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UK KICKING OFF AGAIN RIGHT NOW 9TH AUGUST

 
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disturbing images still coming in of stuff flaring up again.

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"5000% increase in sales of baseball bats in the last 24 hours...reported by Amazon."

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it's 6,541%

not 5,000
 Quoting: whiterussian


Thats worse! It's quickly rising. I wonder who is buying..The vigilantes or the rioters?
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08/09/2011 01:04 PM
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disturbing images still coming in of stuff flaring up again.

[link to 26.media.tumblr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487495


WTF riot pony the new riot dog?
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Some disorder in Wolverhampton city centre, working hard to bring it under control
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"5000% increase in sales of baseball bats in the last 24 hours...reported by Amazon."

bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

it's 6,541%

not 5,000
 Quoting: whiterussian


Thats worse! It's quickly rising. I wonder who is buying..The vigilantes or the rioters?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499637


Both.. shit is about to hit the fan..
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08/09/2011 01:09 PM
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Martin Luther King also put it brilliantly when he said of rioting:

'The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility
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BBC Radio Manchester reporter Richard Stead says rocks and stones are being hurled at police vans by a large gang of youths in Salford, Manchester. He says there's a stand off between officers and a crowd of between 70 and 80 at Salford Precinct and businesses there have closed early.
 Quoting: BBC live feed


And Thread: No evidence that Mark Duggan opened fire at police officers before he was shot dead, ballistic tests obtained by IPCC say
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08/09/2011 01:11 PM
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Tony is always worth listening to
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08/09/2011 01:12 PM
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disturbing images still coming in of stuff flaring up again.

[link to 26.media.tumblr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487495


Try putting that pony in yer pocket! chuckle
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08/09/2011 01:13 PM
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Yesterday I posted in another thread in response to a post Pabs made where I agreed with their that the conditions and circumstances in the UK made it ripe for riots and without saying so directly that I agreed that the present riots were a result of this. Here is the post I made.

Thread: live cam link - RIOTS IN ENGLAND EXPANDING - suburb Hackney (Page 28)

This wasn't what Pabs was saying. They were only saying that shooting the people would cause more trouble across all ethnic and economic classes should the police start using drastic force to contain the riots.

Although I do agree with Pabs on that issue, these rioters absolutely have NO reason what-so-ever to be causing the damage and mayhem they are now doing to the infrastructure of their own city. Quite frankly, I find their actions criminal and without justification.

If these riots were, in fact, in response to the deteriorated economic and employment conditions in the UK, and the riots were demonstrations demanding the current government actually DO something to fix the problems, I would approve. But senseless destruction of property is criminal - period.

I just wanted to clarify my position on this.
 Quoting: Khim


clappa
Yeah everyone is in agreement that this is pure criminal action.

But if you live in inner city london, you know that these actions on a smaller scale happen frequently the only reason this is getting so much coverage is because its massive.

People are talking about long term solutions to these social unrest situations that breed in pockets of london.

Quickly dismissing it is just a knee jerk reaction from british people who cant COPE with getting a nice up close and personal, display of what inner city london life is like for the poor.

If you live in a shitty estate this shit is daily life.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498343


^ this. People just have no idea what it must be like being bought up in these shit holes. I've worked in some and they truly are dumps. What chances have kids got after generation and generation of shit.

The 'shoot 'em all' brigade need to have a long hard look at themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465956


I was brought up in one of those shitholes and no, I didn't go around setting fire to peoples houses and cars. I did not loot from shops. I did not have the most up to date trainers, mobile/cell phones were not even invented when I was younger, I had no pocket money and ALL my clothes were hand-me-downs. Where I lived, it was slum and the places were eventually deemed unfit for human habitation and knocked down.

Spray the fuckers with hoses, let them get soaking fucking wet and cold and then they will go home.

Stop pandering to them because it is not THEIR possession or livelihoods or threats to their lives that is at stake here.

They tried to set fire to a car with a baby IN it for crying out loud, they have set fire to homes not giving a toss whether people are in there or not. They smash bus windows with passengers still sitting in there.

Do I have sympathy for those doing this? No, I fucking don't, they couldn't care less if anybody is hurt or killed, all they care about is having a good time at the expense of others. I DO however, care about the people on the street that are just trying to live their lives and trying to survive from day-to-day.

All these riots are nothing to do with how downtrodden and poor people are, it is to do with jumping on the bandwagon.

I think they may have met their match with some of the Turkish community though.
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08/09/2011 01:15 PM
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Watford? damned
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lol, Wat-for??
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no Watford, North of London
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08/09/2011 01:17 PM
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The people in 'the west' are not 'free'. We don't have 'freedom'. Our governments are just better at being more covert about our slavery.

We need to take back our life and our country away from the evil fascist system that we are entrapped by, the evil system that enslaves us, offers no us no justice, offers no peace or fairness and destroys our souls.
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08/09/2011 01:17 PM
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nothing on the news, seems to be relativly quite today
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08/09/2011 01:19 PM
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clappa
Yeah everyone is in agreement that this is pure criminal action.

But if you live in inner city london, you know that these actions on a smaller scale happen frequently the only reason this is getting so much coverage is because its massive.

People are talking about long term solutions to these social unrest situations that breed in pockets of london.

