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The Source of ALL Religion

 
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So f..king what now.... jesus has been dead now for 2000 years, get over it dramaqueens.


He is not comming back, he is not doing anything for you.

You all belong to me now. Dont let the goodtimes end!
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08/14/2011 07:21 PM
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This is an example of why so many of us are tired of religitards. I know not all of you do it, but plenty of you do. You can not see the forest for the tree.

Or choose death.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
-Matt. 10:34
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


Marxist spin. The verse has nothing to do with the sword of violence. But as a non Christian you have no interest in preaching truth. Read the rest of the passage and it is about exactly what we are doing here, reasoning biblical truth and division between family.

"Religion was created by the rich, to keep the servants from stealing the silver ware off the table"
 Quoting: neverwasfooled 1203865


cruise
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


The rich come from Rome's empire which fell due to the Bible and Protestantism. Fail. The rich are evil masonic-marxist-illuminati, like you! The Bible says have no part with them. Fail.
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The OP is correct in that all organized religions originated in Sumer are correct; but the main premise of this thread, that this is the ultimate source is highly incorrect, it is but penultimate.
 Quoting: DFO 1461309


OP is a product of state MSM brainwashing.

An archaeological relic from Sumer does not prove it is the oldest text in textual criticism. The Bible is the oldest text on the planet confirmed by the SCIENCE and a long HISTORY.

Babylon and the Bible
Author: Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD

Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed. The only record could be found in the Bible. Critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings," to discount Scripture. However, Babylon was discovered and excavated in 1898.

We know today that Babylon was one of the first cities in the world, and founded by Nimrod, great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:9-10). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.

[link to amazingdiscoveries.org]
 Quoting: DW 1505029


No answer.. because there is no refuting the truth.
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I get a big kick out of reading the endless mish-mosh of religious dogma and everyones hostile opinion of it on here. What completely boggles my mind is that (new glp'rs aside) all you religiholics can not possibly have missed reading about astro-theology and the given references of the ancient Sumerian tablets which have been deciphered for our perusal.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

You have heard of the phrase "Follow the Money", well, just use that tactic in regards religion and follow the myth. Don't waist your time getting bogged down in the endless minutiae ALL THE VARIOUS RELIGIONS offer. Christianity, Islam, Judaism and all the rest owe a big thank you to the Sumarian mythology.

That is your source.

Go to it and be a highly informed individual that can proudly discuss with others the origin of religion without feeling like you are not quite telling the truth. Everyone else is just trying to make a buck on the ignorance of suckers.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


The Sumer tablets are the oldest known writing in stone as an archaeological relic, but that does not mean they are the oldest known text which is found in the book of Genesis according to textual criticism confirmed with a long HISTORY and SCIENCE. Nothing in the Sumer tablets can be confirmed as anything but a work of fiction of no more importance than little red ridding hood.(wiseman hypothesis)
 Quoting: Dr Dreksel Sidvikov Ph.D. 1497668


Yup.
 Quoting: Shephardi


hf
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08/14/2011 07:31 PM
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


That is just it, religious myth started from them, they are the source (as far as we currently know). Anything else we can infer from their mythology is just conjecture. If you study their myths you will understand where all the rest comes from.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


no -- no it did not
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08/14/2011 07:35 PM
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Book of Enoch was pre summerian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504318


Not. The only thing pre-Sumerian about the book of Enoch was the supposed time frame, if that, but it most certainly was not written prior to the Sumerian texts.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


books ????

texts ????

'writing' begins in the knots -- quipu knots -- ancient form of a 'data matrix' -- functioning just like the black square codes used in the world currently
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


That is just it, religious myth started from them, they are the source (as far as we currently know). Anything else we can infer from their mythology is just conjecture. If you study their myths you will understand where all the rest comes from.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


Now hold on one second. Our "modern day" religions are based on a PATRIARCH system. Before the patriarch system, there was a MATRIARCH system. Where did THOSE religions (if indeed they were religions) come from? Ever heard of the Great Mother Goddess?

