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*HOW TO GET OUT OF YOUR BODY AT ANY TIME*

 
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1.Lay on a bed and don't move.
2.Close your eyes.
3.Make sure there is no sound around you and no one
disturbing you.
4.Think about you detaching your spirit from your body.
5.Think that your body is only a physical object and
you are the spirit.

BE RELAXED! Don't MOVE. Don't FORCE ANYTHING.
DO EVERYTHING MENTALLY.

6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Now think about you getting out of your body.
Stay in this state for quite a long time.
After doing this for atleast one month, once every week. You will be able to get out easily after. It might take more time in the beginning depending on your spirit state.

13.You got out of your body. Now what? Always plan your trip before going out of your body next time.


Here's a list of stuff you can do:

1.See what your friends are doing.
All you need to do is think about a friend
you will directly be teleported to them.


2.Explore the earth and the universe
Yes, you can explore the earth and other planets and universes.
Make sure you don't go too far, I will explain why later.

3.See different versions of yourself in different parrarel universes.
Not sure if you can access information about how
your different versions became what they are now...But you can still see what they became and maybe even how they became that.

You can even do more things...I am not sure of everything you can do..I haven't practiced enough yet.


Now, How to get back to your body?
Simple, Just get back...Think about your body...Think about
yourself in the physical world.

There is a cord attached to your spirit and your body.
This cord is to make sure that you don't have to find
your body by yourself to get back to it in case you explore other universes.
This cord can extend infinitly.


Cord Description:
1.Prevent other entities from entering your body.
Because this body is linked to your spirit.
2.Send information to the spirit and Receive information from the spirit.
3.Make sure you never get lost.

Don't be scared about not going back into your body.
Only people who don't know about this don't know how to get back. As I said, don't go to far in the beginning. Start praticing and with time, You will be able to do everything without worying.

Have fun!
 Quoting: MasterMaster


op=fail

there's much easier way

suicide
out
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1.Lay on a bed and don't move.
2.Close your eyes.
3.Make sure there is no sound around you and no one
disturbing you.
4.Think about you detaching your spirit from your body.
5.Think that your body is only a physical object and
you are the spirit.

BE RELAXED! Don't MOVE. Don't FORCE ANYTHING.
DO EVERYTHING MENTALLY.

6.Start detaching your toes.
7.Start detaching your hands.
8.Start detaching your head.
8.You will start feeling numb. You won't feel your body
anymore after a while.

9.Don't get out of this state...keep trying to detach yourself.

10.Think about you being ready to detach from your body.
11.Think about you looking at your body from above 5-10 feets.

12.Now think about you getting out of your body.
Stay in this state for quite a long time.
After doing this for atleast one month, once every week. You will be able to get out easily after. It might take more time in the beginning depending on your spirit state.

13.You got out of your body. Now what? Always plan your trip before going out of your body next time.


Here's a list of stuff you can do:

1.See what your friends are doing.
All you need to do is think about a friend
you will directly be teleported to them.


2.Explore the earth and the universe
Yes, you can explore the earth and other planets and universes.
Make sure you don't go too far, I will explain why later.

3.See different versions of yourself in different parrarel universes.
Not sure if you can access information about how
your different versions became what they are now...But you can still see what they became and maybe even how they became that.

You can even do more things...I am not sure of everything you can do..I haven't practiced enough yet.


Now, How to get back to your body?
Simple, Just get back...Think about your body...Think about
yourself in the physical world.

There is a cord attached to your spirit and your body.
This cord is to make sure that you don't have to find
your body by yourself to get back to it in case you explore other universes.
This cord can extend infinitly.


Cord Description:
1.Prevent other entities from entering your body.
Because this body is linked to your spirit.
2.Send information to the spirit and Receive information from the spirit.
3.Make sure you never get lost.

Don't be scared about not going back into your body.
Only people who don't know about this don't know how to get back. As I said, don't go to far in the beginning. Start praticing and with time, You will be able to do everything without worying.

Have fun!
 Quoting: MasterMaster


op=fail

there's much easier way

suicide
out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1065356


Only if you never want to come back into your body.
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07/29/2011 05:19 PM
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one of the side effects of effexor (anti depressant) is lucid dreaming. i do it every night and have been on effexor for a few years now. i can control some aspecys of the dreaming and even create things out of sheer will. however i cant seem to get enough control to return to my physical reality and lauch on oobe.

i jave tried off and on to have a controlled out of body experience for about 15 years now but cant seem to do it.
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if your sensing things as you leave this "universe" then your not leaving the universe at all but extending into a future timline which is circular in existence.

