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Iowa GOP Presidential Debate - WATCH LIVE

 
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of course he does!

Paul supports G. Washington's view of isolationism, but if they come at us..they're done
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You are wrong. Ron Paul is not for isolationism. That is a shill statement. This is the wrong place for you. Too many of us know Ron Paul's positions for you to get away with bullshit.

Ron Paul wants us out of the 6 Middle East war fronts. We have no business being there. He wants to shut down the WW2 military bases occupying 135 countries. That has to stop.

He thinks we should mind our own business. He is absolutely right.
He also believes in trading with the other countries. Again, correct.

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as you can see i was corrected above in an earlier post, which i was wrong for using "isolationism" instead of "non-interventionalist"

how is it being a shill when i was trying to say what you just did?
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I don't try to read your mind. If you don't say what you mean, don't expect anyone to respond to what you meant.

You said, isolationism. That marks you as a shill who knows nothing about Ron Paul. If you corrected yourself later, then good.
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thanks for clearing that up for me, ill be able to sleep tonight now...
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HOLY SHIT! On the Fox News page, Ron Paul is winning their online poll by a landslide!

[link to www.foxnews.com]

It's over on the right side of the page with the colorful bars
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No, he hasn't. He has good things to say but comes accross really feeble. I like Cain better. Bachman is a tard. She just needs to go away, far.
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Yes Ron Paul kicks ass. He does it with his brain, which is the best brain in Washington DC, and the best brain on stage tonight.

He is not feeble. Age isn't what you think it is. On the Real Age Factor scale, he's at about 50.

We can't afford a rookie in the White House. We need the experience and brilliant mind of Ron Paul.
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I love what Ron Paul says, and I've donated to him, however, he does seem feeble, sorry, and while his words are strong, the American Public is looking for Samuel L. Jackson and he is projecting the retired district. He needs to be 20 years younger, otherwise, it is not happening, as much as we want it to.
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Nobody is expecting Ron to win, even though he's the most qualified. He's injecting REAL ISSUES into these debates, which is priceless. It's setting Rand up for 2016, at which point, Ron can be Treasury Secretary or VP, or something else big and badass.
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Actually, tens of millions of us expect Ron Paul to win. That will happen because we are going to vote for the brightest candidate, Ron Paul.

We need Ron Paul now. He is the only candidate who can actually take over the reins of this country, and right the ship.
I want the candidate elected who knows the most about the economy, the FRB, foreign policy, and how the government really works. I want the candidate known for truth. I want the candidate who is respected by all of Washington DC and the FRB.
THere is only one candidate who fits the requirements of the job in these critical times. RON PAUL

No rookies need apply, and that is what all of the others are.

He doesn't need to be younger. You do not understand what age is. It isn't a number. He is great as he is. So, if you want it to happen as you say you do, vote Ron Paul.
Register to vote in the Republican primary to vote for Ron Paul, as well as all of the Tea Party and Independent candidates for Congress.

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This debate was nothing more than a hit piece on Ron Paul. Fox News' last effort to bring down Paul right before the straw poll. I new this crap was coming and with the way the questions were setup there wasn't much he could do about it. Giving him all the wedge issue type questions while giving the others more serious economic, debt, budget questions when we all know this is Paul's bread and butter. If anyone can't see this was a blatant hit piece on Paul their blind as a bat. Lets just hope Paul can get his ground game together come Saturday. I'm dying to see fox news Snit their pants after he wins..
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[link to www.foxnews.com]

Ron paul with a commanding lead, doubling up the next opponent

ok maybe it's on;y ~9k voting...still a good sign
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I know this sounds crazy but I came away really digging newt and Ron Paul. Well liking Ron Paul is a give in. But newt was superb tonight.

Would it be weird to suggest a ron/newt ticket??
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so who's "electable" o-mighty 1? who do you throw your rose petals under?
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Frankly, I'm not lit up over any of em....

Romney comes off as very smooth...like Slick Willy smooth...

Newt is sharp and can handle himself, but he's another old Boys network greasy insider power type. He's going to suffer from people acceptance problems.

Pawlenty comes off like a pussy and tonight he looked like a bully beating up a gurl with Bachman.

Bachman looked a deer in the headlights way too many times and one huge acceptance factor concerning women is that when they fight back?...they come off like bitches...it's a very hard balance to strike and appear strong and forceful and not a whinning bitch, not trying to be sexist, but it's the truth.

The rest of em aren't even worth mentioning.

I dunno maybe this Perry guy will step up...but he's got immigration baggage so we'll see about him.


