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I have seen some pretty wild shit relating to aliens and a fictitious St. Germain, to a lawsuit involving banksters, farmers, the Supremem Court, and a supposed decision with implications that would be so sweeping that it wouldn't just result in US Economic Reform, but Reforms in the entire global economy. I would love to see all the FACTS posted, then we can make up crazy conspiracies after the fact. Any of u GLP'ers game? Or does someone at least have a good enough story to quell the curiousity? Either way it sounds like global debt forgiveness is in the works since NO ONE can conceivably pay off any national deficit within a lifetime. And why the fuck is Obama promising more AID to Africa when we can't even pay to run our own infrastructure? I am willing to make a racist sounding comment if there is logic to dispel the racism with straight FACT. How can we help someone else when we are asking for an extension on our own debt. It doesn't add up and the smell of SHIT is driving me up the wall. We are all downwind and yet no one seems to know what pile it comes from except illuminati and TPTB. Anyone got some REAL insight?

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what was the question again?
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what was the question again?
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Good call. Anyone have FACTS on what NESARA really is? And as a side note, how the fuck is Obama promising aide to Africa. I think it all relates so I asked it together.
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NESARA packets will be delivered. But only to those of you who filled out the US Census properly.
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Guess I made a lot of assumptions on background knowledge. NESARA is National Economic Security and Reformation Act, and I have read facts stating that it was proposed to be enacted due to some major lawsuit farmers started against banks foreclosing on lands and funds they produced out of thin air. The supreme court ruled in favor of the farmers and the decision was so far-reaching in it's implications that it basically entailed the reformation of the US AND the global economies (since we are the reserve currency for the world) and that supposedly 9-11 was staged to keep NESARA from kicking off. Of course no links but the correlations made too much sense to ignore. I would love to see some FACTS and as of yet I have not been able to find any. Yet I see the term thrown around whenever it looks the SHTF for the economy, which is a lot recently.
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NESARA packets will be delivered. But only to those of you who filled out the US Census properly.
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K, so when was this actually announced? Plus I missed the last census since the last time I remember them doing a census was when I was a child and I am now almost 30. Let me guess, don't call us we'll call you ;)
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It was planned to be real, it did not materialize, thanks to your Bushes who ripped the funds. That's the short story. Much more than that. The Dove died in terrible depression and anger over the failure.
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Guess I made a lot of assumptions on background knowledge. NESARA is National Economic Security and Reformation Act, and I have read facts stating that it was proposed to be enacted due to some major lawsuit farmers started against banks foreclosing on lands and funds they produced out of thin air. The supreme court ruled in favor of the farmers and the decision was so far-reaching in it's implications that it basically entailed the reformation of the US AND the global economies (since we are the reserve currency for the world) and that supposedly 9-11 was staged to keep NESARA from kicking off. Of course no links but the correlations made too much sense to ignore. I would love to see some FACTS and as of yet I have not been able to find any. Yet I see the term thrown around whenever it looks the SHTF for the economy, which is a lot recently.
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NESARA and he FARM CLAIMS were two very different programs. NOT RELATED AT ALL.
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Guess I made a lot of assumptions on background knowledge. NESARA is National Economic Security and Reformation Act, and I have read facts stating that it was proposed to be enacted due to some major lawsuit farmers started against banks foreclosing on lands and funds they produced out of thin air. The supreme court ruled in favor of the farmers and the decision was so far-reaching in it's implications that it basically entailed the reformation of the US AND the global economies (since we are the reserve currency for the world) and that supposedly 9-11 was staged to keep NESARA from kicking off. Of course no links but the correlations made too much sense to ignore. I would love to see some FACTS and as of yet I have not been able to find any. Yet I see the term thrown around whenever it looks the SHTF for the economy, which is a lot recently.
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NESARA and he FARM CLAIMS were two very different programs. NOT RELATED AT ALL.
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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Guess I made a lot of assumptions on background knowledge. NESARA is National Economic Security and Reformation Act, and I have read facts stating that it was proposed to be enacted due to some major lawsuit farmers started against banks foreclosing on lands and funds they produced out of thin air. The supreme court ruled in favor of the farmers and the decision was so far-reaching in it's implications that it basically entailed the reformation of the US AND the global economies (since we are the reserve currency for the world) and that supposedly 9-11 was staged to keep NESARA from kicking off. Of course no links but the correlations made too much sense to ignore. I would love to see some FACTS and as of yet I have not been able to find any. Yet I see the term thrown around whenever it looks the SHTF for the economy, which is a lot recently.
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NESARA and he FARM CLAIMS were two very different programs. NOT RELATED AT ALL.
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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Germain's trust is very real, and you would not believe the "god given" wealth of this world that is NOT being used. There was a grand plan and what the thugs went to to destroy it is a story you might not believe, if you don't know how money works. Research OITC. IF you can find anything real about it. Hopefully the links on my site about it will come up. It was destroyed completely last fall. Chine now owns the Federal Reserve system. They also got their hand on the wealth Marcos had given to the world which never materialized either. Long sad story.

