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YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary )

 
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Not Hinduism. The Vedas are not for "The Hindus". The vedas are for every man of every religion. Hindusim is an amalgamation of beliefs who worship various demi-gods. They do not believe in 1 supreme being.
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Even if there are various demi-gods the idea of a supreme deity exists in Hinduism.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Like I said, an amalgamation of various beliefs is what many people call "Hinduism".

Even Vaishnavas are lumped in with Hindus, but Vaishnavas do not worship only demi-gods. They worship a supreme deity, even though they acknowledge the demi gods are his supreme servants.

It's like this. The Demi-Gods are the various servants of the supreme deity. One does not have to satisfy the individual demi-gods if you can satisfy the supreme deity. The demi-gods are automatically satisfied when you satisfy their master. The same way that all the leaves of a tree are nourished when you water the root of the tree. You do not have to water each individual branch or leaf.
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Kind of like Zeus and the Gods of Olympus?
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Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt. Indra is not considered the supreme deity, but a very powerful demi-god none the less.

In the Vedas though, Indra is a post, a position, not a name. The person who is Indra can change, and has changed.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.

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"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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Even if there are various demi-gods the idea of a supreme deity exists in Hinduism.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Like I said, an amalgamation of various beliefs is what many people call "Hinduism".

Even Vaishnavas are lumped in with Hindus, but Vaishnavas do not worship only demi-gods. They worship a supreme deity, even though they acknowledge the demi gods are his supreme servants.

It's like this. The Demi-Gods are the various servants of the supreme deity. One does not have to satisfy the individual demi-gods if you can satisfy the supreme deity. The demi-gods are automatically satisfied when you satisfy their master. The same way that all the leaves of a tree are nourished when you water the root of the tree. You do not have to water each individual branch or leaf.
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Kind of like Zeus and the Gods of Olympus?
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Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, so what are the odds some of the Demi-Gods are lesser incarnations of the Supreme Being waiting until it can Incarnate in its fullness? It's odd the King of Heaven isn't considered the Supreme Being isn't it?
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Bhagavad-gita: The Timeless Sourcebook on Reincarnation

Many Westerners, in order to gain a deeper understanding about reincarnation (Transmigration of the Soul), are turning to the original sources of knowledge about past and future lives. Among all available literatures, the Sanskrit Vedas of India are the oldest on earth and present the most comprehensive and logical explanations of the science of transmigration, teachings that have maintained their viability and universal appeal for more than five thousand years.


The most fundamental information about transmigration appears in Bhagavad-gita, the essence of the Upanishads and of all Vedic knowledge. The Gita was spoken fifty centuries ago by Lord Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, to His friend and disciple Arjuna on a battlefield in northern India. A battlefield is the perfect place for a discussion about transmigration, for in combat, men directly confront the fateful questions of life. death, and the afterlife.


As Krishna begins to speak on the immortality of the soul, He tells Arjuna,

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."

The Gita further instructs,

"That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul."

The soul-here we speak of something so subtle that it is not immediately verifiable by the limited human mind and senses. Therefore, not everyone will be able to accept the existence of the soul. Krishna informs Arjuna,

"Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all."


Accepting the existence of the soul is, however, not merely a matter of faith. Bhagavad-gita appeals to the evidence of our senses and logic, so we may accept its teachings with some degree of rational conviction and not blindly, as dogma.


It is impossible to understand transmigration unless one knows the difference between the actual self (the soul) and the body. The Gita helps us see the nature of the soul by the following example.

"As the sun alone illuminates all this universe, so does the living entity, one within the body, illuminate the entire body by consciousness."


Consciousness is concrete evidence of the presence of the soul within the body. On a cloudy day, the sun may not be visible, but we know it is there in the sky by the presence of sunlight. Similarly, we may not be able to directly perceive the soul, but we may conclude it is there by the presence of consciousness. In the absence of consciousness, the body is simply a lump of dead matter. Only the presence of consciousness makes this lump of dead matter breathe, speak, love, and fear. In essence, the body is a vehicle for the soul, through which it may fulfill its myriad material desires. The Gita explains that the living entity within the body is "seated as on a machine made of the material energy." The soul falsely identifies with the body, carrying its different conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries aromas. Just as an automobile cannot function without the presence of a driver, similarly, the material body cannot function without the presence of the soul.