I do know this...if the Republican party doesn't have anyone with their shit wired tight who can inspire people more than I saw tominght out in front real soon?...then we're done...and it'll be 4 more years of Obama and if that happens?....we ain't seen nothing yet if you think things are bad now...
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From the poll on www.foxnews.com over in the right column:

RON PAUL IN A BLOW-OUT

FoxNews / Topix - You Decide
Who won the Republican Presidential Debate?
Vote Now

National Vote

Paul 2,972

Gingrich 1,730

Cain 945

Bachmann 824

Romney 803

Santorum 402

Huntsman 179

Pawlenty 125
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Yes Ron Paul kicks ass. He does it with his brain, which is the best brain in Washington DC, and the best brain on stage tonight.

He is not feeble. Age isn't what you think it is. On the Real Age Factor scale, he's at about 50.

We can't afford a rookie in the White House. We need the experience and brilliant mind of Ron Paul.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


I love what Ron Paul says, and I've donated to him, however, he does seem feeble, sorry, and while his words are strong, the American Public is looking for Samuel L. Jackson and he is projecting the retired district. He needs to be 20 years younger, otherwise, it is not happening, as much as we want it to.
 Quoting: owatha


Nobody is expecting Ron to win, even though he's the most qualified. He's injecting REAL ISSUES into these debates, which is priceless. It's setting Rand up for 2016, at which point, Ron can be Treasury Secretary or VP, or something else big and badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502268


Actually, tens of millions of us expect Ron Paul to win. That will happen because we are going to vote for the brightest candidate, Ron Paul.

We need Ron Paul now. He is the only candidate who can actually take over the reins of this country, and right the ship.
I want the candidate elected who knows the most about the economy, the FRB, foreign policy, and how the government really works. I want the candidate known for truth. I want the candidate who is respected by all of Washington DC and the FRB.
THere is only one candidate who fits the requirements of the job in these critical times. RON PAUL

No rookies need apply, and that is what all of the others are.

He doesn't need to be younger. You do not understand what age is. It isn't a number. He is great as he is. So, if you want it to happen as you say you do, vote Ron Paul.
Register to vote in the Republican primary to vote for Ron Paul, as well as all of the Tea Party and Independent candidates for Congress.

:RonPaulevt:
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I would love it if you were right. He's our only hope this cycle.
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[link to www.foxnews.com] GO VOTE FOR RON (Or Cain if you're not very smart; because we really need a BANKSTER President.)
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It may only be 9K votes so far, but the debate WAS on Fox News, and this is the Fox News poll, so it's gotta mean something.

I am praying that Ron Paul wins the official Ames Straw Poll
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Anyone think the Gingrich numbers might be tampered with?

[link to techland.time.com]
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Anyone think the Gingrich numbers might be tampered with?

[link to techland.time.com]
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Report: 92% of Newt Gingrich's Twitter Followers Aren't Real

Read more: [link to techland.time.com]
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Anyone think the Gingrich numbers might be tampered with?

[link to techland.time.com]
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Like SHR said...he's a fucking greasy insider, they walk the same, talk the same.
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Anyone think the Gingrich numbers might be tampered with?

[link to techland.time.com]
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Report: 92% of Newt Gingrich's Twitter Followers Aren't Real

Read more: [link to techland.time.com]
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Heh ;)
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[link to www.foxnews.com] GO VOTE FOR RON (Or Cain if you're not very smart; because we really need a BANKSTER President.)
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My vote is in....Do IT! enter your zip above the map and vote!
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Ron Paul is running away with the popular vote as the debate winner.

[link to www.topix.com]
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EVERYBODY, go to Fox and vote!

I wonder if Hannity is going to interview RP....?

God, the rest of these clowns are empty suits....not even in the same moral/ethical/thoughtful dimension as Ron Paul. And yet......
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My take:

Ron Paul's answers were crushing bombs of awesome. But I agree with others, he comes off weak. It's unfortunate that it's taken 30 years for him to get the support he deserves.

Newt gave very strong answers and was setup to do so while simultaneously being continually blasted about how unelectable he was. In the end I don't know Newt's TRUE voting record. I know pauls
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I love ron paul, he's the fucking man

But....

Don't flame me

His presence is weak. He doesn't have the solid leadership look. That is a count against him to the drive-by audience
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Only to the shallow. Unfortunately, that could be a hell of a lot of people.
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Did fox news clear the poll? I went to see what RP was at and they're at about 2k votes total (with RP at 61% lol) All of a sudden newt is in there at 16%
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Won by over 70% on msnbs poll....

[link to ed.msnbc.msn.com]

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!


