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WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
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You tried, but those types won't listen until the doom is at their front door and it's too late.
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Hopefully escrow won't close....
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My in-laws are the same way. Everything is fine according to them & we are "out there."

I just say you are in for a rude awakening.


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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
Honestly OP if he isn't going to listen there isn't much you can do.

My sister has 4 children and I've showed her everything.. from Elenin alignments to 401k outlooks..

She won't withdraw her 401k, which isn't worth much anyway.

Won't stock food.

I asked her on Sept 26 to *please* just take the day off work since she has so many accumulated days. Take it off and relax and watch the news. Nope, I'm just a conspiracy nut.
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You should curb stomp him.
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You guys, everything IS fine.

I think this is a decent time to buy a home, especially if you can actually afford it. He is right about his 401k in that it wont be touched BEFORE the public money, he will have time to deal with it if need be.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
My in-laws are the same way. Everything is fine according to them & we are "out there."

I just say you are in for a rude awakening.


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Can somebody help me explain him in simple layman words - simplifying chaos - thats where may i need to improve. Its not only me other friends as well. Iam a core GLP person for years now. I can't believe which links/threads I will show him. Once I tried and the first thing - he said was 'Don't believe a damn word u read on this website' is what he said…I kind of laughed.. he is smart as i said but its soooo annoying
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You shouldn't believe nearly anything you read here. This is a role playing site for crazy people who like to feel important. It says so right at the bottom of the page.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
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Why don't you let him live his own damn life? That, and most of his points are correct.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
You guys, everything IS fine.

I think this is a decent time to buy a home, especially if you can actually afford it. He is right about his 401k in that it wont be touched BEFORE the public money, he will have time to deal with it if need be.
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You realize the public money *HAS* been touched? Just because checks are still going out doesn't mean it's still there. President Obama's "checks may not go out" speech should have clued everyone in on that.
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You guys, everything IS fine.

I think this is a decent time to buy a home, especially if you can actually afford it. He is right about his 401k in that it wont be touched BEFORE the public money, he will have time to deal with it if need be.
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Careful, voices of reason are NOT going to be taken well in this thread.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
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Why don't you let him live his own damn life? That, and most of his points are correct.
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Seriously.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
My in-laws are the same way. Everything is fine according to them & we are "out there."

I just say you are in for a rude awakening.


:angeldemon:
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Can somebody help me explain him in simple layman words - simplifying chaos - thats where may i need to improve. Its not only me other friends as well. Iam a core GLP person for years now. I can't believe which links/threads I will show him. Once I tried and the first thing - he said was 'Don't believe a damn word u read on this website' is what he said…I kind of laughed.. he is smart as i said but its soooo annoying
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You are wasting your time. Some people can only see optimism. Some people only see doom.
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Unfortunately/fortunately he has helped me in countless instances and i have done the same. but, I cannot stand watching him not doing anything…I have moved most of the stuff in multiple places international and also converted to precious metals, not everything but a portfolio …bug out bags [which he still lol about]
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You can only do what you can do. Not everyone is ready to accept reality. Take care of your own as best you can, and let those who don't want to open their eyes discover things the hard way.
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Re: WTF !!! **** Cant convince Friend over drinks. Thinks everything is fine - Help he is planning to make MAJOR life changes !!! ****
Bug out bags are a good idea, but not because the world is going to end or the proverbial shit is going to hit the fan. When that happens it wont do you much good no matter what you have in there.

Bug out bags are a good idea because minor natural disasters happen all the time and its a good idea to be prepared for whatever may reasonably happen to you in your area. No reason to go overboard though.
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It's called Normalcy Bias, and 98% of the population is afflicted with it.

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He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893


1. How is the government going to do that? They have already taxed to the point of insanity, borrowed money from forgein nations, and dug into *ALL* the revenue they have. Our only hope is that no other markets begin looking appealing.

2. Everybody will not have a major issue. Some folks faired much better during the Great Depression than others and actually profited.

3. Public money has already been dipped and double dipped since Clinton was in office. Obama reaffirmed that with his "checks may not go out" speech.

4, 5, & 6- Unless his job is in the very most BASIC of nessicary skills- food, shelter, water, collecting, doctor.. ext his job is not secure. Nobodys is. Corps, state governments, ext all lay off the second they get spooked.
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He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893


1. How is the government going to do that? They have already taxed to the point of insanity, borrowed money from forgein nations, and dug into *ALL* the revenue they have. Our only hope is that no other markets begin looking appealing.