As one grows older, this distinction between the conscious self and the physical body becomes more obvious. Within his lifetime a person can observe that his body is constantly changing. It does not endure, and time proves the child ephemeral. The body comes into existence at a certain time, grows, matures, produces by-products (children), and gradually dwindles and dies. The physical body is thus unreal, for it will, in due time, disappear. As the Gita explains, "Of the nonexistent there is no endurance." But despite all the changes of the material body, consciousness, a symptom of the soul within, remains unchanged. ("Of the eternal there is no change.") Therefore, we may logically conclude that consciousness possesses an innate quality of permanence that enables it to survive the dissolution of the body. Krishna tells Arjuna,

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time.... He is not slain when the body is slain."


But if the soul is "not slain when the body is slain," then what becomes of it? The answer given in the Bhagavad-gita is that the soul enters another body. This is transmigration of the soul. This concept may be diffcult for some people to accept, but it is a natural phenomenon, and the Gita gives logical examples to aid our understanding:

"As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change."


In other words, man transmigrates even in the course of one lifetime. Any biologist will tell you that the body's cells are constantly dying and being replaced by new ones. In other words, each of us has a number of "different" bodies in this very life. The body of an adult is completely different from the body the same person had as an infant. Yet despite bodily changes, the person within remains the same. Something similar happens at the time of death. The self undergoes a final change of body. The Gita says,

"As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones."

Thus the soul remains entrapped in an endless cycle of births and deaths. "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again," the Lord tells Arjuna.


According to the Vedas, there are 8,400,000 species of life, beginning with the microbes, rising through the fish, plants, insects, reptiles, birds, and animals to the humans and demigods. According to their desires, the living entities perpetually take birth in these species.


The mind is the mechanism that directs these transmigrations, propelling the soul to newer and newer bodies. The Gita explains,

"Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, ...that state he will attain without fail [in his next life]."

Everything we have thought and done during our life makes an impression on the mind, and the sum total of all these impressions influences our final thoughts at death. According to the quality of these thoughts, material nature awards us a suitable body. Therefore, the type of body that we have now is the expression of our consciousness at the time of our last death.
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Awesome! I love Ayurveda/vedic teachings. Though I consider myself a celt, the teachings you presented greatly help to explain my own incarnations, the reasons why I've been trapped in human form since my first human incarnation, and how to escape this trap. Actually, the old Celts used to have very similar views on transmitigration, though in different words, but the meaning is very much the same. Talesin, though a much later figure of Celtic society, explains it well, in his story of life and death and passing from one body to another. Reading your post, however, has only renewed my desire to study Thai massage in Thailand, which is very much an ayurvedic healing art, and therefore encompasses the teachings of yoga, meditation, reincarnation/transmitigration. Unfortunately, I feel the time is not ripe for me to go abroad again, though I'd love to go asap! Thanks for your post! Just the sort of inspiration I need!
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Like I said, an amalgamation of various beliefs is what many people call "Hinduism".

Even Vaishnavas are lumped in with Hindus, but Vaishnavas do not worship only demi-gods. They worship a supreme deity, even though they acknowledge the demi gods are his supreme servants.

It's like this. The Demi-Gods are the various servants of the supreme deity. One does not have to satisfy the individual demi-gods if you can satisfy the supreme deity. The demi-gods are automatically satisfied when you satisfy their master. The same way that all the leaves of a tree are nourished when you water the root of the tree. You do not have to water each individual branch or leaf.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Kind of like Zeus and the Gods of Olympus?
 Quoting: HilosPP


Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, so what are the odds some of the Demi-Gods are lesser incarnations of the Supreme Being waiting until it can Incarnate in its fullness? It's odd the King of Heaven isn't considered the Supreme Being isn't it?
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Well the demi-gods are just like you and me, they are tiny spiritual sparks. They are not supreme all pervasive spiritual energy. You can even be elevated to become a demi-god if you so choose. The exception is Brahma, who is considered the creator of the Universe. Brahma can be an incarnation of the Supreme Being, or he can be like you and me. If one performs his religious duties for 100 lifetimes in a row, one can be elevated to the position of Brahma, the creator of the universe. So Brahma is sometimes an incarnation of the supreme being, and sometimes a small spirit soul like you and me. There is a Brahma for every universe, and there are unlimited universes that exist seperately from each other.

In the Vedas, the conception of Heaven is not the same as the conception of Heaven in Christianity and other abrahamic religions.

