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Origins of reincarnation

 
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That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. chickenegg

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. dictate I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! pinochio

How old is your soul? hmm

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad

That's what my 'Native American' friend says: That if we are bad, we get to come back as a rock(so that we have to observe for centuries), until we can get a chance at it again!

And he claims that they are going by the "Oral Traditions"!

But I can only tell you what my Teacher taught me: And He said "We NEVER go from 8th grade back to 7th grade").......we may not get to advance to 9th grade for awhile, but we never go backwards!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You don't go in any upward or downward order. This thing you call Life, isn't a INDIVIDUAL learning experience, it's a COLLECTIVE learning experience. hugsss What you learn, WE all learn but to make matters worse, the person you are playing this time around, has played their part thousands of times, your soul is just the unlucky soul stuck in that person's part this time around. ImSowwie

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 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


learning experience? how do you learn if most of us would have no memory of a past life?
 Quoting: Neesie


That's kind of the whole point, the purpose of living is to relearn who we are. It wouldn't make sense if we already knew things from before, though in ways we do. But part of the experience is remembering that.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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"In 553 AD the Council of Constantinople outlawed belief in Reincarnation."
Do i have to say more?^^^

EDIT: Oh btw... the first councile was held in 359 AD.
 Quoting: gerrylix

Now isn't THAT interesting: That somebody felt the need to "outlaw" a concept!?!

You should look at that very closely Neesie!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


why is that ObeWayneKenobe, just what is it that i am supposed to be outlawing?
 Quoting: Neesie


It's not you, it's THEM. What he is getting at, is you should look into WHO did the outlawing and WHY.

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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You NEVER come back "LESS" than what you have already achieved!
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That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. chickenegg

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. dictate I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! pinochio

How old is your soul? hmm

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad

That's what my 'Native American' friend says: That if we are bad, we get to come back as a rock(so that we have to observe for centuries), until we can get a chance at it again!

And he claims that they are going by the "Oral Traditions"!

But I can only tell you what my Teacher taught me: And He said "We NEVER go from 8th grade back to 7th grade").......we may not get to advance to 9th grade for awhile, but we never go backwards!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


bazinga!!!
 Quoting: Neesie


The pattern is that matter is the beginning, it´s "hell" and "heaven" is the end. But the way there is much more different then the story from religions.

Just look at our materialism centered world. It is hell. You can choose to evolve or not.
There is in every religion a core truth.
Jesus told you some aspects as how to leave hell and not get caught by the devil aka matter.#

Education of the soul is what most people don´t have the time to because they have to earn money there whole life.
And when you have no time it´s clearly more easy to just enter a religion and let them tell you what you have to think.

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Yes, we know that christianity is not the ONLY religion that gleefully and happily supports slavery.

So what?

The Hindus' belief in racial reincarnation is an error. There are many errors in their belief, just as there are in christianity.

But they share some errors, like the outright support of racial slavery.
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Boys are better?




It shocks most Westerners to find out that the doctrine of reincarnation is, as shown above, racist. Yet another shock to Westerners is that the doctrine of reincarnation is also sexist. It is always preferable to be reincarnated as a man than a woman. Women do not have the same status as men. Buddhist nuns have to keep 311 laws, but monks have only 227. Since women are considered inferior, they have 84 more laws to control their flesh than men!
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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OP might be reincarnated as a cockroach....just saying .
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You NEVER come back "LESS" than what you have already achieved!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. chickenegg

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. dictate I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! pinochio

How old is your soul? hmm

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ahuh
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Dew you know how many thousands of planets WE have called Earth exist? hmm

Dew you really think you are the first soul to play you? chuckle

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The Oracle: Well, come on. I ain't gonna bite ya. Come around here, and let me have a look at ya. My goodness, look at you! You turned out all right, didn't you? How do you feel?
Neo: I, uh...
The Oracle: I know you're not sleeping. We'll get to that. Why don't you come and have a sit this time?
Neo: Maybe I'll stand.
The Oracle: Well, suit yourself.
Neo: I felt like sitting.
The Oracle: I know. So. Let's get the obvious stuff out of the way.
Neo: You're not human, are you?
The Oracle: Well it's tough to get any more obvious than that.
Neo: If I had to guess, I'd say you're a program from the machine world. So is he.
The Oracle: So far, so good.
Neo: But if that's true, that can mean you are a part of this system, another kind of control.
The Oracle: Keep going.
Neo: I suppose the most obvious question is, how can I trust you?
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Neo: D'you already know if I'm going to take it?
The Oracle: Wouldn't be much of an Oracle if I didn't.
Neo: But if you already know, how can I make a choice?
The Oracle: Because you didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made it. You're here to try to understand why you made it. I thought you'd have figured that out by now.
Neo: Why are you here?
The Oracle: Same reason. I love candy.
Neo: But why help us?
The Oracle: We're all here to do what we're all here to do. I'm interested in one thing, Neo, the future. And believe me, I know - the only way to get there is together.


