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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Nothing happened. Period. They're just yanking our collective chains while they finish getting their families to their various bug out locations.
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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:crybaby:
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I'll bet every time he thinks the Dems might win the house, he thinks of losing his salary as Speaker of the House...$223,500.
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?

I think it is obviously that Obama and his pose do not want a debt deal and they want default. They will blame the entire thing on the the Republians and especially the tea party and then the thing they want most, chaos!

They are being so predictable!

I have not always agreed with everything Glen Beck said but he was right about this. Obama and his pose want chaos!

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And its "Roger Bacon", who will know, and from his philosophies in his head, that have been embedded in my head, from his book I'm reading, the Govt. (aka "People behind the Curtain", aka "The Man")will default about 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011, and stay in default for about 3 months, with many Rioting, Looting, Killing, Mugging, Attacking, especially in the High Entitlement Areas".

You'll see!, I've also got some outer world connections on this.
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEFAULT IS ON!

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amen brothah, amen applause2applause2
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


One house of congress is trying to pass a bill right now.
Both houses need to pass any bill for it go to the president to be signed into law by him, or vetoed and not signed, but that is another story.

Once a bill is passed by either branch of congress, "the House of representatives" or "the senate" then it goes to other one to get voted on. If there are changes made it goes back and forth until it passed by both the senate and the house clean with no more changes...or doesn't pass, then it's dead.

What you saw here was a vote to "End debate" then there would have been a vote to pass or fail, then this bill would have went to the house of representatives for their vote.

They didn't get enough votes to "end debate" so the bill essentially sits there and they try and make deals and changes until they think they can get enough votes to say "it's done, now we vote"...or if they can't get enough votes and cant make deals?...the bill just sits there and is dead.
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Nothing happened. Period. They're just yanking our collective chains while they finish getting their families to their various bug out locations.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Thanx

So why are peeps on this thread dancing the default dance???
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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LOLrockon
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


One house of congress is trying to pass a bill right now.
Both houses need to pass any bill for it go to the president to be signed into law by him, or vetoed and not signed, but that is another story.

Once a bill is passed by either branch of congress, "the House of representatives" or "the senate" then it goes to other one to get voted on. If there are changes made it goes back and forth until it passed by both the senate and the house clean with no more changes...or doesn't pass, then it's dead.

What you saw here was a vote to "End debate" then there would have been a vote to pass or fail, then this bill would have went to the house of representatives for their vote.

They didn't get enough votes to "end debate" so the bill essentially sits there and they try and make deals and changes until they think they can get enough votes to say "it's done, now we vote"...or if they can't get enough votes and cant make deals?...the bill just sits there and is dead.
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Sounds like a ping pong game
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Just to recap for those coming in late: The Senate defeated a Reid's proposal to raise the debt ceiling by a vote of 50 to 49. It needed 60 votes to advance.

In other words, they had to make Harry feel like he was a real man if only for a minute.

Elements of his sucky plan will likely be kept in the bipartisan deal which could be completed this afternoon.

Supposedly, they are poised to jump on this once this "deal" is reached.
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Nothing happened. Period. They're just yanking our collective chains while they finish getting their families to their various bug out locations.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Thanx

So why are peeps on this thread dancing the default dance???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Because some of us believe that the only way to put an end to this long day's journey into night that began in the Summer of 2007 is to just plain default.
It's like the rotten tooth...just pull the mother and go from there.
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This is pornographic.
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it's not .govporn until Boner starts cryin'
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:crybaby:
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That's hilarious!! applause2
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Just to recap for those coming in late: The Senate defeated a Reid's proposal to raise the debt ceiling by a vote of 50 to 49. It needed 60 votes to advance.

In other words, they had to make Harry feel like he was a real man if only for a minute.

Elements of his sucky plan will likely be kept in the bipartisan deal which could be completed this afternoon.

