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The Sumerians in fact did do just that, and not just three, or five (as the babylonians infered), but all twelve. The Chinese zodiac is a derivitive of the Sumer/Greek.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


The chinese came from Babylon after the tower of Babel. All these pagan religions come from Babylon or Sumer. Gary Kah has a world religion chart.
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That doesn't mean the zodiac is anything more than a pagan counterfit religion that goes with the sun worship from the maji.
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Babylon was founded by Noah's g-grandson just as the Bible says. The dating techniques used by the pagans claiming Sumer is the oldest civ ever have been discredited by other scientists.
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Got a credible link to that? ( by credible I don't mean some woo woo evangelical site}
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You are welcome to research Nimrod. I use all sources and do not censor any.
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Babylon and the Bible
Author: Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD

Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed. The only record could be found in the Bible. Critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings," to discount Scripture. However, Babylon was discovered and excavated in 1898.

We know today that Babylon was one of the first cities in the world, and founded by Nimrod, great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:9-10). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.

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 Quoting: DW 1505029


Veith: interesting guy and a great spin-doctor. Never trust a man who follows a religion created by a crazy necromancer. I do enjoy his lectures which I take as a grain of salt same as everyone else.

(seventh-day Adventists)
 Quoting: GUANO


Baseless namecalling. Doesn't disprove anything posted.

Babylon was founded by Noah's g-grandson just as the Bible says. The dating techniques used by the pagans claiming Sumer is the oldest civ ever have been discredited by other scientists.
 Quoting: DW 1505029


name calling? who did I call a name? Ellen G. White communicated with her dead husband.

I never said that Sumer wasn't founded by Nimrod. I assume you're a Christian so I'm just warning you of a dangerous (albeit interesting) cult--The Bible speaks negatively of those who practice necromancy. Sure, there are good people in the SDA church but you can say that of just about every religion.
 Quoting: GUANO


You are off topic. Walter Veith was a college professor at a secular uni and a Christian presenting the evidence on Babylon and the Bible, there was nothing there about EGW. I am not an SDA but i do study with all Historicists (non denominational) since the Jesuits created all Futurists sects (christian-zionists). However, i have looked into many of these attacks on EGW and 99% are groundless; for instance, SDA do not believe is communication with the dead; they agree with the Bible, the dead are in their graves awaiting the Second Coming. EGW can be disproven biblically but that is another day. I'm not about defending them although most of their theology is correct and biblical.
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The formula for HELL:

1. Fear God.
Easy to control.

2. Ignore God's warning about JUDGMENT.
The knowledge of good and evil.

3. Ignore Jesus' example / teaching of compassion / understanding.
Replace w/ idle worship if it makes you feel better.

4. Believe that death is the end. It may not be.

5. Just keep waiting for what we already have.

6. Die.

7. Start over...



Imagine that God created us IN HIS IMAGE by SEPARATING CONSCIOUSNESS.

Mind control uses FEAR/TRAUMA to induce split personalities/consciousness.

Could it be FEAR from THE FALL that is still keeping us separated from God?
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as a hunter i track prints.
same is possible with religious beliefs.
there is a beast afoot, predating upon
the life forms of this planet.
its tracks are witnessed in sumer, . .
and beyond the curtain of antiquity.
i've made a particular study of this
beast. it does not like being visible or
known.
it loves blood, burnt ox and goat kidneys, . .and fat.
it can't get enough fat.
follow its spoor to its lair, it dwells
in the dark pit amidst the bones of countless
lost souls.
it is a horrible thing that it has done to
our ancestors and to us.
time, now, to claim our freedom, our cosmic destiny.
this is what the beast fears most.
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08/14/2011 08:32 AM
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
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Astrotheology and hallucenogens !!!

see the movie, 'the PHARMACRATIC INQUISITION', for good info.
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Book of Enoch was pre summerian.
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Me thinks, source of all religions would be ancient Atlantis/Lemuria.

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It was a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor...

