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How Cuba overcame its economic downturn

 
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How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
After the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuba, which was heavily depending on overpriced sugar exports to its communist allies because of the international embargo, suffered from a severe lack of pretty much everything.

After the collapse of COMECON (the economic organisation of Communist States) Cuba’s agricultural system teetered on the verge of collapse. Imports vanished; there were no fertilizers, animal feed, tools, seed, wire, animal vaccines, fuel for farm machinery or irrigation systems, tyres, batteries, spare parts and the few agricultural necessities that were produced on the island dried up due to lack of raw materials, electricity to run factories, vehicles for distribution or petrol with which to operate them.
 Quoting: cuba agriculture


[link to www.cubaagriculture.com]

No support from the USSR meant no tractor, no spare parts for agricultural devices, no fertilizers, nothing. Hunger resulted when the mechanization of its agriculture halted.

But the island found a solution, in urban gardening and community gardening:

Now, just by looking across the table, I saw that Fernando Funes had since gained the twenty pounds back. In fact, he had a little paunch, as do many Cuban men of a certain age. What happened was simple, if unexpected. Cuba had learned to stop exporting sugar and instead started growing its own food again, growing it on small private farms and thousands of pocket-sized urban market gardens—and, lacking chemicals and fertilizers, much of that food became de facto organic. Somehow, the combination worked. Cubans have as much food as they did before the Soviet Union collapsed. They're still short of meat, and the milk supply remains a real problem, but their caloric intake has returned to normal—they've gotten that meal back.

In so doing they have created what may be the world's largest working model of a semi-sustainable agriculture, one that doesn't rely nearly as heavily as the rest of the world does on oil, on chemicals, on shipping vast quantities of food back and forth. They import some of their food from abroad—a certain amount of rice from Vietnam, even some apples and beef and such from the United States. But mostly they grow their own, and with less ecological disruption than in most places. In recent years organic farmers have visited the island in increasing numbers and celebrated its accomplishment. As early as 1999 the Swedish parliament awarded the Organic Farming Group its Right Livelihood Award, often styled the “alternative Nobel,” and Peter Rosset, the former executive director of the American advocacy group Food First, heralded the “potentially enormous implications” of Cuba's new agricultural system.
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
bump For the allotments of Cuba..
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
bump For the allotments of Cuba..
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Thanks on behalf of cuba's allotments

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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
Thanks OP for a most interesting article. That may be the answer for countries undergoing economic problems.
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
Cuba overcame.

People should look to their story for guidance in the upcoming upheavals.
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Thanks OP for a most interesting article. That may be the answer for countries undergoing economic problems.
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TY! hf

I believe that too. I think cooperation is actually a much better way to deal with a collapse situation than locking yourself up in your basement with your canned food and your guns.

Not saying everything will be rose-buds but we stand a much better chance to survive (if needed) when we stick by each other and support our local communities.

Prepare - Teach - Share


peace
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
Cuba overcame.

People should look to their story for guidance in the upcoming upheavals.
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hf
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bump For the allotments of Cuba..
 Quoting: oRbZ


Thanks on behalf of cuba's allotments

bump
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If I came into some real money, I would take it to Cuba and help build the place up in terms of being independent. Cuba deserves decent people with money to move there and make things better for the people. I would like to go there now for medical care. The doctors here let you drop between the cracks all the time....at least, they have for me.
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Facinating country I was there 1999 and they where still getting plenty of rich Europeans for medical tretment.According to a school teacher I spoke to he said their medical treatment was the best in world.
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Facinating country I was there 1999 and they where still getting plenty of rich Europeans for medical tretment.According to a school teacher I spoke to he said their medical treatment was the best in world.
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I heard that too, I'm going to look it up
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Thank You!!

Positivity is what we need, and alternatives
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
bump There is a lesson to be learned here.....organic,sustainable, local food production will sooner or later become mandatory for the continued survival of humanity.
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bump There is a lesson to be learned here.....organic,sustainable, local food production will sooner or later become mandatory for the continued survival of humanity.
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bump There is a lesson to be learned here.....organic,sustainable, local food production will sooner or later become mandatory for the continued survival of humanity.
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"Urban gardening and urban agriculture are ideas that are becoming increasingly important as our world becomes more urbanized and developers transform agriculturally fertile lands and open spaces into sprawling suburbs. This site is dedicated to those environmentally-conscious urban dwellers who want to create a green corner devoted to nature in their own home, or who want to support community-based gardening or agriculture projects in their neighborhood."

