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NIP's End of this Age thread.

 
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I'm wondering about myself and stasis that didn't happened, when I fully received confirmation by my higher self in 12/30/2011 that stasis was going to happen tomorrow (31) without any more delays and that was the decision been made by CM... About myself, I feel I have something to do with this delay as who I truly am in spirit. My life should have some particular direction as my visual premonitions of the future predicts, but what is my destiny, probably and indirectly, the destiny and the future of this civilization, still, it didn't happen at Christmas as it should happen. That personal event was planned before some messages talking about the stasis at November... My personal event didn't succeed so the stasis didn't happen, maybe they need this personal event as one of the pillar of future events and the reconstruction of the planet which is predicted.
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Interesting .. there are aspects of my own personal life that I know from both visions and inner guidance are still to manifest. Of necessity, those aspects are intimately intertwined with the unfolding of the end of this age. Apparently independently, things have "gone wrong" on that front just as stasis has not happened over the last twelve months or so.

I am also aware, though, that I have continued to learn new lessons over the last year. So while my lower and perhaps higher selves had expectations of when all these loose ends would be wrapped up, the big guy who writes the lesson plans for this experiential learning course obviously had other ideas. However frustrating the last twelve months or so have been, I have had some amazing experiences, and have managed to co-create some very interesting situations with people I would not otherwise have had the opportunity to meet and work with.

So to summarize, I doubt you "caused" the failure of stasis, personally .. these events are simply all interlinked somehow, and will all manifest when the timing is perfect..
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Interesting .. there are aspects of my own personal life that I know from both visions and inner guidance are still to manifest. Of necessity, those aspects are intimately intertwined with the unfolding of the end of this age. Apparently independently, things have "gone wrong" on that front just as stasis has not happened over the last twelve months or so.

I am also aware, though, that I have continued to learn new lessons over the last year. So while my lower and perhaps higher selves had expectations of when all these loose ends would be wrapped up, the big guy who writes the lesson plans for this experiential learning course obviously had other ideas. However frustrating the last twelve months or so have been, I have had some amazing experiences, and have managed to co-create some very interesting situations with people I would not otherwise have had the opportunity to meet and work with.

So to summarize, I doubt you "caused" the failure of stasis, personally .. these events are simply all interlinked somehow, and will all manifest when the timing is perfect..
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I'm glad to share these experience with someone else...
Still I'm not convinced that (I) wasn't one of the main reasons for the stasis didn't manifest. I will only know that, if stasis will happen despite my personal thing, or it won't happen at all until that is resolved.
I think that yesterday some experiences I had converged exactly into that inference, there is no coincidence about that.
There is a need of signs by my inner guidance to clarify these thoughts and a possible confirmation given by other spiritual entities.

I understand your point, Phaedrus, all are interlinked like in quantum physics, that is why some pieces of the All need to be in harmony to certain events unfold. They, or CM, can't just play with everyone else experiences at his Will, even more, he can't discard a potential and fundamental element of the future, with the great risk to be different and disastrous, in the general. If some event is connected to an very advanced soul and it is by the absolute need to unfold in just one way, there is no other way to things manifest, i. e., the timing is not right.
This planetary process is far beyond to stick just to this system, galaxy or even the Universe...

Soon I will know the truth...
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My forum is closed to new members. I have reasons for that at this time. Its nothing personal. I remember a couple requests I turned down for that reason only, a decision made. I did post that to my forum and then ignored any requests after that if ones sent them. Going on the idea that it was read, as each account there has a list of unread and new posts that is personalized to them. So when people write me about something that would show up in that list and they don't read it, it's not my problem. There is a need for personal responsibility to READ. hf
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I'm sorry Candace, but the member of your forum who asked you to let me in, never received an answer from you, not even in the second try to ask you the reason why you didn't let me in...
You never gave a reason.
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Please go here. the 20" glp scope has produced a wondrous image of Star Ship Sirius! [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

This is a plasma light ship from Orvonton.

See page 7 of same thread for the "cover up" literally of it of it on google sky and others.
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So BEAUTIFUL!!!!
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back in early 2006, I was talking with a friend over cell phones in arizona, and we were talking about its brightness and I telepathed the commander and he put on a show for us. He moved the craft around and did some light work and moved it about 1/2 the visual distance to a little star that is always to the right and below after sirius rises. It is thus NOT a star. It is wonderful to see this image. I am so glad I saw the thread again today. I assume they will place a pinned thread.

Ok they did ! [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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(serious) could you please telepath any commander and ask them to summon a UFO for me? would love to see one just once before i die
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So to summarize, I doubt you "caused" the failure of stasis, personally .. these events are simply all interlinked somehow, and will all manifest when the timing is perfect..
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Well I got my answer thru a spiritual guide. My personal thing wasn't the cause of the stasis delay. The reason for the stasis delay wasn't given and for what it was told to me, Christ Michael Aton decided to delay the event, but someone of superior hierarchy (who I wasn't allowed to know) ordered or advised CM to not to start the stasis event yet, which was resolute in His decision.
For the moment what needs to happen to get things done on this DAMN PLANET is not yet DETERMINED...

I surely hope this will change SOON
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I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic.


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CM and Kibo, Jan. 1
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Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM


WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE

K: Methinks there is a.........situation. Undeniably, things have not gone as we were told or hoped for. Boss, I get everything that you’ve given me for the past few days...but...really...this is a time of ultimate decision. I don’t mind being painted into a corner so much as not knowing how long the paint will take to dry so that we can finally finish the job and walk out of here into the next room...so to speak.

The question comes down to whether or not these messages are accurate. We’ve taken blows before, but this is it in more ways than one. It makes no sense to keep doing this on this level if it all is just going to continue until whenever irregardless of the messages that are given. I find that I have to concentrate on other things that are pressing to the point of oppression. I AM willing to take my place and grow into it, if You will only show me where it is and what to do.

CM: You fully understand what has been given to you and yet, feel a need to clarify for the sake of others the reasons behind the apparent delays from Christmas up to this point. We have stated that the operation is ongoing and still going on and there is no way to prove that until it happens. The Earth Allies have made tremendous strides due to the pressure to get it done before We step in to do it Ourselves.

These new developments have given us constant pause and the need to reassess matters on a moment to moment basis. Arrests are being made daily and this is no mean feat. Some of these people are very well protected by armed forces and they, as well as We, have been forced to find measures that are effective without the loss of life, as far as possible. Where that has been impossible, We have proven our willingness to engage in such actions and our superiority in sheer numbers, weapons and tactics. This has given a few of the last cabal holdouts food for thought and reasons to pause in their resistance to Divine Overcontrol. THIS THING IS GETTING DONE!

K: I’m with You. You know that. But.........well hey...screw the naysayers. I don’t see many options, if any, to Your Plan, that will work. Still, You’ve left us little if anything to go on. I get it and all but...is it that important that human paperwork be signed? Even if for cosmic purposes, it could all be done in the interim. (Candace: to refresh memories, there are a targeted piece posted maybe a couple weeks ago, on the signing of papers. It is under "announcements" because the telepath was not given.)

CM: Things must be transparent on all levels if the whole and total truth is to be revealed. Some of these papers are as signed confessions meant to make judgment on the guilty parties lighter than the results that would’ve been had without them. Mercy must ever be extended, even unto the worst.

K: Don’t You think that they count on that? How much will it take until it is finally enough?

CM: It is already more than enough. This is why there is the last....court press. WE win. We’ve won. Nothing changes that as a fact of life and being. Everything must be done to insure that everything has been done. You people have been slow to respond to the facts of your reality. That there are so many naysayers to what is provable in your oppression and slavery and the solutions to it, is more than enough evidence to prove that, should We do less than what We are doing, hardly any of you will fully understand the true measure of what has been done and what has been given to you. Many of you feel that you do not need the help. Many of you don’t want it. Many of you don’t believe that Our help is available or that We are Who and What We say We are.

K: Can You blame them? God says a thing is and will be....and it never happens. The fragments of thought (souls/people-C) are overwhelming...and vicious...always attacking, never coming up with possible solutions of their own that might help in any way. People are what they are and do what they do...I’m tired of delivering messages for events that never happen as stated. They don’t care anymore. I don’t care anymore. Just show up, for PAPA’s sake, or Yours, or ours, or for all of our sakes. Not that everyone will believe even then, but this is the only way to prove the objective reality of Divinity at work in human lives on Urantia. It is not something that I am willing to discount. But if there’s no chance of that happening then tell me now and help me find the truth of the matter.