the dark shits are going to have to fully removed from the planet. coming up soon. I would suggest if the links to OITC and Whistleblower take you to MY site, that you go back to the very first article under WhistleBlower and OITC, there is an interesting chart of the worlds resources there, including the Germain World Trust.
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Guess I made a lot of assumptions on background knowledge. NESARA is National Economic Security and Reformation Act, and I have read facts stating that it was proposed to be enacted due to some major lawsuit farmers started against banks foreclosing on lands and funds they produced out of thin air. The supreme court ruled in favor of the farmers and the decision was so far-reaching in it's implications that it basically entailed the reformation of the US AND the global economies (since we are the reserve currency for the world) and that supposedly 9-11 was staged to keep NESARA from kicking off. Of course no links but the correlations made too much sense to ignore. I would love to see some FACTS and as of yet I have not been able to find any. Yet I see the term thrown around whenever it looks the SHTF for the economy, which is a lot recently.
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NESARA and he FARM CLAIMS were two very different programs. NOT RELATED AT ALL.
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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Germain's trust is very real, and you would not believe the "god given" wealth of this world that is NOT being used. There was a grand plan and what the thugs went to to destroy it is a story you might not believe, if you don't know how money works. Research OITC. IF you can find anything real about it. Hopefully the links on my site about it will come up. It was destroyed completely last fall. Chine now owns the Federal Reserve system. They also got their hand on the wealth Marcos had given to the world which never materialized either. Long sad story.

the dark shits are going to have to fully removed from the planet. coming up soon. I would suggest if the links to OITC and Whistleblower take you to MY site, that you go back to the very first article under WhistleBlower and OITC, there is an interesting chart of the worlds resources there, including the Germain World Trust.
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So Germain did exist? It was not just a generalized term for "ascended master" like the word Christ was actually Greek for "anointed one" not actually his last name? Very interested. I started this thread so now it is my due diligence to pursue your clues. Hopefully links will follow, unless you beat me to it. Cheers!
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NESARA and he FARM CLAIMS were two very different programs. NOT RELATED AT ALL.
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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Germain's trust is very real, and you would not believe the "god given" wealth of this world that is NOT being used. There was a grand plan and what the thugs went to to destroy it is a story you might not believe, if you don't know how money works. Research OITC. IF you can find anything real about it. Hopefully the links on my site about it will come up. It was destroyed completely last fall. Chine now owns the Federal Reserve system. They also got their hand on the wealth Marcos had given to the world which never materialized either. Long sad story.

the dark shits are going to have to fully removed from the planet. coming up soon. I would suggest if the links to OITC and Whistleblower take you to MY site, that you go back to the very first article under WhistleBlower and OITC, there is an interesting chart of the worlds resources there, including the Germain World Trust.
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So Germain did exist? It was not just a generalized term for "ascended master" like the word Christ was actually Greek for "anointed one" not actually his last name? Very interested. I started this thread so now it is my due diligence to pursue your clues. Hopefully links will follow, unless you beat me to it. Cheers!
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yes he existed and still exists, just not walking this plane anymore. I know him personally. NESARA was his dream. it failed. I would place the links, except some mod here made it so my website changes to "jew are great" Website is abund@nthope dot net. Put an "a" for the @ But it should show on google fine. NESARA was part of the 2nd coming process and it was to be expanded globally as GESARA.verysadverysadverysad
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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Read REAL scientific literature about "turning lead into gold."

The St. Germaine story is BULLSHIT. Rosicrucians still "produce him" at meetings, and a friend of mine busted them on that, only to have the "enlightened ones" hurl ad hominems at him, calling him "spiritually immature" or some such crap. There is even a "side business" scam of selling "gold-making machines," I kid you not.