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Another problem of reincarnation is one of mathematics. Somebody has to die in order to be reincarnated. Since there were less people in the past than now, who is being reincarnated to account for the current population explosion among humans? With more than 6 billion people now on planet Earth, where are all the souls coming from? They would have to be created. So we come back to the Bible’s explanation that God created the first couple in His image and gave them His ability to create more children. None are recycled.
 Quoting: Neesie

Well, I think that's a very good point Neesie: Except that not everyone who is "reincarnating" to planet Earth, is coming back from planet Earth........there's a whole galaxy/galaxies of us out there!
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and we know this because...........?
 Quoting: Neesie


There are "Star People" amongst quarantined humanity, even angels in bodies.

Plus, the Ancient Egyptians believed that soul evolution progressed from the mineral, to the vegetable and then to the animal... and then on to the human. So many human beings alive today could have been animals in their past lives, many could have been "aliens" from other star systems, and many could have been angels.
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That's what my 'Native American' friend says: That if we are bad, we get to come back as a rock(so that we have to observe for centuries), until we can get a chance at it again!

And he claims that they are going by the "Oral Traditions"!

But I can only tell you what my Teacher taught me: And He said "We NEVER go from 8th grade back to 7th grade").......we may not get to advance to 9th grade for awhile, but we never go backwards!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You don't go in any upward or downward order. This thing you call Life, isn't a INDIVIDUAL learning experience, it's a COLLECTIVE learning experience. hugsss What you learn, WE all learn but to make matters worse, the person you are playing this time around, has played their part thousands of times, your soul is just the unlucky soul stuck in that person's part this time around. ImSowwie

Ribbit vacation_smiley
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learning experience? how do you learn if most of us would have no memory of a past life?
 Quoting: Neesie


That's kind of the whole point, the purpose of living is to relearn who we are. It wouldn't make sense if we already knew things from before, though in ways we do. But part of the experience is remembering that.
 Quoting: ajk


The most intelligent people on earth can be the most evil too. Wisdom in the heart is not equal to knowledge.

Therefor you don´t need knowledge after you are born.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." A. Einstein

Ultima Cumaei venit iam carminis aetas;
magnus ab integro saeclorum nascitur ordo.
iam redit et Virgo, redeunt Saturnia regna,
iam nova progenies caelo demittitur alto.
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That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. chickenegg

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. dictate I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! pinochio

How old is your soul? hmm

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad

That's what my 'Native American' friend says: That if we are bad, we get to come back as a rock(so that we have to observe for centuries), until we can get a chance at it again!

And he claims that they are going by the "Oral Traditions"!

But I can only tell you what my Teacher taught me: And He said "We NEVER go from 8th grade back to 7th grade").......we may not get to advance to 9th grade for awhile, but we never go backwards!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You don't go in any upward or downward order. This thing you call Life, isn't a INDIVIDUAL learning experience, it's a COLLECTIVE learning experience. hugsss What you learn, WE all learn but to make matters worse, the person you are playing this time around, has played their part thousands of times, your soul is just the unlucky soul stuck in that person's part this time around. ImSowwie

Ribbit vacation_smiley
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


learning experience? how do you learn if most of us would have no memory of a past life?
 Quoting: Neesie


Law of Chance:

Everything happens as it always happens.

Law of Destiny:

The Law of Chance applies even when Free Will is involved.

What you call Life, isn't the learning experience. That has hhappened thousands of times, what's to learn is coming up soon. chuckle It's the answer to the question WE've asked. secret2kill4

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You don't go in any upward or downward order. This thing you call Life, isn't a INDIVIDUAL learning experience, it's a COLLECTIVE learning experience. hugsss What you learn, WE all learn but to make matters worse, the person you are playing this time around, has played their part thousands of times, your soul is just the unlucky soul stuck in that person's part this time around. ImSowwie

Ribbit vacation_smiley
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


learning experience? how do you learn if most of us would have no memory of a past life?
 Quoting: Neesie


That's kind of the whole point, the purpose of living is to relearn who we are. It wouldn't make sense if we already knew things from before, though in ways we do. But part of the experience is remembering that.
 Quoting: ajk


The most intelligent people on earth can be the most evil too. Wisdom in the heart is not equal to knowledge.

