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A federal appeals court in Atlanta ruled Friday that a provision in President Obama's health care law requiring citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional, but the court didn't strike down the rest of the law.

The decision is a major setback for the White House, which had appealed a ruling by a lower court judge who struck down the entire law in January. But given that another appeals court, in Cincinnati, has upheld the law, it is increasingly clear that the Supreme Court will have the final say...


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Unconstitutional!!
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It probably won't change anything though.... its never more than just a "set back".
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How will the Feds be able to massively increase spending without Obamacare? I guess they'll come up with something.
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First the Dems only win back two seat in Wisconsin and now this. It's been a bad week for Polly.
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"health care law requiring citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional"

Fuck SUS!
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about darn time someone shows a little common sense
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Barack Obama in 2008: Against a health insurance mandate

Obama on mandates

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"If a mandate was the solution, we could try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody buy a house. The reason they don't have a house is they don't have the money. So our focus has been on reducing costs, making it available. I am confident that if people have a chance to buy high quality health care that is affordable, they will do so. And that's what our plan does, and nobody disputes that."
~Barack Obama, 2/5/08 (as a candidate for the Democratic nomination)

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"In order to force people to get health insurance, you have to have a very harsh, stiff penalty - and Senator Clinton has said 'We will go after their wages.' Now, this is a substantive difference; but understand that both of us seek to get universal health care. I have a substantive difference with Senator Clinton on how to get there."

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Excerpt from Obama radio ad that ran in Iowa:

[Male announcer]: But here's the real difference on health care. Senators Edwards and Clinton favor mandates which the Daily Iowan says would, quote, force those who cannot afford health insurance to buy it, punishing those who don't fall in line.

[Female Announcer]: As the Concord Monitor says, when it comes to honesty about health care, Obama has the edge.
-Source: AdWatch of 2008 campaign ad, Health care Jan 1, 2008
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Why not provide health care through taxes like the rest of the world does? Nobody would need to buy insurance then.

Right now the poor, the illegals, and the elderly get tax paid healthcare.

It is the middle class who are in need also and who are footing the bill for everyone else.

I was looking at insurance for my family and the most I could afford was a 20k deductible. That is insane. It only provides for catastrophic care. No doctor visits, no prescriptions no nothing.

So we never go to doctors and deal with stuff ourselves. But the poor down the street get to see a doctor and dentist for free off of my tax dollars while my family never darkens a doctors door unless we are close to death and maybe not even that.
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ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME ! NOW ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ARREST BARRY AND SEND HIM TO GITMO FOR SEDITION!clappa
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I know the answer!

Don't get sick you idiots!

Eat more fresh fruit!
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Why not provide health care through taxes like the rest of the world does? Nobody would need to buy insurance then.

Right now the poor, the illegals, and the elderly get tax paid healthcare.

It is the middle class who are in need also and who are footing the bill for everyone else.

I was looking at insurance for my family and the most I could afford was a 20k deductible. That is insane. It only provides for catastrophic care. No doctor visits, no prescriptions no nothing.

So we never go to doctors and deal with stuff ourselves. But the poor down the street get to see a doctor and dentist for free off of my tax dollars while my family never darkens a doctors door unless we are close to death and maybe not even that.
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another moron who doesnt understand the nature of the federal income tax system. The federal income tax is your usage fee for accepting and endorsing private credit from the Federal Reserve. That tax does not go toward any government programs.
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"health care law requiring citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional"

Fuck SUS!
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bump
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Somebody needs to just beat the living fuck out of the punk politicians talking about going after people's money for not buying their fucking bullshit heath insurance. FUCK THEM.
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Motherfucking crazy bastards & bitches. LMAO. Who do they think they are? Are they getting senile?
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Barry has little regard for the constitution so this will mean very little to him, but it is another set back for him.

Also...

Barry was forced to welcome the NFL Superbowl Champion Green Bay Packers this afternoon at the White House. Two devastating blows in one day for the Chicago community organizer.
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A federal appeals court in Atlanta ruled Friday that a provision in President Obama's health care law requiring citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional, but the court didn't strike down the rest of the law.

The decision is a major setback for the White House, which had appealed a ruling by a lower court judge who struck down the entire law in January. But given that another appeals court, in Cincinnati, has upheld the law, it is increasingly clear that the Supreme Court will have the final say...


It continues here...

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Bye Bye baby!
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A Democratic judge too? thanks op for some good news.
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So, how now can healthcare be a system that does not bankrupt people or make them not go and die or be cripple for nothing?
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Why not provide health care through taxes like the rest of the world does? Nobody would need to buy insurance then.

Right now the poor, the illegals, and the elderly get tax paid healthcare.

It is the middle class who are in need also and who are footing the bill for everyone else.

I was looking at insurance for my family and the most I could afford was a 20k deductible. That is insane. It only provides for catastrophic care. No doctor visits, no prescriptions no nothing.

So we never go to doctors and deal with stuff ourselves. But the poor down the street get to see a doctor and dentist for free off of my tax dollars while my family never darkens a doctors door unless we are close to death and maybe not even that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502337


another moron who doesnt understand the nature of the federal income tax system. The federal income tax is your usage fee for accepting and endorsing private credit from the Federal Reserve. That tax does not go toward any government programs.
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Yes, but initially the poster just said "taxes" and didn't specify income taxes. Later s/he seems to confuse it with income tax.... Some other countries use sales taxes to fund their socialist healthcare.
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This is all a SHOW to make you think there is really a "justice" system.