Heaven is a higher realm where the duration of life is very great, and you may meet many of your past relatives there if they have been elevated to heaven also. But Heaven is not the final destination. Heaven is still within the material world, albeit much more elevated and luxurious and tempting. At the end of this universe, the heavenly planets will be annihilated with the rest of the universe.

The Supreme Deity is the proprietor of everything, not just heaven. His abode is the Spiritual World which is outside of the material universes. The Spiritual World is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss. Once you obtain the Spiritual World, you never return to the material world which we currently inhabit.

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"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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Even if there are various demi-gods the idea of a supreme deity exists in Hinduism.
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Like I said, an amalgamation of various beliefs is what many people call "Hinduism".

Even Vaishnavas are lumped in with Hindus, but Vaishnavas do not worship only demi-gods. They worship a supreme deity, even though they acknowledge the demi gods are his supreme servants.

It's like this. The Demi-Gods are the various servants of the supreme deity. One does not have to satisfy the individual demi-gods if you can satisfy the supreme deity. The demi-gods are automatically satisfied when you satisfy their master. The same way that all the leaves of a tree are nourished when you water the root of the tree. You do not have to water each individual branch or leaf.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Kind of like Zeus and the Gods of Olympus?
 Quoting: HilosPP


Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt. Indra is not considered the supreme deity, but a very powerful demi-god none the less.

In the Vedas though, Indra is a post, a position, not a name. The person who is Indra can change, and has changed.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.
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I like your analogies here. This is very much how I percieve the "gods", or demi-gods, as would be more fitting. I am polytheistic, yet I woship none...only honour nature and show respect where it is deserved.
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i didn't read it but as long as u aren't saying reincarnation is religious all is good, cos everyone knows we weren't created by a being
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Kind of like Zeus and the Gods of Olympus?
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Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, so what are the odds some of the Demi-Gods are lesser incarnations of the Supreme Being waiting until it can Incarnate in its fullness? It's odd the King of Heaven isn't considered the Supreme Being isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


Well the demi-gods are just like you and me, they are tiny spiritual sparks. They are not supreme all pervasive spiritual energy. You can even be elevated to become a demi-god if you so choose.

In the Vedas, the conception of Heaven is not the same as the conception of Heaven in Christianity and other abrahamic religions.

Heaven is a higher realm where the duration of life is very great, and you may meet many of your past relatives there if they have been elevated to heaven also. But Heaven is not the final destination. Heaven is still within the material world, albeit much more elevated and luxurious and tempting. At the end of this universe, the heavenly planets will be annihilated with the rest of the universe.

The Supreme Deity is the proprietor of everything, not just heaven. His abode is the Spiritual World which is outside of the material universes. The Spiritual World is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss. Once you obtain the Spiritual World, you never return to the material world which we currently inhabit.
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Hmm, I disagree with the final part of your statement; I believe Heaven will come to pass as an Eternal Kingdom upon this Planet. I do agree that the Universe has been restarted but I don't believe it will be Brahma's intention to refold existence upon Manifesting in His current Incarnation.
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Sort of. Zeus is more similar to the demi-god titled Indra. Indra is the King of Heaven and the God of Thunder. His weapon is the lightning bolt.

Many people believe that the Greek God Zeus and the Vedic Demi-God Indra are the same, but described in different languages and traditions that have changed over many generations.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, so what are the odds some of the Demi-Gods are lesser incarnations of the Supreme Being waiting until it can Incarnate in its fullness? It's odd the King of Heaven isn't considered the Supreme Being isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


Well the demi-gods are just like you and me, they are tiny spiritual sparks. They are not supreme all pervasive spiritual energy. You can even be elevated to become a demi-god if you so choose.

In the Vedas, the conception of Heaven is not the same as the conception of Heaven in Christianity and other abrahamic religions.

Heaven is a higher realm where the duration of life is very great, and you may meet many of your past relatives there if they have been elevated to heaven also. But Heaven is not the final destination. Heaven is still within the material world, albeit much more elevated and luxurious and tempting. At the end of this universe, the heavenly planets will be annihilated with the rest of the universe.