..it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt,a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
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I have spent my life studying manuscripts old writings. There is one thing that carries over in all beliefs. No pedophiles will be allowed. No bankers who exploit.
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you got it OP! you must have read zecharia sitchins book series the cosmic code?

we are all ancestors of the annunaki. the gods. does anyone really think this was made up from scratch? ill tell you what, people knew a lot more about who and what we are thousands of years ago then we do today.

we are genetically engineered, a mix between the ape and the gods.

dont believe me? evolution cannot disprove the evidence that man was in fact created. nor can any other area of science. they all point towards creation.

get your history straight! then join teh conversation ...
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grizzy It seems to me that there are a lot of people on this thread who are also on the Mock Now - Pay Later Plan. I don't recommend it, the paybacks a real bitch.

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I get a big kick out of reading the endless mish-mosh of religious dogma and everyones hostile opinion of it on here. What completely boggles my mind is that (new glp'rs aside) all you religiholics can not possibly have missed reading about astro-theology and the given references of the ancient Sumerian tablets which have been deciphered for our perusal.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You have heard of the phrase "Follow the Money", well, just use that tactic in regards religion and follow the myth. Don't waist your time getting bogged down in the endless minutiae ALL THE VARIOUS RELIGIONS offer. Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the rest owe a big thank you to the Sumarian mythology.

That is your source.

Go to it and be a highly informed individual that can proudly discuss with others the origin of religion without feeling like you are not quite telling the truth. Everyone else is just trying to make a buck on the ignorance of suckers.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


GOD is GOD no matter WHAT religion one belongs to.

Anyone, regardless of their beliefs, KNOW that tptb have tried to use religion as a control device. It doesn't work to those who have a relationship with God and His Son.

Why is it people have to JUDGE everything?? When will people let go of their prejudices, whether it's race, or religion? What the hell is wrong with those who persecute???

God, the Creator, loves ALL of every creed, every religion, every race. It is HE that is the JUDGE, not mortals here.
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you got it OP! you must have read zecharia sitchins book series the cosmic code?

we are all ancestors of the annunaki. the gods. does anyone really think this was made up from scratch? ill tell you what, people knew a lot more about who and what we are thousands of years ago then we do today.

we are genetically engineered, a mix between the ape and the gods.

dont believe me? evolution cannot disprove the evidence that man was in fact created. nor can any other area of science. they all point towards creation.

get your history straight! then join teh conversation ...
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GOD is the creator of all LIFE in the universe including ALIEN life.
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that's why they call them...chURches.

Inanna's house.

and old woman and her dog.
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Actually, "church" comes from the word "Circes" who was the sorceress that turned Odysseus' men into pigs (haha), and from whence we get the word "circus" (how apropos).
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


What total bullshit. Ecclesia ("community") was the new testament word for the church, not circus, dickhead. Circus was the enemy of the believers. "Church" comes from the old, high german "kirk" a place of worship, whichnis why a church building is not THE church, or community.
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It does not matter where when or how RELIGION was created or by whom.

This is just another one of those hate filled religion persecution threads.
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you got it OP! you must have read zecharia sitchins book series the cosmic code?

we are all ancestors of the annunaki. the gods. does anyone really think this was made up from scratch? ill tell you what, people knew a lot more about who and what we are thousands of years ago then we do today.

we are genetically engineered, a mix between the ape and the gods.

dont believe me? evolution cannot disprove the evidence that man was in fact created. nor can any other area of science. they all point towards creation.

get your history straight! then join teh conversation ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493137


GOD is the creator of all LIFE in the universe including ALIEN life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487670


im not denying that. it is very possible that the annunaki themselves were created. however, at the moment, their is no EVIDENCE of that.
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How and from where did you learn of SUmerian texts? Zacheria sit chin?

Are you positively sure he translated them all right? How do you know for sure what the Sumerians said and wrote on those tablets?
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The OP is correct in that all organized religions originated in Sumer are correct; but the main premise of this thread, that this is the ultimate source is highly incorrect, it is but penultimate.

Sumer was the turning point, the start of both organized false religion and money, but key to full understanding lies in what transpired to transform humanity to the path we know as civilization and away from agrarian farmers.

The priests studied their God, His every move. They eventually learned to predict His position in regard to other astronomical bodies, perfected the art of eclipse prediction. This gave them great power over the superstitious and uneducated rabble, as now they could "control" God, "own" Him, and could demonstrate their mastery to the rabble.

Next was putting spear tips to slaves, make them dig gold, which was fashioned into disks in His likeness. These religious trinkets, warm, heavy, intrinsically pleasing, bearing His likeness became highly sought.

