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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904928 United States 07/29/2011 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1.Lay on a bed and don't move. Quoting: MasterMaster2.Close your eyes. 3.Make sure there is no sound around you and no one disturbing you. 4.Think about you detaching your spirit from your body. 5.Think that your body is only a physical object and you are the spirit. Somewhere between 3 and 4 I always fall asleep.... try meditating daily for at least 20-30 minutes. practice imagining a flame flickering, or perhaps focus on the feeling of your breath around your nostrils. having a single thought to focus in on can help continue your consciousness. you'll start to feel your body go numb, thats a good sign! from there on, it gets difficult, but try to just get to the point where you're numb all over (body's asleep) but you're conscious and thinking about a flame (or your breath). nothing that excites you or would wake your body up. this can be difficult but it honestly just takes practice. Thanks for the good tips. Now I need to find 20-30 minutes a day. I barely have time to take a shit as it is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1473858 United States 07/29/2011 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you prove that it is a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668413In Ecclesiastes Soloman describes death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486641Ecclesiastes 12 6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed... 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Keep playing around, and you may find yourself standing before Jesus. I hope you are ready for that. BTW this is a sin. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. "The original Greek word for sorcerer is pharmakeus which means "an enchanter with drugs." This, in turn, comes from the word pharmakeia from which we get our modern English word pharmacy. The word in its original Greek means the occult, sorcery, witchcraft, illicit pharmaceuticals, trance, and magical incantation with drugs. Why does God condemn those that practice these forbidden arts? To find the answer to this question we must return to the Word of God. 1 Samuel 15:23 says that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. Why does God equate the sin of witchcraft with the sin of rebellion? After all it is not murder or rape. To learn why, we must look at what witchcraft entails. It does not matter what you call it, witchcraft, sorcery, necromancy, tarot reading, horoscopes, ouija boards or any one of a hundred other names, witchcraft is rebellion and therefore is a sin against God. The purpose of any one of these forbidden practices is to seek knowledge over and above that which is allowed by God, whether it be to foretell the future, to have power over others or to control things that belong to God." [link to www.intothelight.org] Only one problem here, I don't believe the bible. I believe that religions are made to limit our spiritual growth. I think I have projected although when you have 2 small kids it's hard to find the time to get un-interrupted concentration to do it. I have meditated to the point where my body vibrates/goes numb. The 2 times I have been able to do it, it's almost beyond explanation. All sense are combined into one. Sight,smell, hearing etc. You just "feel" everything. To the naysayers who claim it's all in your head, well whenever modern science comes across something they can't explain they always want to slap a rational explanation to it. It doesn't mean they are right. Some things you have to experience yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309492 Australia 07/29/2011 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the good tips. Now I need to find 20-30 minutes a day. I barely have time to take a shit as it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904928I know what you mean! Although somehow I find myself on here right now haha. There have been times where I have made an effort to mediate for 15mins twice a day, and it makes a huge difference to your state of mind. Much calmer, centred, but then the practice slips and my discipline goes out the window. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487298 United States 07/29/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, in response to all this stuff about it being demonic or opening yourself up to all kinds of badness -- THAT is why I say, learn it properly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487298Probably tinkering around with this without being properly trained in the shamanic skills by a qualified person (someone who has been taught directly by a native elder, or in an unbroken line of teachers that began with a native elder) is like having a chemistry set and not knowing what happens when you mix chemical A with chemical B and stir...you could end up with a mess, it's true. So don't just screw around with it. Get some real training. It is not so difficult to learn, but may as well learn it right, from people with thousands of years of experience. If you're in North America, I'd say learn from indigenous peoples of this continent. If you're in Asia, there are Asian traditions for this. Same with Australia, India, Africa, Europe, and South America. Learn from the peoples who have inhabited the land where you live now. They have been working with these energies on this land for a long time. It's like, if you want to learn how to pilot a helicopter, who would you rather learn from? A youtube video, a random GLP-er, or a trained pilot with years of experience flying and training other pilots? Enough said. i agree! however, i do not agree because i think everyone needs training (astral projection is very natural once you understand the dynamics) as most people do not have access to local groups or mentors. i agree because i think these lessons and training gives one a perspective almost essential for projection, or