The Supreme Deity is the proprietor of everything, not just heaven. His abode is the Spiritual World which is outside of the material universes. The Spiritual World is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss. Once you obtain the Spiritual World, you never return to the material world which we currently inhabit.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, I disagree with the final part of your statement; I believe Heaven will come to pass as an Eternal Kingdom upon this Planet. I do agree that the Universe has been restarted but I don't believe it will be Brahma's intention to refold existence upon Manifesting in His current Incarnation.
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It is not my statement. I do not whimsically express my opinion. This is the knowledge passed down from the supreme personality himself, to his disciples, and to their disciples, etc and so on in an unbroken chain of disciplic succession.

The goal of disciplic succession is to accept the word of God and pass it down unmodified. Because if you receive knowledge from the perfect being and the knowledge is perfect, it does not need to be changed.

The main tenet of devotional service is to maintain the efficacy of the original teachings. Thus they have been passed down to us in Sanskrit, and unmodified.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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Cor blimey all that typing and you say:

"The main purpose of life is to get free from birth and death."

...What a loada rubbish! lol

...Fill your head with all this new age nonsense if you feel you want to fool yourselves into believing you're more than Slaves!!!

...Deal with it, YOU ARE and ALWAYS will be SLAVES!!! Not lords or masters or rulers of any other universe blah blah nonsense blah

...Get over yourself mankind, your come from dirty stinky drops of water, PERIOD!

FFS @ man and his desire to be his own God... Dream on

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Hmm, so what are the odds some of the Demi-Gods are lesser incarnations of the Supreme Being waiting until it can Incarnate in its fullness? It's odd the King of Heaven isn't considered the Supreme Being isn't it?
 Quoting: HilosPP


Well the demi-gods are just like you and me, they are tiny spiritual sparks. They are not supreme all pervasive spiritual energy. You can even be elevated to become a demi-god if you so choose.

In the Vedas, the conception of Heaven is not the same as the conception of Heaven in Christianity and other abrahamic religions.

Heaven is a higher realm where the duration of life is very great, and you may meet many of your past relatives there if they have been elevated to heaven also. But Heaven is not the final destination. Heaven is still within the material world, albeit much more elevated and luxurious and tempting. At the end of this universe, the heavenly planets will be annihilated with the rest of the universe.

The Supreme Deity is the proprietor of everything, not just heaven. His abode is the Spiritual World which is outside of the material universes. The Spiritual World is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss. Once you obtain the Spiritual World, you never return to the material world which we currently inhabit.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, I disagree with the final part of your statement; I believe Heaven will come to pass as an Eternal Kingdom upon this Planet. I do agree that the Universe has been restarted but I don't believe it will be Brahma's intention to refold existence upon Manifesting in His current Incarnation.
 Quoting: HilosPP


It is not my statement. I do not whimsically express my opinion. This is the knowledge passed down from the supreme personality himself, to his disciples, and to their disciples, etc and so on in an unbroken chain of disciplic succession.

The goal of disciplic succession is to accept the word of God and pass it down unmodified. Because if you receive knowledge from the perfect being and the knowledge is perfect, it does not need to be changed.

The main tenet of devotional service is to maintain the efficacy of the original teachings. Thus they have been passed down to us in Sanskrit, and unmodified.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Perhaps this is why it is said when "The Christ" Incarnates again and begins teaching everybody will be forced to cut off their own heads? I heard its a metaphor for everybody having to relearn everything they think they know about God. It still resonates with my Self that Heaven will be an Eternal Kingdom born of This Earth.
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Cor blimey all that typing and you say:

"The main purpose of life is to get free from birth and death."

...What a loada rubbish! lol

...Fill your head with all this new age nonsense if you feel you want to fool yourselves into believing you're more than Slaves!!!

...Deal with it, YOU ARE and ALWAYS will be SLAVES!!! Not lords or masters or rulers of any other universe blah blah nonsense blah

...Get over yourself mankind, your come from dirty stinky drops of water, PERIOD!

FFS @ man and his desire to be his own God... Dream on
 Quoting: Nemesis-incognitO


How can this be new-age rubbish? This philosophy is the oldest philosophy that is still perfectly preserved to this day.

And where do you get the idea that transmigration of the soul means that you become your own god?

You obviously haven't read anything in this thread.

Let me sum it up for you.

The only way to free yourself from the cycle of birth and death is to engage in devotional service to the supreme You do not become God. You engage in service to God who is your father. Because God is your father, he shares his kingdom with you and you reap the benefits. But at no point do you ever become God. It is not possible.