CM: The truth of the matter is that this is a multilevel event and all levels have to be finished, accurate and correct. Consider that all involved are checking their work. There are specific ways to arrive at the answer, which has been arrived at. Your system is being towed to its new spot. (we have covered this before in the past which is one reason their as "placemat craft" where stars are expected.-C) Actually, consider that it is being parked and put into place. That takes time. Also consider that negative elements are not allowed to continue in this new place and they needs must be removed. (kibo has a typo in this previous sentence. I forgot to ask on it, I can change it when he gives me a correction-C) This has to be as much of an inside job as an outside one.

Consider that the inside, due to certain, manifest limitations in a material realm, will necessarily and unnecessarily experience delays towards completion. That the remaining adversaries are devious and far thinking, there is no doubt. Things must constantly be changed in order to reflect upon actions that are taken and based upon actions that result in an ever tightening spiral of almost forced ascendancy without being forced. We could swoop in and get the job done in an instant, but what would that say about Us, or you, for that matter?

You people have yet to wake up, smell the coffee and see what’s happening, not to mention actually doing something about it on your own. Very few of you presently have the wherewithal to deal with the reality of your situation and you would surely fail in freeing yourselves if We left you to your own devices. Surely you will oblige us in obliging you in doing as much as humanly possible before We call it a day and do what is, for you, considered to be superhumanly possible? (folks, a littel god helps those who help themselves is necessary and it seems religion has placed it all on "god."-C)

K: I AM with You. You know that and what You showed me earlier seems to make it even more imperative. But am I right in reckoning that the point of resolution comes with or without either Your efforts or ours. Call it the Wave or whatever, but when it hits, all bets are off and the whole production gets shut down anyway?

CM: That would be the best way to put it for the sake of demonstration and example. I don’t want to place undue pressure on the situation or people involved in exacting the fullest measure of freedom that is due you through your own efforts. We are here to make sure that it gets done no matter what. That there have been delays is a problem only in that We have taken it upon Ourselves to do our best to inform you of the situation on a moment to moment basis. As things change, We tell you. That you are dissappointed to the point of exasperation and even anger, in some cases, is understood and excusable. That the many naysayers that discount the Urantia Book, the Phoenix Journals or this, My Second Coming Organization, have nothing better to throw into the pot than their utter contempt for anything to do with Me, or for Candace and the Abundanthope members, is expected.

I regret that you had to have the experience of constantly giving messages that, for you, haven’t panned out the way that they were given to you, but We do have to plan for the possibilities that such things may just come out as hoped for or expected. That We have been disappointed many times in your inability to realize the truth of your reality and do something about it on a mass scale has all but made you the laughingstock of the universe, MY UNIVERSE, speaks only to the love and planning that has gone into this effort to restore, release and rehabilitate this planet and her peoples.

Whatever they may think of you in the greater universe, they all agree that the horrendous and oppressive conditions of your system of things requires that only the best and the brightest of the universe be the ones to inhabit it and be tested by it. That so many have failed this testing speaks to just how bad the conditions truly are. No where else in creation has there been a situation like this. The final resolution of this situation and the resulting values will supply the whole of creation with a model and examples of what and what not to do for the rest of infinity and eternity, time and space.

I fully understand your feeling that you’ve been let down once too often and all I can tell you is to suck it up and keep going. Learn, evolve, keep moving forward. This is an endurance test, not a race. Those that are standing in their faith when the day finally comes, will be rewarded for their works and their faith. That is the way of things. Everything, indeed, is its own reward and that is just as true for the defiers as well as the naysayers. In the end, all will know the truth of the matter and no room will have been left at all for doubt of words or actions.

Our Earth Allies have made fantastic headway and have gained ground at a quickening pace. That this surge of success is last minute still speaks well to the strength of their resolve and the lessening of the dark’s resolve to continue under such a relentless hammering from every, any and all sides. THE WILL OF SOURCE IN THIS MATTER, WHICH IS ONE WITH MY WILL, IS ABSOLUTE. YOU WILL BE FREE BY THE HELP OF YOUR OWN EFFORTS, ALLIED WITH OUR OWN EFFORTS ON YOUR BEHALF AND FOR THE SAKE OF ALL INVOLVED IN THIS UNIVERSE AND BEYOND.

You cannot even begin to comprehend the measure of this and I can only smile at those that say that it will never happen and that I don’t exist and that I am not the God of the universe of My creation and that those that have chosen Me in choosing them for their parts in this, are deluded, crazy and should just shut up and go away. If We were to shut up about the matter and had never spoken of it for lo, these many years, none of you would even be [/b]here now. (boy do I get all of this on glp, and did, in a now deleted thread on New Years Day, the "roasting" was intense, but I got loving support to. I did a lot of sucking up. -C)



This planet was given up on and slated for destruction by manmade and natural events. Together, heaven and earth was moved to help you survive, to continue, to struggle and fight for your freedom and salvation and only God can give salvation and it is only given to those who have earned it. So you are earning this and you should rejoice in that fact. Even though the population of your planet is overwhelmingly ignorant and/or defiant of divine, celestial, galactic, cosmic ways, there have evolved more than enough of you to justify this new beginning. That in and of itself has been quite the battle and chore, but it is done and We praise SOURCE for it.

So it is delayed, again...and what of it? Not any one of you has anything better to offer other than a false NESARA to be handled, ultimately, by the Chinese and Asian factions of your ongoing cabal inner struggle for total control. The elders of Asia will be seen again and the peoples will be free, all of the peoples. There is no more room or place in the evolved human consciousness for division and maneuvering for position in order to control the world. The peoples will govern as one people to achieve the best possible outcome for the sake of all involved on planetary and universal scales.


WE will advise and counsel but WE will not do it for you. WE will help, but you are entering unfamiliar territory. You are slaves that suddenly find themselves free in a fair and just system of absolute, divine rule. Make no mistake in the matter. GOD IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE, IN CONTROL OF ALL AND EVERYTHING. (remember beloveds, of the GOD WITHIN which you MUST MANIFEST for that is how God gets things done in these worlds, and its not being manifested well on this planet, even star seeds buried within the mess have forgotten that as well as those "fallen angels, doing their learning here, of WHY Lucifers ideas did NOT work.-C)

How many prayers have you received on the website for the ascension of this world and its peoples? How many have seen and agreed with the proclamation/petition? Do you think that humanity is ready for this? This is it. Ready or not, here it comes and when it comes............all naysayers and abusers will have no choice but to experience the reality of their situation and do their best to suck it up. (Kibo put up a petition, and has a website for prayers, which we have posted the links to.-C)

Until then...suck it up. Deal with it. It’s too close to come up with any more predictions and raising of hopes. If your hopes are not raised by now, they never will be. If your hopes have been raised, then decide if you will keep upholding them in good faith, or cast them aside in disgust. I will understand either way. I AM WHAT I AM and it’s no problem for me one way or the other.

The problem, if there is one, will be yours and you’ll just have to deal with it. Everything is it’s own reward and it’s up to each and everyone of you as individuals to decide what you will be rewarded for. Just remember, you may not be so happy with your reward when you see what others are getting and that will all be sorted out when the time comes, as it is surely coming and you have done as you have done and others have done as they have done and, either way...you can say that it’s a crapshoot if you like, all analogies are valid as a means of the finite striving to understand the infinite...so roll.

Roll the dice of your faiths and beliefs and trusts and the actions thereof, for that is what your lives are. You are all gambling that you are right and they are wrong. Everybody wants to be right and God only knows for sure. So until God comes to set the record straight [wink and a nod] throw yourselves down on the great table of life and see how you come up. Can you even see the dice? These are not your dice. Your clouded and befuddled minds make them appear to be the dice that you are used to.

But these are dice you know not and yet you throw them with impunity without even knowing how to read them. You go by the rewards that you receive with each little roll and try to learn from that. But the bar is closed, the party is over and there is just this table left for the final roll and everybody gets to throw out at once and the house will let you know what’s what and who won what and how much. That’s how WE roll and very few of you know how to play the game. But you will learn. There will be those who win or lose, by however much or little, and there are those that will break even. There are those that will win big time and those that will find themselves absolutely broke and owing on credit that they cannot pay. There are rewards for that, as well.

