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Message Subject Last minute tips for parents when the SHTF
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Buggin' Out Considerations: A shelter

Most people who plan to bugout haven't planned their shelter. A shelter is the FIRST consideration to make following the rule of three. In any extreme situation you cannot survive for more than:
3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food.

All of these are provisionally based upon conditions. In Winter, three hours is a LONG time and hypothermia can easily kill you. It will certainly give you frostbite, and if happens to feet, then you're as good as dead because traveling is so reduced. See previous postings on hypothermia and dealing with frostbite.

Yes people survive frostbite today because of advanced medicine. In a collapse there won't be any medicine other than what YOU provide.

Most people don't use common sense when planning their clothing and shoes for dealing with bugging out. See previous postings on those topics. Many will have not broken in shoes for children, spouses, and themselves and this alone will end up injuring them, and perhaps killing them in the end.

If someone is sedentary, and it may be nigh impossible but has happened historically, then one can live up to three months under unusual conditions without food. It all depends upon core temperature... which means some sheltering was happening, obesity, weather, and a profound amount of luck (most likely mercy from the Source).

In Winter there are limited amounts of ways to make shelter. I've discussed shelter before either a short term debris hut (mostly in Autumn based upon high amounts of naturally occurring insulation and materials), digging in a shelter (requires hand tools, skill, lumber for a framework, intelligence, drainage issues), a snow shelter (intelligence, carbon monoxide issues, ability). See many previous postings on doing that.

For most people bugging out, if you're headed to a location, then most likely you're spending many nights out on the road and using a very light tent. Here's a link that describes the issues and the materials and styles to chose one. There are many kinds of tents, buy from a place that fits your budget and ability and fits YOUR GOALS.
[link to www.rei.com]

For most people bugging out with no planned eventual location as an end goal, you will die attempting to vaguely get to safety.

It should be off road and camouflaged with an appropriate tarp that either copies the existing woodland pattern for that season or is pure white to blend in if snow is on the ground perhaps brown-black or green or straw colored based upon prevailing conditions. Many tents are bright colored for aesthetics and to locate it in the wild when tired and coming back to camp from the woodlands for visibility reasons. This is all bad in a collapse. Otherwise it will be seen and since millions may be bugging out and not prepared it will be a resource for them to steal. In effect, you'll become their store to get supplies or resupply.

You are NOT going to simply rough it. As my friends in New York say, “Forget about it.” NO NO NO. It takes a lot of practice to build a shelter successfully or find a sycamore tree (see previous postings) that will work. Even if you do, then it may rain, snow very hard, can't find firewood, blah blah blah.

A book is a good thing. A book in a backpack means you don't know how to do something perfectly. This is no time to be reading a book if bugging out. You need light to read, quite a bit, and this means giving away your position. Dumb, very dumb post-collapse. Don't imagine that you'll wing it.

Children can easily setup a tent with training. They also can build debris shelters. They can only do it based upon how well you teach them and much practice.

In Winter very few people work at their peak efficiently, but rather struggle, complain, and moan and groan and this noise carries for miles.

Most likely you're hurriedly hiking 13+ miles a day as a goal, but realistically five miles a day over elevated terrain and dealing with things like alder wood thickets, high grasses that you can't see through, attempting stealth, water crossings, all of which mean a commensurate reduction of speed. The amount of distance gained is based upon hunger, thirst, firewood, supplies, and looking for all three plus building shelter.

The preponderance of people hiking don't have much stamina and a non-hiker has almost no stamina.

It's very likely that avoiding detection will greatly reduce speed and change your direction and trail.

This means that you need to save time in evaluating a campsite based upon criteria:
Defensibility, elevated position, cover, firewood (at odd times in a Dakota hole if possible to bury the evidence but may be impossible due to frozen ground. You may try to hide the fire with rock walls.), water resupply, foraging, tiredness, etc.

Having a tent eliminates much of that if it can be put up fast (only if trained and practiced, not theoretical), done quietly, and camouflaged.

If it's heavy, that's less food or water you can carry(half of your bugout gear weight), plus tools. Appalachian trail backpackers will cut their toothbrush handles off and burn book pages to lighten their packs. What do you think you'll do when not used or ill-trained to carrying a backpack and dealing with bruises and blisters?

If practiced and hardened elite hikers do something then halve or quarter what they can do and expect that out of yourself and strong family members.
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