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Message Subject *HOW TO GET OUT OF YOUR BODY AT ANY TIME*
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What I'm going to share is from my own personal experience and not intended to be good advice; rather, just sharing what is possible?

I've been out of body but not away from this current physical body. The inside self is me, actually all the identities I've ever been or will be are this inside me. Most of my OBEs have happened because of great trauma to my physical body. Suffice it to say that this has been an extremely difficult physical existence marked by 60+ years of physical and mental abuse by the outside forces of this current reality, and I've had an easy life compared to so many others that I've known and seen throughout this lifetime. This is not a reality that will be known as a friendly place to live and exist.

The most recent OBE was in 2004. I was in a hospital ICU under my 4th day of heavy sedation for a failed heart. The medical team was in the process of removing a pelvic heart pump from me and I became fully aware that they were cutting my upper legs where the large stitches were holding the pump in place. Extreme pain and I was trying to make them hear me but that wasn't working because they kept right on talking and didn't pay attention to me. So, I watched along with all the medical staff in that room as my inside body raised up out of my physical body and began to loudly curse all there who were in my hospital room. Each medical team member froze in place as this inside self pointed a finger in their face and told them that they had no mercy and they were all evil mf's for hurting me. And then this dark light form of a human body laid back down inside me and patted my cheek and consoled me as "we" went into a very loud screaming fit as the medical team quickly yanked out the pelvic pump. And then the lead doctor of the medical team got down on his knees and looked directly into my face and very emotionally spit out that I should be on my knees thanking god that I wasn't dead. After that, I was denied pain medication by the lead nurse who had witnessed this and my husband basically had to fire that entire medical team and insisted that the hospital provide a new team of personnel to oversee my care. Even with that, I had doctors that refused to care for me and some that agreed made the sign of the cross before entering my room and refused to touch me. I think there were many personnel who were convinced that I had demons inside me. I was assigned two male nurses that were Vietnam vets. They each told me independent of each other that they knew what had happened and told me not to worry because they were there to protect me. They told my husband that they had seen similar behavior from soldiers and others dying on the battlefield in Nam. For myself, I was glad to know that I wasn't unique with having an inside self that made physical appearances. I retell this to anyone who chooses to listen because I know that it's possible for anyone to have a similar experience of actually and visually seeing their inside self materialize in a physical form. All of it will force you to question your belief system. I think that most of humanity will be faced with their inside self at some point in our future. It's part of the knowing that comes with transmutation into another level of physical reality. I've never intentionally set out to disconnect my inside self from my physical body. I leave that decision up to my inside self. For now, "we" are trying to stay "here" to be a witness to the "change".
 Quoting: soulsurvivor


Why would the doctor say this? Was he threatening you?

And why deny you pain meds? Why would they be mad at you just because you were feeling pain and needed more meds?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1433617


I told my husband and son what had happened from my viewpoint. My husband had a difficult time in trying to speak with the lead doctor because he ran away down the hall everytime he saw my husband. So my husband stood behind the door of my room until the doctor came in on the morning rounds to check on me. My husband asked the doctor if he said that, yes or no. The doctor said yes he said that. My husband didn't care why he said it because for him there wasn't a good enough reason for the doctor to have said that to me at any point and time. It wasn't easy to accomplish but my husband and son finally got the doctor removed from my case and had another group of heart specialists assigned to me.

My son is a pharmacist and he was the one who spoke with the lead nurse. She denied that she told me I had to be a wealthy person to afford the good pain medication and I wasn't worthy of receiving pain medication. After checking the medication log, my son asked for the nursing supervisor and asked that the lead nurse be taken off my case, which was then taken into some type of staff meeting where the decision was made to assign the 2 male nurses to my care and remove the lead nurse from my case.

I'll say this in defense of both the lead doctor and the lead nurse. They were both faced with a situation that challenged their very core belief system in god. They both witnessed my inner self and their reaction was because of their own fear that my inner self was a demon. They weren't the only 2 in that room that witnessed my inner self materializing. I had medical staff throughout my stay that wouldn't enter my room without making the sign of the cross first. The 2 male nurses did alternate shifts to cover me during most of that time. I had one during the day and the other during the last shift at night. The supper shift was covered with a family member being allowed to stay. I was scared and I had a good reason to be fearful.

I was raised as a Southern Baptist and I no longer attend church or practice that faith as I don't, can't believe it anymore. But the hospital experience showed me that there are people who self-define themselves solely by their faith and system of beliefs to the point that they could hurt you and yet be able to justify that through their faith in god. It really is how this reality of war and god works, isn't it? It's a world where if you're judged to be different then maybe you're threatening and maybe deserve to be killed.
 
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