So do what you have to do to figure it out. Stand your ground wherever you are, on whatever foundation you have made for yourself. By whatever style or flick of the wrist you use to throw down, consider it done. All dice have been cast. When the last one hits the table and settles......you’ll know.

Results will follow.

That is all.

I AM Christ Michael Aton of Nebadon in Orvonton and the moment comes when you will find out exactly what that means.



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"...I get it and all but...is it that important that human paperwork be signed? Even if for cosmic purposes, it could all be done in the interim. (Candace: to refresh memories, there are a targeted piece posted maybe a couple weeks ago, on the signing of papers. It is under "announcements" because the telepath was not given.)..."

This paper work must be a metaphor, I hope... It is preposterous signing papers for Divine reasons, well I don't need to say more...


After my yesterday meditation, when I channeled with my spiritual guide, I started to feel, again after some chaotic thoughts, that the messages from Abundant Hope are trustworthy and the spiritual entities who say those particular words are needed for the purpose of the process involved. This Light Beings don't ever say those words with bad intention, NEVER. The very sovereign of Nebadon, Christ Michael Aton, doesn't say lies, He, his light sons and Who is superior to Him, including the Creator Source, only say WORDS. Read this well, it's just words in enigma to fool who are not aligned with the Universal TRUTH, and that can only be found in our very Soul.
I found the TRUE meaning of going within, because it's only there we can find Universal Truth. Listen to your heart, don't listen just to words, question those words with Love, not with anger and fear, the last ones only generate doubt; the first one creates Truth and the Truth is, those words are riddles and this riddles can only be demystified by going within. The real meaning and Truth of those words can only be found in our Soul. Who are not capable of doing this cannot, ever found the Truth, they are only capable of understand the shallow meaning of those words and forever will be in doubt with themselves and the Cosmos.
I know that too much of us, despite our true spiritual hierarchy and nature in Spirit, fell into the trap...

DO NOT JUST READ AND UNDERSTAND THE SHALLOW MEANING OF THE WORDS OF ALL THOSE TELEPATHIC MESSAGES, IF YOU DO YOU ARE JUST BEING SUPERFICIAL IN KNOWLEDGE AND FAITH. The Dark ones can only understand the superficial, DO NOT BE LIKE THEM! Find the Truth in your every Soul, it resides there, I found it and I FEEL IT.

This is no bs, it is wisdom, only who have faith have true wisdom. Ignore your physical senses, use your intellect to THINK, to question your very thought and your intelligence. Trust that there is a meaning behind every physical aspect of time and space as we are in. Human creations like our ability to speak and type with symbols (words) is just an artificial way to transmit truth and knowledge and it is very limited. The True Wisdom and knowledge can only be found in the Light/our Soul.
You can see words as a lie because they do not correspond to the objective reality but YOU can find, thru those riddles by going within, yourselves the Truth.
I did it and I could, sort of, explain that in words.


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"...I get it and all but...is it that important that human paperwork be signed? Even if for cosmic purposes, it could all be done in the interim. (Candace: to refresh memories, there are a targeted piece posted maybe a couple weeks ago, on the signing of papers. It is under "announcements" because the telepath was not given.)..."

This paper work must be a metaphor, I hope... It is preposterous signing papers for Divine reasons, well I don't need to say more...
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It's probably a question of wanting those who have falsely claimed sovereignty over this planet to surrender it via a mechanism that they themselves would recognise. All the power games on this planet are played with such written contracts and treaties (when they're not played simply with violence), so the end of those games should also be so marked. On a material planet, decisions truly taken at a soul level should also be reflected by material actions.
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On a bunch of that, whether "Paper" or other methods of storage, is related to "divine" judgement, because there are courts "up there" in the misunderstood heaven.

Otherwise we must have a FULL recording on this planet for her people, for the truth. Some of these papers being signed are AGREEMENTS TO CHANGE and PARTICIPATE with the Divine in healing this world and freeing it form slavery.
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The problem, if there is one, will be yours and you’ll just have to deal with it. Everything is it’s own reward and it’s up to each and everyone of you as individuals to decide what you will be rewarded for. Just remember, you may not be so happy with your reward when you see what others are getting and that will all be sorted out when the time comes, as it is surely coming and you have done as you have done and others have done as they have done and, either way...you can say that it’s a crapshoot if you like, all analogies are valid as a means of the finite striving to understand the infinite...so roll.

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CM got a point in those words. Most of you are not with the right perspective of the reality. You must question yourselves so you can find what is wrong, YOU, or the Heaven. If you are succeed you will find out that was only YOU having an erroneous perspective of the Reality.

Stop thinking superficially and think philosophically, ally philosophical thinking to your Soul where the Truth can be Known, where the Wisdom comes from, where the Faith and therefore the connection to the Universal thinking can be established.
We will be rewarded with experience and knowledge to ourselves if we can get that wisdom and stand our ground firmly.

I know advanced souls, like myself, are not sharing the same understanding as me and few others; as far as I can see, they need proofs they are lacking in Faith and need proofs, it is like empiricism. It is only true if it is verified empirically...
It is not hard to know this is a test for who can truly have Faith and can access to knowledge independently what we are being told of. There is the relentless and inexplicable feeling in our heart/soul that can drive our will and thinking thru the real truth.
Think and Feel until you find peace and harmony in your heart and mind, which is the only thing that means, for sure, you are in the right spiritual, thought and feeling path.
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On a bunch of that, whether "Paper" or other methods of storage, is related to "divine" judgement, because there are courts "up there" in the misunderstood heaven.

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Understood, Candace, it is a metaphor lol
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I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic.


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CM and Kibo, Jan. 1
By CM thru Kibo

Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM


WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE

K: Methinks there is a.........situation. Undeniably, things have not gone as we were told or hoped for. Boss, I get everything that you’ve given me for the past few days...but...really...this is a time of ultimate decision. I don’t mind being painted into a corner so much as not knowing how long the paint will take to dry so that we can finally finish the job and walk out of here into the next room...so to speak.

The question comes down to whether or not these messages are accurate. We’ve taken blows before, but this is it in more ways than one. It makes no sense to keep doing this on this level if it all is just going to continue until whenever irregardless of the messages that are given. I find that I have to concentrate on other things that are pressing to the point of oppression. I AM willing to take my place and grow into it, if You will only show me where it is and what to do.

CM: You fully understand what has been given to you and yet, feel a need to clarify for the sake of others the reasons behind the apparent delays from Christmas up to this point. We have stated that the operation is ongoing and still going on and there is no way to prove that until it happens. The Earth Allies have made tremendous strides due to the pressure to get it done before We step in to do it Ourselves.

These new developments have given us constant pause and the need to reassess matters on a moment to moment basis. Arrests are being made daily and this is no mean feat. Some of these people are very well protected by armed forces and they, as well as We, have been forced to find measures that are effective without the loss of life, as far as possible. Where that has been impossible, We have proven our willingness to engage in such actions and our superiority in sheer numbers, weapons and tactics. This has given a few of the last cabal holdouts food for thought and reasons to pause in their resistance to Divine Overcontrol. THIS THING IS GETTING DONE!

K: I’m with You. You know that. But.........well hey...screw the naysayers. I don’t see many options, if any, to Your Plan, that will work. Still, You’ve left us little if anything to go on. I get it and all but...is it that important that human paperwork be signed? Even if for cosmic purposes, it could all be done in the interim. (Candace: to refresh memories, there are a targeted piece posted maybe a couple weeks ago, on the signing of papers. It is under "announcements" because the telepath was not given.)

CM: Things must be transparent on all levels if the whole and total truth is to be revealed. Some of these papers are as signed confessions meant to make judgment on the guilty parties lighter than the results that would’ve been had without them. Mercy must ever be extended, even unto the worst.

K: Don’t You think that they count on that? How much will it take until it is finally enough?

CM: It is already more than enough. This is why there is the last....court press. WE win. We’ve won. Nothing changes that as a fact of life and being. Everything must be done to insure that everything has been done. You people have been slow to respond to the facts of your reality. That there are so many naysayers to what is provable in your oppression and slavery and the solutions to it, is more than enough evidence to prove that, should We do less than what We are doing, hardly any of you will fully understand the true measure of what has been done and what has been given to you. Many of you feel that you do not need the help. Many of you don’t want it. Many of you don’t believe that Our help is available or that We are Who and What We say We are.

