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HELP!!!! CAR GUYS!!! 2003 KIA SPECTRA HAS NO FIRE/SPARKS

 
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HELP!!!! CAR GUYS!!! 2003 KIA SPECTRA HAS NO FIRE/SPARKS
Need help 2003 KIA Spectra has no fire.
Im in deep you know what. This is my wifes car. Check engine light was on , said it was a cylynder 4 misfire. I changed the spark plugs and didn't disconnect battery or follow firing order 1342. Started car and it idled very rough and was vibrating alot. Died when I took it out of park and now it wont start at all. Turns over all day but it wont start.

I went back and fourth with the new spark plugs and back with the old ones and nothing. I hooked a couple of my spark plugs up to the wires and touched the end to the engine block , cranked it and no sparks. hooked it up to a scanner tool and it gave the code p1780. They said at auto parts store that it pointed to the crank and or cam censors.

Kia said by not following firing order and disconneting battery I could have shorted/fried spark plugs and anything with a wire. If I put in a new crank censor do i have to take all of the wires and coils off of the spark plugs in firing order and put them back on in same order before or after i put the crank censor on to get them to work? Or can I just leave evreything as is and just put the crank censor on and start it up?

What would cause me to not have fire? Also will it screw up the firing order if I take out both wires from the igntion coils (one wire on each side of both coils) before I pull the wires and coils that are hooked to the spark plugs? Also can I plug the wires back into each side of the coils before I plug the coils and wires back on the spark plugs? Will that screw up firing order? Does anyone think just by not folowing firing order it would cause the car to not start or short somthing out? I'm in a tough bind and I would really appriciate any help. Thanks
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same thing happend with my bros old grand am, replaced the crank sensor in the tranny/bellhousing area i think

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Replace the whole thing.
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same thing happend with my bros old grand am, replaced the crank sensor in the tranny/bellhousing area i think

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More often the electronic ignition unit (the module that converts 13.8VDC, crankshaft position sensor signals, and PCM control signals into the high voltage) This is sometimes called the electronic spark distributor. They often mount them right to the engine block so they get all the block heat and that aids in failure.

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Did you check the ignition and ecm fuse?
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if all the coils are wired in the correct firing order nothing would have shorted out.I would say the cam pos sensor is the cause.
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Need help 2003 KIA Spectra has no fire.
Im in deep you know what. This is my wifes car. Check engine light was on , said it was a cylynder 4 misfire. I changed the spark plugs and didn't disconnect battery or follow firing order 1342. Started car and it idled very rough and was vibrating alot. Died when I took it out of park and now it wont start at all. Turns over all day but it wont start.

I went back and fourth with the new spark plugs and back with the old ones and nothing. I hooked a couple of my spark plugs up to the wires and touched the end to the engine block , cranked it and no sparks. hooked it up to a scanner tool and it gave the code p1780. They said at auto parts store that it pointed to the crank and or cam censors.

Kia said by not following firing order and disconneting battery I could have shorted/fried spark plugs and anything with a wire. If I put in a new crank censor do i have to take all of the wires and coils off of the spark plugs in firing order and put them back on in same order before or after i put the crank censor on to get them to work? Or can I just leave evreything as is and just put the crank censor on and start it up?

What would cause me to not have fire? Also will it screw up the firing order if I take out both wires from the igntion coils (one wire on each side of both coils) before I pull the wires and coils that are hooked to the spark plugs? Also can I plug the wires back into each side of the coils before I plug the coils and wires back on the spark plugs? Will that screw up firing order? Does anyone think just by not folowing firing order it would cause the car to not start or short somthing out? I'm in a tough bind and I would really appriciate any help. Thanks
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You have thrown out the muffler bearing, and probably the clutch bearing crank shaft.
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Re: HELP!!!! CAR GUYS!!! 2003 KIA SPECTRA HAS NO FIRE/SPARKS
P1780 is the neutral switch code for the transmission...should be under $20 and it ts found on top of the transmission. As for the no spark, check the coil packs...you probably fried one or more of them. If it was me, I'd buy ONE and check it in each spark plug position considering they are around $50 each. I wouldn't mess with the cam/crank sensors
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I have gone back and fourth from the old spark plugs from the new several times without disconnecting battery or following firing order 1342. Could that have mabey shorted evreything out?
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Re: HELP!!!! CAR GUYS!!! 2003 KIA SPECTRA HAS NO FIRE/SPARKS
Need help 2003 KIA Spectra has no fire.
Im in deep you know what. This is my wifes car. Check engine light was on , said it was a cylynder 4 misfire. I changed the spark plugs and didn't disconnect battery or follow firing order 1342. Started car and it idled very rough and was vibrating alot. Died when I took it out of park and now it wont start at all. Turns over all day but it wont start.

I went back and fourth with the new spark plugs and back with the old ones and nothing. I hooked a couple of my spark plugs up to the wires and touched the end to the engine block , cranked it and no sparks. hooked it up to a scanner tool and it gave the code p1780. They said at auto parts store that it pointed to the crank and or cam censors.

Kia said by not following firing order and disconneting battery I could have shorted/fried spark plugs and anything with a wire. If I put in a new crank censor do i have to take all of the wires and coils off of the spark plugs in firing order and put them back on in same order before or after i put the crank censor on to get them to work? Or can I just leave evreything as is and just put the crank censor on and start it up?

What would cause me to not have fire? Also will it screw up the firing order if I take out both wires from the igntion coils (one wire on each side of both coils) before I pull the wires and coils that are hooked to the spark plugs? Also can I plug the wires back into each side of the coils before I plug the coils and wires back on the spark plugs? Will that screw up firing order? Does anyone think just by not folowing firing order it would cause the car to not start or short somthing out? I'm in a tough bind and I would really appriciate any help. Thanks
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I know what the problem is...it's a kia.
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I just googled: Kia spectra wont start...suggest you do the same....

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crank sensor, ignition control module, or coil packs. not necessarily in that order. It can be a pain in the ass tracking an ignition problem. Yes it could be neutral safety switch, but then it wouldnt turn over either.
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Re: HELP!!!! CAR GUYS!!! 2003 KIA SPECTRA HAS NO FIRE/SPARKS
I just googled: Kia spectra wont start...suggest you do the same....

'02 Spectra won't start after running for a while - Kia Forum‎ - Jul 16, 2011
My 2002 Kia spectra wont start- Kia Forum‎ - Sep 20, 2010
2000 Kia Spectra will not start P1700 error code - Kia Forum‎ - Jun 18, 2010
2002 KIA SPECTRA sutck in park and wont start - Kia Forum‎ - Feb 17, 2010

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Yeah dude I posted this same thread on a Kia fourm and in 2 days got nothing. Lots more know how here. Thanks evreyone. Keep it coming.
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First off, you need to get a manual at the library if they have it, and find out the firing order and make sure the wires in the right spot. If you have the wires mixed up, it's going to be rough idle with alot of vibration. Don't bother trying to guess where the wires went and switch back and forth, been there done that. Get the manual and find out what the proper position for the wires is and work from there.

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