Now the priesthood had additional power, the power to store and control wealth; the initiation of the golden rule, IE, he who has the gold rules.

These were the turning points, the key events that enabled the few to assign tasks to the many, which led irrevocably to civilization, in this case Sumer.

Little is different today, and without firm grasp of these basic concepts nothing will fundamentally change in mans affairs...
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I get a big kick out of reading the endless mish-mosh of religious dogma and everyones hostile opinion of it on here. What completely boggles my mind is that (new glp'rs aside) all you religiholics can not possibly have missed reading about astro-theology and the given references of the ancient Sumerian tablets which have been deciphered for our perusal.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You have heard of the phrase "Follow the Money", well, just use that tactic in regards religion and follow the myth. Don't waist your time getting bogged down in the endless minutiae ALL THE VARIOUS RELIGIONS offer. Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the rest owe a big thank you to the Sumarian mythology.

That is your source.

Go to it and be a highly informed individual that can proudly discuss with others the origin of religion without feeling like you are not quite telling the truth. Everyone else is just trying to make a buck on the ignorance of suckers.
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Yeah, you just disproved religion. Great job!
Now click on the link in my signature to get SCIENTIFIC PROOF!
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GOD is GOD no matter WHAT religion one belongs to.

Anyone, regardless of their beliefs, KNOW that tptb have tried to use religion as a control device. It doesn't work to those who have a relationship with God and His Son.

Why is it people have to JUDGE everything?? When will people let go of their prejudices, whether it's race, or religion? What the hell is wrong with those who persecute???

God, the Creator, loves ALL of every creed, every religion, every race. It is HE that is the JUDGE, not mortals here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487670


"GOD" = "GOD"

Interesting equation.

I see your definition of "GOD" still resembles a traditional monotheistic concept, a cosmic fatherly figure who resides on some heavenly thrown in the sky.

Instead of "GOD" being a conscious being transcendent to our perceived reality maybe "GOD" is a more impersonal force that emanates from within our consciousness and can be freely accessed internally without strict ideological belief structures and religious dictation.
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I get a big kick out of reading the endless mish-mosh of religious dogma and everyones hostile opinion of it on here. What completely boggles my mind is that (new glp'rs aside) all you religiholics can not possibly have missed reading about astro-theology and the given references of the ancient Sumerian tablets which have been deciphered for our perusal.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You have heard of the phrase "Follow the Money", well, just use that tactic in regards religion and follow the myth. Don't waist your time getting bogged down in the endless minutiae ALL THE VARIOUS RELIGIONS offer. Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the rest owe a big thank you to the Sumarian mythology.

That is your source.

Go to it and be a highly informed individual that can proudly discuss with others the origin of religion without feeling like you are not quite telling the truth. Everyone else is just trying to make a buck on the ignorance of suckers.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


No - true Christianity is NOT a religion - it is ONLY a saving relationship with Jesus! Satan created the worlds religions - man was created to worship God...man HAS to worship something - if a man rejects The One True and Living God, the void WILL be filled by something else. Religion is *mans* attempt to reach God on *mans own terms* - Christianity is God doing ALL the work and reaching man !
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the rest owe a big thank you to the Sumarian mythology.

That is your source.

Go to it and be a highly informed individual that can proudly discuss with others the origin of religion without feeling like you are not quite telling the truth. Everyone else is just trying to make a buck on the ignorance of suckers.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


Ahh perhaps those are the sources of the mythologies.. but what of the source behind the source? What are all these mythologies referring to?

I see there being two categories of "religion", the mainstream joe average layman's version, and the "hardcore" version dedicated monks spend years meditating on, which is what a monk who'd spend years "praying" is actually doing (same concept as say, mantra meditation, repeating some words or sound over and over to "self-hypnotize", so to speak. Which has nothing to do with any gods or son of gods or such misinterpretations.

To put it in a different way, the mainstream version is the "vehicle" that carries the message through time to ensure future generations access. Unfortunately certain politically motivated decisions sometimes distorts the message, such as how the bible was thrown together by means of a general consensus of different beliefs, and not by what 'text' was the most accurate.

Anyway I am fairly convinced that behind these mainstream religions exists the same message as is behind say.. Zen.

