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Weltsmertz
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US !!! Fort Irwin, California....I wonder how that conversation went...

"Where are the AK's?"
"UH, I don't know"

Stolen form our own army base in our own country! LAME


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extra funny part, the ATF is requesting the public's assistance in locating the weapons, and good news, if your in CA and need cash, find them they give you 10K!!!!
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--from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877)
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Why would American Base's have a bunch of Commie weapons?
Odd.
We use M-4 carbines and M-16s.
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07/31/2011 11:15 AM
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Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
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Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
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Because proxy war armies look better holding Russian or Chinese made AK's instead of their hosts nations army distinctive weapon of choice?
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lol I saw this story this morning. The govnt has a lot of nerve telling us we can't have "assault" rifles and they can't even secure their own.
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perhaps it is not a real US Base????
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US !!! Fort Irwin, California....I wonder how that conversation went...

"Where are the AK's?"
"UH, I don't know"

Stolen form our own army base in our own country! LAME


[link to www.cnn.com]



extra funny part, the ATF is requesting the public's assistance in locating the weapons, and good news, if your in CA and need cash, find them they give you 10K!!!!
 Quoting: Weltsmertz


Gun cartels strike again....
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Maybe they're walking them across the border.
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07/31/2011 11:22 AM
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Put two and two together.

what is the weapon of choice for a false flag involving muzlim extremists?

(don't they use ak47s)

what does the military want more then anything in these days of budget cuts?

(to stay in power perhaps)

What do you think is part of this new debt cieling plan?

(couldn't be closing bases like ft irwin could it?)
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Put two and two together.

what is the weapon of choice for a false flag involving muzlim extremists?

(don't they use ak47s)

what does the military want more then anything in these days of budget cuts?

(to stay in power perhaps)

What do you think is part of this new debt cieling plan?

(couldn't be closing bases like ft irwin could it?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258564


um, we don't really need a false flag for muslim extremists, they're still blowing shit up all by themselves.
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07/31/2011 11:27 AM
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We'd better be fast and furious in our efforts to track them down! Some one might get hurt!

:(
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We'd better be fast and furious in our efforts to track them down! Some one might get hurt!

:(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127413


lol...


If anything it's gonna be a false flag involving white christian fox-news watchers.
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If you fucking tools knew what Ft. Irwin was for, you'd go jump face first into a sidewalk.

Load your brain, before you shoot your mouth.

Fucking pathetic.
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07/31/2011 11:32 AM
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Well, there's a few less weapons the government needs to hand out to criminals.

Investigation: US ATF Secretly Arming Mexican Drug Cartels (Mar 3, 2011 - CBS)

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I figured out why these types of firearms are stored in a U.S. base. Google "OPFOR".
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Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869449


Because proxy war armies look better holding Russian or Chinese made AK's instead of their hosts nations army distinctive weapon of choice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487974


Members of SOCOM train with OPFOR weapons because it is often convenient to use them in battle due to the availability of ammunition and other reasons of expedience.

Last Edited by Least Servant on 07/31/2011 11:35 AM
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The reason we have AKs on an American base is because one of the units there is designated as an opforce for training excercises, They also have BMPs and T72 tanks. They use these in wargames to train our soldiers.
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What is ft erwin for?...I have a taste for pavement. lol
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[link to www.rollingstone.com]

The Kill Team: How U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan Murdered Innocent Civilians

<snip>

Given the lack of response from their superiors, the soldiers of 3rd Platoon now believed they could kill with impunity – provided they planted "drop weapons" at the scene to frame their victims as enemy combatants. The presence of a weapon virtually guaranteed that a shooting would be considered a legitimate kill, even under the stricter rules of engagement the military had implemented as a key element of counterinsurgency. A drop weapon was the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card. And in the chaotic war zone, they were easy to find
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What is ft erwin for?...I have a taste for pavement. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1476801


National Training Center, or NTC.
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ft. Irwin is the National Training grounds for the Army. War games galore. I've spent many weeks out there in the Mojave desert.
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Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869449


IDK good question!
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
Friedrich Nietzsche

if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it."
--from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877)
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


WOW! I am so glad my little post got pinned I had no idea! What a video. I don;t know what I am more appalled by, the NEED for our soldiers, fighting and in danger to have to consider they may be prosecuted for a reactionary, self protecting or unit defending response to a hostile or surprising situation, OR the fact that it must be so prevalent that they carry around DROP WEAPONS just in case!!!!!!!!