[link to orderwhitemoon.org]

Earliest representations of the Great Mother Goddess date back at least the Upper Palaeolithic era (from 600,000 BCE to 8,000 BCE) and have been found all over Europe – from the Pyranees Mountains that divide Spain and southern France through to Siberia in the Soviet Union’s frozen wilderness.

The Sumerian Tablets do NOT date back that far.
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You gotta come to realize, accept the most
Holy Eucharist and you will make it through Trib and
the Chastisement to the new time of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504448


Yeah, that's the kind of god I'd want to be hooked up with. Do what I say or die you bitches!! And don't play wih your thingy or else...
churchlady
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


cruise
Faire et se taire
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you forgot the human desire to control and influence others

with threats of hell, promises of heaven and offerings of

indulgences.
Cryin Wont Help Ya

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that's why they call them...chURches.

Inanna's house.

and old woman and her dog.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504176


Actually, "church" comes from the word "Circes" who was the sorceress that turned Odysseus' men into pigs (haha), and from whence we get the word "circus" (how apropos).
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


What total bullshit. Ecclesia ("community") was the new testament word for the church, not circus, dickhead. Circus was the enemy of the believers. "Church" comes from the old, high german "kirk" a place of worship, whichnis why a church building is not THE church, or community.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504104


And the "old high german kirk" comes from the old low greek "circes" you asshat. I did not define what the word "church" meant, so your argument with me has absolutely no basis.
Faire et se taire
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Me thinks, source of all religions would be ancient Atlantis/Lemuria.

cool2
 Quoting: elsaviour


atlantis

:springspring:
:usofa:


the traces of lemuria today begin in viet nam....
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Amazing.

People with religion--preach their position.

People without religion..

..preach their position.

Both want to convert.

Amazing.
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the book of job was pre-Sumerian.


keep denying so you wont be held accountable for your actions.
 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1422307


NO biblical texts predate either the Sumerian, Egyptian or Babylonian texts. The "bible" was written during the Babylonian captivity and it was from Babylonian Mystery Religion that the Hebrew scriptures derive. This is a FACT, and no amount of denying will make all your fairy tales come true.
Faire et se taire
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source of all religion was imagination
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the book of job was pre-Sumerian.


keep denying so you wont be held accountable for your actions.
 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1422307


NO biblical texts predate either the Sumerian, Egyptian or Babylonian texts. The "bible" was written during the Babylonian captivity and it was from Babylonian Mystery Religion that the Hebrew scriptures derive. This is a FACT, and no amount of denying will make all your fairy tales come true.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


True, much of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible was written by the Hebrew priests who wished for the destruction of Babylon as well as the creation of a strong nation of their own. Fairy tales were inserted into history to create propaganda.
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


That is just it, religious myth started from them, they are the source (as far as we currently know). Anything else we can infer from their mythology is just conjecture. If you study their myths you will understand where all the rest comes from.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


This is older, 12,000 years ago, sea of Galilee too:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


And here's "first tongue":

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Proto-Hebrew in Oklahoma!(O.O)!, petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]
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Amazing.

People with religion--preach their position.

People without religion..

..preach their position.

Both want to convert.

Amazing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504246


Not quite...I don't even try to *convert*, that is The Work of The Holy Spirit! My job is to preach The Gospel to the lost!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!
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31Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1422307


loose the bands of Orion -- yes -- into Aquarius
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


That is just it, religious myth started from them, they are the source (as far as we currently know). Anything else we can infer from their mythology is just conjecture. If you study their myths you will understand where all the rest comes from.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


This is older, 12,000 years ago, sea of Galilee too:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


And here's "first tongue":

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Proto-Hebrew in Oklahoma!(O.O)!, petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Very interesting post, AC :) Thanks for the links!
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And what is the source of the Sumarian mythology?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


That is just it, religious myth started from them, they are the source (as far as we currently know). Anything else we can infer from their mythology is just conjecture. If you study their myths you will understand where all the rest comes from.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


