Under the radar - ANOTHER TOBACCO TAX INCREASE

In the mid-60's, when I was in high school, there were cigarette machines at all gas stations. Of course the cigs were MUCH more expensive from the machines, but there was no one checking ID's either.

By the way, a pack from the machine was 25 cents, and it came with a book of matches.

Went to the Cig store yesterday, a carton was $48.99. It's gone up about $10.00 just this year, in increments of course so that each time you go it's a little bit more expensive. Individual packs are $6.89 in the Safeway store (not that I EVER buy them there!!)

THANKS, OP, for catching this and letting us know. Maybe we should try to include a couple of cartons of cigs in our "preps" - could be as valuable as gold!!

, 5 stars, and a "suggest Pin".

it will soon be cheaper to smoke hydroponic marijuana vs a pack of Marlboros...

Thats fucked. I live in new york state and a carton here is 96.00 over 10 dollars a pack single packs. Thank god for my electric cigarette. Sure it wont be long before they start taxing the shit outta those too though.

I for one have begun to grow my own and if this keeps up will become rich selling tobacco.

Already is around here.... 10 dollars a gram for dro more than ten for a pack of cigarettes..LOL!!! If these increases go through cigarettes will probably cost more than kush.

you know, there is a loophole to get cigs though the mail still, its called the "certain age-verfied individuals" loophole.


"Shipments sent under the "certain age-verified individuals" exception must be infrequent (no more than 10 shipments in any 30-day period) and weigh 10 ounces or less; however, no special weight limits apply to shipments entirely within Alaska and Hawaii.
Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco are prohibited in both inbound and outbound"

Know someone in the south and you should be able to get cheap ass cigs. Based on the weight limit it appears you could get about 6 1/2 cartons a month.

[link to www.usps.com (secure)]

Holy shit!

Bubbles!!!!!!! Watching that show right now on netflix. Awesome !!!

I see you are already Pinned!! Good job, OP!!

What is your definition of 'freedom'?

If they want to raise money for retards, they should add a corn syrup tax. Would you support that too?

unfair tax
it is a punishment tax on smokers

if they want to have a tax to pay for this kid insurance, then it should fall on the shoulders of everyone

What does 'freedom' mean to you?

Article I, Section 7, clause 1 (Origination Clause) of the U.S. Constitution:

"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives."

Good! What better way to increase some revenue than by raising a tax on an item that literally KILLS you. I think this is long overdue.

"SO SHOULD BOOZE. BOOZE KILLS MORE PEOPLE AND BREAKS UP MORE HOMES AND PUTS MORE USERS IN JAIL THAN SMOKING TOBACCO EVER DID. ALSO, BOOZE IS WAY WORSE FOR YOUR HEALTH THAN TOBACCO.
I HATE PEOPLE WHO DRINK. THEY SMELL LIKE AN EMPTY BOTTLE OF CHEAP WINE AND THEY CAN'T TALK OR DRIVE RIGHT. DRINKING IS A DISGUSTING HABIT. I LOOK DOWN ON ANY DRINKER. DRINKERS ARE LOSERS."

We're sincerely sorry your daddy beat you when he was drunk. It would do wonders for your credibility if you tried to put together a proper paragraph before lumping everyone who enjoys alcohol into one category. Those that are taxing the people to excess will reap the whirlwind in way or another in the long run. Unethical behavior is not condoned nor dismissed. If there is any universal justice, what goes around will be coming right back around for them.

Watching TV harms your eyes. Shall we have a tax on television and video games?

Corn Syrup causes obesity -- shall we have a tax on all products containing corn syrup?

Salt causes blood pressure to rise -- shall we have a tax on all products containing salt?

You, sir, have no idea what Freedom entails. You think it's okay to tax everyone else, because that's works out to less contributions to society for you to pay.

If there is a social responsibility to pay for the education of disabled people, then it's a responsibility for everyone -- not just smokers.

All three of those things you listed, when used/taken in moderation, are neither harmful, nor do they kill you. Smoking cigarettes, even in moderation, causes lung cancer. Nice attempt at comparison, but it really doesn't work.

Wow, you really are ignorant.

People smoke cigs without ever getting lung cancer.

Furthermore, it has been shown that the polonium used in the crop fertilizers is actually what causes the lung cancer. So it's not really tobacco, it's what the tobacco is grown in.

Why do you feel the need to be my daddy?

I would love for you to link me to one peer-reviewed scientific study that proves the only reason cigarettes cause lung cancer is "polonium used in the crop fertilizers". You can't do it. Sorry, but no matter how long you plug your fingers in your ears saying "la-la-la I can't hear you", it doesn't change that inhaling cigarette smoke is extremely effective at causing lung cancer.

Polonium is drawn up into the plant from the fertilizers used. Polonium is the one substance in tobacco smoke which is known to cause cancer in, by, and of itself.

If you spent even 15 minutes on Google, you'd know this already -- rather than bickering with me about it. It's very easy to find out.

The fact is, as I pointed out earlier, you want this tax because it means less for you to pay. And I contend that I have the same responsibility to pay for educating disabled people as you do. So no amount of science is going to change the fact that you want smokers to pay for a project that you should be paying for as well.

"All three of those things you listed, when used/taken in moderation, are neither harmful, nor do they kill you. Smoking cigarettes, even in moderation, causes lung cancer. Nice attempt at comparison, but it really doesn't work."

No do know that smoking doesn't always cause lung cancer, even in heavy smokers, right? What about the fact that most people who get lung cancer are not even smokers? I think that should be considered.
I think he was trying to say that many things kill people,sometimes in greater numbers than cigarettes and are not taxed to this degree. Fast food, soda, meds, etc. Do a google search for statistics about cancer in people who have never been smokers.

"Polonium is drawn up into the plant from the fertilizers used. Polonium is the one substance in tobacco smoke which is known to cause cancer in, by, and of itself. "

Don't even bother with him, he's obviously biased to a degree that prevents him from being open minded about this issue.

He's obviously certain that smoke is the worst thing in the world for you and the only solution is to line unscrupulous spenders' pockets with more of our hard earned money.

So very, very false.

"In the United States, about 90% of lung cancer deaths in men and almost 80% of lung cancer deaths in women are due to smoking."

[link to www.cdc.gov]

Ok, so even if polonium is the problem - it's in cigarettes. They are still killing you. So all the better to tax them. Or get polonium banned from fertilizers. Option A is easier in my book.

We have signed a treaty! They can argue all they want in Congress and we can yell until hoarse but until we tell the UN to fuck off this bullshit will continue until the ultimate end goal.

They want to eliminate tobacco and make it a thing of the past.

I don't think this is a good thing. Smoking has a lot of benefits to me and worth the bother. It won't kill me or shorten my life. I never have health issues and 2 packs a day since 1980 keeps me away from alcohol and my weight to an ideal level. So yea, I feel personally threatened by tobacco control fanatics. Their smoke free lifestyle would turn me into a fat old drunk if imposed on me.

Maybe that's just me, but I count too. Don't kill me off.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

So you would rather run the risk of being diagnosed with terminal lung cancer, than be a "fat old drunk"?

IT IS ON OUR DIME DUMB ASS

We pay insurance just like everyone else. And a higher rate to boot.

I've been sick less than 1 time per year for the last 22 years.

No hospitalization in that time

1 Chest x-ray every 2 years

1 monthly prescription for insomnia

Now tell me again how all my high premiums and high taxes that I pay are costing your ass money?

Didn't think so, libtard motherfucker.

Go crawl in Al Gore's crotch and die.

I have bad news for you. You are going to die one day whether you smoke or not.