a spiritual journey in the flesh- stripping away ego, understanding principles of the universe, the beauty/importance/divinity of LOVE... etc, etc... but yes, while it is nice to see so many with an interest, i do think its important to stress that this isn't really child's play- it can seriously mindfuck someone who isn't mentally prepared to be staring down at themselves sleeping. well, i just posted a list of dozens of schools. [link to www.survivalistbooks.com] i had to travel hundreds of miles to get training in this. but it was worth it, and i'm definitely going back for more, also trying to work out a way for a trainer to come to near where i live and do a workshop for people in my area. it is not impossible to get training. or just go to the nearest reservation and try to see if there are any elders there who might agree to train you! think outside the box. use your intuition. not that it's bad to practice and try things on your own. but it will take a lot longer to learn things that way. like if you had some earth, and some seeds, and some water, and you knew that planting seeds makes food--and you had to figure out agriculture on your own. sure, you could grow some plants. but it might be nice if there were an agriculture college nearby. for anyone interested in a wonderful book, check out "The Fifth Sacred Thing" by Starhawk. There is a lot of this stuff in there, mainly around healing. I laugh in the face of anyone who thinks witchcraft is inherently evil. What do these people think Jesus used to heal people? I don't recall a stethoscope around his neck in any of the drawings... did he not say that EVEN GREATER THINGS THAN I DO, we will do? Did he not say RAISE THE DEAD, even? Oooh, creepy! Or not! The tools of the patriarchy (violence and fear) have kept us under control for far too long. Wake up! There is a better tool kit, and it starts with this stuff and goes farther than our stunted imaginations are even probably guessing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486641 United States 07/29/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you prove that it is a sin? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668413In Ecclesiastes Soloman describes death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486641Ecclesiastes 12 6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed... 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Keep playing around, and you may find yourself standing before Jesus. I hope you are ready for that. BTW this is a sin. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. "The original Greek word for sorcerer is pharmakeus which means "an enchanter with drugs." This, in turn, comes from the word pharmakeia from which we get our modern English word pharmacy. The word in its original Greek means the occult, sorcery, witchcraft, illicit pharmaceuticals, trance, and magical incantation with drugs. Why does God condemn those that practice these forbidden arts? To find the answer to this question we must return to the Word of God. 1 Samuel 15:23 says that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. Why does God equate the sin of witchcraft with the sin of rebellion? After all it is not murder or rape. To learn why, we must look at what witchcraft entails. It does not matter what you call it, witchcraft, sorcery, necromancy, tarot reading, horoscopes, ouija boards or any one of a hundred other names, witchcraft is rebellion and therefore is a sin against God. The purpose of any one of these forbidden practices is to seek knowledge over and above that which is allowed by God, whether it be to foretell the future, to have power over others or to control things that belong to God." [link to www.intothelight.org] Only one problem here, I don't believe the bible. I believe that religions are made to limit our spiritual growth. I think I have projected although when you have 2 small kids it's hard to find the time to get un-interrupted concentration to do it. I have meditated to the point where my body vibrates/goes numb. The 2 times I have been able to do it, it's almost beyond explanation. All sense are combined into one. Sight,smell, hearing etc. You just "feel" everything. To the naysayers who claim it's all in your head, well whenever modern science comes across something they can't explain they always want to slap a rational explanation to it. It doesn't mean they are right. Some things you have to experience yourself. If you don't believe in the Word of God, your eternal future will be in the Lake of Fire, so if that's what you want, God wont stand in your way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309492 Australia 07/29/2011 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the naysayers who claim it's all in your head, well whenever modern science comes across something they can't explain they always want to slap a rational explanation to it. It doesn't mean they are right. Some things you have to experience yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473858Yeah I think this is an important point. Science doesn't need to be the enemy, just recognise that Science seeks to apply reason to the world as we see it. However we can't measure, probe and count everything. Some things are beyond the physical, outside of the mandate of Science. Not a conflict, just a different realm of experience. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487298 United States 07/29/2011 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That said you can be attacked by Greys and Reptilians and such if you advance too far in the powers of the mind. Humans having occult power is extremely threatening to them. If you make a commitment to Enki though he will protect you as you advance. Quoting: The GoatmanI am not making any commitments to "Enki" or anyone else for "protection". My intuition tells me that is NOT a good idea. One woman's opinion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309492 Australia 07/29/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no eternal fire. