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AMERICANS HELP! BOEHNER BILL FAILED. REID BILL FAILS ON SATURDAY. DEFAULT NEXT WEEK. AM I RIGHT?

 
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Interesting thing is long term rates fell big time in Fridays trading. Slowing economy & deflation anyone?
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The Bernak shakes in his shoes at the word "deflation"

I smell ink.
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Im sure the goddamned assholes will pull a rabbit out of the hat before TSHTF.
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No they wont this time. This is all part of the coming changes and has to do with going back to abundance and sound currency. The current system has to fall first though.

It all ties in with Timewave Zero, Mayan predictions, Disclosure, Ascension, 2012 etc.

All paradigms and structures that can't handle this new higher vibration the Earth is bathed in are doomed to fail.

Don't fear though my friend.

Before great wonders comes great change.
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Re: AMERICANS HELP! BOEHNER BILL FAILED. REID BILL FAILS ON SATURDAY. DEFAULT NEXT WEEK. AM I RIGHT?
please help me.

As I understand things:

Boehner 's bill failed.


Reid 's bill is coming:

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

but it is doomed to fail in the House.

then :
Default coming next week.

Or a presidential grab of power to raise the debt limit unilaterally as the last trick in the hat.

Did i get it right?
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will he pull an exe order in the 11th hour is the question.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


stupid question -- he can't abrogate congress's powers by executive order -- can he? Can he?
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If emergency powers are declared, yes he can. Though in this case Congress isn't really getting anywhere...something along those lines (Obama forced to act unilaterally) may occur...I truly don't think that this country is going to let the pieces all fall...but Congress may force the President to act alone and then the Tea Party will probably try to impeach him for his actions.
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mods your opinion is welcome. you read lots of info every day.
what is your view .

pplease i always paste info here. i really need info on this one.

it looks like USA is heading to the monday opening session with no real solution.
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


Hi Mr. Shelford. Wish I could help you. Seems like it's down to guesses and opinions now.

If you really, really, need to know, there's a place that has some very intelligent people discussing many different financial topics, this one included. You may have been there. It's tickerforum dot com.

They've got some sharp people there. You have to pay to read some areas, or to post, but you can learn a lot just by hanging out and eavesdropping. Hope you get the info you need. hf
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Im sure the goddamned assholes will pull a rabbit out of the hat before TSHTF.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1439159


No they wont this time. This is all part of the coming changes and has to do with going back to abundance and sound currency. The current system has to fall first though.

It all ties in with Timewave Zero, Mayan predictions, Disclosure, Ascension, 2012 etc.

All paradigms and structures that can't handle this new higher vibration the Earth is bathed in are doomed to fail.

Don't fear though my friend.

Before great wonders comes great change.
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No, I have plans this week. They need to raise the debt ceiling. Just sayin.
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Interesting thing is long term rates fell big time in Fridays trading. Slowing economy & deflation anyone?
 Quoting: eagleman


The Bernak shakes in his shoes at the word "deflation"

I smell ink.
 Quoting: lionhound


^this

expect inflation and interest rate hikes

if you have loans or lines of credit indexed to prime or 'adjust', this means YOU

also everything will cost more. except you wont make more money.
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In less than 2 hrs. Time watch them pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat. Watch this one people!
 Quoting: eagleman


to clarify -- in two hours they vote on reid's package to prove it's dead and then what?
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yes , then what
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Default is imminent. That's what RP said....and he's right. If it doesn't happen next week, it will happen sooner or later.
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link where ron paul saying DEFAULT INMINENT.

or he means "in the long term , it is default"
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I saw some congressmen on the news earlier basically saying the August 2nd date is just an artificial deadline and that the government will still have money to keep paying bills at least for a while if the debt ceiling isn't raised.
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mmm

linky stinky?

maybe you are right. maybe they are just pushing things up
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mods your opinion is welcome. you read lots of info every day.
what is your view .

pplease i always paste info here. i really need info on this one.

it looks like USA is heading to the monday opening session with no real solution.
 Quoting: Strongman Shelford


Hi Mr. Shelford. Wish I could help you. Seems like it's down to guesses and opinions now.

If you really, really, need to know, there's a place that has some very intelligent people discussing many different financial topics, this one included. You may have been there. It's tickerforum dot com.