Picture a clock face.

There's "universe" 1 then "universe" 2 on and on.

But the clock is contained within a circular existence.
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How come everytime I try and do something like this I panic I wont be able to get back into my body and ruin everything.
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Astral travel. :)
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Can you prove that it is a sin?




In Ecclesiastes Soloman describes death.

Ecclesiastes 12

6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed...

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


Keep playing around,
and you may find yourself
standing before Jesus.
I hope you are ready for that.

BTW this is a sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486641

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 668413


Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.


"The original Greek word for sorcerer is pharmakeus
which means "an enchanter with drugs."
This, in turn, comes from the word pharmakeia
from which we get our modern English word pharmacy.
The word in its original Greek means the occult,
sorcery, witchcraft, illicit pharmaceuticals,
trance, and magical incantation with drugs.

Why does God condemn those that practice these
forbidden arts?
To find the answer to this question
we must return to the Word of God. 1 Samuel 15:23
says that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
Why does God equate the sin of witchcraft with
the sin of rebellion? After all it is not murder or rape. To learn why, we must look at what witchcraft entails.
It does not matter what you call it, witchcraft,
sorcery, necromancy, tarot reading, horoscopes,
ouija boards or any one of a hundred other names, witchcraft is rebellion and therefore is a sin
against God. The purpose of any one of these
forbidden practices is to seek knowledge over and above
that which is allowed by God, whether it be to foretell
the future, to have power over others or to control
things that belong to God."

[link to www.intothelight.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486641


A better question is where God specifically says in HIS word that this is an act of sorcery or witchcraft.

You simply assume it is an act of sorcery, then reference sorcery as being damnable from the bible.

That's awfully dishonest of you.

Where does the bible specifically say "thou shalt not detach thyself from thy body."?

I'll bet you have no answer for that. I've read the entire thing in depth.
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So what's the worst thing that could happen?
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The experience blows your concept of reality...A God high...an awakening....Born again by Christian standards..however you want to put it...You will have to restart your whole life because you saw the truth...tis not an easy path afterwards. Both a blessing and a curse but worth it in the long run..
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Opening yourself up to demonic possession has got nothing to do with being born again.
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I never went past the earth. I am still practicing. I never went farther than canada yet.
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I assume if you go to the US this way, you still get groped by the TSA?

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@MASTERMASTER
Is it usual for you to return with your hands and feet asleep?
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This thread as actually freaked me out abit.

As a young lad and now im 40 .....i have had experiences where ive been asleep yet felt that i am awake inside but cannot move my body and usually end up stressing and willing myself to wake.......many time relieved when i do.
There was one time not so long ago and i told my other half about this that i had the same experience again but i felt like i had someone by the side of me that i can only describe as being a black presence........which really put the shits up me when i eventually woke up.

Does this in anyway have anything to do with a possible obe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1221946


I used to have same experience... while in a state of being asleep but still awake at the same time and could not move body or even open my eye and the harder i try to move my body or open my eyes the harder it gets and i literaly felt like if someone squeezing my kidneys which gave a unbearable pain then i end up giving up fighting to get out of this state and just surrender ... the next thing that happened to me was frightening i felt me getting of my body and litarly could see myself laying on bed and thought that this was the end...lasted like 30 seconds and then i suddenly oppened my eyes. i used to have this at the age of 23 till 28,im 30 now ...sometimes i used to have it every night and i tried not to sleep cause of the pains.
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Watch out, something else could enter your body.....
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yep demons
 Quoting: BigDog10000000000000


Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their minds (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and can perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows stronger by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
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So here goes -- this is from an experience I had about seven years or so ago. My husband, to this day, thinks I was dreaming, but I know 100%, that I was not dreaming. Here goes...

This happened in June/July of 2004.

It was late at night, or very early morning when I felt this 'vise-like' grip encase my brain. I was paralyzed, though my 'brain' was sizzling with energy (on the outside, if that makes sense?) And I heard this voice (inside my head) - metallic& grating, like more than one voice, but not, and very deep (almost like the sound of the alien signal that Jodi Foster listens to in the movie Contact??) say:

"You will..." (and I think it was about to give me 'instructions')

And then at this time, like a flash, I thought - cripes, if only I can move, or wake my husband up, I would be able to break free!