Interestingly enough, that is pretty much what Gnostic Christianity appears to be about:

Gnosticism is in itself derived from the Greek word gnosis, meaning knowledge. This is distinct from mere intellectual knowledge. Rather it implies a deeper mystical or direct understanding of the nature of existence. It has to do with experiencing the Divine directly within one’s own self.


Their version of Jesus makes sense in light of evidence the guy went to India in his youth to learn from the guru's there.

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If you want to know the source of all religion go to the following link and get the cartoon book Babylon Mystery Religion by David W. Daniel. [link to www.chick.com] It goes back to Nimrod and Semiramis in the first centuries after the flood. Christianity is not a religion, it is Jesus.
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No - true Christianity is NOT a religion - it is ONLY a saving relationship with Jesus! Satan created the worlds religions - man was created to worship God...man HAS to worship something - if a man rejects The One True and Living God, the void WILL be filled by something else. Religion is *mans* attempt to reach God on *mans own terms* - Christianity is God doing ALL the work and reaching man !
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And yet that very notion of Jesus and the relationship you are implying comes from the Constantine bible creation group, so you sort of are saying you worship satan's religious creation..
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When it comes to "astro-theology", there are no bigger believers than those fine folks at the Vatican. They are extremely pagan in so many ways:
St. Peter's Square is all astrological around the SUN (not SON). I just saw a video of how the obelesque aligns for the summer/winter solstices and the rising and setting of the SUN at those special times of year.
And once inside, one needs to look on the floor and see all the 12 astrological symbols engraved in the marble. And the Pope's miter hat? Look at it sideways and it is a FISH head symbolizing the fishes in the age of Pisces.
So much (but not all)about religion is a sham and created to control people.
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I'll stick with playdough and thump some cool images, they like that! (for those who can't think, Plato)

I always noticed the star info when reading the books, but it is hidden in plan site so the masses wont see it...


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tanks for this thread
im too fed up with this superstition tards

im very happy that they are so kind and put some shit with numbers from their tardbook in their signature and so i dont waste time reading their comments

thats what happens in a doom forum and plus on top of that that has the word god
Freethinker = ATHEIST so dont call me islamic nut, etc.

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No - true Christianity is NOT a religion - it is ONLY a saving relationship with Jesus! Satan created the worlds religions - man was created to worship God...man HAS to worship something - if a man rejects The One True and Living God, the void WILL be filled by something else. Religion is *mans* attempt to reach God on *mans own terms* - Christianity is God doing ALL the work and reaching man !
 Quoting: jdb


And yet that very notion of Jesus and the relationship you are implying comes from the Constantine bible creation group, so you sort of are saying you worship satan's religious creation..
 Quoting: nomind


Constantine Bible creation group...No! Prior manuscripts themselves. As for Satan - those who see him will gaze upon him with wonder saying, "is this the one that caused the Nations to tremble?" Come on man - all of it boils down to us either pursuing our own desires and ideas or surrendering to The One True and Living God - in The Book of Isiah God was not only clear but called us to reason..."Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, says Jehovah; though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be like wool."

It all real does come down to reason.
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Constantine Bible creation group...No! Prior manuscripts themselves. As for Satan - those who see him will gaze upon him with wonder saying, "is this the one that caused the Nations to tremble?" Come on man - all of it boils down to us either pursuing our own desires and ideas or surrendering to The One True and Living God - in The Book of Isiah God was not only clear but called us to reason..."Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, says Jehovah; though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be like wool."

It all real does come down to reason.
 Quoting: jdb


Old testament sure, but we're talking about Christianity, not Judaism - new testament was a political decision, and that is the part that is about "jesus". There's a thread around here with a link to documentary on youtube about just how it was put together, some 300+ years after the fact.
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as a hunter i track prints.
same is possible with religious beliefs.
there is a beast afoot, predating upon
the life forms of this planet.
its tracks are witnessed in sumer, . .
and beyond the curtain of antiquity.
i've made a particular study of this
beast. it does not like being visible or
known.
it loves blood, burnt ox and goat kidneys, . .and fat.
it can't get enough fat.
follow its spoor to its lair, it dwells
in the dark pit amidst the bones of countless
lost souls.
it is a horrible thing that it has done to
our ancestors and to us.
time, now, to claim our freedom, our cosmic destiny.
this is what the beast fears most.
 Quoting: anon 1391487


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