Supposedly, they are poised to jump on this once this "deal" is reached.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


So in Laymans terms is DOOM still on? Are things worse than what they were say 10 hours ago?
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Nothing happened. Period. They're just yanking our collective chains while they finish getting their families to their various bug out locations.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Thanx

So why are peeps on this thread dancing the default dance???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489496


Because some of us believe that the only way to put an end to this long day's journey into night that began in the Summer of 2007 is to just plain default.
It's like the rotten tooth...just pull the mother and go from there.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Yeah that sounds like here in spain.
Well at least we can feel poor together 5a

Thx for the explanations
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I get the feeling this "crisis" is going to fizzle out and we won't be talking about it in 4 days.
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Well this whole "crisis" and the kaboom date of Aug 2nd were both Bullshit from the start.

We have more than enough money to "pay our bills"...it's the issue of spending on all the "programs"..and them continuing to borrow money to do it...
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exactly they're all full of BS so bad. Whats really sad is the ones that believe every word they are saying to the press.
I would rather have them waite a pass a good bill then to use this Date of Aug which is a made up date to try and finish things before they go on break. Harry Reid makes my skin crawl. He's a bug
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Thing is...a lot of people WILL believe it.

You have to remember...most people are NOT like us on GLP..they are not as informed...How many people do we ALL know that are "old school" and have a trust in the Office of the President of the United States because it's what they have been brought up to know for 50-60-70 years?...there are a lot...and many of them ARE afraid...

It's why this whole BULLSHIT FEAR MONGERING on the part of Obama just makes my stomach turn...it's a total lowlife move and the mainstream media just sucks his ass...all of them should be ashamed...

I bet I have told 2 dozen people who are 70+ years old that there is ZERO chance of anything holding their Social Security up, that the 14th amendmant makes THAT illegal...it's hard for them to have a handle on this they trust...and they were not fully convinced by me telling them that either...these people trust their doctors, the president etc etc...they think that while they may not like any president, that a president would just not bullshit them...they are wrong on that of course.
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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There isn't going to be any defualt or any "New system" or anything even close to that.

Obama will make a face cause he didn't get have to his way which is the only thing he knows, every whitehouse lawyer will tell him he HAS to pay any debt uncured under law as per the 14th amendment and if he wants to play Mr Pissy?...then he has to take the money from disretionary spending...so cut that green unicorn power grant to your tarded HahVahd egghead commie pal and eat YOUR peas sonny...
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"eat YOUR peas"...cool saying, SHR...now you have to teach Obama that saying.
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I might actually go on my twatter account and twit all these retards with something like:

Time to eat YOUR Peas Mr President, cut spending and stop wasting the peoples money.
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There isn't going to be any defualt or any "New system" or anything even close to that.

Obama will make a face cause he didn't get have to his way which is the only thing he knows, every whitehouse lawyer will tell him he HAS to pay any debt uncured under law as per the 14th amendment and if he wants to play Mr Pissy?...then he has to take the money from disretionary spending...so cut that green unicorn power grant to your tarded HahVahd egghead commie pal and eat YOUR peas sonny...
 Quoting: SHR

"eat YOUR peas"...cool saying, SHR...now you have to teach Obama that saying.
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I might actually go on my twatter account and twit all these retards with something like:

Time to eat YOUR Peas Mr President, cut spending and stop wasting the peoples money.
 Quoting: SHR


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And its "Roger Bacon", who will know, and from his philosophies in his head, that have been embedded in my head, from his book I'm reading, the Govt. (aka "People behind the Curtain", aka "The Man")will default about 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011, and stay in default for about 3 months, with many Rioting, Looting, Killing, Mugging, Attacking, especially in the High Entitlement Areas".

You'll see!, I've also got some outer world connections on this.
 Quoting: Future Viewer 1421541


Betcha those "High Entitlement Areas" include Congress itself. They caused this mess.

This is why some deal will be reached, the checks will be mailed, then all will be quiet on the western front. The one thing the gov doesn't want is "rioting, looting, killing, mugging, and attacking" any who are posing as authorities.
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2:16pm | Congress and Obama are trying to reach a deal by the time the Asian markets open this evening, but a deal has not been agreed to yet..