So I calmly, though insistently, tried to force myself to speak my husband's name... three times, each time a little louder in my head - trying to force it to come out of my mouth... as in: michael.... Michael.... MICHAEL.

On the third time, the presence left me abruptly, and there was a sharp/staticky 'zap' to my head, and then my entire body felt like it was on fire or covered with red hot needles. This lasted for quite awhile -- a couple of minutes at least.

I was left feeling that the presence was a metallic / reptilian one, and I also know that on the third time I tried to say my husband's name, I woke, completely awake/aware and in control of my limbs (though they were on fire). I somehow knew that it wanted to tell me what to 'do' and that I would have to obey... and my first thought was what if it commanded me to kill my kids? I couldn't let that happen.

I was spooked, and it took me awhile to fall back asleep. I didn't wake my husband at that time but told him about it in the morning. He laughed it off, told me I was dreaming, and had been watching too many episodes of the X-files (I hadn't watched any, by the way).

-------------------
Comments? Was this the beginning of an OBE? What was the voice I heard? I was alarmed, but not panicky, during the whole episode... and I had been completely and totally asleep before the event took place. This was not an 'on the verge of sleep' experience.

But sometimes when I lay down I can feel the 'spiral' when I close my eyes. And other times I have been able to feel as if I am so big, bigger than the universe, and then I will collapse down, down, down and feel so small, tinier than the tiniest speck of sand. That happened alot in my early twenties, though not since then. But the spiral/swirl feeling happened again just a few days ago. (I have been meditating more because I am trying to be open to messages / visions from my guides. I was having them regularly earlier this year, and then in April they all but stopped.)
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Read the testimonies on this site (scroll to the bottom) [link to www.alienresistance.org]
Some of what you're saying might make sense after that.
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@MASTERMASTER
Is it usual for you to return with your hands and feet asleep?
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Watch out, something else could enter your body.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298063


yep demons
 Quoting: BigDog10000000000000


Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their thoughts (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Hahaha! Yeah, God forbid you get to know your own spirit. Let's see, how bout we scare you about demons and BS so you don't ever get to know your true self. God forbid that happens! The church would be out of business!

This is where people need to understand how incredible your soul is. You think your soul is weak? Interesting. It's the most powerful thing you've got. You think leaving your body makes your soul weaker? Interesting. I always thought it was the physical body that restrained your spirit from flying free and communing with angels. But you're saying the body protects you from the horrible effects of communing with the angelic. Oops, not angelic...I meant demonic. God and your angels won't help you if you start to explore your own soul? Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes. So why would they help an asshole.

Right?
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Watch out, something else could enter your body.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298063


yep demons
 Quoting: BigDog10000000000000


Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their thoughts (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Hahaha! Yeah, God forbid you get to know your own spirit. Let's see, how bout we scare you about demons and BS so you don't ever get to know your true self. God forbid that happens! The church would be out of business!

This is where people need to understand how incredible your soul is. You think your soul is weak? Interesting. It's the most powerful thing you've got. You think leaving your body makes your soul weaker? Interesting. I always thought it was the physical body that restrained your spirit from flying free and communing with angels. But you're saying the body protects you from the horrible effects of communing with the angelic. Oops, not angelic...I meant demonic. God and your angels won't help you if you start to explore your own soul? Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes. So why would they help an asshole.

Right?
 Quoting: SickScent


Body, soul and spirit are three different things that together make up your person.
Nowhere above did I say that my soul is weak. Nowhere above did I mention my soul. Nowhere above did I mention whether or not I go to church or what my personal, specific take on religion is. You obviously have issues with God that you need to solve because it's clear that you feel compelled to mock every post on here written by anyone who seems to exhibit a bit of faith. What riles you so much about God?
"Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes."
Look at the matrix around you and tell me that when left to his own (de)vices man doesn't sink to the lowest behaviour possible? We are by nature "assholes" as you put it. God helps us and directs us (and chides us, tries to correct us when we're wrong and he especially warns us about such things as mentioned in this thread) because he loves us. But it is free for every man to believe what he wants to believe so I will not argue with you about my belief but you're more than welcome to carry on mocking it as you see fit.

Goodnight all. As you were.
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yep demons
 Quoting: BigDog10000000000000


Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their thoughts (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Hahaha! Yeah, God forbid you get to know your own spirit. Let's see, how bout we scare you about demons and BS so you don't ever get to know your true self. God forbid that happens! The church would be out of business!