[link to www.urbangardeninghelp.com]

hf
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Thanks OP for a most interesting article. That may be the answer for countries undergoing economic problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493602


bump
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AG farming on small and medium scales will be the next big boom in the USA.....out of necessity.
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Now you guys know the reason why the CIA wanted the US government to destroy Cuba back when Kennedy was president. Cuba teached their people how to live on their own without depending on money. Now all of a sudden, Cuba isn't doing too bad after all ah dear Americans?
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Thanks so much for the pin. I hope this info will help some people think of alternatives to the way we live now. I say let it all go down and start anew.

Someone on another thread said:

"be prepared... and be stubbornly optimistic"


I pray for us all, Godspeed everyone


hf
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It is part of the plan.
bump There is a lesson to be learned here.....organic,sustainable, local food production will sooner or later become mandatory for the continued survival of humanity.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

So they will have no problems as long 80 % of their food can be imported .

Cuba's major exports are sugar, nickel, tobacco, fish, medical products, citrus, and coffee;
While I am sure the elite will still like these luxury items , there are only so many elite to go around to buy this shit .

It will all be just fine after 80 % of the population dies off
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Haha, yeah, Cuba "overcame" its economic "downturn." Sure dude.
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Be prepared to turn your entire yard into a garden. Purchase seeds, containers and the like since we'll all be growing vegetables in our homes this winter.
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How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
 Quoting: Slow


FYI....

Cuba did not overcome it's economic downturn....it just learned how to cope with it and get by.


....just like Obama is FORCING the USA into.
We will have no choice but to COPE and get by.

castro

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There is more to the economic picture than agriculture although important to the Cuban economy there are still many growing issues to contend with before their economic issues are resolved.

Cuba to Cut State Jobs in Tilt Toward Free Market

Cuba will lay off more than half a million state workers and try to create hundreds of thousands of private-sector jobs, a dramatic attempt by the hemisphere's only Communist country to shift its nearly bankrupt economy toward a more market-oriented system.

[link to online.wsj.com]

Cuba Economy 2011

The average Cuban's standard of living remains at a lower level than before the downturn of the 1990s, which was caused by the loss of Soviet aid and domestic inefficiencies. Since late 2000, Venezuela has been providing oil on preferential terms, and it currently supplies about 100,000 barrels per day of petroleum products. Cuba has been paying for the oil, in part, with the services of Cuban personnel in Venezuela including some 30,000 medical professionals.

[link to www.theodora.com]

Raul Castro Says Cuban Economy Will Be Tweaked but Remain Socialist

Castro also touched on the Achilles heel of the island's faltering economy: low productivity. "Without the increase in efficiency and productivity, it is impossible to raise salaries, increase exports and replace imports, grow in the production of foodstuffs and in point of fact, to sustain the enormous social spending of our socialist system."

Nevertheless, Castro said, "No one will be abandoned to his fate." The socialist state will provide the necessary aid for a "dignified life." The caveat was that this social assistance would be for those "who really are unable to work and are the sole support of their family."

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Seeds will be priceless.
for the hour of doom is at hand; neither gold nor treasure can buy a reprieve.
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Facinating country I was there 1999 and they where still getting plenty of rich Europeans for medical tretment.According to a school teacher I spoke to he said their medical treatment was the best in world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494672


Yes, the best medical treatment in the world if you have MONEY YOU STUPID USEFUL IDIDOT!!!
The poor die without mercy in this shit hell island!!!
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Re: How Cuba overcame its economic downturn
For a country to be strong, they must adopt somewhat of an isolationist stance and become as independent of the global economy as possible - as Cuba did because it was forced on them.

The global economy benefits no one but the rich. In developed countries it puts people out of jobs, it encourages over-consumption because the imported goods are cheap and it starts to live more and more off of slave labor from other countries and the standard of living decreases.

In third-world countries and less developed countries, the people are drawn to the newly built factories for better wages than living off the land - but in the end up working as slaves and their countryside goes feral because no one is working it for food, the mega-food corps move in and buy up land and now control the land and seed, etc. -- therefore the food supply, prices rise and workers go into debt paying rent, and buying ever increasing costly food. The people of the less developed countries become more and more dependent on the corporations and will ultimately suffer more when the corps skip town and run from Mexico to China then to India, etc. chases the cheapest labor. Infrastructures start to crumble because the rapidly built buildings, roads, etc. to house and facilitate the newly urban workers and factories were slip-shot and once the corps gone, there is decline.

Only the rich make money off a global economy, it turns the people of all nations into dependent, slave labor.