This is older, 12,000 years ago, sea of Galilee too:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


And here's "first tongue":

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]


Proto-Hebrew in Oklahoma!(O.O)!, petroglyphs:

[link to www.viewzone.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030220


Very interesting post, AC :) Thanks for the links!
 Quoting: Khim


Yeah, I was surprised to see that the petroglyphs are everywhere, from Australia to America and everywhere in between, the oldest dating from 10,000 B.C. or before.
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The formula for HELL:

1. Fear God.
Easy to control.

2. Ignore God's warning about JUDGMENT.
The knowledge of good and evil.

3. Ignore Jesus' example / teaching of compassion / understanding.
Replace w/ idle worship if it makes you feel better.

4. Believe that death is the end. It may not be.

5. Just keep waiting for what we already have.

6. Die.

7. Start over...



_____________________________________________________________​________________



Imagine that God created us IN HIS IMAGE by SEPARATING CONSCIOUSNESS.

Mind control uses FEAR/TRAUMA to induce split personalities/consciousness.

Could it be FEAR from THE FALL that is still keeping us separated from God?

_____________________________________________________________​_________________


To be GODLIKE in Genesis means to know the difference between Good and Evil.

In reality... If you are GODLIKE... You will understand WHY WE ARE HERE...

And life may be just a little less stressful for you.

_____________________________________________________________​_________________


THE FALL FROM GRACE was when we decided to Ignore God's warning and JUDGE FOR OURSELVES,

After Adam and Eve ate the fruit they felt ashamed and were cursed.

The only way out is to FOLLOW JESUS'S EXAMPLE of compassion and understanding.
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So f..king what now.... jesus has been dead now for 2000 years, get over it dramaqueens.


He is not comming back, he is not doing anything for you.

You all belong to me now. Dont let the goodtimes end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397378

Wrong


2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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the book of job was pre-Sumerian.


keep denying so you wont be held accountable for your actions.
 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1422307


NO biblical texts predate either the Sumerian, Egyptian or Babylonian texts. The "bible" was written during the Babylonian captivity and it was from Babylonian Mystery Religion that the Hebrew scriptures derive. This is a FACT, and no amount of denying will make all your fairy tales come true.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


True, much of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible was written by the Hebrew priests who wished for the destruction of Babylon as well as the creation of a strong nation of their own. Fairy tales were inserted into history to create propaganda.
 Quoting: overmind


Book of Job is the oldest mainstream book there is, predates The Indian, Chinese and Sumerian texts/writings etc as the oldest confirmed.

If anything Summeria, has its roots in Noah and his sons, however some of the artifacts/sites may be preflood, so the interpretation is wrong by Op, not the actual facts, like so many things that people use to justify their self/ish/ness, as opposed to accepting YHVH/God as creator and therefore owner of everything, including us, hence justified in doing as YHVH/God wills.
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OP OP OP

does this, in your opinion, include eastern religions?
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The formula for HELL:

1. Fear God.
Easy to control.

2. Ignore God's warning about JUDGMENT.
The knowledge of good and evil.

3. Ignore Jesus' example / teaching of compassion / understanding.
Replace w/ idle worship if it makes you feel better.

4. Believe that death is the end. It may not be.

5. Just keep waiting for what we already have.

6. Die.

7. Start over...



_____________________________________________________________​________________



Imagine that God created us IN HIS IMAGE by SEPARATING CONSCIOUSNESS.

Mind control uses FEAR/TRAUMA to induce split personalities/consciousness.

Could it be FEAR from THE FALL that is still keeping us separated from God?

_____________________________________________________________​_________________


To be GODLIKE in Genesis means to know the difference between Good and Evil.

In reality... If you are GODLIKE... You will understand WHY WE ARE HERE...

And life may be just a little less stressful for you.

_____________________________________________________________​_________________


THE FALL FROM GRACE was when we decided to Ignore God's warning and JUDGE FOR OURSELVES,

After Adam and Eve ate the fruit they felt ashamed and were cursed.