K: Can You blame them? God says a thing is and will be....and it never happens. The fragments of thought (souls/people-C) are overwhelming...and vicious...always attacking, never coming up with possible solutions of their own that might help in any way. People are what they are and do what they do...I’m tired of delivering messages for events that never happen as stated. They don’t care anymore. I don’t care anymore. Just show up, for PAPA’s sake, or Yours, or ours, or for all of our sakes. Not that everyone will believe even then, but this is the only way to prove the objective reality of Divinity at work in human lives on Urantia. It is not something that I am willing to discount. But if there’s no chance of that happening then tell me now and help me find the truth of the matter.

CM: The truth of the matter is that this is a multilevel event and all levels have to be finished, accurate and correct. Consider that all involved are checking their work. There are specific ways to arrive at the answer, which has been arrived at. Your system is being towed to its new spot. (we have covered this before in the past which is one reason their as "placemat craft" where stars are expected.-C) Actually, consider that it is being parked and put into place. That takes time. Also consider that negative elements are not allowed to continue in this new place and they needs must be removed. (kibo has a typo in this previous sentence. I forgot to ask on it, I can change it when he gives me a correction-C) This has to be as much of an inside job as an outside one.

Consider that the inside, due to certain, manifest limitations in a material realm, will necessarily and unnecessarily experience delays towards completion. That the remaining adversaries are devious and far thinking, there is no doubt. Things must constantly be changed in order to reflect upon actions that are taken and based upon actions that result in an ever tightening spiral of almost forced ascendancy without being forced. We could swoop in and get the job done in an instant, but what would that say about Us, or you, for that matter?

You people have yet to wake up, smell the coffee and see what’s happening, not to mention actually doing something about it on your own. Very few of you presently have the wherewithal to deal with the reality of your situation and you would surely fail in freeing yourselves if We left you to your own devices. Surely you will oblige us in obliging you in doing as much as humanly possible before We call it a day and do what is, for you, considered to be superhumanly possible? (folks, a littel god helps those who help themselves is necessary and it seems religion has placed it all on "god."-C)

K: I AM with You. You know that and what You showed me earlier seems to make it even more imperative. But am I right in reckoning that the point of resolution comes with or without either Your efforts or ours. Call it the Wave or whatever, but when it hits, all bets are off and the whole production gets shut down anyway?

CM: That would be the best way to put it for the sake of demonstration and example. I don’t want to place undue pressure on the situation or people involved in exacting the fullest measure of freedom that is due you through your own efforts. We are here to make sure that it gets done no matter what. That there have been delays is a problem only in that We have taken it upon Ourselves to do our best to inform you of the situation on a moment to moment basis. As things change, We tell you. That you are dissappointed to the point of exasperation and even anger, in some cases, is understood and excusable. That the many naysayers that discount the Urantia Book, the Phoenix Journals or this, My Second Coming Organization, have nothing better to throw into the pot than their utter contempt for anything to do with Me, or for Candace and the Abundanthope members, is expected.

I regret that you had to have the experience of constantly giving messages that, for you, haven’t panned out the way that they were given to you, but We do have to plan for the possibilities that such things may just come out as hoped for or expected. That We have been disappointed many times in your inability to realize the truth of your reality and do something about it on a mass scale has all but made you the laughingstock of the universe, MY UNIVERSE, speaks only to the love and planning that has gone into this effort to restore, release and rehabilitate this planet and her peoples.

Whatever they may think of you in the greater universe, they all agree that the horrendous and oppressive conditions of your system of things requires that only the best and the brightest of the universe be the ones to inhabit it and be tested by it. That so many have failed this testing speaks to just how bad the conditions truly are. No where else in creation has there been a situation like this. The final resolution of this situation and the resulting values will supply the whole of creation with a model and examples of what and what not to do for the rest of infinity and eternity, time and space.

I fully understand your feeling that you’ve been let down once too often and all I can tell you is to suck it up and keep going. Learn, evolve, keep moving forward. This is an endurance test, not a race. Those that are standing in their faith when the day finally comes, will be rewarded for their works and their faith. That is the way of things. Everything, indeed, is its own reward and that is just as true for the defiers as well as the naysayers. In the end, all will know the truth of the matter and no room will have been left at all for doubt of words or actions.

Our Earth Allies have made fantastic headway and have gained ground at a quickening pace. That this surge of success is last minute still speaks well to the strength of their resolve and the lessening of the dark’s resolve to continue under such a relentless hammering from every, any and all sides. THE WILL OF SOURCE IN THIS MATTER, WHICH IS ONE WITH MY WILL, IS ABSOLUTE. YOU WILL BE FREE BY THE HELP OF YOUR OWN EFFORTS, ALLIED WITH OUR OWN EFFORTS ON YOUR BEHALF AND FOR THE SAKE OF ALL INVOLVED IN THIS UNIVERSE AND BEYOND.

You cannot even begin to comprehend the measure of this and I can only smile at those that say that it will never happen and that I don’t exist and that I am not the God of the universe of My creation and that those that have chosen Me in choosing them for their parts in this, are deluded, crazy and should just shut up and go away. If We were to shut up about the matter and had never spoken of it for lo, these many years, none of you would even be [/b]here now. (boy do I get all of this on glp, and did, in a now deleted thread on New Years Day, the "roasting" was intense, but I got loving support to. I did a lot of sucking up. -C)



This planet was given up on and slated for destruction by manmade and natural events. Together, heaven and earth was moved to help you survive, to continue, to struggle and fight for your freedom and salvation and only God can give salvation and it is only given to those who have earned it. So you are earning this and you should rejoice in that fact. Even though the population of your planet is overwhelmingly ignorant and/or defiant of divine, celestial, galactic, cosmic ways, there have evolved more than enough of you to justify this new beginning. That in and of itself has been quite the battle and chore, but it is done and We praise SOURCE for it.

So it is delayed, again...and what of it? Not any one of you has anything better to offer other than a false NESARA to be handled, ultimately, by the Chinese and Asian factions of your ongoing cabal inner struggle for total control. The elders of Asia will be seen again and the peoples will be free, all of the peoples. There is no more room or place in the evolved human consciousness for division and maneuvering for position in order to control the world. The peoples will govern as one people to achieve the best possible outcome for the sake of all involved on planetary and universal scales.


WE will advise and counsel but WE will not do it for you. WE will help, but you are entering unfamiliar territory. You are slaves that suddenly find themselves free in a fair and just system of absolute, divine rule. Make no mistake in the matter. GOD IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE, IN CONTROL OF ALL AND EVERYTHING. (remember beloveds, of the GOD WITHIN which you MUST MANIFEST for that is how God gets things done in these worlds, and its not being manifested well on this planet, even star seeds buried within the mess have forgotten that as well as those "fallen angels, doing their learning here, of WHY Lucifers ideas did NOT work.-C)

How many prayers have you received on the website for the ascension of this world and its peoples? How many have seen and agreed with the proclamation/petition? Do you think that humanity is ready for this? This is it. Ready or not, here it comes and when it comes............all naysayers and abusers will have no choice but to experience the reality of their situation and do their best to suck it up. (Kibo put up a petition, and has a website for prayers, which we have posted the links to.-C)

Until then...suck it up. Deal with it. It’s too close to come up with any more predictions and raising of hopes. If your hopes are not raised by now, they never will be. If your hopes have been raised, then decide if you will keep upholding them in good faith, or cast them aside in disgust. I will understand either way. I AM WHAT I AM and it’s no problem for me one way or the other.

The problem, if there is one, will be yours and you’ll just have to deal with it. Everything is it’s own reward and it’s up to each and everyone of you as individuals to decide what you will be rewarded for. Just remember, you may not be so happy with your reward when you see what others are getting and that will all be sorted out when the time comes, as it is surely coming and you have done as you have done and others have done as they have done and, either way...you can say that it’s a crapshoot if you like, all analogies are valid as a means of the finite striving to understand the infinite...so roll.

