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Senate voting on Reid Debt bill live now and the result is FAIL..!!!!!!

 
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YES. It is.
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an explanation of this odd behaviour would be appreciated.
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It's all part of the plan, Stan...
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Its like some reality tv political soap opera.
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Yep, and the players are every bit as sleezy as any reality show star!
Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few.
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So what happened?

Trying to figure it out but I dont understand anything of USA system. Can someone please explain.

What happened?

What does it mean?
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Nothing happened. Period. They're just yanking our collective chains while they finish getting their families to their various bug out locations.
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^THIS!!!

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please define cloture, the word and meaning?
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[link to lmgtfy.com]
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Bravo SHR! LOL! I love this! Totally PRIME...

I will be using that....

I guess it's the layman's version of RTFM
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Ok...so the buggers have had their upteenth pizza and beer break..when do they come back on put on another sock puppet show for us??
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They are making a deal as we type. 3 trillion in cuts, ceiling raised till after the election, commission, balanced budget vote, etc. The dems are selling out their liberal wing.

A good chunk of the tea party is determined to default, therefore the lib dems are selling out to peel away enough repub votes to get the deal done,

You know the conservatives are going to get most of what they want because of the tea partiers acting like economic suicide bombers, and you know what, the tea party will NOT be happy in the end. Reason,

No DEFAULT
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Just to recap for those coming in late: The Senate defeated a Reid's proposal to raise the debt ceiling by a vote of 50 to 49. It needed 60 votes to advance.

In other words, they had to make Harry feel like he was a real man if only for a minute.

Elements of his sucky plan will likely be kept in the bipartisan deal which could be completed this afternoon.

Supposedly, they are poised to jump on this once this "deal" is reached.
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So in Laymans terms is DOOM still on? Are things worse than what they were say 10 hours ago?
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yes....head for the bunkers!
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There isn't going to be any defualt or any "New system" or anything even close to that.

Obama will make a face cause he didn't get have to his way which is the only thing he knows, every whitehouse lawyer will tell him he HAS to pay any debt uncured under law as per the 14th amendment and if he wants to play Mr Pissy?...then he has to take the money from disretionary spending...so cut that green unicorn power grant to your tarded HahVahd egghead commie pal and eat YOUR peas sonny...
 Quoting: SHR

"eat YOUR peas"...cool saying, SHR...now you have to teach Obama that saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489393


I might actually go on my twatter account and twit all these retards with something like:

Time to eat YOUR Peas Mr President, cut spending and stop wasting the peoples money.
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They are probably drinking a few beers and smoking a joint or two, having a laugh about various things. Then a few minutes before the press conference "oh well, what rubbish should we tell the sheeple now, I know, lets keep the suspense going and say the were not agreeing now after all"
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3:01pm | Democrats meeting.
Reid, Durbin, Schumer arrive in House Minority Leader Pelosi's office for meeting with House Democratic leadership. Reid told reporters he was "cautiously optimistic."

Obama reportedly told Pelosi and Reid that a deal would not be final unless they supported it.



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yes....head for the bunkers!
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But what if the plain folks don't have any??
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They are making a deal as we type. 3 trillion in cuts, ceiling raised till after the election, commission, balanced budget vote, etc. The dems are selling out their liberal wing.

A good chunk of the tea party is determined to default, therefore the lib dems are selling out to peel away enough repub votes to get the deal done,

You know the conservatives are going to get most of what they want because of the tea partiers acting like economic suicide bombers, and you know what, the tea party will NOT be happy in the end. Reason,

No DEFAULT
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Lol...get that bunk from thinkprogress.org?
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you are all waiting for this?
you know they will pass it at the 11th hour with bipartisan support

you are sheep to the slaughter....

Do you really thing they wont pass it--- its all a show for the sheep.
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you are all waiting for this?
you know they will pass it at the 11th hour with bipartisan support

you are sheep to the slaughter....

Do you really thing they wont pass it--- its all a show for the sheep.
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Spot on, blatantly obvious really when you take a step back and view the theatrical sillyness from a neutral vantage point
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8 million work for Uncle Sam/Uncle Boris, now if about 1 million have something to do with military, 1 million to do something with IRS. That leaves over 6 million Government workers that could be involved in some Intelligence Corporation. Thats about monitoring 1 out of 50 people in America. Just like Probation Officers whose task is to monitor about 50 Probationary Violators. But anyhow Govt. going into Default, and the "People behind the curtain" (aka "The Man",aka The Govt.) know the plan, with the Default and eventual "Martial Law". But I wonder if Foreign Troops will be called in for the "Default Ceiling Crash". Just wondering if they now have the Fema Facilities to incarcerate individuals or "put their lights out"
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UNANIMOUS CONSENT NEEDED

Any deal to raise the debt limit by August 2nd will now require "unanimous consent" in the Senate. Senate rules allow members unlimited debate time, barring an agreement to contrary or a "cloture" vote to end debate.
A cloture vote requires not just 60 votes, but also a one-day "ripening" period, and still allows for 30 hours of debate after the vote. If one Senator unhappy with the plan currently being negotiated by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and President Barack Obama objected to ending debate, a final vote would not be held until Wednesday — assuming cloture is filed by 11:59 pm today.