This is where people need to understand how incredible your soul is. You think your soul is weak? Interesting. It's the most powerful thing you've got. You think leaving your body makes your soul weaker? Interesting. I always thought it was the physical body that restrained your spirit from flying free and communing with angels. But you're saying the body protects you from the horrible effects of communing with the angelic. Oops, not angelic...I meant demonic. God and your angels won't help you if you start to explore your own soul? Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes. So why would they help an asshole.

Right?
 Quoting: SickScent


Body, soul and spirit are three different things that together make up your person.
Nowhere above did I say that my soul is weak. Nowhere above did I mention my soul. Nowhere above did I mention whether or not I go to church or what my personal, specific take on religion is. You obviously have issues with God that you need to solve because it's clear that you feel compelled to mock every post on here written by anyone who seems to exhibit a bit of faith. What riles you so much about God?
"Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes."
Look at the matrix around you and tell me that when left to his own (de)vices man doesn't sink to the lowest behaviour possible? We are by nature "assholes" as you put it. God helps us and directs us (and chides us, tries to correct us when we're wrong and he especially warns us about such things as mentioned in this thread) because he loves us. But it is free for every man to believe what he wants to believe so I will not argue with you about my belief but you're more than welcome to carry on mocking it as you see fit.

Goodnight all. As you were.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Yeah, your God loves us, but will send us to eternal damnation even if we live a good life, without committing a single sin.

Loving God you got there.

Remember, it is not GOD that you are referring to. It is your belief of God. If you've never traveled out of body, you will never understand. You will only have your belief.
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Yeah, your God loves us, but will send us to eternal damnation even if we live a good life, without committing a single sin.

Not true.

The problem is that only ONE person has lived a sinless life, Jesus Christ.

Read the Sermon on the Mount from the book of Matthew and you will see that God defines sin FAR differently than men do.
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Watch out, something else could enter your body.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298063


yep demons
 Quoting: BigDog10000000000000


Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their minds (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows stronger by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


so right...and well said!
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Exactly.

How exactly do people think that so-called Indian Yogis can accomplish feats such as levitation? Or how Buddhist monks and Qi-Gong masters have spent years emptying their thoughts (transcendental meditation) and denying their bodies in order to reach "nirvana" and perform things that are not natural to normal mortals? Because they are taught to build their "chi", which only grows by hoarding spirits (demons) into one's being.

Anyone who opens themselves up to this practise isn't just messing with their spirit. They are opening a portal and inviting spirits into their being.
It's the same as messing with a ouija board. People just don't anticipate that there are malevolent spirits behind the veil.

Be careful. It may be easy for you to get into this, but it's a nightmare getting back out and in the long run astral projection, channelling and all these practises enslave you. You can't live without them and they begin to take over your life. When you finally realise and want out, you're plagued by demons. Some people even develop multiple personalities and become depressed and suicidal. It's not worth it, trust me!
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Hahaha! Yeah, God forbid you get to know your own spirit. Let's see, how bout we scare you about demons and BS so you don't ever get to know your true self. God forbid that happens! The church would be out of business!

This is where people need to understand how incredible your soul is. You think your soul is weak? Interesting. It's the most powerful thing you've got. You think leaving your body makes your soul weaker? Interesting. I always thought it was the physical body that restrained your spirit from flying free and communing with angels. But you're saying the body protects you from the horrible effects of communing with the angelic. Oops, not angelic...I meant demonic. God and your angels won't help you if you start to explore your own soul? Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes. So why would they help an asshole.

Right?
 Quoting: SickScent


Body, soul and spirit are three different things that together make up your person.
Nowhere above did I say that my soul is weak. Nowhere above did I mention my soul. Nowhere above did I mention whether or not I go to church or what my personal, specific take on religion is. You obviously have issues with God that you need to solve because it's clear that you feel compelled to mock every post on here written by anyone who seems to exhibit a bit of faith. What riles you so much about God?
"Why not? Oh yeah, you think we were born in sin and are actually assholes."
Look at the matrix around you and tell me that when left to his own (de)vices man doesn't sink to the lowest behaviour possible? We are by nature "assholes" as you put it. God helps us and directs us (and chides us, tries to correct us when we're wrong and he especially warns us about such things as mentioned in this thread) because he loves us. But it is free for every man to believe what he wants to believe so I will not argue with you about my belief but you're more than welcome to carry on mocking it as you see fit.

Goodnight all. As you were.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


Yeah, your God loves us, but will send us to eternal damnation even if we live a good life, without committing a single sin.

Loving God you got there.