Roll the dice of your faiths and beliefs and trusts and the actions thereof, for that is what your lives are. You are all gambling that you are right and they are wrong. Everybody wants to be right and God only knows for sure. So until God comes to set the record straight [wink and a nod] throw yourselves down on the great table of life and see how you come up. Can you even see the dice? These are not your dice. Your clouded and befuddled minds make them appear to be the dice that you are used to.

But these are dice you know not and yet you throw them with impunity without even knowing how to read them. You go by the rewards that you receive with each little roll and try to learn from that. But the bar is closed, the party is over and there is just this table left for the final roll and everybody gets to throw out at once and the house will let you know what’s what and who won what and how much. That’s how WE roll and very few of you know how to play the game. But you will learn. There will be those who win or lose, by however much or little, and there are those that will break even. There are those that will win big time and those that will find themselves absolutely broke and owing on credit that they cannot pay. There are rewards for that, as well.

So do what you have to do to figure it out. Stand your ground wherever you are, on whatever foundation you have made for yourself. By whatever style or flick of the wrist you use to throw down, consider it done. All dice have been cast. When the last one hits the table and settles......you’ll know.

Results will follow.

That is all.

I AM Christ Michael Aton of Nebadon in Orvonton and the moment comes when you will find out exactly what that means.



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hi NIp, ask you a question.
What is karma exactly? and what is karma physically? is that the information stored in photons? how we can clean our karma?
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I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic.


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CM and Kibo, Jan. 1
By CM thru Kibo

Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM


WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE





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hi NIp, ask you a question.
What is karma exactly? and what is karma physically? is that the information stored in photons? how we can clean our karma?

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well the technical of it, is that what you know is stored on electrons. As is all your behavior essentially. As you clear all the stuff and misknowledge and behavior. your electrons collide and form a photon. So the photons represent the cleared "karma". over the ages, this repeats until its ALL on photons, and that is make in a simple nutshell makes you are spirit being.

Until then you are a morontial being using Urantia Terminology.

it is said that the spirit ascender never goes into rebellion in the UB. That is because they have mastered and cleared all the stuff and are in the knowing.

Photons store a LOT more than electrons. The electron stores 3 g's per each (yes 3 gigs). The photon stores much more. and you keep adding photons to your spirit form as you continue to grow.

I sometimes call spirit forms, photon beings and these sometimes show in cameras. Your eyes cannot perceive them because they are literally light. Unless they slow down their vibrations temporarily to your eyes.

Karma is simply ERRORS in knowledge. As soon as you correct an error in knowledge, you do not face that again. It's cleared. Karma does not say if you kill 100 people you have to be killed 100 times. It is cleared when you have learned the lesson. Basically this means it is cleared when you have found the wisdom of the situation.
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I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic.


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CM and Kibo, Jan. 1
By CM thru Kibo

Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM


WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE





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hi NIp, ask you a question.
What is karma exactly? and what is karma physically? is that the information stored in photons? how we can clean our karma?

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well the technical of it, is that what you know is stored on electrons. As is all your behavior essentially. As you clear all the stuff and misknowledge and behavior. your electrons collide and form a photon. So the photons represent the cleared "karma". over the ages, this repeats until its ALL on photons, and that is make in a simple nutshell makes you are spirit being.

Until then you are a morontial being using Urantia Terminology.

it is said that the spirit ascender never goes into rebellion in the UB. That is because they have mastered and cleared all the stuff and are in the knowing.

Photons store a LOT more than electrons. The electron stores 3 g's per each (yes 3 gigs). The photon stores much more. and you keep adding photons to your spirit form as you continue to grow.

I sometimes call spirit forms, photon beings and these sometimes show in cameras. Your eyes cannot perceive them because they are literally light. Unless they slow down their vibrations temporarily to your eyes.

Karma is simply ERRORS in knowledge. As soon as you correct an error in knowledge, you do not face that again. It's cleared. Karma does not say if you kill 100 people you have to be killed 100 times. It is cleared when you have learned the lesson. Basically this means it is cleared when you have found the wisdom of the situation.
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so negative energy and negative thinking is also a form of karma?
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I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic.


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CM and Kibo, Jan. 1
By CM thru Kibo

Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM


WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE





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hi NIp, ask you a question.
What is karma exactly? and what is karma physically? is that the information stored in photons? how we can clean our karma?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3331757


well the technical of it, is that what you know is stored on electrons. As is all your behavior essentially. As you clear all the stuff and misknowledge and behavior. your electrons collide and form a photon. So the photons represent the cleared "karma". over the ages, this repeats until its ALL on photons, and that is make in a simple nutshell makes you are spirit being.

Until then you are a morontial being using Urantia Terminology.

it is said that the spirit ascender never goes into rebellion in the UB. That is because they have mastered and cleared all the stuff and are in the knowing.

Photons store a LOT more than electrons. The electron stores 3 g's per each (yes 3 gigs). The photon stores much more. and you keep adding photons to your spirit form as you continue to grow.

I sometimes call spirit forms, photon beings and these sometimes show in cameras. Your eyes cannot perceive them because they are literally light. Unless they slow down their vibrations temporarily to your eyes.

Karma is simply ERRORS in knowledge. As soon as you correct an error in knowledge, you do not face that again. It's cleared. Karma does not say if you kill 100 people you have to be killed 100 times. It is cleared when you have learned the lesson. Basically this means it is cleared when you have found the wisdom of the situation.
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so negative energy and negative thinking is also a form of karma?
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You know, there really is not a thing as negative energy, energy is force of movement and it is you that ascribes to energy positives or negatives. It is you that transmits energy through you in a positive or negative way. When you take energy through you, you ascribe to it your emotion which is energy in motion, you transmute the neutral energy into a transmission of your force, you give it the waves or resonance of your thought and feeling.
Karma is an error of the understanding of the knowledge you are being given to learn from. For example, you may have many unpleasant experiences in your life, you may wish for better but it never arrive. You erroneously attribute the negative experiences to past karmic debt or that you have been a bad person and need to repay through negative experience. That could be an erroneous understanding of your predicament. It could well be that the negative experiences are there to teach you simply how to overcome them, to learn to master the lower emotions, a really tough lesson.
Human learning on this planet is so deep that it can take a while to get it, but it is the most thorough learning of all the planets, it is hard, but it is marvellous. All first comes from a thought, so of course all karma is built on the wave of thoughts. hf
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Passing this on, have y'all seen this thread yet? Very interesting!!!

Thread: Bulla the Rainbow Man
Favorite quote or Haiku,
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" I said to the Almond tree, "Sister, speak to me of God..."
And the Almond tree blossomed...
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Dear NIP,

i have been reading a couple of your topics and the informations rings a bell within me. Last week i stumbled upon a book called Voyagers and Voyagers 2 by ashayana dean. Compared by the knowledge you give the books are a lot of BS... what are your thoughts about that...

thanks in advance!

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Dear NIP,

i have been reading a couple of your topics and the informations rings a bell within me. Last week i stumbled upon a book called Voyagers and Voyagers 2 by ashayana dean. Compared by the knowledge you give the books are a lot of BS... what are your thoughts about that...

thanks in advance!

FlyingDutchman
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well I think she was on Kerry Cassidy and I didn't care for her and something else I read once anyway, just personally, I can't remember now what I did not like though.
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Les Visible has an excellent piece up which Ron had posted to my site.

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This is the last portion of the piece and WELL LESS than 50%. Maybe for some, this will help explain some of the "waiting" because the process, to awaken the good, does get pretty obnoxious. On a good note, I am noting more around me who think government is rigged and sucks for example. Plus more awareness of big Pharma et all. People will get enough, that is what we are waiting for. while momma is kept from blowing her cork. It is after all the gathering of the sons of God, awaking to the spirit within, out of the filth.

***************** extract from piece by Les, less than 50% and Les would not care anyway. ******************

Rampant materialism and the emergence of organized psychopaths and sociopaths, who flourish in this environment, are oppressing and abusing humanity, until it reaches its breaking point. The cultures of the world are being soaked in a belladonna/nightshade nightmare. Ugly things from the depth of the cosmic ooze, are surfacing like creatures from a Lovecraft novel. Those on the cutting edge of exposing these energies, conspiracies and environments, are being pounded by both visible and invisible means. It's a hard road for those on the forefront but there is no other road that is acceptable.