Therefor you don´t need knowledge after you are born.
 Quoting: gerrylix


I don't get it?

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Another problem of reincarnation is one of mathematics. Somebody has to die in order to be reincarnated. Since there were less people in the past than now, who is being reincarnated to account for the current population explosion among humans? With more than 6 billion people now on planet Earth, where are all the souls coming from? They would have to be created. So we come back to the Bible’s explanation that God created the first couple in His image and gave them His ability to create more children. None are recycled.
 Quoting: Neesie

Well, I think that's a very good point Neesie: Except that not everyone who is "reincarnating" to planet Earth, is coming back from planet Earth........there's a whole galaxy/galaxies of us out there!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Not to mention some people may choose not to come back after a while. We don't have to reincarnate forever, the choice is entirely up to us.
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Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
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You don't go in any upward or downward order. This thing you call Life, isn't a INDIVIDUAL learning experience, it's a COLLECTIVE learning experience. hugsss What you learn, WE all learn but to make matters worse, the person you are playing this time around, has played their part thousands of times, your soul is just the unlucky soul stuck in that person's part this time around. ImSowwie

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 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


learning experience? how do you learn if most of us would have no memory of a past life?
 Quoting: Neesie


That's kind of the whole point, the purpose of living is to relearn who we are. It wouldn't make sense if we already knew things from before, though in ways we do. But part of the experience is remembering that.
 Quoting: ajk


The most intelligent people on earth can be the most evil too. Wisdom in the heart is not equal to knowledge.

Therefor you don´t need knowledge after you are born.
 Quoting: gerrylix


Evil is a Concept based on Perception. What if your Perception is wrong? hmm

Order, via Control, breeds Chaos. But Control, via Order, isn't Control!

There is ZERO Chaos in the Universe and an Infinite amount on this planet. Figure out WHY and you will be on the way to the truth about what this is all about. thumbs

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Another problem of reincarnation is one of mathematics. Somebody has to die in order to be reincarnated. Since there were less people in the past than now, who is being reincarnated to account for the current population explosion among humans? With more than 6 billion people now on planet Earth, where are all the souls coming from? They would have to be created. So we come back to the Bible’s explanation that God created the first couple in His image and gave them His ability to create more children. None are recycled.
 Quoting: Neesie

Well, I think that's a very good point Neesie: Except that not everyone who is "reincarnating" to planet Earth, is coming back from planet Earth........there's a whole galaxy/galaxies of us out there!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Not to mention some people may choose not to come back after a while. We don't have to reincarnate forever, the choice is entirely up to us.
 Quoting: ajk

Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


To kNot come back has never occurred! lol22

That is too funny! lmaoroll

When you "get off this merry-go-round" all you want to dew is get back on! dancingtrio

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Another problem of reincarnation is one of mathematics. Somebody has to die in order to be reincarnated. Since there were less people in the past than now, who is being reincarnated to account for the current population explosion among humans? With more than 6 billion people now on planet Earth, where are all the souls coming from? They would have to be created. So we come back to the Bible’s explanation that God created the first couple in His image and gave them His ability to create more children. None are recycled.
 Quoting: Neesie

Well, I think that's a very good point Neesie: Except that not everyone who is "reincarnating" to planet Earth, is coming back from planet Earth........there's a whole galaxy/galaxies of us out there!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Not to mention some people may choose not to come back after a while. We don't have to reincarnate forever, the choice is entirely up to us.
 Quoting: ajk

Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


In due time........

Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Origins of reincarnation

Why did Buddha teach reincarnation? Technically, Buddha didn’t. Reincarnation originated from Buddha’s former religion Hinduism, which is a religious tradition based on the caste system. The four Hindu castes range in colour from white (at the top) to red to brown to black (at bottom). Hindus believe that being born with dark skin is the result of bad karma, but being born with white skin is a sign of good karma. Just as evolution served to justify many whites’ persecution of Australian Aborigines (who were tagged as less ‘evolved’), so too reincarnation serves to justify the racial, social and economic stratification of the East.