God is like a great big fire, and we are like individual sparks emitting from that fire. We are of the same quality of God, but minute. God is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss, but is unlimited.

We are limited, God is unlimited. There is a quantitative difference that cannot be rectified. We can never become God.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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What about "The Christ" teachings that we will all be as Sons and Daughters of God as He was a Son of God?
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you lost me at 11 part video. anyways when ya die your dead, no heaven hell, or re-birth whatever you call it, you go the same place the dead cockroach goes, back to dust!

If I had lived past lives like some choose to believe, surely I would have memories of them as how would experiences I don't remember help me "grow" or what ever you inscense wavers choose to believe.

Your fancy words do not sway me from the COLD HARD FACTS! When ya die you are DEAD, dead dead...
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you lost me at 11 part video. anyways when ya die your dead, no heaven hell, or re-birth whatever you call it, you go the same place the dead cockroach goes, back to dust!

If I had lived past lives like some choose to believe, surely I would have memories of them as how would experiences I don't remember help me "grow" or what ever you inscense wavers choose to believe.

Your fancy words do not sway me from the COLD HARD FACTS! When ya die you are DEAD, dead dead...
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The dead are neither conscious or not conscious, seems a bit on the arrogant side to think the majority of manking which believes in afterlife just havent figured it out yet?
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you lost me at 11 part video. anyways when ya die your dead, no heaven hell, or re-birth whatever you call it, you go the same place the dead cockroach goes, back to dust!

If I had lived past lives like some choose to believe, surely I would have memories of them as how would experiences I don't remember help me "grow" or what ever you inscense wavers choose to believe.

Your fancy words do not sway me from the COLD HARD FACTS! When ya die you are DEAD, dead dead...
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The dead are neither conscious or not conscious, seems a bit on the arrogant side to think the majority of mankind which believes in afterlife just havent figured it out yet?
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Well the demi-gods are just like you and me, they are tiny spiritual sparks. They are not supreme all pervasive spiritual energy. You can even be elevated to become a demi-god if you so choose.

In the Vedas, the conception of Heaven is not the same as the conception of Heaven in Christianity and other abrahamic religions.

Heaven is a higher realm where the duration of life is very great, and you may meet many of your past relatives there if they have been elevated to heaven also. But Heaven is not the final destination. Heaven is still within the material world, albeit much more elevated and luxurious and tempting. At the end of this universe, the heavenly planets will be annihilated with the rest of the universe.

The Supreme Deity is the proprietor of everything, not just heaven. His abode is the Spiritual World which is outside of the material universes. The Spiritual World is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss. Once you obtain the Spiritual World, you never return to the material world which we currently inhabit.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Hmm, I disagree with the final part of your statement; I believe Heaven will come to pass as an Eternal Kingdom upon this Planet. I do agree that the Universe has been restarted but I don't believe it will be Brahma's intention to refold existence upon Manifesting in His current Incarnation.
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It is not my statement. I do not whimsically express my opinion. This is the knowledge passed down from the supreme personality himself, to his disciples, and to their disciples, etc and so on in an unbroken chain of disciplic succession.

The goal of disciplic succession is to accept the word of God and pass it down unmodified. Because if you receive knowledge from the perfect being and the knowledge is perfect, it does not need to be changed.

The main tenet of devotional service is to maintain the efficacy of the original teachings. Thus they have been passed down to us in Sanskrit, and unmodified.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


Perhaps this is why it is said when "The Christ" Incarnates again and begins teaching everybody will be forced to cut off their own heads? I heard its a metaphor for everybody having to relearn everything they think they know about God. It still resonates with my Self that Heaven will be an Eternal Kingdom born of This Earth.
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What good is resonating with yourself? Your senses are imperfect. You cannot even see without the help of light. We are conditioned souls, and we are prone to four defects.

1) We commit mistakes
2) We are illusioned, we accept something for real which is not real
3) We cheat, we say something and then believe something else in our heart
4) We possess imperfect senses. We cannot see what is happening on the other side of a wall.

I think the biggest clash you have is the wording, that you have a concept of Heaven and the wording of Heaven in the Vedas is different.

But your concept of heaven is more akin to the Spiritual World, where everything is eternal, full of knowledge, and full of bliss.

Yes it is possible that this world can be like the Spiritual World.

