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BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan

 
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BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Forty-three Republican senators on Saturday penned a letter outlining their opposition to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill to raise the country’s debt ceiling, a move that ensures the measure will fall short of the 60-vote threshold necessary to avoid a filibuster. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Forty-three Republican senators on Saturday penned a letter outlining their opposition to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill to raise the country’s debt ceiling, a move that ensures the measure will fall short of the 60-vote threshold necessary to avoid a filibuster. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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that's it: whatever happens when the us gets its credit radting downgraded and defaults (or, maybe the other way around) is going to happen soon.
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S&P announced last week that the spending cap plan sent to the senate was the only show of good intent that would avoid credit score degrading. A credit drop is inevitable regardless what they do with this latest piece of legislation.
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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no talk of nationalizing the fed

republicans are shilling just as hard as democrats

disappointing. i really don't want to have to primary my guy next year
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S&P announced last week that the spending cap plan sent to the senate was the only show of good intent that would avoid credit score degrading. A credit drop is inevitable regardless what they do with this latest piece of legislation.
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An increase in interest rates is a tax imposed on everyone that profit bypasses the governments and goes straight into the bankers accounts to buy momma that second caddy.
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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they need 60 to place a limit on debate time and avoid a filibuster i think is the situation. it could pass in the senate, but not in a timely way. any americans who know congressional procedure able to confirm this?
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S&P announced last week that the spending cap plan sent to the senate was the only show of good intent that would avoid credit score degrading. A credit drop is inevitable regardless what they do with this latest piece of legislation.
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A balanced budget ammendment will save our rating ,but nothing short of that.
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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why be a dick? it's not like it's that easy to follow.
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The Debt Ceiling Crisis: Approaching the Witching Hour
As the clock runs down toward the witching hour on August 2, I see three possible solutions to the crisis. First, the Republicans and Democrats in Congress can agree on a compromise plan that raises the debt ceiling for a reasonable period of time and deals with at least some of the issues of spending cuts and new revenues that have thus far so furiously divided the parties. I suppose this is still possible, but it seems unlikely.

Second,...
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How long are they allowed to debate this bill ?
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No matter what happens, a default is going to happen. Now how long the default is, is another question, no onw is asking. How long it would take to get out of it also, is a question no one is asking.
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WE NEED A DOWNGRADE OF USA to << Caa >> the sooner the better !!!
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The Debt Ceiling Crisis: Approaching the Witching Hour
As the clock runs down toward the witching hour on August 2, I see three possible solutions to the crisis. First, the Republicans and Democrats in Congress can agree on a compromise plan that raises the debt ceiling for a reasonable period of time and deals with at least some of the issues of spending cuts and new revenues that have thus far so furiously divided the parties. I suppose this is still possible, but it seems unlikely.

Second,...
the Republicans and Democrats in Congress can agree to increase the debt ceiling for a reasonable period of time without addressing any of the bitterly divisive spending and revenue issues. This is pretty much what has always happened in the past. Congress has separated the debt ceiling issue from the more difficult and more contentious issues of taxing and spending. At this point, that might be the best solution, but it too seems unlikely because of Republican intransigence.

Third, Congress can remain paralyzed and simply do nothing. If they follow that approach, which now seems likely, the current debt ceiling will remain in place and as of August 2 the government will not be able to borrow any more money and thus will no longer be able to pay its bills -- for the first time in American history. What happens then?
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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He is? You're the one who spelled "you're wrong". It's not "your" it's "you're".

Looks like you're the dumb S.O.B. No pun intended.
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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He is? You're the one who spelled "you're wrong". It's not "your" it's "you're".

Looks like you're the dumb S.O.B. No pun intended.
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tounge
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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they need 60 to place a limit on debate time and avoid a filibuster i think is the situation. it could pass in the senate, but not in a timely way. any americans who know congressional procedure able to confirm this?
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Basically 60 Senators are require to support the motion to bring the item to vote regardless of whether they support the item being voted on.
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NOW**** Democrats enforce filibuster against their own debt bill wtfwtfwtf


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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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they need 60 to place a limit on debate time and avoid a filibuster i think is the situation. it could pass in the senate, but not in a timely way. any americans who know congressional procedure able to confirm this?
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Basically 60 Senators are require to support the motion to bring the item to vote regardless of whether they support the item being voted on.
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thanks!
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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AND again wie need a DOWNGRADE !!!

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S&P announced last week that the spending cap plan sent to the senate was the only show of good intent that would avoid credit score degrading. A credit drop is inevitable regardless what they do with this latest piece of legislation.
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Yeah the same awesome ratings agencies that had Enron, Freddie fannie...AAA right up to the point they all tanked like the Hindenburg...now all of a sudden they the most important oracles on the planet.
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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they need 60 to place a limit on debate time and avoid a filibuster i think is the situation. it could pass in the senate, but not in a timely way. any americans who know congressional procedure able to confirm this?
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Basically 60 Senators are require to support the motion to bring the item to vote regardless of whether they support the item being voted on.
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To quote Harry Reid himself:

"For more than 200 years, the rules of the Senate have protected the American people, and rightfully so. The need to muster 60 votes in order to terminate Senate debate naturally frustrates the majority and oftentimes the minority. I am sure it will frustrate me when I assume the office of majority leader in a few weeks. But I recognize this requirement is a tool that serves the long-term interest of the Senate and the American people and our country."

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Forty-three Republican senators on Saturday penned a letter outlining their opposition to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill to raise the country’s debt ceiling, a move that ensures the measure will fall short of the 60-vote threshold necessary to avoid a filibuster. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Here's a PDF of "The McConnell Letter" that is on the United States Senate Office of the Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (senior Republican Senator feom Kentucky) stationery:

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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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You might be a numbers guy, but you don't know how to spell LOL.
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You have got to love the politics at play here. Senate saying the republicans are not very good at laying out a plan that will pass, in the house democrats refused to vote yes on a plan that passed. These guys are flushing us down the drain while aiming to make us believe they are doing anything but. What acrock of shit/
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Re: BREAKING>>>> 43 Republican senators announce opposition to Reid debt-limit plan
S&P announced last week that the spending cap plan sent to the senate was the only show of good intent that would avoid credit score degrading. A credit drop is inevitable regardless what they do with this latest piece of legislation.
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An increase in interest rates is a tax imposed on everyone that profit bypasses the governments and goes straight into the bankers accounts to buy momma that second caddy.
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+1

wall street is going to be rolling in dough thanks to the increased interest charges

they will probably buy a mountain-sized heap of cocaine to celebrate
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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You don't even know how to use YOU ARE or you're properly. You are the worst kind of dumbshit. Nothing worse than a dumbshit calling someone dumb.
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Don't they need 51 yes votes ? Isn't the majority the winner?
100-43 =57. That is a majority.
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your one dumb s.o.b.
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You don't even know how to use YOU ARE or you're properly. You are the worst kind of dumbshit. Nothing worse than a dumbshit calling someone dumb.
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