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Three CME`s Likely to have major IMPACT on earth...also impact STEREO A, Mars and Mercury/MESSENGER

 
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So is this going to be a massive earthquake or??

It sounds bad but I don't really understand
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Alot of things could happen but I would hate to speculate on what the experts expect to happen or what could happen..I`m waiting to see if it goes mainstream or not..

it sure doesn`t hurt to be prepared..extra water, food ect..I sure don`t want to scare people with this thread but I`ve never heard them say something so strongly on Spaceweather..communication sattelites could be a major deal also...hopefully more folks will chime in

GPS knockout would be a major deal for navigation systems..planes ect...
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Kind of interesting that we are having major financial doom today, tomorrow space doom = martial law? I may be jumping the gun here but it sounds like the pieces are falling together. Global financial crisis mixed with power grid outages/satellite issues could be the perfect storm. Just sayin......
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I'm bringing my bike to work tomorrow.
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I am staying at home tomorrow, in the celler and under the pool table.
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Some one please tell me the time frame for this in est...
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5 star op

the next 24 hours should get interesting...
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GPS knockout would be a major deal for navigation systems..planes ect...
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How will governments react if their military sats are blinded?
hiding
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how would you react under total blackout? No more news, no information about the outside world whatsoever...
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Enjoy life.


EXACTLY. Well, depending on where you are of course. I'm in LA which is like a volcano ready to go off under the slightest prick.

I'm finally getting up into the mountains myself this month.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Look for large earthquakes. Those are large CME's coming right at us....more doom....

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Kind of interesting that we are having major financial doom today, tomorrow space doom = martial law? I may be jumping the gun here but it sounds like the pieces are falling together. Global financial crisis mixed with power grid outages/satellite issues could be the perfect storm. Just sayin......
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don't forget about the raw milk doom too!

5a
Total Protonic Reversal...
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I put up these graphs last year to have a zoomable chart of realtime data... feel free to play with them and use them in the future if you are a space geek like myself..

[link to www.xtrmweb.com]
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"the 1859 solar superstorm or the Carrington Event. It can be assumed that a massive Coronal mass ejection (CME), associated with the flare, was launched from the Sun and reached the Earth within eighteen hours — a trip that normally takes three to four days"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I don't think this one is as strong... but it happened
middle of the night last night and will be here by
tomorrow morning... ???
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Kind of interesting that we are having major financial doom today, tomorrow space doom = martial law? I may be jumping the gun here but it sounds like the pieces are falling together. Global financial crisis mixed with power grid outages/satellite issues could be the perfect storm. Just sayin......
 Quoting: TrixieMama


don't forget about the raw milk doom too!

5a
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DOOM ON BABY!!!!!
clappa
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I'm bringing my bike to work tomorrow.
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I'm bringing my tomato plants in.
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FRESH REAL DOOM !!

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"the 1859 solar superstorm or the Carrington Event. It can be assumed that a massive Coronal mass ejection (CME), associated with the flare, was launched from the Sun and reached the Earth within eighteen hours — a trip that normally takes three to four days"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I don't think this one is as strong... but it happened
middle of the night last night and will be here by
tomorrow morning... ???
 Quoting: boceph


I`ve also had a link at one time that stated when sunspots are at 60 degrees west it is like a slingshot when the shoot out a cme...I even received an e-mail from the author of that link explaining it in detail...I will look for it..

sun123


Here is the professor`s e-mail from Berkly..now I will look for the article on how CME`s can speed up when launched from this point..

Protons are electrically charged particles, so they travel in helical paths around the magnetic field; they follow the magnetic field. The magnetic field is carried by the solar wind as it flows out radially from the Sun. The Sun rotates, so the solar wind (and therefore the magnetic field) traces a spiral path, similar to water from a rotating lawn sprinkler, . For the rotation rate of the Sun and the typical speed of the solar wind, the spiral that hits the Earth originates at about 60 degrees west on the Sun.

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Some one please tell me the time frame for this in est...
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JPL has a time conversion tool......

So when I used it I discovered that 13:55 UT translates to 08:55 EST with a 7 hour window on either side. Basically it will be anywhere between 01:00 and 15:00 tomorrow.