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Well the FARM CLAIMS were the only real situations I have read about so I started there. Otherwise the only other info I have is that St. Germain was an alchemist who DID learn to transmute lead to gold and pulled his funds from the banks in 1729 because he realized the bankers were not about humanitarian causes. But that seems like a wishful thinking fairy-tale that will never happen and I am tired of chasing dreams that are just masturbation with hope as the lubricant. I would really like to get to the ground floor of this world and get back to making real strides towards an enjoyable existence that is reserved for the "fortunate" ones.
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Read REAL scientific literature about "turning lead into gold."

The St. Germaine story is BULLSHIT. Rosicrucians still "produce him" at meetings, and a friend of mine busted them on that, only to have the "enlightened ones" hurl ad hominems at him, calling him "spiritually immature" or some such crap. There is even a "side business" scam of selling "gold-making machines," I kid you not.

If you're looking for truth, you won't find it in the St. Germaine crap.
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I KNOW GERMAIN PERSONALLY. YOU DO NOT OBVIOUSLY. He is not as made out to be in the new age crap out there.
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So please don't misinterpret this next part of my query as downplay of the info, as I did indeed look at your links before Google (since it too is controlled) but here is the jumping off point for me. Your site talks about trusts and authorities from Urantia and Nebadon, which as far as I know, are still of legendary status only IE no "physical or historical" proof of these agents. Now, I can follow the conspiracy of the Fed Reserve and the corporatization of the US Gov itself, in fact dude has it all here on this website [link to republicofmissouri.org] so for a 3D tard like me who is open but had not experienced the other realms so many speak, where is the point at which this whole NESARA GESARA story intersects with the current reality most of us are restricted to? Either that or I need to find a good starting point to learn about the astral plane because my mind is asking so many questions and it seems like nobody who isn't hiding in the mountain-tops is willing to talk about it publicly. I can understand why, but if real change is ever going to occur people have to start enlightening the masses. Me being one of them. I grew up in a very traditional "American" environment but I will eventually see it when I am being fooled. I might be slower at it than some, but I see it and I am willing to ask the questions and I am tired hanging on the edge of the scene. I want to jump in and crowd surf right to the front of this bitch and say "what's the big ehfin deal? Money? Power? Status? Is your life really that hollow?" I don't know, people are waking up and I am somewhere in between and I am trying to nail down a starting point but this is the hardest moving target I have evar tried to hit! Thanks again for all the input!
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So please don't misinterpret this next part of my query as downplay of the info, as I did indeed look at your links before Google (since it too is controlled) but here is the jumping off point for me. Your site talks about trusts and authorities from Urantia and Nebadon, which as far as I know, are still of legendary status only IE no "physical or historical" proof of these agents. Now, I can follow the conspiracy of the Fed Reserve and the corporatization of the US Gov itself, in fact dude has it all here on this website [link to republicofmissouri.org] so for a 3D tard like me who is open but had not experienced the other realms so many speak, where is the point at which this whole NESARA GESARA story intersects with the current reality most of us are restricted to? Either that or I need to find a good starting point to learn about the astral plane because my mind is asking so many questions and it seems like nobody who isn't hiding in the mountain-tops is willing to talk about it publicly. I can understand why, but if real change is ever going to occur people have to start enlightening the masses. Me being one of them. I grew up in a very traditional "American" environment but I will eventually see it when I am being fooled. I might be slower at it than some, but I see it and I am willing to ask the questions and I am tired hanging on the edge of the scene. I want to jump in and crowd surf right to the front of this bitch and say "what's the big ehfin deal? Money? Power? Status? Is your life really that hollow?" I don't know, people are waking up and I am somewhere in between and I am trying to nail down a starting point but this is the hardest moving target I have evar tried to hit! Thanks again for all the input!
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K sorry dumb question as you have a website, but there is so much I am trying to get caught up on so if you have a suggested starting point I will greatly appreciate it. If not, I know there are many enthralling threads to entice attention on GLP so not trying to be needy for info but I wouldn't even have this much of a clue if it wasn't for good folks seeking to spread what MSM won't cover so if you come back to this one I eagerly await a hint of the right direction. Thanks again.
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So please don't misinterpret this next part of my query as downplay of the info, as I did indeed look at your links before Google (since it too is controlled) but here is the jumping off point for me. Your site talks about trusts and authorities from Urantia and Nebadon, which as far as I know, are still of legendary status only IE no "physical or historical" proof of these agents. Now, I can follow the conspiracy of the Fed Reserve and the corporatization of the US Gov itself, in fact dude has it all here on this website [link to republicofmissouri.org] so for a 3D tard like me who is open but had not experienced the other realms so many speak, where is the point at which this whole NESARA GESARA story intersects with the current reality most of us are restricted to? Either that or I need to find a good starting point to learn about the astral plane because my mind is asking so many questions and it seems like nobody who isn't hiding in the mountain-tops is willing to talk about it publicly. I can understand why, but if real change is ever going to occur people have to start enlightening the masses. Me being one of them. I grew up in a very traditional "American" environment but I will eventually see it when I am being fooled. I might be slower at it than some, but I see it and I am willing to ask the questions and I am tired hanging on the edge of the scene. I want to jump in and crowd surf right to the front of this bitch and say "what's the big ehfin deal? Money? Power? Status? Is your life really that hollow?" I don't know, people are waking up and I am somewhere in between and I am trying to nail down a starting point but this is the hardest moving target I have evar tried to hit! Thanks again for all the input!
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The material around Urantia and Nebadon is true but not needed for your purpose, as to NESARA etc. If you want to understand something of the wealth of this world, separate from that and find the first piece under my OITC Whistleblower section that will be interesting to you. it has a chart never before given out to the world on the basic trusts etc. Very general but very good. I had material from the now defunct OITC website, and I am afraid it's lost on a deaded computer. Thugs deaded 3 computers in the last year of mine.