2. Everybody will not have a major issue. Some folks faired much better during the Great Depression than others and actually profited.

3. Public money has already been dipped and double dipped since Clinton was in office. Obama reaffirmed that with his "checks may not go out" speech.

4, 5, & 6- Unless his job is in the very most BASIC of nessicary skills- food, shelter, water, collecting, doctor.. ext his job is not secure. Nobodys is. Corps, state governments, ext all lay off the second they get spooked.
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Are you kidding me? Taxes are near the lowest they've ever been in decades.
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You should curb stomp him.
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Punch him in the Neck!!!!!
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BAM!!! REALITY HITS YOU HARD BRO!!!!!!
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It's called Normalcy Bias, and 98% of the population is afflicted with it.

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Iam just thinking if its really that big..then is that 2% planned enough. If doom comes even if lets say ur working in the daytime..and a major catastrophe happens where u can't even reach ur bug out bag…thats entirely a different story when u have the chance…at least ur prepared
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He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893


1. How is the government going to do that? They have already taxed to the point of insanity, borrowed money from forgein nations, and dug into *ALL* the revenue they have. Our only hope is that no other markets begin looking appealing.


2. Everybody will not have a major issue. Some folks faired much better during the Great Depression than others and actually profited.

3. Public money has already been dipped and double dipped since Clinton was in office. Obama reaffirmed that with his "checks may not go out" speech.

4, 5, & 6- Unless his job is in the very most BASIC of nessicary skills- food, shelter, water, collecting, doctor.. ext his job is not secure. Nobodys is. Corps, state governments, ext all lay off the second they get spooked.
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Are you kidding me? Taxes are near the lowest they've ever been in decades.
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EVERY report shows that jobs will start to vanish if taxes were raised. If it were that simple, they would have done that Aug 3.
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He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893


1. How is the government going to do that? They have already taxed to the point of insanity, borrowed money from forgein nations, and dug into *ALL* the revenue they have. Our only hope is that no other markets begin looking appealing.


2. Everybody will not have a major issue. Some folks faired much better during the Great Depression than others and actually profited.

3. Public money has already been dipped and double dipped since Clinton was in office. Obama reaffirmed that with his "checks may not go out" speech.

4, 5, & 6- Unless his job is in the very most BASIC of nessicary skills- food, shelter, water, collecting, doctor.. ext his job is not secure. Nobodys is. Corps, state governments, ext all lay off the second they get spooked.
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Are you kidding me? Taxes are near the lowest they've ever been in decades.
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EVERY report shows that jobs will start to vanish if taxes were raised. If it were that simple, they would have done that Aug 3.
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This was one of his points. That govt can't just raise taxes overnight or else there will be revolt.
they are reducing spending and will slowly pay off debt…may be it will take years..but govt won't tax people to death. simply does not add up and his point is..if US does this..what will happen to other countries which are US backed/based.
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You shouldn't believe nearly anything you read here. This is a role playing site for crazy people who like to feel important. It says so right at the bottom of the page.
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Of course the obvious rebuttal is "and why should I believe anything you say either, then?" chuckle
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He is planning to buy a home now - at these economic times

His points are
1. Govt will bounce back - 'car the entire world is revolving around US economy
2. If there is a major issue then everybody is world will have major issue
3. His 401 k is good but won't take any action since he thinks Govt will not touch his private 401k and only touch public money like social security
4. Home loans are at unprecedented 3.x% and he is planning to go big
5. His job is strong - so thinks everything is fine.
6. He is very smart, very but lacks in economical calculations/analyzing

I tried but gave up - few more also tried but he brushed them aside as conspiracies - man ! i feel can't do anything to him - u know those folks who are stubborn to their core skin even though u may love them dearly and they do the same to u who would do anything for u…!!!

God help !!!
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In 2010 governments added around 76 metric tons of gold to their reserves. So far in 2011 they have added about 210 metric tons of gold. The gold added this year is worth nearly the entire GDP of the United States.

Nothing has fundamentally changed since the last three bubbles burst except for the fact that our debt is now past 100% of our GDP. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid take up 43 cents out of every dollar we spend, TODAY and costs are expected to rise dramatically now that the baby boomers have started collecting.

The system is unsustainable, period. If he can't see past these undeniable facts, he doesn't deserve help.
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You shouldn't believe nearly anything you read here. This is a role playing site for crazy people who like to feel important. It says so right at the bottom of the page.
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Of course the obvious rebuttal is "and why should I believe anything you say either, then?" chuckle
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