Do I even NEED to remind you about the tomato plants?
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"the 1859 solar superstorm or the Carrington Event. It can be assumed that a massive Coronal mass ejection (CME), associated with the flare, was launched from the Sun and reached the Earth within eighteen hours — a trip that normally takes three to four days"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I don't think this one is as strong... but it happened
middle of the night last night and will be here by
tomorrow morning... ???
 Quoting: boceph


Actually there was one on Aug 1, one yesterday, and 2 today .. one in middle of the night and one this AM around 8 am . So this is 4 CME's arriving at once and seems they pushed the date of arrival up as the 2 today moved them along .. sorta like the info on the carrington event, that one was 2 at once , the 2nd pushing the first ahead of scheduled arrival .
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We will be just fine... as it was posted, and reviewed on GLP, the GLP effect will come in action, dissabling all the DOOM.
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Look for large earthquakes. Those are large CME's coming right at us....more doom....

clappa
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Was thinking the same thing myself.
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okay...UT is 6 hours ahead of est...7:55 Am Aug 5th plus minus 7 hours

so that's 1am to 3pm Est tomorrow
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I'm bringing my bike to work tomorrow.
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I'm bringing my tomato plants in.
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HAHAHAHAHAH!

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 08/04/2011 11:42 AM

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I'm bringing my bike to work tomorrow.
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I'm bringing my tomato plants in.
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Me too, and my neighbors...just to be on the safe side.
Everyone needs to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer.
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Some one please tell me the time frame for this in est...
 Quoting: Acid Cat!


JPL has a time conversion tool......

So when I used it I discovered that 13:55 UT translates to 08:55 EST with a 7 hour window on either side. Basically it will be anywhere between 01:00 and 15:00 tomorrow.

Do I even NEED to remind you about the tomato plants?
 Quoting: AnonymooseCanadian


No... I mean yes anon

Oh and thanks for doing the math for my lazy butt
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Well I've always been intrigued by the scientists/researchers who subscribe to the theory that these CME's create volcanic and tectonic activity on our earth, so this blast coming our way should definitely cause a major EQ or volcanic eruption (or both) if this theory is correct (and I am inclined to believe it is).

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Not done yet either, still strong probability for more M class flares thru today up to the 6th.
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Not done yet either, still strong probability for more M class flares thru today up to the 6th.
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or X class flare
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Not done yet either, still strong probability for more M class flares thru today up to the 6th.
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Maybe even an X ?

Thought I saw that somewhere...
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Not done yet either, still strong probability for more M class flares thru today up to the 6th.
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or X class flare
 Quoting: icphotons


Sshhh.
cool2
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Anyone can share a list of the biggest CME's till now?
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Not done yet either, still strong probability for more M class flares thru today up to the 6th.
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or X class flare
 Quoting: icphotons


Sshhh.
cool2
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haha can't forget about 1263.
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batterys: check
bottled water: check
dry foods: check
candles : check
cat food: check
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"the 1859 solar superstorm or the Carrington Event. It can be assumed that a massive Coronal mass ejection (CME), associated with the flare, was launched from the Sun and reached the Earth within eighteen hours — a trip that normally takes three to four days"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I don't think this one is as strong... but it happened
middle of the night last night and will be here by
tomorrow morning... ???
 Quoting: boceph


I`ve also had a link at one time that stated when sunspots are at 60 degrees west it is like a slingshot when the shoot out a cme...I even received an e-mail from the author of that link explaining it in detail...I will look for it..

sun123


Here is the professor`s e-mail from Berkly..now I will look for the article on how CME`s can speed up when launched from this point..

Protons are electrically charged particles, so they travel in helical paths around the magnetic field; they follow the magnetic field. The magnetic field is carried by the solar wind as it flows out radially from the Sun. The Sun rotates, so the solar wind (and therefore the magnetic field) traces a spiral path, similar to water from a rotating lawn sprinkler, . For the rotation rate of the Sun and the typical speed of the solar wind, the spiral that hits the Earth originates at about 60 degrees west on the Sun.
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>



Found the article on what can speed up a CME/protons..

Back to the drawing board: If a CME didn't accelerate the protons, what did?

"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."

He explains: The sun's magnetic field spirals out into the solar system like water from a lawn sprinkler. (Why? The sun spins like a lawn sprinkler does.) The magnetic field emerging from solar longitude 60o W bends around and intersects Earth. Protons are guided by magnetic force fields so, on January 20th, there was a superhighway for protons leading all the way from sunspot 720 to our planet.

"We've been hit by strong proton storms before, but [never so quickly]," says solar physicist Robert Lin of UC Berkeley. "Proton storms normally develop hours or even days after a flare."This one began in minutes.




[link to science.nasa.gov]

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