Geeze!
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
Friedrich Nietzsche

if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it."
--from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877)
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Re: Feds: AK-74 assault rifles stolen from.....
Put two and two together.

what is the weapon of choice for a false flag involving muzlim extremists?

(don't they use ak47s)

what does the military want more then anything in these days of budget cuts?

(to stay in power perhaps)

What do you think is part of this new debt cieling plan?

(couldn't be closing bases like ft irwin could it?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258564


um, we don't really need a false flag for muslim extremists, they're still blowing shit up all by themselves.
 Quoting: Hypocrisy


this is a good and scary point. I agree they blow up plenty of shit on their own but the government can't really hope they do it where and when they would like simply by chance.
I don;t know what to make of the debt situation. I am very concerned for what will happen if we don't get a raise in the ceiling in terms of public reaction. I do believe though at the first slight sign of unrest those 20,000 US based troops trained to assist local police in situations of public unrest (we read about them here on GLP last week) will come out. Many arrest will be made and those non-existant 'camps' 'detention centers' will suddenly exist. The enemy combatant executive order will hold many of us, and HEY maybe your right and BAM the AK's will show up in a false flag event to redirect our attention away form hating the government to looking to them to PROTECT us again. It is going to be a very interesting week for sure, with or without a debt cieling increase.
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
Friedrich Nietzsche

if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it."
--from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877)
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(we read about them here on GLP last week)
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You have a sad, sad life.
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Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869449


Because proxy war armies look better holding Russian or Chinese made AK's instead of their hosts nations army distinctive weapon of choice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487974


Members of SOCOM train with OPFOR weapons because it is often convenient to use them in battle due to the availability of ammunition and other reasons of expedience.
 Quoting: Least Servant


You play to many video games

1rof1
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[link to www.rollingstone.com]

The Kill Team: How U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan Murdered Innocent Civilians

<snip>

Given the lack of response from their superiors, the soldiers of 3rd Platoon now believed they could kill with impunity – provided they planted "drop weapons" at the scene to frame their victims as enemy combatants. The presence of a weapon virtually guaranteed that a shooting would be considered a legitimate kill, even under the stricter rules of engagement the military had implemented as a key element of counterinsurgency. A drop weapon was the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card. And in the chaotic war zone, they were easy to find
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284583


Oh yeah, Rolling Stoner magazine.....I'd believe Al Gore before I believed a word out of that progressive rag
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Put two and two together.

what is the weapon of choice for a false flag involving muzlim extremists?

(don't they use ak47s)

what does the military want more then anything in these days of budget cuts?

(to stay in power perhaps)

What do you think is part of this new debt cieling plan?

(couldn't be closing bases like ft irwin could it?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258564


um, we don't really need a false flag for muslim extremists, they're still blowing shit up all by themselves.
 Quoting: Hypocrisy


this is a good and scary point. I agree they blow up plenty of shit on their own but the government can't really hope they do it where and when they would like simply by chance.
I don;t know what to make of the debt situation. I am very concerned for what will happen if we don't get a raise in the ceiling in terms of public reaction. I do believe though at the first slight sign of unrest those 20,000 US based troops trained to assist local police in situations of public unrest (we read about them here on GLP last week) will come out. Many arrest will be made and those non-existant 'camps' 'detention centers' will suddenly exist. The enemy combatant executive order will hold many of us, and HEY maybe your right and BAM the AK's will show up in a false flag event to redirect our attention away form hating the government to looking to them to PROTECT us again. It is going to be a very interesting week for sure, with or without a debt cieling increase.
 Quoting: Weltsmertz


Yea, they might try to distract from the crisis with some crazy "right wing" white guy, some poor dupe who was just surfing the net after being laid off, and then we'll all hear the lectures about multiculturalism and how we can't cut the spending because we need to "educate" people and such nonsense.
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Re: Feds: AK-74 assault rifles stolen from.....
Why are there non-U.S. rifles stored at that base?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869449


Because proxy war armies look better holding Russian or Chinese made AK's instead of their hosts nations army distinctive weapon of choice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487974


Members of SOCOM train with OPFOR weapons because it is often convenient to use them in battle due to the availability of ammunition and other reasons of expedience.
 Quoting: Least Servant


You play to many video games

1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1481225


I used to play too many video games, now I don't play nearly enough.

All I know is that my dad rocked a few commie weapons back in Vietnam, so I'm sure things haven't changed too much... anything but the M16 was the rule of course the issued equipment is much better now I am sure. suckpuppy
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