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Some dinosaur questions for Christians. | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485887 United States07/30/2011 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The original Hebrew grammar of Genesis 1:2 says something like "The earth *became* without form and void", implying a previous state or mode of unknown duration which was somehow ruined. It could have been the ancient nuculer wars mentioned in Hindu texts, or who knows what went on, or who was involved. It's not a wildly popular theory, though. Some folks are pretty attached to that 6,000-year-old-planet thing. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487966 United States07/30/2011 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The original Hebrew grammar of Genesis 1:2 says something like "The earth *became* without form and void", implying a previous state or mode of unknown duration which was somehow ruined. It could have been the ancient nuculer wars mentioned in Hindu texts, or who knows what went on, or who was involved. It's not a wildly popular theory, though. Some folks are pretty attached to that 6,000-year-old-planet thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485887this |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1323894 United States07/30/2011 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't let unanswered questions from this world's past hinder you from being saved. Repent and believe the Gospel, friend. Quoting: FidokrabYou mean like: Why would a loving god start a creation by adding horrible beasts that would terrorize his prize creations? |
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| RadiatedHighness User ID: 1482986 United States07/30/2011 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) As "god" created animals on the fifth day and man the next day - and they existed together in the Garden of Eden, how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? And why would god do that to them? Wouldn't he want to protect his first two human creations to insure their successful propagation?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238942) If Adam and Eve were people smart enough to understand and obey or disobey "god" and Christians think of them in modern terms as rational, aware people - then why is the evidence of prehistoric man, which must have post-dated Adam and Eve, point to creatures so primitive and undeveloped? (Oh, I'm sorry. this isn't a dinosaur question.) 3) How did Noah round up two of every dinosaur, especially the flying ones, without getting eaten?? And how did he get close enough to determine males from females? And how did he keep them from eating all the other animals? And what did he feed all the carnivorous animals if not other animals? 4) If the age of the earth is a scant 6,000 years then dinosaurs must have disappeared rather suddenly. Given that although there is plenty of sub-ocean evidence of extinction level meteor impacts, that Christianity rests on the fact that all that was created back when had to continue to this day as Noah saved all the animals, then WTF happened to the dinosaurs? And so suddenly? I mean, if indeed there have been no mass extinction level events? 5) If radiocarbon dating is flawed according to creationists, then why does this method of dating consistently separate into epochs that span millions of years certain things that are shown to have existed concurrently - like the dinosaurs in relation to things shown to be tens of millions of years older or younger? It's quite simple really. According to the fairy tale, Earth is only 6,000 years old. That should answer your question. |
| Lord.Kalin User ID: 1295383 United States07/30/2011 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you should ban AssBlastofGawd from your threads ... Quoting: DanG 1487452everyone should, since thats how that idiot handles things.  Last Edited by Lord.Kayle on 07/30/2011 01:32 AM :LordKayleSig4: - "Your best investment is ammo, because it's going to weird quickly." - AC 1196210 - "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson's Personal Seal |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1323894 United States07/30/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you should ban AssBlastofGawd from your threads ... Quoting: DanG 1487452everyone should, since thats how that idiot handles things. Actually, there is "divine" irony that he is trapped on this thread as I call him a pussy to his face. He would like me to ban him and delete his posts. That's why I would never do it. Plus, I'm not logged in, so I can't...lol. |
| Chippey User ID: 1355971  Ukraine07/30/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem in that a superior being exists. One Biblical Day does not mean a 24 hour day as we know it. The earlier animals including the dinosaurs probably died out the same way the Mammoths died. Humans were clever enough to protect themselves from the cold weather that will come again as an Ice Age. Humans have always been humans and there is nothing halfway. There is NO missing link . The flood was probably not as big as the bible suggests but must have been very large. Other cultures speak of it and some modern people suggest that there will be more floods soon if the icecaps melt. Where did 6000 years come from? Of course the earth and mankind have been around much longer than that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283085 United States07/30/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) As "god" created animals on the fifth day and man the next day - and they existed together in the Garden of Eden, how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? And why would god do that to them? Wouldn't he want to protect his first two human creations to insure their successful propagation?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238942) If Adam and Eve were people smart enough to understand and obey or disobey "god" and Christians think of them in modern terms as rational, aware people - then why is the evidence of prehistoric man, which must have post-dated Adam and Eve, point to creatures so primitive and undeveloped? (Oh, I'm sorry. this isn't a dinosaur question.) 3) How did Noah round up two of every dinosaur, especially the flying ones, without getting eaten?? And how did he get close enough to determine males from females? And how did he keep them from eating all the other animals? And what did he feed all the carnivorous animals if not other animals? 