Remember, it is not GOD that you are referring to. It is your belief of God. If you've never traveled out of body, you will never understand. You will only have your belief.
 Quoting: SickScent


Seriously, people need to start coming up with a different argument really fast because this: "Yeah, your God loves us, but will send us to eternal damnation even if we live a good life, without committing a single sin. Loving God you got there" is starting to get old and it won't excuse you.

So you have never sinned a day in your life. Really? According to whose judgement? Yours as a man or God's?
God's standard is very different to our standard and it's difficult for men to try and wrap their heads around the glory of what it is to be God. To be omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent...it's too much for the human rationale to understand. We can't even understand the universe so how can we begin to understand God's perfect standard? We only understand our own flawed standard because the concept of an absolutely perfect God exceeds our capacity to understand what that entails.
In order to understand what God considers sin you have to try and look at yourself through the eyes of a God who is infinitely good, infinitely pure and infinitely perfect. Only this way can you realise just how imperfect we are and begin to be grateful in the knowledge that even in our imperfection God loves us, would like us to be perfect as he is and has provided a way for us to become so, so that we can be in his presence. God doesn't want anyone to die. He wants all to come to him but he can't force you to do so against your will.

I really have to be off now but wherever your life and your choices take you, I wish you all the best.
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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I've had this happen in a sense, but it was more sleep sex than a real out of body experience. Would have vivd thoughts and dreams of a scenario with my wife where the environment was all different than our bedroom, but when it was over the actions had really happened. Kinda like sleep walking but with sex involved. When your mind is in a spot that you are not contained by the laws of the physical work in your actions, your real life actions can become extraordinary. I think it's what happens at times you hear a person lift up a car of do something extra ordinary. They for a moment work in a way that is detached of physics by harnessing the energy of the their mind.

Imagine if we could harness this kind of energy on command....
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Me2!!!grinning
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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It really is. I wish people would understand how ridiculous it is for a good parent to tell their child they are sinners worthless without them and incapable of anything good on their own. Any parent that does that, is not doing it out of love, it's out of a desire for power and obedience. Nothing more. They seek to break you down, to where they have to rely on you, rather than grow on their own.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


And you'd be guilty of that one too.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
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And you'd be guilty of that one too.
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Ditto.
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


So, my assumption is that you never left your body. Have you? You claim that if you do, the demons will possess you. So, which is it? There is assumption, and there is logical reasoning in what you have written. Tell me where I have assumed, and that I have assumed wrongly.

I will never believe in a God, that sends good men, holy men, of peace and love, into eternal damnation, merely for the fact of not believing in said God. Gandhi, Buddha, and countless others.

Tell me, where has your God sent these incredible souls. Tell me, what happens when a young infant dies, without first being blessed in your waters. Tell me where your God sends them. Do not quote scripture, or fill your reply with platitudes. All I want to know, is where you think, where you believe your God sent them.
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


And you'd be guilty of that one too.
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Ditto.
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I think I know a bit more about God than you do. You get your information about God from a book. I on the other hand use common sense. You are so brainwashed you can't even see it.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Yeah... It might be a sin if it is considered sorcery. Is this a form of sorcery/witchcraft?
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I am SO GLAD that I'm not constantly walking on "thin ice" wondering if I'm doing something unacceptable. Man, you sectarians!
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Me too, I had guilt for so long over myself, not anymore. The only one I worry about, is me and whether I am happy myself with what I'm doing. No one else.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience. And, I'm sure you think everyone else is wrong, but your belief is right. Righteousness is a disease.
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"Again, you are speaking of your belief...not your experience."

Assumption is also a disease.
 Quoting: Copernicus Oblong


So, my assumption is that you never left your body. Have you? You claim that if you do, the demons will possess you. So, which is it. There is assumption, and there is logical reasoning in what you have written. Tell me where I have assumed, and that I have assumed wrongly.

I will never believe in a God, that sends good men, holy men, of piece and love, into eternal damnation, merely for the fact of not believing in said God. Gandhi, Buddha, and countless others.

Tell me, where has your God sent these incredible souls. Tell me, what happens when a young infant dies, without first being blessed in your waters. Tell me where your God sends them. Do not quote scripture, or fill your reply with platitudes. All I want to know, is where you think, where you believe your God sent them.
 Quoting: SickScent


Infants go to God.

As for Gandhi etc. that is between them and God.

Well, it's 2:30 in the morning here and I'm off (for the last time :)) to bed. It's been nice sparring with you.





GLP