They've got some sharp people there. You have to pay to read some areas, or to post, but you can learn a lot just by hanging out and eavesdropping. Hope you get the info you need. hf
 Quoting: Nine's

ok tickerforum. i been there.
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Congress Heads Into Weekend Deadlocked on Debt Plan
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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Congress Heads Into Weekend Deadlocked on Debt Plan
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480300



QUICKLY go read on the WSJ site. Like I posted many hours ago just what RUSH said earlier today. It's up to McConnell & Reid. This was all theater & used for political cover so the politicians can tell their constitutions they did the right thing during election time! A deal will get done by Monday!
It's called tabling the bill!!
GOP's McConnell Likely Holds Key to Deal
[link to online.wsj.com]

[link to online.wsj.com]

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Default is imminent. That's what RP said....and he's right. If it doesn't happen next week, it will happen sooner or later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378480


link where ron paul saying DEFAULT INMINENT.

or he means "in the long term , it is default"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480300


I heard that interview. I've looked for it, but can't locate that exact link. He said that the US was already in default. But the big default could happen over a period of years.

Here is a link to his website. There are videos on the right hand side. There is an audio at the top with the transcript below.
[link to www.ronpaul.com]

Good article with Ron Paul's plan.
[link to www.wnd.com]
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hey people, ever been hovering over the toilet knowing you're gonna puke but just don't know exactly when? it gets to the point where you stick your finger down your throat and just get it over with...

well, here we are...let's get it over with

crash this fucking shit - and don't listen to any of the fuckers in DC afterward when they try to offer you solutions...their time is DONE
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Default appears to be what obama wants, as he believes, he can claim more power if America is further weakened and his “secret” plan will be like his obamacare and no one will benefit but more will awaken.
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it's bad theater to make obongo look like a genius
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Default appears to be what obama wants, as he believes, he can claim more power if America is further weakened and his “secret” plan will be like his obamacare and no one will benefit but more will awaken.
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i feel silverpatriot may be right. just saying
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Hey Strongman,

I'm here under a different name, but you may recall I made a bet with you last year that gold would trade under $1000 before year end. Well, I lost that badly, and I promised to return and eat my words, so here I am. My puts on GLD ended up worth a big fat zero (not quite as I hit a bid before 0 but close enough).

Anyway, congrats on the extended bull call. You have been pretty much spot on, although I still do not buy into the hyperinflation scenario, but maybe I just have too much confidence that someone in government will have the sanity to save us from that scenario.

As for these bills, even if nothing is passed, I don't think we default, as there is adequate cash for the next several weeks to pay all expenses that might otherwise qualify as a default. Personally, I would prefer a default, as it force an end to the Ponziconomy. Will be a disaster, but I would rather get it over with it. It's unavoidable, and if they kick the can down the road much more, your hyperinflation scenario becomes a very real possibility.

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Hey Strongman,

I'm here under a different name, but you may recall I made a bet with you last year that gold would trade under $1000 before year end. Well, I lost that badly, and I promised to return and eat my words, so here I am. My puts on GLD ended up worth a big fat zero (not quite as I hit a bid before 0 but close enough).

Anyway, congrats on the extended bull call. You have been pretty much spot on, although I still do not buy into the hyperinflation scenario, but maybe I just have too much confidence that someone in government will have the sanity to save us from that scenario.

As for these bills, even if nothing is passed, I don't think we default, as there is adequate cash for the next several weeks to pay all expenses that might otherwise qualify as a default. Personally, I would prefer a default, as it force an end to the Ponziconomy. Will be a disaster, but I would rather get it over with it. It's unavoidable, and if they kick the can down the road much more, your hyperinflation scenario becomes a very real possibility.
 Quoting: TyWebb


ok. I accept your words as a reinvindication of past warnings made by me.

The system is sick, yes. Everything is possible.

I hope we choose the path of evolution and we go for a shift in our awareness.
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Hey Strongman,

I'm here under a different name, but you may recall I made a bet with you last year that gold would trade under $1000 before year end. Well, I lost that badly, and I promised to return and eat my words, so here I am. My puts on GLD ended up worth a big fat zero (not quite as I hit a bid before 0 but close enough).

Anyway, congrats on the extended bull call. You have been pretty much spot on, although I still do not buy into the hyperinflation scenario, but maybe I just have too much confidence that someone in government will have the sanity to save us from that scenario.

As for these bills, even if nothing is passed, I don't think we default, as there is adequate cash for the next several weeks to pay all expenses that might otherwise qualify as a default. Personally, I would prefer a default, as it force an end to the Ponziconomy. Will be a disaster, but I would rather get it over with it. It's unavoidable, and if they kick the can down the road much more, your hyperinflation scenario becomes a very real possibility.
 Quoting: TyWebb


ok. I accept your words as a reinvindication of past warnings made by me.

The system is sick, yes. Everything is possible.

I hope we choose the path of evolution and we go for a shift in our awareness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480300



+1

hf
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Default is imminent. That's what RP said....and he's right. If it doesn't happen next week, it will happen sooner or later.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378480


link where ron paul saying DEFAULT INMINENT.

or he means "in the long term , it is default"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480300


strongman, here:

[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]

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