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Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?

 
NiNzrez

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Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
I believe we may have found the culprit for why we have seen this anomaly
Tomasgod1 and i, along with others on my GLP solar thread have been trying to figure this one out


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[link to tropic.ssec.wisc.edu]

talked about on this GLP thread:
I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS
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It is believed this was a Cosmic Ray Event (Gamma Ray) of unknown origin

cosmicray1
The shower of particles produced when Earth's atmosphere is struck by ultra-high-energy cosmic rays (the most energetic particles known in the universe). Source: Simon Swordy/University of Chicago, NASA

gamma rays effect our magnetic field as well as magnetic readings, such as those we see on HARP
this is why we see the large spike on the HARP Fluxgate Magnetometer
[link to 137.229.36.30]
and on the HARP Induction Magnetometer
[link to 137.229.36.30]
(i will do a screen shot of these in a few, and then add those here with these links to the real time data)

Because Earth’s atmosphere also reacts much like the ionization trail effect seen in the Wilson cloud chamber, scientists such as Svensmark have postulated that galactic cosmic rays can affect the earth by causing changes in weather and possibly long term climate. Moving at close to the speed of light, these nuclear fragments smash into air molecules hard enough to knock electrons loose. This well-documented process creates negatively and positively charged ions.

Like the cloud trails seen in the Wilson cloud chamber, cosmic ray ionization trails in our atmosphere can act as cloud seeds. Some studies suggest that ions play a central role in creating aerosols. Aerosols are minute but important atmospheric particles that can serve as the cores of growing cloud droplets. Aerosols can cause clouds to form in the upper atmosphere, after the particles collide with other atmospheric particles in the troposphere and conglomerate into larger particles.
[link to wattsupwiththat.com]

where are these cosmic rays coming from?
well that is up for you to interpret

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NiNzrez (OP)

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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
We found this while looking into the geomagnetic alert issued by NOAA stating we are expecting a a corotating
interaction region followed by a negative polarity coronal hole high speed stream.


here is the NOAA 3 day solar forecast
they do make note of the filament i mentioned that had lifted off in the north east region. They agree with me, that it is not earth directed

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 11/2100Z
to 12/2100Z: Solar activity was very low. Todays largest event was
a B6 at 11/2309Z which appeared to originate from Region 1263 (N17,
L=296, about a day beyond west limb at the time of the event). The
solar disk now consists of only two spotted regions, Region 1269
(S22E03) and Region 1270 (N23E41). Both groups are very small and
only possess spots without penumbra. A filament eruption in the
northeast quadrant and associated CME were observed, beginning at
about 0336Z. The CME appears to be travelling well out of the
ecliptic plane and is not likely to be geoeffective.


IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 11/2100Z to 12/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field was quiet during the past 24 hours. Solar wind
observations of the Phi angle from the ACE spacecraft appeared to
indicate a transition to a negative polarity sector. The greater
than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit was at high levels
throughout the period.


IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be predominantly quiet for day 1 (13 August). An
increase to unsettled levels with a chance for active periods is
expected for days 2 and 3 (14-15 August) as a co-rotating
interaction region followed by a negative polarity coronal hole high
speed stream are expected to become weakly geoeffective.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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NiNzrez (OP)

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What is a Corotating Interaction Region?

Corotating interaction regions (CIRs) are regions of compressed plasma formed at the leading edges of corotating high-speed solar wind streams originating in coronal holes (CHs) as they interact with the preceding slow solar wind.
[link to journals.cambridge.org]

Corotating interaction regions possibly play a role in determining solar modulation of galactic and anomalous cosmic rays during periods of low to moderate solar activity
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
[link to www.physics.usyd.edu.au]

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Nice post nin

Looks like i have some

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NiNzrez (OP)

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08/13/2011 04:24 PM

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Nice post nin

Looks like i have some

Reading to do
 Quoting: bcfd101


let me know if you find anything interesting :)

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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
no one else with any thoughts on this?
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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
I've been trying to find an answer, too. Did this just start yesterday, or first get noticed yesterday?
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What ever is causing the disruption of our sat's won't be talked about openly. They are hardened to withstand nukes on earth, and solar storms. Anything that can compromise this is a national security risk and will be Blacked out.