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487077Which father would send his kids into fire? And not just fire but eternal fire? But he loves them?? And also "the word of god" is just a book. They won't listen. Too much invested in their world view to question it now. That's the problem when you stop thinking for yourself, you don't examine what makes sense any more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023938 United States 07/29/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | watchmenonthewall, I know this thread goes against your beliefs (not hard to see) but do not confuse dreaming with astral projection. lucid dreaming is sort of similar but dreaming is a whole different ball game. astral is entirely conscious- the trick is to stay awake longer than your body. by description this may sound like a dream, but in practice and experience there is a whole world of difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1460447You are delusional. There is no such thing, and you would be wise to stop teaching such new age crap, because that's all it is. You will answer one day for misleading people. Someone posted here somewhere that "Christians are pumping fear". No, they are not pumping fear. They are pumping the truth. You people however are pumping new age lies and false doctrines as you as well have been mislead in the past yourselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023938 United States 07/29/2011 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck with that... You'll learn the hard way that IF you come back to your body, you might not be the only soul in it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768075Nicely said. Maybe even with legions of demons overtaking you completely. It does, and has happened many times to others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023938 United States 07/29/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no eternal fire. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487077Which father would send his kids into fire? And not just fire but eternal fire? But he loves them?? And also "the word of god" is just a book. Enjoy your life now while you're alive because you won't be enjoying the next! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309492 Australia 07/29/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck with that... You'll learn the hard way that IF you come back to your body, you might not be the only soul in it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 768075Nicely said. Maybe even with legions of demons overtaking you completely. It does, and has happened many times to others. I do love the heavy metal imagery in fundy christianity, LEGIONS OF DEMONS.. good name for a band that. |
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godsaveme User ID: 1486203 United Kingdom 07/29/2011 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When i was 14 in school , they brought his woman , in , i have no idea as to why , but anyway , she got the whole class , to think of the sky , your body etc ... started talking for ages , it was a very wierd experience , like some sort of meditation , she said keep doing this at home it will teach you to relax ... anyhow a few years later and i had no fricking idea how this would happen but i woudl go into a trance , and come out of it sat in a cross legged position and it would seem like id been like that for 5 minute , but when i went down stairs to check the time , it was like 3 hours later and dark ... it happened about 3 times to me ,... that woman was a fricking witch or sumut ... was my a hole rimmed by greys , i dont know , but something wasnt right with me , after she did this to the class.. wtf did the school bring her in in the first place ? " Are you really worthy enough to enter " or are you kidding yourself ... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 07/29/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an excellent way to start. Good post OP. The problem most people are going to have, is that once the experience begins happening, you end up getting all excited and it will collapse the experience. Try and remain calm (though you won't be able to the first few times you get so far), and just go with it. Good times! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487298 United States 07/29/2011 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I CAN WARN YOU AGAINST THIS NOW FOR REAL .... Quoting: godsavemeWhen i was 14 in school , they brought his woman , in , i have no idea as to why , but anyway , she got the whole class , to think of the sky , your body etc ... started talking for ages , it was a very wierd experience , like some sort of meditation , she said keep doing this at home it will teach you to relax ... anyhow a few years later and i had no fricking idea how this would happen but i woudl go into a trance , and come out of it sat in a cross legged position and it would seem like id been like that for 5 minute , but when i went down stairs to check the time , it was like 3 hours later and dark ... it happened about 3 times to me ,... that woman was a fricking witch or sumut ... was my a hole rimmed by greys , i dont know , but something wasnt right with me , after she did this to the class.. wtf did the school bring her in in the first place ? sounds like post-hypnotic suggestions to me. that stuff is used more than we realize. not to mention subliminal stuff on television, but i digress... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487363 United Kingdom 07/29/2011 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what's your diet like? because i've been trying to do this for a while and i think it has something to do with it. Quoting: (-soma-)I don't really have any diet, I eat anything :P Prove you can astral project you body? Just because you believe you do it, doesn't mean you are. Proof required. I am sure someone can devise something |
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