WhistleBlower knew however that Dove took the NESARA story a little to far and they did know about the Bushes setting up fund raising schemes and running large trades off of that. Clyde Hood etc were in service to them. The omega funds were in that regard false, or rather created to scam people.

These were traded for a very large amount of profit, and then Germain's team legally confiscated the funds and profits for use under NESARA. It's a terribly complex story, and then the Leo Wanta stuff came into it and then Casper the Friendly ghost over at Bellringers site of FourWinds10.com (now called Truth winds I think). Add POOFNESS and Ben fulford and Christopher Story to the mix.

Big problems with Chinese and CIA all screwing each other. In the end the Chinese have "won" and they aren't going to do any handouts as packies of any sort. Casper the Friendly ghost and Bellringer were in on some Chinese scamming and promising where some expected to rip the Chinese, I think is the story. Now we have the White Hats group. IGNORE THEM ALL BECAUSE NON OF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

So give up on all the packie stories out there. It's a hugely complex issue. We are going to clean up the planet and then more forward.
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So I guess OP, when you see the above post, and add Neil Keenan and Keith scott and unknown and untold others, your thread title is pretty accurate.

What really was hoped to be, was the full funding on my global organization. Folks around the world would apply to carry out mission work the world was badly in need of. That was only part of the mission but an important part. There have been incredible attempts to get these thugs straight and get this planet assisted. it has not been possible. I was provided an account by Germain himself many years ago for the purpose. It was to be stock with precious metals. I had real paper work on that one.

It's not going to happen. so don't let yourself or those around be pulled into it. The planet is going to be cleansed and we reopen for business after stasis and do it right.
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08/09/2011 03:09 AM
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So please don't misinterpret this next part of my query as downplay of the info, as I did indeed look at your links before Google (since it too is controlled) but here is the jumping off point for me. Your site talks about trusts and authorities from Urantia and Nebadon, which as far as I know, are still of legendary status only IE no "physical or historical" proof of these agents. Now, I can follow the conspiracy of the Fed Reserve and the corporatization of the US Gov itself, in fact dude has it all here on this website [link to republicofmissouri.org] so for a 3D tard like me who is open but had not experienced the other realms so many speak, where is the point at which this whole NESARA GESARA story intersects with the current reality most of us are restricted to? Either that or I need to find a good starting point to learn about the astral plane because my mind is asking so many questions and it seems like nobody who isn't hiding in the mountain-tops is willing to talk about it publicly. I can understand why, but if real change is ever going to occur people have to start enlightening the masses. Me being one of them. I grew up in a very traditional "American" environment but I will eventually see it when I am being fooled. I might be slower at it than some, but I see it and I am willing to ask the questions and I am tired hanging on the edge of the scene. I want to jump in and crowd surf right to the front of this bitch and say "what's the big ehfin deal? Money? Power? Status? Is your life really that hollow?" I don't know, people are waking up and I am somewhere in between and I am trying to nail down a starting point but this is the hardest moving target I have evar tried to hit! Thanks again for all the input!
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The material around Urantia and Nebadon is true but not needed for your purpose, as to NESARA etc. If you want to understand something of the wealth of this world, separate from that and find the first piece under my OITC Whistleblower section that will be interesting to you. it has a chart never before given out to the world on the basic trusts etc. Very general but very good. I had material from the now defunct OITC website, and I am afraid it's lost on a deaded computer. Thugs deaded 3 computers in the last year of mine.