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3:33pm | Will Democrats get on board?
Liberal Democrats are already lining up in opposition to the compromise being worked out between President Obama and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to raise the debt limit and cut the deficit.

Progressive Caucus Chairman Rep. Raúl Grijalva (R-AZ) released a statement opposing the plan.

“This deal is a cure as bad as the disease," he said. "I reject it, and the American people reject it. The only thing left to do now is repair the damage as soon as possible.”



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Anyhow if phony Congress & Senate & phony Republicans & Democrats, say they are going to pass the "Debt Ceiling" believe me, if it passes now, it will be rejected 5 minutes before Midnight on August 2, 2011, so it goes into Default, and will be in Default for 3 months thereafter. Cause we are truly run by a hidden secret gated invisible Govt. as always have been

And once this mess is done (after 3 months of hell), take FDR off the dime, and put him on Government issued Toilet Paper, with his picture on each individual Toilet Sheet.
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3:33pm | Will Democrats get on board?
Liberal Democrats are already lining up in opposition to the compromise being worked out between President Obama and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to raise the debt limit and cut the deficit.

Progressive Caucus Chairman Rep. Raúl Grijalva (R-AZ) released a statement opposing the plan.

“This deal is a cure as bad as the disease," he said. "I reject it, and the American people reject it. The only thing left to do now is repair the damage as soon as possible.”



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D-AZ, surely?
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4:26pm | Democratic leadership on board?
The Huffinton Post's Sam Stein tweets: breaking: Dem leaders are all in pelosi's office, i'm told. and everyone has signed off on deal. waiting on Boehner.


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4:17pm | Conservatives also upset with deal.
Heritage Action for America says it will oppose the Obama-McConnell compromise.


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4:13pm | Rand Paul "probably" won't object to unanimous consent to speed up vote:
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) tell POLITICO they will probably not object to a unanimous consent agreement to fast track a debt limit deal.

“I think we have to have a 60-vote margin, and I probably won’t object if there’s a time agreement,” Paul told POLITICO.


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4:10pm | Confidence.
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) on Fox News:

"When I talked to … Mitch McConnell a few hours ago, he was more confident of a deal than I've seen him be."



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LIVE COVERAGE: Liberals, Conservatives roiled by debt deal before it's even finalized. [link to read.bi]
há 16 minutos
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I better grab some cash tomorrow morning
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BreakingNews Breaking News
Reid and Dem leaders emerge from meeting in Pelosi's office, say they hope to have announcement and vote tonight - NBC News
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They are making a deal as we type. 3 trillion in cuts, ceiling raised till after the election, commission, balanced budget vote, etc. The dems are selling out their liberal wing.

A good chunk of the tea party is determined to default, therefore the lib dems are selling out to peel away enough repub votes to get the deal done,

You know the conservatives are going to get most of what they want because of the tea partiers acting like economic suicide bombers, and you know what, the tea party will NOT be happy in the end. Reason,

No DEFAULT
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Lol...get that bunk from thinkprogress.org?
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No, I read it in a crystal ball. Dang.

Way i see it is, that there is going to be a whole lot of selling out the far left and right, and all this is theatre to justify throwing the far left and right under the bus.

The tea party with their hard line changed the dynamic of the debate and bigger cuts than anyone would have imagined a year ago are about to go into effect.

That would have been a miracle a year ago, yet the tea party is disappointed.

As anyone who reads here can see, the sentiment for a default, a true change is really strong, yet the political establishment is not stupid, not going to lose the first battle,

And this is not the end of the story by any means
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5:03pm | Defense cuts as the sticking point?
There are multiple reports that the hold-up to a deal is the amount of defense spending cuts that would take effect if the bipartisan "Super Committee" cannot reach an agreement on spending cuts.

NBC's Luke Russert reports Democrats want 3% cuts to the defense budget, while the GOP wants 2% or less.

Defense hawks are reportedly very concerned by the cuts.



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Are they voting agian today, what time if so?
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LIVE COVERAGE: Breaking: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has signed off on debt limit deal. [link to read.bi]
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The holdup on announcing the deal appears to be uncertainty of how House gets to 216.
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