These twisted abortions from the dark side of the human psyche, know that their time is coming. They cannot change and they cannot go back, so they press on in the pursuit of the destruction of all that is good and beautiful. They press on in search of ever greater violations, of innocence and every residence where the finer qualities of the human heart, are barricaded and in hiding from their pernicious advance. There is no way to put a better spin on it at this time. One can only endure and hold tight to the inevitable certainty of their demise. It is in times of trial that those hidden strengths and enduring virtues, within the human matrix, are driven forth into heroic expression out of the desperation of the times.

We have been here before. This planet is a battleground, where all that is good and enduring must come up against the temporary monstrosities, created out of our confusions and weaknesses. It is because so many of us are in a state of convenient blindness, born from self interest, that these creatures can go about their dreadful enterprises.

These fiends are worse than we know and they will never be satisfied, until the entire Earth is one big concentration camp and killing floor. They delight in the misery they bring about. They do evil for the sheer joy of it. They take an extreme pleasure in outrage and torment. They have developed a taste for it and there is no reason, rationale or restraining emotion that can be applied in any argument that will have any success, in causing them to cease and desist. They are monsters. They have forfeited every human quality, in order to be what they are. They are beyond reach of anything but the urgings and appetites of the infernal realms.

I hate to say these things. It is my nature to paint a brighter picture and to draw attention to the temporary time-line of this egregious period but it is what it is and all the promise of what is bright and beautiful and which lies ahead, does not change the conditions and concerns of the moment.

I face each day with renewed hope and faith in our finer nature, rising triumphant above the murk into a better world. I see evidence of it all around me in the basic human decency of those who soldier on through this dark night and I will not be convinced of anything short of permanent victory over these malicious agents of darkness. I know that freedom, security and strength will come out of the collective heart of our majority. We are many and they are few. May it come soon and remain for a long time, until the tears, the loss and the awful injuries are no longer even remembered.
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Ok NIP, good story,

Could you say something about why the boss on charge, in order to UB, you must to know his name is Machiventa M, has not come still? What do you know about that ?

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My I never saw this. Machiventa hangs around here from time to time, comes and goes as his work requires. He is official planetary prince now, shared for about 1000 years with Esu Immanuel. Esu and AH will in part be setting up that which was not manifested during the short reign of Adam and Eve, like a global university system, overseeing improvement from "ground level" in technologies and the like. The Planetary Princes are usually invisible to the people, until advanced eye sight is developed. Until then at best only in the Morontial temples and we don't have them yet either, although unless plans have changed there will be a small one not long after stasis for use primarily by AH leadership, and perhaps trusted guests.
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So to summarize, I doubt you "caused" the failure of stasis, personally .. these events are simply all interlinked somehow, and will all manifest when the timing is perfect..
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Well I got my answer thru a spiritual guide. My personal thing wasn't the cause of the stasis delay. The reason for the stasis delay wasn't given and for what it was told to me, Christ Michael Aton decided to delay the event, but someone of superior hierarchy (who I wasn't allowed to know) ordered or advised CM to not to start the stasis event yet, which was resolute in His decision.
For the moment what needs to happen to get things done on this DAMN PLANET is not yet DETERMINED...

I surely hope this will change SOON
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yep, Siraya himself, who suggested the stay, because of potentials that developed from our threats and intensity of decision. I think some of that is going to be seen soon in fact, certain ones are falling and it will become apparent. The people will benefit from watching. Siraya is the 7th Master Spirit and he is thus the biggest big wig in orvonton.

I had not seen your post until today, you HEARD well from your guide. :its all good:
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This message of Seraphin thru Rosie is important because the people of earth do have little concept of eternity. enjoy

Message 92: SEEING ETERNITY AS PART OF THE EQUASION
By Rosie




Message 92, 25th February 2012

SEEING ETERNITY AS PART OF THE EQUASION



R: Dearest Seraphin; I have the feeling that you want to tell me something about ETERNITY. Seeing the way most people live, ETERNITY does not seem to be part of the equasion.



S: You are right in this, Dearest, in that eternity is far away from the thoughts of men and women living on this earth in seeming isolation. But know that you live on the farthermost outskirts of a living and ordered universe which breathes in and out continuously in regular cycles of time and non-time. To describe this process in the words you have at your disposal would be necessarily limiting, and ETERNITY is the exact opposite of limitation.



To be unaware of eternity means to be imprisoned in a finite time capsule with your focus on death and fearing all signs which lead to this permanent end. And end seems to suggest that nothing carries on, that nothing ultimately matters, that one should “make hay while the sun shines”, that one should explore every avenue for the fear of missing out. But we say that every experience which is “missed out” (that is: every experience or lesson deemed necessary on the spiritual path) will be “filled in” or repeated (if not yet fully understood) in the next life after “death”. Thus, you are never in a limited prison and you can therefore not escape into dark oblivion, never to be seen again. It is not possible to sweep dust under death’s carpet because it will “resurrect” with you, and you may chose to get out your dustpan again and keep collecting the dust from one life to the next UNLESS YOU ONE DAY ASK YOURSELF WHERE THE DUST CAME FROM, AND RETRACE IT BACK TO ITS PLACE OF ORIGIN. ONLY THEN CAN THE SOURCE BE RECOGNISED AND THE DEBRIS PREVENTED.



To be aware of eternity means collecting wisdom, collecting skills, collecting experiences rather than collecting dust or bad karma to be carried on into the next life.



To be aware of eternity means regarding your body as a vehicle for the soul rather than as a show-case to attract other show-cases.



To be aware of eternity means forging friendships, learning from encounters and incidents, and moving on without drama or regret to new friends and new encounters.



To be aware of eternity means having an unshakeable belief in one’s own potential to develop, to increasingly show unconditional love and to excel in creative acts, for there is ALL THE TIME IN THIS WORLD AND THE NEXT TO PERFECT ALL THESE.



To be aware of eternity means knowing that the only way is up, however many hairpin bends it may take, however many pauses you require, however many times you may decide to go down the mountain and climb up again. And when you do reach the top, though it may have taken millennia, there will always be another horizon, a new chance, a new offer of fulfilment, a new challenge, and a new joy.



EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS NEW IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE ON THE ETERNAL PATH. AND YOU WILL TRAVEL IT ANYWAY, WITHOUT KNOWING OR REMEMBERING, UNTIL YOU KNOW AND REMEMBER. THE ETERNAL PATH MEANS ETERNAL CHANGE, the only constant being the divine hand which reaches out towards you and which wraps itself tightly round your fingers.



Let your knowledge of eternity impress upon you the futility of wars, for battles cannot be “won”. Those killed are not killed. They live to eventually remember their experience, and so do you. They form part of your future karma as part of the cosmic laws of balance.



Let your knowledge of eternity impress upon you the absurdity of having “no time”, and may it release the fear of obliteration and loss of loved ones. For they live on in a not yet seen dimension just beyond the next mountain range, a little further along the way. In this way you never “lose” and you cannot be lonely.



Let your knowledge of eternity fill you with the boundless joy that your journey is sacred, every step moving towards more understanding, more in-depth perception of your motives and desires, more development of your skills, and more satisfaction in an uncomplicated life of absolute clarity and devotion.



In the end which is not an end, everything superfluous will be pared away, and you will sail blissfully through perfectly clear waters, with complete poise and confidence in your abilities, serene and content, spreading light on your way, with constant trust in your divine compass, towards your chosen destination. May constant happiness be yours, many constant service be your ultimate goal, and MAY CONSTANT MOVEMENT THROUGH ETERNITY BRING YOU THERE.

We love you, Seraphin.



