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Time to secede mentally.

 
PhoenixMatthias
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Time to secede mentally.
Time for our states to secede. If states won't, create your own communities.

Separate yourselves mentally from the idea of being a citizen of the USA. See yourself as not being a part of the country anymore. The country has made itself illegal. Therefore you are not under any obligation to follow its laws.

We will not be enslaved. Therefore you no longer need to be a part of it. That is the only way to be free of enslavement.
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Any agent of the Foreign US Government is an invader. They have de-legitimized themselves. They can claim to be legitimate all they want. These claims do not change facts.

The fact is they are foreign. All claims and actions to the contrary do not change this fact.

How would you treat a foreign invader? Notice I said USA GOV. State and local authorities are NOT representing the USA gov. therefore they are legitimate.

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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Personally, I long for the day when my U.S. passport has all the veracity of a Soviet passport. I would love to return to a sovereign state of New York: no more guns (except, of course, for squirrel and wild turkey hunting upstate); no standing army to squander the wealth of the nation and antagonize everyone on earth; religion in the church and synagogue and not in the ballot box; a nation based upon true common cause (not endlessly squabbling 'states'), dedicated to knowledge, prosperity, and order - not ignorance, violence, and persecution.
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
The country has gotten too large to be governed from a central location. Time to cut the Foreign DC Gov. loose. Let them rule themselves.
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
You can be tied to the Foreign DC Gov. and still be mentally free. How so? Teach yourself to view yourself as independent. When taxes and federal authorities bug you, view them as inconveniences. Let them play their games.

You are no longer part of their system. It is a charade that must be followed to keep yourself safe, for now.

Once free mentally takes steps towards establishing your own communities. Ones where the Federal Foreign DC. Gov. has no authority. Communities that no longer welcome their laws or agents. Since it is your own territory, deal with them as you would any invader into your home.
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Spread this word! Take what I wrote about mentally freeing ourselves. Take what I wrote about setting up free communities! Take all of it and spread it around.

Tell as many people as possible. Only by declaring ourselves liberated can we save ourselves. Not simply declaring it, but acting it.

Truly establishing sovereign communities. Treating Foreign DC Gov. laws and agents as illegal inside these new borders. Any attempt to enforce their Foreign ways on us will be acts of war.

How did the states and Gov. become established? Through written words in a document people agreed to. They came into existence that way. If they could do so, then we too can create our own sovereign communities.

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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Here is a rather bizarre but interesting how-to rant on how to drop out of society. Some of it's crazy, but some is useful:

[link to www.skeptictank.org]
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Seceding: Where does one logically stop?

"It is all the more curious, incidentally, that while laissez-faireists should by the logic of their position, be ardent believers in a single, unified world government, so that no one will live in a state of 'anarchy' in relation to anyone else, they almost never are.

And once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as being in a state of impermissible 'anarchy,' why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighborhood? Each block? Each house? Each person? But, of course, if each person may secede from government, we have virtually arrived at the purely free society, where defense is supplied along with all other services by the free market and where the invasive State has ceased to exist."

[link to www.lewrockwell.com]
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I fear not death, nor torture, nor imprisonment. I am a Sovereign King on the land, and as such, I will never bow to any supposed authority. Be they politician, king, queen, police, judge, or the POPE in ROME. I have only one master, that being my creator, the author of my existence, my only true authority. I am the spirit of freedom, a ghost of the republic.
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Re: Time to secede mentally.
Seceding: Where does one logically stop?

"It is all the more curious, incidentally, that while laissez-faireists should by the logic of their position, be ardent believers in a single, unified world government, so that no one will live in a state of 'anarchy' in relation to anyone else, they almost never are.

And once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as being in a state of impermissible 'anarchy,' why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighborhood? Each block? Each house? Each person? But, of course, if each person may secede from government, we have virtually arrived at the purely free society, where defense is supplied along with all other services by the free market and where the invasive State has ceased to exist."

[link to www.lewrockwell.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488845


Where does it stop? Until it gets to a size too small to be sustainable. It need not be carried out to the extreme you described.

Individuals need a government. Secession stops when the sense of "community" goes away. It stops when the government cares for is people.
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Seceding: Where does one logically stop?

"It is all the more curious, incidentally, that while laissez-faireists should by the logic of their position, be ardent believers in a single, unified world government, so that no one will live in a state of 'anarchy' in relation to anyone else, they almost never are.

And once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as being in a state of impermissible 'anarchy,' why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighborhood? Each block? Each house? Each person? But, of course, if each person may secede from government, we have virtually arrived at the purely free society, where defense is supplied along with all other services by the free market and where the invasive State has ceased to exist."

[link to www.lewrockwell.com]
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Where does it stop? Until it gets to a size too small to be sustainable.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Which is where?
You didn't really address the question.

It need not be carried out to the extreme you described.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


You believe it is extreme to be opposed to tyranny?

And you are willing to use violence against peaceful/innocent people to prevent them from leaving an abusive relationship?

Individuals need a government.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


Seceding doesn't prevent governance.

Secession stops when the sense of "community" goes away. It stops when the government cares for is people.
 Quoting: PhoenixMatthias


How do you determine that? And when has that ever happened?

Wouldn't any government that 'cares for its people' be against imposing tyranny upon them?

Again, if you want a government that uses violence against peaceful/innocent people to prevent them from leaving, then you don't actually want a government that 'cares for its people'.

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