unless, one of our GLP'ers are satellite engineers...
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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
I've been trying to find an answer, too. Did this just start yesterday, or first get noticed yesterday?
 Quoting: old guard


the HARP readings? or..?
the HARP induction magnetometer has been lit up since around the same time we see this anomaly on the radar
[link to 137.229.36.30]
it usually lights up like that when we have a incoming CME that has reached earths atmosphere, but we have no CME with this
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What ever is causing the disruption of our sat's won't be talked about openly. They are hardened to withstand nukes on earth, and solar storms. Anything that can compromise this is a national security risk and will be Blacked out.

unless, one of our GLP'ers are satellite engineers...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498581


it is not the satellites that are disturbed
they worked properly and picked up the gamma ray waves as they entered earths atmosphere
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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
The satillite anomalies
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I think it was probably the result of particles streaking between the satellites and the earth, there is no specific reason to believe they would not be blocked by the earth's protective barriers if this were the case. hmm
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The satillite anomalies
 Quoting: old guard


around 18:00 UTC Aug 10th is when the 1st one is seen
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Is there no possibility that it had something to do with the meteor shower?
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I've got limited understanding of all of this, but I have been wondering today why this is going a bit mad while everything else seems quiet.

[link to www.solarham.com]

The blue trace, in particular.

Is it possible that it is all liked to the same thing?
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I think it was probably the result of particles streaking between the satellites and the earth, there is no specific reason to believe they would not be blocked by the earth's protective barriers if this were the case. hmm
 Quoting: Least Servant


our magnetosphere does not stop rays from the cosmos that are directed at earth
we have had many documented cases of cosmic ray events in the past. each of them different from each other
not to mention the monitoring devices as well as satellites that are in place to monitor gamma rays and the neutron events that are associated with them
HARP being one of those monitors
so we do indeed know this happens

List of Cosmic Ray Storms in 2011.
[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

"Majority of events listed here are the Forbush-effects, i.e.
CME and coronal hole effects on background cosmic rays or
manifestations of propagating solar wind disturbances in cosmic rays."
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What a fabulously informative post NIN. Very interesting read and a great education for a solar layman. Thank you very much. As I learn the ropes on GLP, I've come to appreciate your posts. Please keep up the great work!

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I was thinking the meteorite shower, or the thing some people call fluff/fluffy might be doing it.
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Is there no possibility that it had something to do with the meteor shower?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504490


there is always possibility's when we are discussing a space to earth event^^
but doubtful
the HARP readings show a signature of a ray event that made the spikes on the reading we see
and the signature we see on the anomaly video and picture matches what a gamma event entering earth shows up as
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We had two GRB's on the eighth.

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
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They look like occur over the oceans. Just an observation
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are these 'things' connecting magnetic north and south?
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Congrats on the pin!!!
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We had two GRB's on the eighth.

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450970


I'm not saying that's what it was I'm just putting it out there. The gamma rays them selves would come along with the flash but I also know the is a lag time between the busrt and the gravity waves that follow. But I forget what the lag time is.
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Wouldn't those gamma rays have shown up here?

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It looks to me that it is energy from space from three locations. It appears to alter the weather soon after the energy field dissipates. This could possibly be evidence of orbiting HAARP's.
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Re: Satellite Anomaly Answer Found...?
I've got limited understanding of all of this, but I have been wondering today why this is going a bit mad while everything else seems quiet.

[link to www.solarham.com]

The blue trace, in particular.

Is it possible that it is all liked to the same thing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345008


that is the Phi angel
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Phi is the angle of the interplanetary magnetic field that is being carried out by the solar wind

Magnetic Field Phi Explained
[link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]


Interplanetary magnetic field azimuthThe direction of the IMF perpendicular to the geomagnetic axis. This affects the details of solar wind-magnetosphere interactions; however, this is of tertiary importance compared to the IMF magnitude and polar angle. This quantity also depends on IMF components measured by ACE/MAG.
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Solar DOOM!

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We had two GRB's on the eighth.

[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450970


thank you for adding this!
i looked all through my saved links for this one and could not find it
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