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2:13pm | Unanimous consent.
Any deal to raise the debt limit by August 2nd will now require "unanimous consent" in the Senate. Senate rules allow members unlimited debate time, barring an agreement to contrary or a "cloture" vote to end debate.

A cloture vote requires not just 60 votes, but also a one-day "ripening" period, and still allows for 30 hours of debate after the vote. If one Senator unhappy with the plan currently being negotiated by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and President Barack Obama objected to ending debate, a final vote would not be held until Wednesday — assuming cloture is filed by 11:59 pm today.


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2:09pm | McConnell: "We're really, really close to an agreement. I'll let u know when we get it.".


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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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This...
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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It's all part of the plan, Stan...
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And its "Roger Bacon", who will know, and from his philosophies in his head, that have been embedded in my head, from his book I'm reading, the Govt. (aka "People behind the Curtain", aka "The Man")will default about 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011, and stay in default for about 3 months, with many Rioting, Looting, Killing, Mugging, Attacking, especially in the High Entitlement Areas".

You'll see!, I've also got some outer world connections on this.
 Quoting: Future Viewer 1421541


Betcha those "High Entitlement Areas" include Congress itself. They caused this mess.

This is why some deal will be reached, the checks will be mailed, then all will be quiet on the western front. The one thing the gov doesn't want is "rioting, looting, killing, mugging, and attacking" any who are posing as authorities.
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No deal will be reached, it will be in eventual "default" 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011. And it will be in default for 3 months, according to my sources, that I have and these are not earthly sources. And the ensuing riots, looting, muggings, killings and etc... will happen.
And Martial Law, will eventually be called after 3 months of hell in the U.S.A.. You can bet the farm on this.
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And its "Roger Bacon", who will know, and from his philosophies in his head, that have been embedded in my head, from his book I'm reading, the Govt. (aka "People behind the Curtain", aka "The Man")will default about 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011, and stay in default for about 3 months, with many Rioting, Looting, Killing, Mugging, Attacking, especially in the High Entitlement Areas".

You'll see!, I've also got some outer world connections on this.
 Quoting: Future Viewer 1421541


Betcha those "High Entitlement Areas" include Congress itself. They caused this mess.

This is why some deal will be reached, the checks will be mailed, then all will be quiet on the western front. The one thing the gov doesn't want is "rioting, looting, killing, mugging, and attacking" any who are posing as authorities.
.
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No deal will be reached, it will be in eventual "default" 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011. And it will be in default for 3 months, according to my sources, that I have and these are not earthly sources. And the ensuing riots, looting, muggings, killings and etc... will happen.
And Martial Law, will eventually be called after 3 months of hell in the U.S.A.. You can bet the farm on this.
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Ok, I have a "Non-earthly" farm I will put up.....
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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Reid voted no on his own bill. Is this true?
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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It's all part of the plan, Stan...
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Its like some reality tv political soap opera.
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And its "Roger Bacon", who will know, and from his philosophies in his head, that have been embedded in my head, from his book I'm reading, the Govt. (aka "People behind the Curtain", aka "The Man")will default about 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011, and stay in default for about 3 months, with many Rioting, Looting, Killing, Mugging, Attacking, especially in the High Entitlement Areas".

You'll see!, I've also got some outer world connections on this.
 Quoting: Future Viewer 1421541


Betcha those "High Entitlement Areas" include Congress itself. They caused this mess.

This is why some deal will be reached, the checks will be mailed, then all will be quiet on the western front. The one thing the gov doesn't want is "rioting, looting, killing, mugging, and attacking" any who are posing as authorities.
.
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No deal will be reached, it will be in eventual "default" 5 minutes before midnight on August 2, 2011. And it will be in default for 3 months, according to my sources, that I have and these are not earthly sources. And the ensuing riots, looting, muggings, killings and etc... will happen.
And Martial Law, will eventually be called after 3 months of hell in the U.S.A.. You can bet the farm on this.
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wtf

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