Former CIA Agent On SEALS Down

so refreshing to see some intelligence around here for a change.

just out of curiosity, Chicken, what are your views on 9/11 ?

Its consistent with crashes I’ve seen…. The gear boxes are made of many alloys and magnesium and when they start on fire-nothing stops them and it consumes everything. But there’s no way to know what this crash is from but it looks recent by the ash.

A bit of an unusual team just for heading off 10 Taliban heading for the hills .

If the RPG takes out one rotor the other rotor will continue to operate. This means the helo will go down hard but it does not mean an explosion in the air and a disintegrated aircraft falling to the ground. If the chopper fell off of a cliff and cartwheeled down a mountain that is a different beast. That type of crash could cause catastrophic damage to the passengers and increase the chance of the bird catching on fire.

the rpg entered the cabin via the rear ramp and exploded internally It did not take out a rotor

secondly a chinook went down in the 80s in the british north sea (they were used for ferrying workers to the offshore oil platforms). The cause of the crash was a catastrophic failure of the drive train. once one rotor is out the other follows because they are coupled through a drive shaft.

in the case of the north sea chinook crash the gearbox and drive train seized and disintegrated into the passenger cabin the shrapnel from the mechanical failure basically shredded virtually all those on board.

add an RPG and a fire into that heady mix and it's fairly reasonable to assume identification of corpses is going to be challenging

Navy a long way from the water, huh.

My question for any that know or for all that would like to tell me. Why the use of the Navy? When I think of Navy I think of high seas.

Were not the Navy Seals the elite of the Navy? Why would they be on such a mission? Were they told it was rescue that turned out to be a chase?

Listen up brainiac..

The Chinook bears the name of a tribe of American Indians and also a hot, dry, powerful wind that blows in the Pacific Northwest.

The helicopter can operate at night and in nearly all weather conditions. It has been used widely in Iraq and as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in mountainous Afghanistan, where the high altitude and temperatures have limited the use of the Black Hawk. The Chinook also delivered aid and evacuated the critically injured from some of the most inaccessible and remote parts of Pakistan after the earthquake in 2005. Since then, toy Chinooks have become favorite playthings of Pakistani children, a symbol of American goodwill.

And to the no way 22 SEALS on one helo crowd, this was a pinned down immediate evac call by the Rangers.

Hell, you couldn't have physically prevented them from being on that chopper. I guarantee there were 200 other Spec op warriors trying to get on also.

As to what actually happened, who knows. I lean towards the Stinger theory.

Carry on.

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The article makes interesting reading.

Could the explosion have been caused by the grenade hitting the helicopter's fuel tank?

Yes it did to me too.

Truth to tell just in case anyone was doubted it, I have no idea about the military, rockets and bombs. But it could have been a grenade.

I know little about military hardware as well.

The article indicates the helo was brought down by an RPG. I assume this means a shoulder launched Rocket Propelled Grenade.

As I said could the explosion have been caused by the thing hitting the helo's fuel tank?

So a hard, violent crash will literally rip the bodies into unidentifiable pieces then......Riiiiiight. There is only one way bodies can be BLOWN TO BITS....and it ain't from ANY kind of mere crash, not in a helo. I doubt a 757 flying at 325+ mph into the face of a granite mountain would explode every body on board.



If you took one of the rotor out, without it to counter the torque.. it will rotate violently and come down really hard, equally catastrophic to the passengers.

The article makes interesting reading.

Could the explosion have been caused by the grenade hitting the helicopter's fuel tank?

This is my last post of the day. Thank you everyone for helping get me my first pin.

Listen up brainiac..

The Chinook bears the name of a tribe of American Indians and also a hot, dry, powerful wind that blows in the Pacific Northwest.

The helicopter can operate at night and in nearly all weather conditions. It has been used widely in Iraq and as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in mountainous Afghanistan, where the high altitude and temperatures have limited the use of the Black Hawk. The Chinook also delivered aid and evacuated the critically injured from some of the most inaccessible and remote parts of Pakistan after the earthquake in 2005. Since then, toy Chinooks have become favorite playthings of Pakistani children, a symbol of American goodwill.

And to the no way 22 SEALS on one helo crowd, this was a pinned down immediate evac call by the Rangers.

Hell, you couldn't have physically prevented them from being on that chopper. I guarantee there were 200 other Spec op warriors trying to get on also.

As to what actually happened, who knows. I lean towards the Stinger theory.

Carry on.

From what I have read, Seals had their own equipment including helicopters and they would never consider more than six Seals aboard any helicopter, just for the simple reason the loss would be great. The training expense and many years of experience makes these people very valuable.

If they were ordered to board that National Guard chopper, they would have balked, for the reasons above. Saying that, I do not think these 22 Seals were alive when put into the chopper and blown up on the ground to create the appearance of a chopper being downed by enemy fire.

These people were murdered by friendly's which is consistent with the formula tptb follow. That is, if you can't control them, particularly their mouth, sacrifice them.

I also believe that some of these men were dead following the crash in Pakistan during the phony Bin Laden fiasco. The bodies were preserved by the Pakistanis and turned over to us after negotiation. They put these ones into the chopper and blew it, or, they made that up too. There was no crash as they were already dead from the crash in Pakistan.

Parents, are not allowed to view the remains. That means there will be no civilian Autopsies conducted. These guys could have been machine gunned to death, and we will not know the answers without investigations, which we know our Government does not want.

I'm sorry if it seems that I am focused on conspiracy facts but I hear this is the place to vent them, to what conclusion I do not know. I guess if we bring the truth to the light of day, we will overcome the onslaught of these dark ones who are losing their grip. Things will get worse until they finally reach the conclusion that, you can't beat God!