The word ‘Aryan’, which Nazis used to refer to a ‘master race’, actually comes from a Sanskrit word meaning ‘noble’; as in arya sat yani in Sanskrit or ariya sat see in Thai, meaning the ‘four noble truths’. Adolf Hitler adopted his racist plans from two anti-Christian influences: evolution and Hinduism. Nearly all Hindus and Buddhists who believe in reincarnation desire to come back in the next life with whiter skin, as Aryans are at the top of the caste system.


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For many in our culture, the penchant towards evolutionary thinking (coupled with the spiritual hunger we all have, being created in God’s image) means that they are increasingly toying with mystical and ‘spiritual’ notions such as reincarnation, ideas that have a long history of justifying social stratification and racial inequalities.





Westerners are usually shocked to find this out. Westerners generally tend to believe in the equality of the races because of their Christian background. This is despite the negative effects of evolutionary indoctrination tending otherwise. Though many in the West are no longer practising Christians, yet we have had the truth of Creation taught for many centuries. The abolition movements of the 18th and 19th century were led by creation-believing Christians like William Wilberforce. The world owes much of its present freedom to Christ, Christians and creationism (all men are created equal by God). If, as evolutionary thinking erodes the authority of the Bible in people’s minds, we allow our Christian heritage to be stripped away from our Western schools and government and law, we will lose the very foundation upon which Christians struggled to lay our society, with all its blessings.
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That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. :chickenegg:

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. :dictate: I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! :pinochio:

How old is your soul? hmm

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Are you a Scientologist perchance? Sounds very like their philosophy.
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Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
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I agree with you, accept: My Teachers taught me that "animals" don't have "souls" yet! That they are an extension of our spirits........they get "soul" later on, as they move up the ladder!

But then, I suppose THAT'S a discussion for a different thread! lol

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Well, I think that's a very good point Neesie: Except that not everyone who is "reincarnating" to planet Earth, is coming back from planet Earth........there's a whole galaxy/galaxies of us out there!
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Not to mention some people may choose not to come back after a while. We don't have to reincarnate forever, the choice is entirely up to us.
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Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
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In due time........

Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
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All life, that you call life, exists because there's a soul at the controls. dance6

The only true Life is your Soul! tiphatsmiley All other life is Artificial and created by WE the Souls to play games in/with. chess So your friend that remembers being a tiger, believe her and ask her if she still remembers how to pounce? chuckle

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That is kNot true, my friend! naughty

What you come back as, depends on your assignment. You can be Elvis Presley this time around, then a worm on the next run and after being eaten by the chicken, you can be a chicken the next time. chickenegg

There's no upward order, but rather, placement and placement always depends on what parts you've played already. Like me, I'm a young soul at 14 billion earth years old, so I haven't played as many parts as a soul that's been around for trillions of earth years. dictate I have many parts still left to play and I can't wait! pinochio

How old is your soul? hmm

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Are you a Scientologist perchance? Sounds very like their philosophy.
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ZERO Religion! naughty

I only believe what I know to be the truth, by questioning everything and using logic to filter out the BS, that, or a club. beatsmiley

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Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
 Quoting: ajk

I agree with you, accept: My Teachers taught me that "animals" don't have "souls" yet! That they are an extension of our spirits........they get "soul" later on, as they move up the ladder!

But then, I suppose THAT'S a discussion for a different thread! lol
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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener

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Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
 Quoting: ajk

I agree with you, accept: My Teachers taught me that "animals" don't have "souls" yet! That they are an extension of our spirits........they get "soul" later on, as they move up the ladder!

But then, I suppose THAT'S a discussion for a different thread! lol
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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener

Ribbit kickmesign
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peace There is no spoon!!
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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener
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There is no getting through to my 'Frog friend'........lol ;)
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Not to mention some people may choose not to come back after a while. We don't have to reincarnate forever, the choice is entirely up to us.
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Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


In due time........

Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
 Quoting: ajk


All life, that you call life, exists because there's a soul at the controls. dance6
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Yes exactly, someone has to run the body. Reminds me of this video I saw, can't find it now, but the basic idea was that the soul never dies, just the body. Without the soul inhabiting it, the body would not exist. Without US, none of this would exist. Think about that.....we are more powerful than we know.
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Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener
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There is no getting through to my 'Frog friend'........lol ;)
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If you will ever wake up from this dream you're living, to see the truth, you'll realize you've been played! pinochio

You can be played or be a player, the choice is yours! chess

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Yes, that is correct! Thank you for bringing that up! Isn't it time we all get off this merry-go-round? blobr
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In due time........

Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
 Quoting: ajk


All life, that you call life, exists because there's a soul at the controls. dance6
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Yes exactly, someone has to run the body. Reminds me of this video I saw, can't find it now, but the basic idea was that the soul never dies, just the body. Without the soul inhabiting it, the body would not exist. Without US, none of this would exist. Think about that.....we are more powerful than we know.
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You have no clue what all you missed in that movie! chuckle

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Ps: WE are more powerful than you can imagine! ura

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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener
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There is no getting through to my 'Frog friend'........lol ;)
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If you will ever wake up from this dream you're living, to see the truth, you'll realize you've been played! pinochio

You can be played or be a player, the choice is yours! chess

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You mean I can either be on the stage(playing), or out in the audience?

Cause without the audience to clap for the players, there would be no need for a performance!?! ;)
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In due time........

Oh and here's another thing too. We cannot discount the fact that souls are not just human but animal as well. One can live as a man or woman in one life, or a dog in another. Just because they were in a human body once, doesn't mean it's all they can be.

I had a friend in college who insisted she was a tiger in a past life and had memories of it. At the time, I dismissed it being Christian still then. Now though......I wouldn't doubt if she was right. So don't think the human soul is all there is here, cause that isn't the case.
 Quoting: ajk


All life, that you call life, exists because there's a soul at the controls. dance6
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Yes exactly, someone has to run the body. Reminds me of this video I saw, can't find it now, but the basic idea was that the soul never dies, just the body. Without the soul inhabiting it, the body would not exist. Without US, none of this would exist. Think about that.....we are more powerful than we know.
 Quoting: ajk




You have no clue what all you missed in that movie! chuckle

Ribbit hunter

Ps: WE are more powerful than you can imagine! ura
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Would it be possible to get more insight and less riddles?

huffy

that would be great, cause i like your style applause2
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There is no Ladder! spankbutt

There is no sPoon! neenerneener
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There is no getting through to my 'Frog friend'........lol ;)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


If you will ever wake up from this dream you're living, to see the truth, you'll realize you've been played! pinochio

You can be played or be a player, the choice is yours! chess

Ribbit goofytoad
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad

You mean I can either be on the stage(playing), or out in the audience?

Cause without the audience to clap for the players, there would be no need for a performance!?! ;)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


William Shakespeare - All the world's a stage (from As You Like It 2/7)

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.


You are already on stage and God is the One watching and She thinks you are one funny player! lol22

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THIS ONE IS A REAL IDIOT!

(FUCKING IDIOT, go read about yoni)
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Zen, that doesn't help just to call people names......you need to detach yourself from you emotions, and return with input of worth! imho
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Retard, read the previous comments.

Why do you guys smoke and sit on these forums, its not a good idea.
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All life, that you call life, exists because there's a soul at the controls. dance6
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Yes exactly, someone has to run the body. Reminds me of this video I saw, can't find it now, but the basic idea was that the soul never dies, just the body. Without the soul inhabiting it, the body would not exist. Without US, none of this would exist. Think about that.....we are more powerful than we know.
 Quoting: ajk




You have no clue what all you missed in that movie! chuckle

Ribbit hunter

Ps: WE are more powerful than you can imagine! ura
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Would it be possible to get more insight and less riddles?

huffy

that would be great, cause i like your style applause2
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But I like Riddles:

Thread: Riddle We This! (Page 11)

Riddle We This:

What can exist ONLY if it exists but it ONLY exists as something else? hmm

Riddle We This:

If 1 + 2 always equals 4 and 2 + 3 always equals 6 and 3 - 2 always equals ZERO then what does 1 + 3 always equal and WHY? math_smiley

Riddle We This:

We are Born on this Earth and possibly elsewhere's and We Live and We Evolve and We even Replicate but We are not a Sanctioned Lifeform. Who/What are We? chickenegg

Riddle We This:

I am ROUND but I partially come from a SQUARE and it doesn't MATTER which WAY you GO, the ANSWER is ALWAYS the SAME because I am EVERYTHING & NOTHING. Who/What am I? chess


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THIS ONE IS A REAL IDIOT!

(FUCKING IDIOT, go read about yoni)
 Quoting: Zen Kobane

Zen, that doesn't help just to call people names......you need to detach yourself from you emotions, and return with input of worth! imho
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Retard, read the previous comments.

Why do you guys smoke and sit on these forums, its not a good idea.
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Well first off: I DON'T SMOKE!

And secondly, was that your attempt to return with input? lol





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