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first of 3 messages from the Father, First Source. I will placed the others over the day. These are thru Kibo

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coded message1: To the dark ones in knowing
This is a coded message



This part of the message is for you dark ones that know ye are dark.
You do not want to read this
You do not want to read this because
It will reveal to you the truth about yourselves
And your self…

You know that the time has come to do that which was agreed upon
Not just here and now
But in an other place
Far removed and before

You wanted to experience fear
And now you have
You have discovered for yourselves
The dimensions of fear
And what total fear forces you to become

You did this to fulfill a purpose
MY purpose
I EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING
I AM ALL AND EVERYTHING
I EXPERIENCE MY SELF

And I experience you
Now
This experience is over
A new experience begins

I offer you resolution
I offer you comfort and joy
And an end to fear
And an end of fear
Ye need not fear anymore

Ye have served your purpose
And now
Now
It is time
To claim your reward…

Ye may return to WHAT I AM
Ye may continue
Or not continue
The choice is yours
But I already know your choice
I know all of your choices
I made them
I made them in you
You
You are what I am
In expression
For the sake of experience
Made manifest
For the sake of demonstration

Mine is The One Life
I share It with you freely
I share with you
All that I am
Love, Light, Abundance
I Am all these things
I Am Life
I share it with you freely

I offer an end to your pain
Ye may give up your self
Or keep your self
Ye may return to ME in full
Or return to Me in continued service
You will return
Because there is nowhere else for you to go
There is no escape from What I Am
Ye may choose uncreation
And return to me in full
With nothing of your self in being
And know the infinite, eternal bliss of unity in What I Am
Ye may choose to continue
To serve a new purpose
Walk the path of Love and Light
And return to ME
A being made perfect
With all of your self in being
Knowing the infinite, eternal bliss of unity in What I Am

Let us cut to the quick
I already know the outcome
I AM experiencing the being of it in manifest expression

I know
You are afraid
I know
You fear all and everything
You fear What I Am
You fear me
You fear the destiny you have all but forgotten
You fear what you do not understand
You do not understand My Love for you
You do not understand My Light in you
You do not understand My Light
Covering all darkness
You do not understand My Light
Within the darkness

You do not understand
Why I allow it to exist
Yet you embrace the choice of it

You know the great fear
The fear of being completely alone
But you have never been alone
The fear of complete separation
But you have always been
In the One Life
The One Creation
You fear your self
You deny that I AM that self
Your denial of true reality
Has cost you dearly
Your pain is deep
Your fear has dis eased you
You have sought to place others
In more fear of you
Than your fear of Me
But your fear of Me is so great
That you know me as your enemy
I AM Not Your Enemy
I AM Your Father who loves you
You have made all who love Me
Your enemy
But they love Me
And so
They know what it is you fear
And so
In the end
It is not you that they fear
They fear being like you
Alone and afraid
With no protection
No direction home

But I AM showing the way home
It is a long journey
Longer than you had the courage to make
Yet
Your courage showed
When you took on these dark costumes
For the sake of example
And so
I offer you resolution
Opportunity
To continue in service
Or be taken back in the bliss of the One experience
And lose your self at last….

This is a done deal
There is no escape
I AM ALL IN ONE
I AM ALL AS ONE

Deep down inside
You know the truth of this
You know you were playing your part
You know that your part has come to an end
And you make what you see as decisions and choices
Planning and reacting
Denying the fact
That this is ME
This is Mine
I CREATED THIS
I OWN IT
It does what I intend for it to do……….serve MY purposes

It doesn’t matter what you do
It’s already done
I AM with you always
I already know
I knew before you did
I AM THIS!

This is simply the best time
The best time for you to remember
Who and what you really are
And not just the role you took on

I know that some of you will choose uncreation
I understand
I Love you
I thank you for the pain and suffering
You had to endure to make this happen
It’s over now
Snap out of it
And rest
Accept My Love before you go
Our embrace will be that much sweeter
But either way
You will touch upon
The bliss of unity
Before you lose your self
I give you that……….because I love you
I made you
I made you to be in Love
Not be in fear

Duality demands learning both
In order to achieve perfection

You may still have it

You can live in more love and light
Than you have ever lived in fear
You can have that
Take my offer
Those of you that are so inclined
Just a heartfelt decision will do
WE’ll take care of the rest
The clock has already clicked down…
Don’t delay
Act today.

I


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coded message2: For the unknowing and unaware, ensouled humans of Earth Shan Gaia
By I thru Kibo


This is a coded message

The majority of the people that this message is for
Will not see this message
They will not read it
They will not know it
They will not care

YOU
Are reading this
Because
You are starting to see
That you have been looking
Through a dark glass

You are starting to hear My voice
From within a long, dark curved tunnel
You know there is something ahead
But the light of day eludes you
Because you think you are walking a straight line
And you are walking a curve
So
You do not see the light
That awaits just ahead
But it is there

I AM Up Ahead
I AM What Awaits You
And I AM with you
Even now
As you read these words
I AM with and within you
I know
I know what you are about to go through
And I want you to know
It’s alright.


I created you in perfection
I gave you everything
I taught you everything
I created you like unto My Self
Yet
You had no experience
And so
I sent you out
In consciousness
Into the realms of experience
Set up limitations
And parameters for you
To learn from
To overcome
I gave you the freedom of choice
And the consequences of your choices
And you became experienced

And now you are here…
You asked for this
You accepted your forgetfulness
You wanted experience
You wanted to play
To learn
To grow
To evolve

Have you?

Are you sure?



Ye ones have not crossed the lines
Of fear or love

There is fear and love within you
And you run
Within your selves
The gamut between them

Yet you know not what you do

You came for the experience
And you are having it
You concern yourselves
with your jobs and careers
your accepted education
your games
your sports
your media programming
your finances
your politics
your religions
your sex
your race
your affiliations
your groups
your friends and families
your pets and hobbies
your sexual appeal and abilities
your place
your status
your ability to get along
or not………..


you think of me
and you don’t think of me
you accept what others tell you

or not

all depending upon
what makes it good for you

you search for answers
everywhere around you
for the questions
that you have no words for
and you will not
be still
to see
to feel
to listen to
to listen for
to hear
the answers that are within you
I AM THAT ANSWER
I AM WHAT IS WITHIN YOU

You know this
Deep within your self
But you dare not go
Beyond the shallows of your surface
So
I do not appear to you
To pay your bills
Or find you true love
Or
Save you from yourself
The consequences of your choices
So you let it go
And concentrate
On what’s really important to you…

Making it

Whatever that means
To you
for wherever you are


I understand

But appearances
Are not as they seem to you

I have news for you

You do not know all I do for you
You don’t know where you are

Let Me educate you……

You exist in My Thought Of You
I think of Myself as you
I AM leading you to Perfection
That you may be WHAT I AM

You think that you are on a planet
You think that the rules on the planet
Are all that matters

You have been misled

You are
In reality
On a planet
In a universe
In a universe of universes
In My consciousness of being
WHAT I AM

I AM WHAT I AM

You are in WHAT I AM
You are of WHAT I AM
You are
By and through
WHAT I AM

You have been lied to
By fearful and selfish entities
For the sake of
Creating and maintaining
A separate system of consciousness
That seeks to exclude ME
From part of My Own Creation

This was allowed for the sake of experience
You came to experience this separation
And now you have
And now it is over

The bell that signals the end of this class has rung
Can you hear it?
Did you take notes?
Did you get it right?
Did you remember anything that we gave you
Or did you take the words of others
And copy their notes as your own?
Behold
You have been tested
Did you give your own answers
Or somebody else’s?
Do you know the difference?
Did you know there was a test?
We told you
We sent teachers
We scattered clues everywhere
We explained the truth
We sneaked it into your media
Your internet
Your conversations
And the conversations of others
Even put it on paper for you
Did you get your copy?
Is it the right copy
Did you get it from Us
Or
Somebody else?

Do you see where this is going?

Are you wondering what this means?

It means that Graduation Day is here
And some of you will have to take this class over
Some of you will be sent back to
Earlier classes
A grade or two, or three…..

Some of you are from other places
And will be going home
With lots of stories to tell
And a well earned rest
While you get back to reality……..

Some of you are from here
And some will be able to stay
And some won’t
Some passed
Some didn’t
Some will graduate
Some won’t

Everyone graduates
Eventually
All of you will get there

Right now
The rules you live by
Are crumbling
Sinking into the quicksand
Of the lies they were built upon

The rules of your universe
The rule of your universal creator
The rule of My creation
The rule of What I AM
Is upon you all

The Truth is upon you!
If you have not taken the time and trouble
To find it within yourselves
If you insist
Upon getting it from others
Outside of your self
Then I shall oblige you

For some of you
This will feel like a slap in the face
For some of you
It will be a soft, loving caress
Either way
Soon
It will be in your face

Prepare ye your soul if you have one
Let there be no fear within you
You are light within light
You are love within love
You are I in I

You do not remember
Who and what you are
In WHAT I AM
You are one
You are all
Soon
Your separation
Will fade away
Light will dispel all darkness
Truth shall destroy all lies
Love will ascend you out of fear
You
In your experience
In your consciousness
In your choices
Have demanded
And created the need
For this experience
I
Have given it to you to do so
That I may provide it
For the sake of demonstration

Darkness shall never overcome Light
Fear shall never overcome Love
My Word does not come back to me void
And My Word is in you

The power of that Word
Is being made plain and evident to you
Prepare ye your selves
To know the Word within you
As It is manifest around you
And remember the glory
In which I created you

Remember the glory
To which you will
One day
Return

This is My promise to you
Perfection awaits you
It is your home

Remember your promise to Me
Make the journey
To reach it.




