has been taught directly by a native elder, or in an unbroken line of teachers that began with a native elder) is like having a chemistry set and not knowing what happens when you mix chemical A with chemical B and stir...you could end up with a mess, it's true.

So don't just screw around with it. Get some real training. It is not so difficult to learn, but may as well learn it right, from people with thousands of years of experience. If you're in North America, I'd say learn from indigenous peoples of this continent. If you're in Asia, there are Asian traditions for this. Same with Australia, India, Africa, Europe, and South America. Learn from the peoples who have inhabited the land where you live now. They have been working with these energies on this land for a long time.

It's like, if you want to learn how to pilot a helicopter, who would you rather learn from? A youtube video, a random GLP-er, or a trained pilot with years of experience flying and training other pilots? Enough said.
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My own personal experiences were totally involuntary. It went like this:

After lunch, I went to bed and dozed off. Day after day, the same thing happened, namely I started to wake up, became fully conscious, but couldn't open my eyes, yet I was touching the window some 10 feet away. I was looking out of the window,yet couldn't open my eyes.
When I eventually did, I was still on the bed. In these experiences, I explored the bedroom with my eyes shut, but never caught myself doing it.
I was about 40 when this happened. Today, nothing.

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Can you prove that it is a sin?




In Ecclesiastes Soloman describes death.

Ecclesiastes 12

6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed...

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


Keep playing around,
and you may find yourself
standing before Jesus.
I hope you are ready for that.

BTW this is a sin.
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1.Lay on a bed and don't move.
2.Close your eyes.
3.Make sure there is no sound around you and no one
disturbing you.
4.Think about you detaching your spirit from your body.
5.Think that your body is only a physical object and
you are the spirit.

 Quoting: MasterMaster


Somewhere between 3 and 4 I always fall asleep....
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6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Now you're dead.


Or this:
6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Watch demons enter empty dwelling left by you.
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You've reminded me to try this again OP. I've been trying to get out of body for years.. since I was still in high school and first read Robert Monroe's Far Journeys. I've felt like I have been close a few times, but that's it just close.

It's odd because I had forgotten all about OBE's and Astral Projection and all that jazz for quite a few years, and then a couple of months ago I found a meditation mp3 online that claimed to assist in the process. It sort of worked! For the first time ever I had the very distinct sensation of "vibrations" that a lot of the literature talks about.

A sort of electrical pulsing up and down my body, quite strong and undoubtedly what they were all talking about. At the same time there was deepening spinning sensation, as if I were rotating horizontally from my navel, the sensation grew stronger and as I recognised what was happening I of course immediately came back to full conciousness and it was over.

But I was grinning in the dark, I was so happy that I had actually made some progress after so many years.

Your post has inspired me to give it another shot, thanks!
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Also, in response to all this stuff about it being demonic or opening yourself up to all kinds of badness -- THAT is why I say, learn it properly.

Probably tinkering around with this without being properly trained in the shamanic skills by a qualified person (someone who has been taught directly by a native elder, or in an unbroken line of teachers that began with a native elder) is like having a chemistry set and not knowing what happens when you mix chemical A with chemical B and stir...you could end up with a mess, it's true.

So don't just screw around with it. Get some real training. It is not so difficult to learn, but may as well learn it right, from people with thousands of years of experience. If you're in North America, I'd say learn from indigenous peoples of this continent. If you're in Asia, there are Asian traditions for this. Same with Australia, India, Africa, Europe, and South America. Learn from the peoples who have inhabited the land where you live now. They have been working with these energies on this land for a long time.

It's like, if you want to learn how to pilot a helicopter, who would you rather learn from? A youtube video, a random GLP-er, or a trained pilot with years of experience flying and training other pilots? Enough said.
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i agree! however, i do not agree because i think everyone needs training (astral projection is very natural once you understand the dynamics) as most people do not have access to local groups or mentors. i agree because i think these lessons and training gives one a perspective almost essential for projection, or a spiritual journey in the flesh- stripping away ego, understanding principles of the universe, the beauty/importance/divinity of LOVE... etc, etc... but yes, while it is nice to see so many with an interest, i do think its important to stress that this isn't really child's play- it can seriously mindfuck someone who isn't mentally prepared to be staring down at themselves sleeping.
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1.Lay on a bed and don't move.
2.Close your eyes.
3.Make sure there is no sound around you and no one
disturbing you.
4.Think about you detaching your spirit from your body.
5.Think that your body is only a physical object and
you are the spirit.

 Quoting: MasterMaster


Somewhere between 3 and 4 I always fall asleep....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904928


try meditating daily for at least 20-30 minutes.
practice imagining a flame flickering, or perhaps focus on the feeling of your breath around your nostrils.

having a single thought to focus in on can help continue your consciousness. you'll start to feel your body go numb, thats a good sign! from there on, it gets difficult, but try to just get to the point where you're numb all over (body's asleep) but you're conscious and thinking about a flame (or your breath). nothing that excites you or would wake your body up. this can be difficult but it honestly just takes practice.
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6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Now you're dead.


Or this:
6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Watch demons enter empty dwelling left by you.
 Quoting: Trbl Ivan



PFFBBBTTT
troll on, troll on
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might give this ago , but doesnt god warn us to not mess with the occult ... your opening yourself up to attack , from entities you cant comprehend
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this has nothing to do with the occult. it is as old as time and has been a sister to sleep since our species began. it is associated with occult practices all over the world, however astral projection, meditation, and other inner journeying is beyond label. the Bible is ripe with references to these things, though most ignore them. it is as natural to us as taste, but as foreign to us as how our brain works.
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Well said.
hf
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Can you prove that it is a sin?




In Ecclesiastes Soloman describes death.

Ecclesiastes 12

6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed...

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


Keep playing around,
and you may find yourself
standing before Jesus.
I hope you are ready for that.

BTW this is a sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486641

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668413


Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.


"The original Greek word for sorcerer is pharmakeus
which means "an enchanter with drugs."
This, in turn, comes from the word pharmakeia
from which we get our modern English word pharmacy.
The word in its original Greek means the occult,
sorcery, witchcraft, illicit pharmaceuticals,
trance, and magical incantation with drugs.

Why does God condemn those that practice these
forbidden arts?
To find the answer to this question
we must return to the Word of God. 1 Samuel 15:23
says that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
Why does God equate the sin of witchcraft with
the sin of rebellion? After all it is not murder or rape. To learn why, we must look at what witchcraft entails.
It does not matter what you call it, witchcraft,
sorcery, necromancy, tarot reading, horoscopes,
ouija boards or any one of a hundred other names, witchcraft is rebellion and therefore is a sin
against God. The purpose of any one of these
forbidden practices is to seek knowledge over and above
that which is allowed by God, whether it be to foretell
the future, to have power over others or to control
things that belong to God."

[link to www.intothelight.org]
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something I ran across recently.
I used to do this years ago but gave up at some point in frustration.

but since i'm doing spice voyages it has somehow come back to me. IMO OOBEs are very close to experiences on DMT.



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Typical christian reaction is to perceive anything resembling authentic spiritual experience with deep fear.
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Typical christian reaction is to perceive anything resembling authentic spiritual experience with deep fear.
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