WhistleBlower knew however that Dove took the NESARA story a little to far and they did know about the Bushes setting up fund raising schemes and running large trades off of that. Clyde Hood etc were in service to them. The omega funds were in that regard false, or rather created to scam people.

These were traded for a very large amount of profit, and then Germain's team legally confiscated the funds and profits for use under NESARA. It's a terribly complex story, and then the Leo Wanta stuff came into it and then Casper the Friendly ghost over at Bellringers site of FourWinds10.com (now called Truth winds I think). Add POOFNESS and Ben fulford and Christopher Story to the mix.

Big problems with Chinese and CIA all screwing each other. In the end the Chinese have "won" and they aren't going to do any handouts as packies of any sort. Casper the Friendly ghost and Bellringer were in on some Chinese scamming and promising where some expected to rip the Chinese, I think is the story. Now we have the White Hats group. IGNORE THEM ALL BECAUSE NON OF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

So give up on all the packie stories out there. It's a hugely complex issue. We are going to clean up the planet and then more forward.
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Wow OK I have a lot to research. I will definitely be starting by digging thru ur site in detail. Considering that the radiation from Fukishima seems to be everywhere, I see how y'all would see that as a priority. Cleanup the planet is a good call, but once that is over, no doubt we will be back to "where's the money lebowski" and a lot of us will be stuck with "the dude abides". So is there anything I can do besides just trying to be a decent human being in dark times and helping others to do the same? I keep hoping there are Jedis out there swinging lightsabers of knowledge and truth but the illuminati do a great job of making them seem non-existent. Sorry don't want to call wrong attention to something vital to mankind's freedom and happiness, but I am going nuts looking for signs that greedy politicians and banksters have already won. Nah mean!
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In the spirit of the Ancient Astronaut Astronomers (yeah I saw it on History Channel but we all have to begin enlightenment somewhere) I no longer discount myths, legends, prophecies etc based on age or source. They are valuable accounts from a time with a very different vocabulary and world view, and when seen in that light are now surprising evidence of amazing historical and future events!
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08/09/2011 03:13 AM
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and as to the "mix" above, I forgot the famous LEO WANTA. we had everybody trying to steal everything on the promise of fixing everything. there we go! With no intention to fix anything. how's that for a summary!

Oh and his honorable Dr. DAM of OITC, guardian of GOD"S WEALTH on this planet, was busy screwing God's wealth too, made some deals with a few CIA agents (keith scot, neil Keenan amongst them) and blew off a very lucrative secret career of ripping OITC and is now rotting in a Cambodian jail some place.

I have lived through the biggest soap opera of money dominated thugs you could possibly imagine the last several years.
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08/09/2011 03:15 AM
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and as to the "mix" above, I forgot the famous LEO WANTA. we had everybody trying to steal everything on the promise of fixing everything. there we go! With no intention to fix anything. how's that for a summary!
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*sigh* well unfortunately it sounds pretty typical, but I am trying to be thankful for these assholes as their treachery will hopefully inspire real change. I just wish I could see some progress that had a shred of evidence behind it but before I go shooting my mouth off I will read your links. Thanks friend!
Love, Information, Curiosity, Creativity -->Man's Truly Divine Purpose for Life on this Planet!
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In the spirit of the Ancient Astronaut Astronomers (yeah I saw it on History Channel but we all have to begin enlightenment somewhere) I no longer discount myths, legends, prophecies etc based on age or source. They are valuable accounts from a time with a very different vocabulary and world view, and when seen in that light are now surprising evidence of amazing historical and future events!





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