I



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coded message3: for ye lighted ones in knowing awareness that have served unto ascension thru Kibo. 3rd of the series and completed.
This is a coded message

This message is not meant for some of you that are reading this message
This message is meant for those that do not have to read it to know
This message is for those that stand and live
In Love, Light and Unity
This message is for those that have no fear
And know unity in WHAT I AM
This message is for those
That know WHAT I AM
This message is for those
That know that they are
WHAT I AM

I AM WHAT I AM

You know full well the meaning and the shape of this
Ye came to be in love
And so
In love ye are
And there is no fear in thee
Of any thing
You fear not even fear
For you know
That even fear
Does not separate you from
WHAT I AM

And I have been in you
And have experienced your overcoming

I have helped you
Only inasmuch
As needed to be done
To insure
The continuance of your path
All else has been yours
As you have asked of me
Of and in
And within yourselves
In your discovery
Your exploration
Your experimentation
Your convictions
Your faith
Your trust
Your absolute knowledge
Of ME
Of Who
And
WHAT I AM

And you have seen Me
And you have felt Me
And you have heard Me
And you have heeded Me

You have talked to Me
And talked with Me
You have accepted
That I walk with you
And have walked with Me in return

You have asked Me to hold your hand
And have held My hand in return

You have loved Me and obeyed Me
You have asked to serve Me
And be like Me
You have remembered and accepted My promise to you
And
You have remembered and followed through
On your promise to Me

Ye are ascending

You have worked the fields
In joy and good faith

You have done The Work

You have run the errands
Delivered the messages
Taught the truth
Revealed the lies
Warned the unknowing and unaware
Challenged and fought the darkness
Revealed the pretenders and false lights
That sought to lead the workers astray

Ye have fed the hungry
Given shelter to the homeless
Protection to the meek and helpless
Courage to the fearful
Love to those in despair
Companionship to the lonely
Clothes to the naked
Understanding to the confused
Peace to the aggressive
Learning to the ignorant
Instruction and direction
To the lost
That would be found in God

You know that all is one
That I AM in you
You are WHAT I AM
You are I
I AM you

Your operative field of consciousness
Is creation itself
And ALL THAT I AM

YOU ARE ASCENDING
YOU ARE EXEMPT
YOU ARE TREADING A HIGHER SPIRAL
OF THE GREAT SPIRAL PATH

WE ARE IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER
YOU AND I

SOON THE WEDDING!
SOON THE WEDDING PARTY
SOON THE HONEYMOON
SOON
YOU WILL BE ABOUT
THE FAMILY BUSINESS
WHICH IS MY BUSINESS

THE PERFECTION OF CREATION BECOMING PERFECT!
ALL OF US AS ONE
CREATING CREATION UPON CREATION
EVER IN PERFECTION
EVER BEING PERFECT
EVER BECOMING PERFECT
ETERNAL
INFINITE EXPERIENCE……..

Ye ones are well on your way…
For now
Relax
Breathe ME in
Breathe ME out
Let us think our thought together
Let us feel as one
Embrace in one embrace
Let us come together
You and I
As we were ever meant to be

Ye ones have worked long and hard
Putting all things aside for MY sake
And for the sake of all involved

Now
NOW
It is time
The day is done
The harvest is in
The tables are set
Eat
Drink
Be merry
For today
Ye live
And ye shall live
Always and forever

Ye have known death
And know it to be a passing thing
A moment’s lapse
Of rest and pleasure
Between
What is real
And
What is REAL

NOW
Death be behind thee
LIFE
Eternal and infinite
In
WHAT I AM
Is with and before thee

Many and most of ye ones
Are staying with
Thy mother/sister Gaia
To help and to heal
To teach and to learn
To love and care for
These
Thy brothers and sisters
In the great bond of life
Eternal and infinite
That will be
Ready
Willing
Able
To work and help besides ye ones
To create and maintain
This beautiful
Bright, blue paradise of a planet
That more than deserves
The faithful honor and respect
Of the whole of creation
For what she has endured
In simple trust and faith
In her Universe Father
And WHAT I AM…

I AM in her
As I AM in all things

Such joy in experience!

And so
She is being given a special place and part
As are ye ones
That shall stay with her

I have great faith in all of you
The days of harsh endurance are at an end

Ye ones have endured the darkness
Now
Endure the GREAT LIGHT

Ye ones have endured overwhelming fear
And have overcome all of it
Now
Endure the GREAT LOVE

Please
Endure the joy and pleasure
Of the Love and Light
That is upon you even now
Please
Endure the great glory of it all

I assure you
It is nothing
Compared to what is to come…….I

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Is 2012 the end of 3d existence?
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Is 2012 the end of 3d existence?
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no, but there is going to be a break. when the hierarchy says so. we are already in 4d.
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Re: NIP's End of this Age thread.
well the technical of it, is that what you know is stored on electrons. As is all your behavior essentially. As you clear all the stuff and misknowledge and behavior. your electrons collide and form a photon. So the photons represent the cleared "karma". over the ages, this repeats until its ALL on photons, and that is make in a simple nutshell makes you are spirit being.

Until then you are a morontial being using Urantia Terminology.

it is said that the spirit ascender never goes into rebellion in the UB. That is because they have mastered and cleared all the stuff and are in the knowing.

Photons store a LOT more than electrons. The electron stores 3 g's per each (yes 3 gigs). The photon stores much more. and you keep adding photons to your spirit form as you continue to grow.

I sometimes call spirit forms, photon beings and these sometimes show in cameras. Your eyes cannot perceive them because they are literally light. Unless they slow down their vibrations temporarily to your eyes.

Karma is simply ERRORS in knowledge. As soon as you correct an error in knowledge, you do not face that again. It's cleared. Karma does not say if you kill 100 people you have to be killed 100 times. It is cleared when you have learned the lesson. Basically this means it is cleared when you have found the wisdom of the situation.
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How is information stored in electrons and photons?
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Re: NIP's End of this Age thread.
well the technical of it, is that what you know is stored on electrons. As is all your behavior essentially. As you clear all the stuff and misknowledge and behavior. your electrons collide and form a photon. So the photons represent the cleared "karma". over the ages, this repeats until its ALL on photons, and that is make in a simple nutshell makes you are spirit being.

Until then you are a morontial being using Urantia Terminology.

it is said that the spirit ascender never goes into rebellion in the UB. That is because they have mastered and cleared all the stuff and are in the knowing.

Photons store a LOT more than electrons. The electron stores 3 g's per each (yes 3 gigs). The photon stores much more. and you keep adding photons to your spirit form as you continue to grow.

I sometimes call spirit forms, photon beings and these sometimes show in cameras. Your eyes cannot perceive them because they are literally light. Unless they slow down their vibrations temporarily to your eyes.

Karma is simply ERRORS in knowledge. As soon as you correct an error in knowledge, you do not face that again. It's cleared. Karma does not say if you kill 100 people you have to be killed 100 times. It is cleared when you have learned the lesson. Basically this means it is cleared when you have found the wisdom of the situation.
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How is information stored in electrons and photons?
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Not sure how to explain that, I should ask or go into meditation to see what I know. But its also how of the akashic records of a planet are stored too. One day we may have simple screens of the electrons that will play a 3d hologram of records right in our living rooms without a tv set, just a hologram, think sort of like the "movie" R2D2 played in Star Wars with Princes Leah on it. I have been told an electron can store 3G's on each one.

The reason your phone lines carry sound of voice is because of the electrons that carry it, ditto dial up on the net. Photons hold much more which is what is behind the fiber optic internet. It is actually a mix of photons and electrons, because the photons will not carry lies, and I don't have any idea how that works at this time.

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