4) If the age of the earth is a scant 6,000 years then dinosaurs must have disappeared rather suddenly. Given that although there is plenty of sub-ocean evidence of extinction level meteor impacts, that Christianity rests on the fact that all that was created back when had to continue to this day as Noah saved all the animals, then WTF happened to the dinosaurs? And so suddenly? I mean, if indeed there have been no mass extinction level events? 5) If radiocarbon dating is flawed according to creationists, then why does this method of dating consistently separate into epochs that span millions of years certain things that are shown to have existed concurrently - like the dinosaurs in relation to things shown to be tens of millions of years older or younger? Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. Nevertheless, I will offer some very short and very simple answers, for whatever it may be worth to the OP or anyone else interested. First of all, your answers are in the Bible. There is no better place to go for answers about the Bible than the Bible itself. Just reading the Book of Genesis would have answered many of your questions. 1) All animals (lions, tigers, bears, and "dinosaurs") were neither predators nor carnivorous before the flood. The Bible (Book of Genesis) makes this fact very clear as well as that things changed after the flood; the post-flood Earth is very different that the pre-flood Earth and that includes the fact (necessity) that animals became predatory and carnivorous. 2) What evidence of prehistoric man? There isn't any. If you are referring to the supposed Neanderthal man, do you know it has been revealed openly by mainstream science that it was a mistake? "Neanderthal man" is "just a normal human with unusual bone growth probably due to long-tern arthritis" (the arthritis supposition may or may not be accurate, but there is a differing Biblical reason why the Neanderthal man looked so unusual). 3) Again, the answer is clear if you had bothered to read the first book of the Bible. Noah did not "round up" the animals; the animals came to Noah because God put it in their heart to do so. Again, there were no carnivorous animals. 4) LOL! 99.99% of the dinosaurs were destroyed in the flood of Noah. The rest died off through "natural" extinction as the growing human population hunted them and took over their habitations. Remember, the term dinosaur is a 19th century word, before that they were called 'dragons' and they are the reality behind the myths and legends that have grown into the dragon ideas most people have today. 5) Radiocarbon dating has been proven many times over how flawed it is. You don't hear much about the evidence in mainstream science or on television because evolutionary science knows their entire lie falls apart as soon as they openly admit that radiocarbon dating is not reliable. |
| RadiatedHighness User ID: 1482986 United States07/30/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you should ban AssBlastofGawd from your threads ... Quoting: DanG 1487452everyone should, since thats how that idiot handles things. Actually, there is "divine" irony that he is trapped on this thread as I call him a pussy to his face. He would like me to ban him and delete his posts. That's why I would never do it. Plus, I'm not logged in, so I can't...lol. You call him a pussy to his face? Via webcam or what? |
| RadiatedHighness User ID: 1482986 United States07/30/2011 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) As "god" created animals on the fifth day and man the next day - and they existed together in the Garden of Eden, how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? And why would god do that to them? Wouldn't he want to protect his first two human creations to insure their successful propagation?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238942) If Adam and Eve were people smart enough to understand and obey or disobey "god" and Christians think of them in modern terms as rational, aware people - then why is the evidence of prehistoric man, which must have post-dated Adam and Eve, point to creatures so primitive and undeveloped? (Oh, I'm sorry. this isn't a dinosaur question.) 3) How did Noah round up two of every dinosaur, especially the flying ones, without getting eaten?? And how did he get close enough to determine males from females? And how did he keep them from eating all the other animals? And what did he feed all the carnivorous animals if not other animals? 4) If the age of the earth is a scant 6,000 years then dinosaurs must have disappeared rather suddenly. Given that although there is plenty of sub-ocean evidence of extinction level meteor impacts, that Christianity rests on the fact that all that was created back when had to continue to this day as Noah saved all the animals, then WTF happened to the dinosaurs? And so suddenly? I mean, if indeed there have been no mass extinction level events? 5) If radiocarbon dating is flawed according to creationists, then why does this method of dating consistently separate into epochs that span millions of years certain things that are shown to have existed concurrently - like the dinosaurs in relation to things shown to be tens of millions of years older or younger? Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. Nevertheless, I will offer some very short and very simple answers, for whatever it may be worth to the OP or anyone else interested. First of all, your answers are in the Bible. There is no better place to go for answers about the Bible than the Bible itself. Just reading the Book of Genesis would have answered many of your questions. 1) All animals (lions, tigers, bears, and "dinosaurs") were neither predators nor carnivorous before the flood. The Bible (Book of Genesis) makes this fact very clear as well as that things changed after the flood; the post-flood Earth is very different that the pre-flood Earth and that includes the fact (necessity) that animals became predatory and carnivorous. 2) What evidence of prehistoric man? There isn't any. If you are referring to the supposed Neanderthal man, do you know it has been revealed openly by mainstream science that it was a mistake? "Neanderthal man" is "just a normal human with unusual bone growth probably due to long-tern arthritis" (the arthritis supposition may or may not be accurate, but there is a differing Biblical reason why the Neanderthal man looked so unusual). 