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Senate voting on Reid Debt bill live now and the result is FAIL..!!!!!!

 
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so now a recess. They redo the bill and come back to pass the senate version.
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Isn't legislation supposed to start in the House and proceed to the Senate according to the Constitution? Isn't this entire process unconstitutional/illegal?
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Hmmm, me wonders if I misunderstood. Trying to eat lunch, clean house, get ready for work, and listen to this.

Who said guys can't multi-task? LOL.
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Here is how i see it, the tea party is like many on glp, they want a default, really bad, believe the downgrade and the increased cost of borrowing will bring in long term fiscal responsibility, like a drunk hitting a bottom,

HOWEVER, main stream republican and dems do NOT want default, it would put the existing system in too much jeopardy and they feel it can be tweaked and played with slightly, slowly as the years go bye.

In politics one party wins big and one gets the screw,

Here the repubs and dems will create a bi partisan bill that is almost all give to the republicans and the tea party extremists will not have a default,

if you have the votes, you can pass a bill in hours, and that is exactly how the endgame will play out here, the drama is just cover for obama and reid to sell out their constituients
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it will pass w/ the 'debt ceiling', and then fail, then pass and then 5 minutes to midnight on Aug 2, 2011, will fail and U.S. will go into default, just like "The people behind the curtain" (aka Govt., aka "The man") wanted to, from the very getgo, and the ensuing riots, looting will start. This was all Setup 66+years ago.
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so now a recess. They redo the bill and come back to pass the senate version.
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Isn't legislation supposed to start in the House and proceed to the Senate according to the Constitution? Isn't this entire process unconstitutional/illegal?
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finger on nose

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it will pass w/ the 'debt ceiling', and then fail, then pass and then 5 minutes to midnight on Aug 2, 2011, will fail and U.S. will go into default, just like "The people behind the curtain" (aka Govt., aka "The man") wanted to, from the very getgo, and the ensuing riots, looting will start. This was all Setup 66+years ago.
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Exactly.
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it will pass w/ the 'debt ceiling', and then fail, then pass and then 5 minutes to midnight on Aug 2, 2011, will fail and U.S. will go into default, just like "The people behind the curtain" (aka Govt., aka "The man") wanted to, from the very getgo, and the ensuing riots, looting will start. This was all Setup 66+years ago.
 Quoting: Future Viewer 1421541


I don't think so, but we shall see, this is going to be over is 48 hours, right now the politicans have to fight so they can surrender with dignity, the tea party is not going to get a default, won't happen, no 14th amendment,

Republicans appointed 6 of the nine supreme court justices, so you know how the 14th amendment will go
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Better line up at the bank teller's window tomorrow morning EARLY

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Re: Senate voting on Reid Debt bill live now and the result is FAIL..!!!!!!
This was just a vote to end a filibuster, no legislation.

Reid changed his vote as a procedural task.

Everything I've seen today is that there is a deal, no taxes, 3 trillion in cuts, and language for a balanced budget amendment (not exactly sure what that means).

Obama and Biden have been working with these folks to cut the deal.
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This was just a vote to end a filibuster, no legislation.

Reid changed his vote as a procedural task.

Everything I've seen today is that there is a deal, no taxes, 3 trillion in cuts, and language for a balanced budget amendment (not exactly sure what that means).

Obama and Biden have been working with these folks to cut the deal.
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I want it to fail I want change dammit!!!
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This was just a vote to end a filibuster, no legislation.

Reid changed his vote as a procedural task.

Everything I've seen today is that there is a deal, no taxes, 3 trillion in cuts, and language for a balanced budget amendment (not exactly sure what that means).

Obama and Biden have been working with these folks to cut the deal.
 Quoting: DisasterInc


Looks that way. They'll wait until Monday afternoon to announce it and reap the rewards of a rebounding stock market.
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so now a recess. They redo the bill and come back to pass the senate version.
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Isn't legislation supposed to start in the House and proceed to the Senate according to the Constitution? Isn't this entire process unconstitutional/illegal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489478


nah, they send Senate bills to the house all the time.
Just like Obamacare....Once the Demorats lost their filibuster proof Senate?...they HAD to take the bill as it was passed when they still had 60 votes and send that to the house, where the house had to leave it untouched and vote to pass or fail...which is just what they did...
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Here is how i see it, the tea party is like many on glp, they want a default, really bad, believe the downgrade and the increased cost of borrowing will bring in long term fiscal responsibility, like a drunk hitting a bottom,

HOWEVER, main stream republican and dems do NOT want default, it would put the existing system in too much jeopardy and they feel it can be tweaked and played with slightly, slowly as the years go bye.