The only way out is to FOLLOW JESUS'S EXAMPLE of compassion and understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485307


The word for "fear" in the original Hebrew and Greek means to: "run from" or to "run to" someone/something depending upon the context of the conversation.

So: "The fear(running to) of God is the beginning of wisdom."

I think running to the Lord God is wise considering how much satan hates people.
FHL(C)

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the book of job was pre-Sumerian.


keep denying so you wont be held accountable for your actions.
 Quoting: alexblanelayder 1422307


NO biblical texts predate either the Sumerian, Egyptian or Babylonian texts. The "bible" was written during the Babylonian captivity and it was from Babylonian Mystery Religion that the Hebrew scriptures derive. This is a FACT, and no amount of denying will make all your fairy tales come true.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


True, much of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible was written by the Hebrew priests who wished for the destruction of Babylon as well as the creation of a strong nation of their own. Fairy tales were inserted into history to create propaganda.
 Quoting: overmind


Book of Job is the oldest mainstream book there is, predates The Indian, Chinese and Sumerian texts/writings etc as the oldest confirmed.

If anything Summeria, has its roots in Noah and his sons, however some of the artifacts/sites may be preflood, so the interpretation is wrong by Op, not the actual facts, like so many things that people use to justify their self/ish/ness, as opposed to accepting YHVH/God as creator and therefore owner of everything, including us, hence justified in doing as YHVH/God wills.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


forgot to add book of job older than Egyptian or Babylonian, texts as well.

And to the writer claiming FACT, please share more
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you forgot the human desire to control and influence others

with threats of hell, promises of heaven and offerings of

indulgences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505616


Seriously. How mayest I win the lottery next week?
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You are so right OP. Have you read the lost book of Enki? It explains a lot that one can find in all religions.
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Is that one of Sitchin's books. I havn't read it yet, but am getting there.
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Babylon was founded by Noah's g-grandson just as the Bible says. The dating techniques used by the pagans claiming Sumer is the oldest civ ever have been discredited by other scientists.
 Quoting: DW 1505029


Got a credible link to that? ( by credible I don't mean some woo woo evangelical site}
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473514


You are welcome to research Nimrod. I use all sources and do not censor any.
 Quoting: DW 1505029


the Oldest civilization since the last big cleanse of the planet, OR THE REAL oldest civilization? There were large civilizations on this planet 1 million years ago, from colonization. The Black and Yellow races colonized that area well over 1 million years ago.

FACT: 5 global civilizations in the last 200,000 years have bit the dust. And now that some buried civilizations ARE being found, it is sure going to put a nail in the coffin of all that "history" suggesting no great ones have walked the earth before now.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


This is such a fascinating subject, so much more than reading fiction. I'm constantly keeping my eye out for more info on ancient civilizations. Main stream archeology has stifled the truth about how old artifacts are and ignore anything that doesn't quite fit into their view, like evolution. That is, if it doesn't fit the presuposed mold of evolution, then it is dismissed as rubbish. That is not true science at work, only an agenda disguised as science.
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The OP is correct in that all organized religions originated in Sumer are correct; but the main premise of this thread, that this is the ultimate source is highly incorrect, it is but penultimate.
 Quoting: DFO 1461309


OP is a product of state MSM brainwashing.

An archaeological relic from Sumer does not prove it is the oldest text in textual criticism. The Bible is the oldest text on the planet confirmed by the SCIENCE and a long HISTORY.

Babylon and the Bible
Author: Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD

Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed. The only record could be found in the Bible. Critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings," to discount Scripture. However, Babylon was discovered and excavated in 1898.

We know today that Babylon was one of the first cities in the world, and founded by Nimrod, great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:9-10). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.

[link to amazingdiscoveries.org]
 Quoting: DW 1505029


No answer.. because there is no refuting the truth.
 Quoting: DW 1505029


Wrong. No answer because I can't possibly sit here all day and night. Everything you have written in the above post with the incorrect assumption that the bible is older, I agree with you.

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