This case will go before SCOTUS. Those CRIMINALS will of course uphold CommieCare -- BILLIONS in tax dollars (you have paid for your own demise!) over YEARS (that's right! even before the bill "passed!") have been spent in preparation for Commiecare, and there is NO WAY that ship is turning around.

A friend has an old TIME magazine article on the SCOTUS justices. It contains a RARE shot (try to find one!) of Ginsburg sitting in her chair. The chair is high-backed, and on the back are carved a pyramid and an all-seeing eye.

These guys are actors.

Oh, and BTW -- SCOTUS hasn't used the CONstitution as the basis for a ruling since 1938 (look up Erie Railroad vs. Tompkins). That's why NO JUDGE will allow ANY attorney to cite ANY SCOTUS ruling pre 1939 in his courtroom. Since 1938 they have been using the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) after a "secret emergency meeting" of all federal judges was called by FDR's goons. Of course they are NOT going to tell YOU that!!

Don't believe a word of this charade.

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So, how now can healthcare be a system that does not bankrupt people or make them not go and die or be cripple for nothing?
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Clearly, it's not really not your business. Now, go away. Neverlandtard.
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Is insurance also a socialist thing? Insurance is a system where many people pay a bit, so a few can have a big pay out when needed, to compensate for their loss or destruction.
Insurance is in the market place, but has elements of socialist stuff. Is it a bad thing to be able to be insured cos it is socialist? (Insured against shoplifting, fire damage, floods.....whatever).
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It will go to the Supreme Court now.

Should be very, very interesting...

We will know once and for all if the Supreme Court is in line with the NWO.
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I have an idea... I'm about to do something that is well beyond the scope of most politicians... I'm going to use COMMON SENSE. Here we go...

We need to reform health care, make it accessible to more people. Well, how about a free-market system? Ya know, kinda like the system for EVERY OTHER GOOD OR SERVICE IN AMERICA! In order to stay in business, each provider would have to offer a good product at a fair price, otherwise no one will buy it. Ya know, kinda like General Motors LOL!

I ran this by a libtard friend of mine, and he says it will never work because of greed. I say it WILL work for precisely that reason. If they want to be successful (make money) they will be forced to provide affordable rates.

Or am I just smoking too much crack?
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Why not provide health care through taxes like the rest of the world does? Nobody would need to buy insurance then.

Right now the poor, the illegals, and the elderly get tax paid healthcare.

It is the middle class who are in need also and who are footing the bill for everyone else.

I was looking at insurance for my family and the most I could afford was a 20k deductible. That is insane. It only provides for catastrophic care. No doctor visits, no prescriptions no nothing.

So we never go to doctors and deal with stuff ourselves. But the poor down the street get to see a doctor and dentist for free off of my tax dollars while my family never darkens a doctors door unless we are close to death and maybe not even that.
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What crappy company do you work for that doesn't have a healthcare plan?
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So, how now can healthcare be a system that does not bankrupt people or make them not go and die or be cripple for nothing?
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Clearly, it's not really not your business. Now, go away. Neverlandtard.
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It is not really not my business indeed. How America acts and how it gets fucked or not affect us all. And some insane politicians have stood up in my country with some of the least good ideas coming from America.
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I have an idea... I'm about to do something that is well beyond the scope of most politicians... I'm going to use COMMON SENSE. Here we go...

We need to reform health care, make it accessible to more people. Well, how about a free-market system? Ya know, kinda like the system for EVERY OTHER GOOD OR SERVICE IN AMERICA! In order to stay in business, each provider would have to offer a good product at a fair price, otherwise no one will buy it. Ya know, kinda like General Motors LOL!

I ran this by a libtard friend of mine, and he says it will never work because of greed. I say it WILL work for precisely that reason. If they want to be successful (make money) they will be forced to provide affordable rates.

Or am I just smoking too much crack?
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That's the system that we have now for the most part.

The flawed thinking of Obama and similar others is that people don't have insurance because they can't afford it.

The truth is that those who TRULY can't afford it can get it for free in most cases, and there are those that CHOOSE not to pay for it cause they'd rather have cable television, an I-Phone and a family vacation. It's about setting priorities.
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Is insurance also a socialist thing? Insurance is a system where many people pay a bit, so a few can have a big pay out when needed, to compensate for their loss or destruction.
Insurance is in the market place, but has elements of socialist stuff. Is it a bad thing to be able to be insured cos it is socialist? (Insured against shoplifting, fire damage, floods.....whatever).
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Yes, but it's OPTIONAL. Not government owned and operated, not forced taxes supporting it.

Quite a different matter when you agree to get in a pool with others, and you pick the pool.
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5 stars for you Cheops....I hope we are right in hoping that it will go away.
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It probably won't change anything though.... its never more than just a "set back".
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Yea, unfortunately that is how it seems to work.

We really don't need to worry about changing one measly little law here and there. We NEED a reset! Kick these Mo Fo
s aside and do something different.

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