In politics one party wins big and one gets the screw,

Here the repubs and dems will create a bi partisan bill that is almost all give to the republicans and the tea party extremists will not have a default,

if you have the votes, you can pass a bill in hours, and that is exactly how the endgame will play out here, the drama is just cover for obama and reid to sell out their constituients
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The point here is a default will ultimately create an entire new system. If the U.S. does actually fall into default, the entire U.S. political system will be in jeopardy. This is why I don't believe it will happen.

Our politicians want to continue living lavish lifestyles are robbing all the tax paying citizens and they're not going to risk a potential default. It's all one big game of egos. Those on here with half a brain can realize that the politicians are simply positioning themselves for next years elections. It's a vicious cycle, but that cycle is about to explode even if they make a deal work on the debt ceiling.
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This was just a vote to end a filibuster, no legislation.

Reid changed his vote as a procedural task.

Everything I've seen today is that there is a deal, no taxes, 3 trillion in cuts, and language for a balanced budget amendment (not exactly sure what that means).

Obama and Biden have been working with these folks to cut the deal.
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Vote for Cloture, but if can't get cloture?...they cannot vote...so it essentially is a vote on a bill...rarely any of them vote for or against cloture then change the vote on passage....unless it's some retard like Reid who still thinks he can cut a deal and wants to look like he took a shit in his pants on purpose...

I MEANT TO DO THAT! IT'S GREAT! ALL THE COOL KIDS ARE DOING IT IN THEIR PANTS!

They will "re-submit" now and make changes, deals and try it again...
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This was just a vote to end a filibuster, no legislation.

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That's not what CSPAN is reporting on CSPAN1 right now:

SENATE BLOCKS REID DEBT BILL 50-49; 60 VOTES WERE NEEDED.
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEFAULT IS ON!

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please define cloture, the word and meaning?
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Senate blocked the bill.
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There isn't going to be any defualt or any "New system" or anything even close to that.

Obama will make a face cause he didn't get have to his way which is the only thing he knows, every whitehouse lawyer will tell him he HAS to pay any debt uncured under law as per the 14th amendment and if he wants to play Mr Pissy?...then he has to take the money from disretionary spending...so cut that green unicorn power grant to your tarded HahVahd egghead commie pal and eat YOUR peas sonny...
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please define cloture, the word and meaning?
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2 minutes ago german television told us, there is a big chance that the default not gonna happen ...

well, most channels do not make it big that the us may default, but they avoid all breaking news about eu default as well , the only things shown are norway or sports -_-
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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I get the feeling this "crisis" is going to fizzle out and we won't be talking about it in 4 days.
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Well this whole "crisis" and the kaboom date of Aug 2nd were both Bullshit from the start.

We have more than enough money to "pay our bills"...it's the issue of spending on all the "programs"..and them continuing to borrow money to do it...
 Quoting: SHR


exactly they're all full of BS so bad. Whats really sad is the ones that believe every word they are saying to the press.
I would rather have them waite a pass a good bill then to use this Date of Aug which is a made up date to try and finish things before they go on break. Harry Reid makes my skin crawl. He's a bug
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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crybaby
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lol spit my coffee...
Water always wins.
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There isn't going to be any defualt or any "New system" or anything even close to that.

Obama will make a face cause he didn't get have to his way which is the only thing he knows, every whitehouse lawyer will tell him he HAS to pay any debt uncured under law as per the 14th amendment and if he wants to play Mr Pissy?...then he has to take the money from disretionary spending...so cut that green unicorn power grant to your tarded HahVahd egghead commie pal and eat YOUR peas sonny...
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"eat YOUR peas"...cool saying, SHR...now you have to teach Obama that saying.

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