3) Again, the answer is clear if you had bothered to read the first book of the Bible. Noah did not "round up" the animals; the animals came to Noah because God put it in their heart to do so. Again, there were no carnivorous animals. 4) LOL! 99.99% of the dinosaurs were destroyed in the flood of Noah. The rest died off through "natural" extinction as the growing human population hunted them and took over their habitations. Remember, the term dinosaur is a 19th century word, before that they were called 'dragons' and they are the reality behind the myths and legends that have grown into the dragon ideas most people have today. 5) Radiocarbon dating has been proven many times over how flawed it is. You don't hear much about the evidence in mainstream science or on television because evolutionary science knows their entire lie falls apart as soon as they openly admit that radiocarbon dating is not reliable. After reading line one of section 1, I knew your answers were complete bullshit. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1323894 United States07/30/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem in that a superior being exists. One Biblical Day does not mean a 24 hour day as we know it. The earlier animals including the dinosaurs probably died out the same way the Mammoths died. Humans were clever enough to protect themselves from the cold weather that will come again as an Ice Age. Humans have always been humans and there is nothing halfway. There is NO missing link . The flood was probably not as big as the bible suggests but must have been very large. Other cultures speak of it and some modern people suggest that there will be more floods soon if the icecaps melt. Where did 6000 years come from? Of course the earth and mankind have been around much longer than that. Quoting: ChippeyOK, so assuming then that science is a much better tool for measuring the age of the universe and the earth than a 2,000 year old book written by peasants and shepherds, and given that science posits that the earth is about 10-15 BILLION years younger than the universe at large, how does THAT support the six sequential time period motif of the bibble? Was there like a 15 billion year break between two of the "days" or something? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485887 United States07/30/2011 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. quote] Wow - God bless You for wasting your precious time indulging an evil, godless troll  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485887 United States07/30/2011 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem in that a superior being exists. One Biblical Day does not mean a 24 hour day as we know it. Quoting: ChippeyReminds me of something from one of my favorite sites. . . [link to www.abarim-publications.com] << The fractal goes on to contain close to every event in the Bible. It allows scenes from Genesis to explain scenes from Revelation, and even permits brief excursions in an abstract future >> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485887 United States07/30/2011 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323894Also, I forot to mention that they had that one Good sleestack helping them |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1323894 United States07/30/2011 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) As "god" created animals on the fifth day and man the next day - and they existed together in the Garden of Eden, how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? And why would god do that to them? Wouldn't he want to protect his first two human creations to insure their successful propagation?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238942) If Adam and Eve were people smart enough to understand and obey or disobey "god" and Christians think of them in modern terms as rational, aware people - then why is the evidence of prehistoric man, which must have post-dated Adam and Eve, point to creatures so primitive and undeveloped? (Oh, I'm sorry. this isn't a dinosaur question.) 3) How did Noah round up two of every dinosaur, especially the flying ones, without getting eaten?? And how did he get close enough to determine males from females? And how did he keep them from eating all the other animals? And what did he feed all the carnivorous animals if not other animals? 4) If the age of the earth is a scant 6,000 years then dinosaurs must have disappeared rather suddenly. Given that although there is plenty of sub-ocean evidence of extinction level meteor impacts, that Christianity rests on the fact that all that was created back when had to continue to this day as Noah saved all the animals, then WTF happened to the dinosaurs? And so suddenly? I mean, if indeed there have been no mass extinction level events? 5) If radiocarbon dating is flawed according to creationists, then why does this method of dating consistently separate into epochs that span millions of years certain things that are shown to have existed concurrently - like the dinosaurs in relation to things shown to be tens of millions of years older or younger? Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. Nevertheless, I will offer some very short and very simple answers, for whatever it may be worth to the OP or anyone else interested. First of all, your answers are in the Bible. There is no better place to go for answers about the Bible than the Bible itself. Just reading the Book of Genesis would have answered many of your questions. 1) All animals (lions, tigers, bears, and "dinosaurs") were neither predators nor carnivorous before the flood. The Bible (Book of Genesis) makes this fact very clear as well as that things changed after the flood; the post-flood Earth is very different that the pre-flood Earth and that includes the fact (necessity) that animals became predatory and carnivorous. 2) What evidence of prehistoric man? There isn't any. If you are referring to the supposed Neanderthal man, do you know it has been revealed openly by mainstream science that it was a mistake? "Neanderthal man" is "just a normal human with unusual bone growth probably due to long-tern arthritis" (the arthritis supposition may or may not be accurate, but there is a differing Biblical reason why the Neanderthal man looked so unusual). 3) Again, the answer is clear if you had bothered to read the first book of the Bible. Noah did not "round up" the animals; the animals came to Noah because God put it in their heart to do so. Again, there were no carnivorous animals. 