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Under the radar - ANOTHER TOBACCO TAX INCREASE

 
BritEsq
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Here wego again. A bill is in the Senate with major increases in the taxes on tobacco products.

One part of it is raising the tax on pipe (actually cigarette) tobacco from $2.83 per pound to just short of $50 dollars.

Cigarettes are going up too. From $50.33 to $100.50

(1) PIPE TOBACCO (thick cut cigarette tobacco labeled as "pipe" tobacco to circumvent cigarette tax)- Section 5701(f) of the IRS Code of 1986 is amended by striking ‘$2.8311 cents’ and inserting ‘$49.55’.

[link to www.govtrack.us]

They are relentless. Smoke 'em if you got.....uh.... can afford them.

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how do you see the juicy details (ie the price increase)? the link is just a summary unfortunately
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08/14/2011 12:19 AM
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Excellent!
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08/14/2011 12:29 AM
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how do you see the juicy details (ie the price increase)? the link is just a summary unfortunately
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Sorry, here it is:

[link to www.govtrack.us]

Edit: Section 3 (c) (1)

Last Edited by BritEsq on 08/14/2011 12:31 AM
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Any clue when it'll be hush/rushed through and signed into another illegal law?
Who does your thinking?
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there are shops opening up where you go in and roll your own with machines.. you do the work and the tabacco has no chemicals in it

200 cigs cost $24.00
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08/14/2011 12:42 AM
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That is ridiculous....making your own is cheaper, but pretty soon no one will be able to afford that either.
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there are shops opening up where you go in and roll your own with machines.. you do the work and the tabacco has no chemicals in it

200 cigs cost $24.00
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504913


This includes the roll your own
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Not many smokers here tonight I guess

bump
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08/14/2011 01:01 AM
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Any clue when it'll be hush/rushed through and signed into another illegal law?
 Quoting: Giftedest



It says:

(j) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to articles removed (as defined in section 5702(j) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) after December 31, 2011.
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I love my benson & hedges

... I love to smoke but this shit is getting stupid. What is one suppose to do?
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08/14/2011 01:04 AM
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Um. This is supposed to start at the end of the year. I am sure some tobacco lobbyist will stop this.
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there are shops opening up where you go in and roll your own with machines.. you do the work and the tabacco has no chemicals in it

200 cigs cost $24.00
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504913




This is a great fucking idea!!!!

Lounge around, smoke with friends...
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Um. This is supposed to start at the end of the year. I am sure some tobacco lobbyist will stop this.
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But it's for the healthcare - I am sure we will hear that phrase again from the last time.

Where did that money really go? A lot of good it did.
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Grow your own.
[link to www.amazon.com]
Just check your local laws. Legal almost everywhere. Start early in spring around Feb. 1. in pots indoors. Mist daily. Put in garden when plants are tough enough to grow on their own.
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it wont be long before its cheaper to smoke weed
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Here wego again. A bill is in the Senate with major increases in the taxes on tobacco products.

One part of it is raising the tax on pipe (actually cigarette) tobacco from $2.83 per pound to just short of $50 dollars.

Cigarettes are going up too. From $50.33 to $100.50

(1) PIPE TOBACCO (thick cut cigarette tobacco labeled as "pipe" tobacco to circumvent cigarette tax)- Section 5701(f) of the IRS Code of 1986 is amended by striking ‘$2.8311 cents’ and inserting ‘$49.55’.

[link to www.govtrack.us]

They are relentless. Smoke 'em if you got.....uh.... can afford them.

crisco
 Quoting: BritEsq

AND EVERY OTHER EXCISE TAX ON THE BOOKS
WOW RONNIE RAYGUN RAISED TOBACCO TAXES TWICE
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Here wego again. A bill is in the Senate with major increases in the taxes on tobacco products.

One part of it is raising the tax on pipe (actually cigarette) tobacco from $2.83 per pound to just short of $50 dollars.

Cigarettes are going up too. From $50.33 to $100.50

(1) PIPE TOBACCO (thick cut cigarette tobacco labeled as "pipe" tobacco to circumvent cigarette tax)- Section 5701(f) of the IRS Code of 1986 is amended by striking ‘$2.8311 cents’ and inserting ‘$49.55’.

[link to www.govtrack.us]

They are relentless. Smoke 'em if you got.....uh.... can afford them.

crisco
 Quoting: BritEsq


Oh damn. This sucks. Stock up now.

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There must be some sort of exclusion for cigars. I buy a pack of filtered cigars for a buck sixty. They look just like cigs but have brown paper. This is in a state where the piece of shit ex Governor promised not to raise any taxes. He collected a buck per pack on cigs but called it a fee. Now he is running for president, the lying piece of crap.
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Any clue when it'll be hush/rushed through and signed into another illegal law?
 Quoting: Giftedest



It says:

(j) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to articles removed (as defined in section 5702(j) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) after December 31, 2011.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301413


Thanks...
The Good Stuff pipe tobacco is highly rated and best price, comes by the pound (lb) and stores very well (over a year in cool/dark)

Tobacco plants are super easy to grow, once they get past the teensy seed/baby stage. They have nice flowers and each plant that you let flower makes thousands of seeds!
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Um. This is supposed to start at the end of the year. I am sure some tobacco lobbyist will stop this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1490846


I don't know why they don't seem to stop anything else.
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They are using the money to pay for education for retards.

"To amend part B of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act to provide full Federal funding of such part."

Yea, they want me to pay for that shit.

They want to save lives? Really. Suicide rates will go up since that is the last affordable smokes out here. That will push a lot of people right over the edge.

The non-smoking Congress obviously has no fucking clue what its like to live out here in tobacco land. Everyone I know smokes like it's still 1959. They ALL smoke pipe tobacco and have a hard time paying for that even at times.

I know the game plan is to tax it until its gone out of society. They think they are making the world a better place. They are not. They are robbing us of a cherished freedom of choice and spitting on a fine American tradition.

Tobacco built America.Life without cigarettes will be bland indeed. Get out of that UN treaty you use as an excuse for ripping us off. And quit with the talk about saving lives... tobacco is about the least harmful vice out there.

You want to save lives? Cut the military budget and spend that money on retards. That I would agree with.
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08/14/2011 03:23 AM
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Yeh ban all the cigars, we don't need that shit.

Hate smoke everywhere in the streets..
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Social engineering through taxes (punishment)....unreal...they never stop...
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All 50 states need a tax on local federal officials 75% of their income wages/capital gains.I bet these assholes would stop the tax crap then. Each rep must have residence within the state they are from, thus they would have to pay the new voter tax on their income to keep them honest.
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any congress person/ senator that didn't agree with the state income tax of 75% on them aren't doing the job for the right reasons anyway.We need public servants not schemers for profit.
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08/14/2011 04:01 AM
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Now that i speak about taxing them out of their money by state law ... i bet the say i'm a terrorist lol
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Assholes.

That's all I can really say atm.
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This plan will only work if all 50 or almost all states was on board.
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08/14/2011 04:07 AM
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That is ridiculous....making your own is cheaper, but pretty soon no one will be able to afford that either.
 Quoting: amywood71605


it is an unfair tax on the poor. it is mainly poor people who roll there own.

grow it. and don't stop growing it.
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There must be some sort of exclusion for cigars. I buy a pack of filtered cigars for a buck sixty. They look just like cigs but have brown paper. This is in a state where the piece of shit ex Governor promised not to raise any taxes. He collected a buck per pack on cigs but called it a fee. Now he is running for president, the lying piece of crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1504799


they will will put a 25 dollar tax on your cigars bye and bye.





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