Quickly dismissing it is just a knee jerk reaction from british people who cant COPE with getting a nice up close and personal, display of what inner city london life is like for the poor.

If you live in a shitty estate this shit is daily life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487495

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498343


^ this. People just have no idea what it must be like being bought up in these shit holes. I've worked in some and they truly are dumps. What chances have kids got after generation and generation of shit.

The 'shoot 'em all' brigade need to have a long hard look at themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465956


I was brought up in one of those shitholes and no, I didn't go around setting fire to peoples houses and cars. I did not loot from shops. I did not have the most up to date trainers, mobile/cell phones were not even invented when I was younger, I had no pocket money and ALL my clothes were hand-me-downs. Where I lived, it was slum and the places were eventually deemed unfit for human habitation and knocked down.

Spray the fuckers with hoses, let them get soaking fucking wet and cold and then they will go home.

Stop pandering to them because it is not THEIR possession or livelihoods or threats to their lives that is at stake here.

They tried to set fire to a car with a baby IN it for crying out loud, they have set fire to homes not giving a toss whether people are in there or not. They smash bus windows with passengers still sitting in there.

Do I have sympathy for those doing this? No, I fucking don't, they couldn't care less if anybody is hurt or killed, all they care about is having a good time at the expense of others. I DO however, care about the people on the street that are just trying to live their lives and trying to survive from day-to-day.

All these riots are nothing to do with how downtrodden and poor people are, it is to do with jumping on the bandwagon.

I think they may have met their match with some of the Turkish community though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


Funnily enough, I said the same thing about the Iranian 'green coup' protesters which the UK government funded, manipulated and supported.
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The people in 'the west' are not 'free'. We don't have 'freedom'. Our governments are just better at being more covert about our slavery.

We need to take back our life and our country away from the evil fascist system that we are entrapped by, the evil system that enslaves us, offers no us no justice, offers no peace or fairness and destroys our souls.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499670


Agree.
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08/09/2011 01:21 PM
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Tourism promotion body VisitBritain is temporarily withdrawing online advertisement because of #riots, I understand
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08/09/2011 01:21 PM
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I'm so ashamed to be British right now.


Ashamed that millions of fucking brainwashed idiots are enraged at anyone daring to get angry at the establishment.

Seriously, what the fuck has happened to the people of this country.

The students demonstrated recently,because the fees were being put up to unaffordable prices, making sure only the rich get a decent education from now on, but 90% of the WORKING CLASS all sat their and called the students good for nothing layabout scum.

I laugh in all your fucking faces because NOW you can see who the real layabout scum is and NOT the students.
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08/09/2011 01:30 PM
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I'm so ashamed to be British right now.


Ashamed that millions of fucking brainwashed idiots are enraged at anyone daring to get angry at the establishment.
 Quoting: Pabs


How do you know millions are 'enraged at anyone daring to get angry at the establishment' and not instead enraged at anyone who attacks innocent people - including children?

It is not acceptable for peaceful people to be attacked, whether it is by 'the establishment' or someone else.

Those who attack the innocent, or who support said people, are those who should be the most ashamed.
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08/09/2011 01:31 PM
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Tony is always worth listening to

 Quoting: whiterussian


Sounds just like the USA. Police have a very hard job,they don't get paid enough,they work long hours and get very little in the way of vacations from the streets = potential to loose their cool under pressure. They are only human.
I believe it is society's fault for Not supporting the police in a manner that would help them cope with a very tuff job.
People are very quick to blame the rioters, too. They often live in terrible tenements,and have no future prospects for college/jobs/living improvements. Anyone of any color would be discouraged,angery and on the razor's edge in this situation-so don't jump in with the negative racial crap!
People are people. Their circumstances are the only factor that changes!
rantpeaceafrochorus
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08/09/2011 01:34 PM
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There's just not enough to go around when 2 percent of the population uses their born-into-status to aborb 90 percent of the wealth.
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absorb
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08/09/2011 01:40 PM
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Buildings in Salford on fire.
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08/09/2011 01:43 PM
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Leaflets being put through doors in Ealing calling for peaceful patrols..

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08/09/2011 01:45 PM
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Trouble in West Bromwich. Police in full riot gear on scene.
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Reports of planned trouble for Crouch End. Police have advised key holders to shut up business early
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08/09/2011 01:48 PM
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Sky News:

16.000 officers on streets of London tonight.
All Met police leave cancelled.
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08/09/2011 01:49 PM
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just minor aggression and soon it will over

nothing to be worried of this isolated case
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08/09/2011 01:50 PM
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This is all starting smell fishy spock
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I'm so ashamed to be British right now.


Ashamed that millions of fucking brainwashed idiots are enraged at anyone daring to get angry at the establishment.
 Quoting: Pabs


How do you know millions are 'enraged at anyone daring to get angry at the establishment' and not instead enraged at anyone who attacks innocent people - including children?

It is not acceptable for peaceful people to be attacked, whether it is by 'the establishment' or someone else.

Those who attack the innocent, or who support said people, are those who should be the most ashamed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499563


No one is "supporting said ppl" people are discussing root causes, and long term solutions.

People who are not fed everything they think, are capable of such things.

Your TV is not an autocue.
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nothing on the news, seems to be relativly quite today
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too many police outside, but cars are burning again

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