4) LOL! 99.99% of the dinosaurs were destroyed in the flood of Noah. The rest died off through "natural" extinction as the growing human population hunted them and took over their habitations. Remember, the term dinosaur is a 19th century word, before that they were called 'dragons' and they are the reality behind the myths and legends that have grown into the dragon ideas most people have today. 5) Radiocarbon dating has been proven many times over how flawed it is. You don't hear much about the evidence in mainstream science or on television because evolutionary science knows their entire lie falls apart as soon as they openly admit that radiocarbon dating is not reliable. Thank you for answering my questions. I find your answers couched in patronizing rhetoric to be an excellent learning tool for the masses on the quantum effects that Christianity has on the human mind, rendering it functionally useless. You, my son, are a qualified idiot. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283085 United States07/30/2011 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. quote] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283085Wow - God bless You for wasting your precious time indulging an evil, godless troll Ok, since you managed to miss my point, I will lower the bar and explain it more bluntly for you... The OP has no interest in a discussion and is not truly seeking answers, he is trolling for an argument. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1283085 United States07/30/2011 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) As "god" created animals on the fifth day and man the next day - and they existed together in the Garden of Eden, how did Adam and Eve avoid getting eaten by the multitudes of dinosaurs that must have been all around? Wouldn't most of their time have been dedicated to avoiding dinosaurs? And why would god do that to them? Wouldn't he want to protect his first two human creations to insure their successful propagation?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238942) If Adam and Eve were people smart enough to understand and obey or disobey "god" and Christians think of them in modern terms as rational, aware people - then why is the evidence of prehistoric man, which must have post-dated Adam and Eve, point to creatures so primitive and undeveloped? (Oh, I'm sorry. this isn't a dinosaur question.) 3) How did Noah round up two of every dinosaur, especially the flying ones, without getting eaten?? And how did he get close enough to determine males from females? And how did he keep them from eating all the other animals? And what did he feed all the carnivorous animals if not other animals? 4) If the age of the earth is a scant 6,000 years then dinosaurs must have disappeared rather suddenly. Given that although there is plenty of sub-ocean evidence of extinction level meteor impacts, that Christianity rests on the fact that all that was created back when had to continue to this day as Noah saved all the animals, then WTF happened to the dinosaurs? And so suddenly? I mean, if indeed there have been no mass extinction level events? 5) If radiocarbon dating is flawed according to creationists, then why does this method of dating consistently separate into epochs that span millions of years certain things that are shown to have existed concurrently - like the dinosaurs in relation to things shown to be tens of millions of years older or younger? Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. Nevertheless, I will offer some very short and very simple answers, for whatever it may be worth to the OP or anyone else interested. First of all, your answers are in the Bible. There is no better place to go for answers about the Bible than the Bible itself. Just reading the Book of Genesis would have answered many of your questions. 1) All animals (lions, tigers, bears, and "dinosaurs") were neither predators nor carnivorous before the flood. The Bible (Book of Genesis) makes this fact very clear as well as that things changed after the flood; the post-flood Earth is very different that the pre-flood Earth and that includes the fact (necessity) that animals became predatory and carnivorous. 2) What evidence of prehistoric man? There isn't any. If you are referring to the supposed Neanderthal man, do you know it has been revealed openly by mainstream science that it was a mistake? "Neanderthal man" is "just a normal human with unusual bone growth probably due to long-tern arthritis" (the arthritis supposition may or may not be accurate, but there is a differing Biblical reason why the Neanderthal man looked so unusual). 3) Again, the answer is clear if you had bothered to read the first book of the Bible. Noah did not "round up" the animals; the animals came to Noah because God put it in their heart to do so. Again, there were no carnivorous animals. 4) LOL! 99.99% of the dinosaurs were destroyed in the flood of Noah. The rest died off through "natural" extinction as the growing human population hunted them and took over their habitations. Remember, the term dinosaur is a 19th century word, before that they were called 'dragons' and they are the reality behind the myths and legends that have grown into the dragon ideas most people have today. 5) Radiocarbon dating has been proven many times over how flawed it is. You don't hear much about the evidence in mainstream science or on television because evolutionary science knows their entire lie falls apart as soon as they openly admit that radiocarbon dating is not reliable. Thank you for answering my questions. I find your answers couched in patronizing rhetoric to be an excellent learning tool for the masses on the quantum effects that Christianity has on the human mind, rendering it functionally useless. You, my son, are a qualified idiot.  Pretty much the reply I expected from you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485887 United States07/30/2011 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Considering you are ignorant to history, science, and the Bible, and you are clearly trolling and not truly looking for answers, this is probably a profound waste of my time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283085Wow - God bless You for wasting your precious time indulging an evil, godless troll Ok, since you managed to miss my point, I will lower the bar and explain it more bluntly for you... The OP has no interest in a discussion and is not truly seeking answers, he is trolling for an argument. Ah, now I see |