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so who's "electable" o-mighty 1? who do you throw your rose petals under?
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Frankly, I'm not lit up over any of em....

Romney comes off as very smooth...like Slick Willy smooth...

Newt is sharp and can handle himself, but he's another old Boys network greasy insider power type. He's going to suffer from people acceptance problems.

Pawlenty comes off like a pussy and tonight he looked like a bully beating up a gurl with Bachman.

Bachman looked a deer in the headlights way too many times and one huge acceptance factor concerning women is that when they fight back?...they come off like bitches...it's a very hard balance to strike and appear strong and forceful and not a whinning bitch, not trying to be sexist, but it's the truth.

The rest of em aren't even worth mentioning.

I dunno maybe this Perry guy will step up...but he's got immigration baggage so we'll see about him.


I do know this...if the Republican party doesn't have anyone with their shit wired tight who can inspire people more than I saw tominght out in front real soon?...then we're done...and it'll be 4 more years of Obama and if that happens?....we ain't seen nothing yet if you think things are bad now...
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If Ron Paul isn't the GOP nomination, we are easily looking at 4 more years of Obama.
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on the RP forum, folks are saying they aren't being allowed to vote for Paul, seems when you put in the code numbers, it flips back and says you entered the wrong numbers.

They can easily control this thing to their intended outcome I think.


If only 10% of those who watched the debate votes, Faux news and all the other faux news have no audience. Seems to me, these debates need to be conducted by someone who actually has an audience for a more accurate indicator of what the american public might actually consider as a candidate.
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Dammit.

I wish I could take the best of Romney, Paul, and Bachman and make one
solid candidate. I still don't have a favorite.

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Interesting. Gingrich is 2nd to last on the MSNBC poll.

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If you believe a single word that comes out of any of these dicksticks mouth, then your chump ass is going to get exactly what you deserve. A fact is still a fact ladies and gentelman and the fact is that these bought and sold douchebags in DC are neither interested or capable of running the country. Does any motherfucker stand for any motherfucking thing in this country anymore? I know there are. Warriors, look at your selves. Fuck all of our money and blood are spent overseas. afghan schools are good but US schools are bad? Afghanistan will never adopt the values of the US any more than the Us will adopt thevalues of Afghanistan. So what the fuck is it going to be here folks? How about we quit sending our kids over ther to be maimed and killed for fucking what?. opium $$ for Karzai and the CIA huh? Can ANYBODY be so fucking stupid to not see through this bullshit??
It seems that every stupid motherfucker is just gobbiling down the talking points. Just done with this bullshit. Out.
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so who's "electable" o-mighty 1? who do you throw your rose petals under?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259453


Frankly, I'm not lit up over any of em....

Romney comes off as very smooth...like Slick Willy smooth...

Newt is sharp and can handle himself, but he's another old Boys network greasy insider power type. He's going to suffer from people acceptance problems.

Pawlenty comes off like a pussy and tonight he looked like a bully beating up a gurl with Bachman.

Bachman looked a deer in the headlights way too many times and one huge acceptance factor concerning women is that when they fight back?...they come off like bitches...it's a very hard balance to strike and appear strong and forceful and not a whinning bitch, not trying to be sexist, but it's the truth.

The rest of em aren't even worth mentioning.

I dunno maybe this Perry guy will step up...but he's got immigration baggage so we'll see about him.


I do know this...if the Republican party doesn't have anyone with their shit wired tight who can inspire people more than I saw tominght out in front real soon?...then we're done...and it'll be 4 more years of Obama and if that happens?....we ain't seen nothing yet if you think things are bad now...
 Quoting: SHR


Even though I loathe Bachman, you do come off as very sexist. Apparently women can't have strong opinions in your world without being on their period?

What other explanation would you have for calling her "whiney" and not one other potential candidate? Please, clue me in.

Yeah, it's sexist. Women candidates are the new black candidates, but they're women, so they don't really count...

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God, Santorum is such a douche. There's a reason your a FORMER senator asshole. We voted your ass out. Fuck you.
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on the RP forum, folks are saying they aren't being allowed to vote for Paul, seems when you put in the code numbers, it flips back and says you entered the wrong numbers.

They can easily control this thing to their intended outcome I think.


If only 10% of those who watched the debate votes, Faux news and all the other faux news have no audience. Seems to me, these debates need to be conducted by someone who actually has an audience for a more accurate indicator of what the american public might actually consider as a candidate.
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Ron Paul finished himself off tonight...no help from FOX required.

....Michelle Bachmann was the winner.

...and you are in denial about how many people watch FOX.
That's just stupid.

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