If the Bhagavad-gita is true, are not having to relearn everything about God already?
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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Haha, what an unenligtened statement; what good is your Self? We are all peices of Self of SELF.
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What about "The Christ" teachings that we will all be as Sons and Daughters of God as He was a Son of God?
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We are Sons of God. God is our father, and just like a material father, he is all merciful.

Is the idea of Transmigration of the Soul not more merciful than the idea of "You have 1 shot, and if you fail or were not born in the right country, you're eternally damned to hell"?

The idea that you have unlimited tries to get it right, to get back home back to Godhead with your eternal father, is that not more merciful?

When we decided to enjoy in the material world apart from God, he did not want us to come here, but allowed it anyway because of our free will. Just like a real father might not want his Son to leave home.

But once we come here he does not relegate us to eternal suffering. At every step along the way we are given the proper guidance to return back home, to the spiritual world.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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Cor blimey all that typing and you say:

"The main purpose of life is to get free from birth and death."

...What a loada rubbish! lol

...Fill your head with all this new age nonsense if you feel you want to fool yourselves into believing you're more than Slaves!!!

...Deal with it, YOU ARE and ALWAYS will be SLAVES!!! Not lords or masters or rulers of any other universe blah blah nonsense blah

...Get over yourself mankind, your come from dirty stinky drops of water, PERIOD!

FFS @ man and his desire to be his own God... Dream on
 Quoting: Nemesis-incognitO


How can this be new-age rubbish? This philosophy is the oldest philosophy that is still perfectly preserved to this day.

And where do you get the idea that transmigration of the soul means that you become your own god?

You obviously haven't read anything in this thread.

Let me sum it up for you.

The only way to free yourself from the cycle of birth and death is to engage in devotional service to the supreme You do not become God. You engage in service to God who is your father. Because God is your father, he shares his kingdom with you and you reap the benefits. But at no point do you ever become God. It is not possible.

God is like a great big fire, and we are like individual sparks emitting from that fire. We are of the same quality of God, but minute. God is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss, but is unlimited.

We are limited, God is unlimited. There is a quantitative difference that cannot be rectified. We can never become God.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities




Okay OP, thanks for the clarity, I did jump to conclusion there... although I see you do mention reincarnation, and I think that's just wishful thinking personally xXx
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Haha, what an unenligtened statement; what good is your Self? We are all peices of Self of SELF.
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Yes like I explained, we are small finite fragments of self. But within our hearts there exists an infinite fragment of God, the super self. He is there guiding us. You can listen to the super self, which is not the same as listening to your self.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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oh my god u actually believe there is a god? LOL. let me guess u believe santa too and the tooth fairy
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What about "The Christ" teachings that we will all be as Sons and Daughters of God as He was a Son of God?
 Quoting: HilosPP


We are Sons of God. God is our father, and just like a material father, he is all merciful.

Is the idea of Transmigration of the Soul not more merciful than the idea of "You have 1 shot, and if you fail or were not born in the right country, you're eternally damned to hell"?

The idea that you have unlimited tries to get it right, to get back home back to Godhead with your eternal father, is that not more merciful?

When we decided to enjoy in the material world apart from God, he did not want us to come here, but allowed it anyway because of our free will. Just like a real father might not want his Son to leave home.

But once we come here he does not relegate us to eternal suffering. At every step along the way we are given the proper guidance to return back home, to the spiritual world.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


I'm under the impression God longed to be part of Mankind's world and live eternally as one of them.
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Cor blimey all that typing and you say:

"The main purpose of life is to get free from birth and death."

...What a loada rubbish! lol

...Fill your head with all this new age nonsense if you feel you want to fool yourselves into believing you're more than Slaves!!!

...Deal with it, YOU ARE and ALWAYS will be SLAVES!!! Not lords or masters or rulers of any other universe blah blah nonsense blah

...Get over yourself mankind, your come from dirty stinky drops of water, PERIOD!

FFS @ man and his desire to be his own God... Dream on
 Quoting: Nemesis-incognitO


How can this be new-age rubbish? This philosophy is the oldest philosophy that is still perfectly preserved to this day.

And where do you get the idea that transmigration of the soul means that you become your own god?

You obviously haven't read anything in this thread.

Let me sum it up for you.

The only way to free yourself from the cycle of birth and death is to engage in devotional service to the supreme You do not become God. You engage in service to God who is your father. Because God is your father, he shares his kingdom with you and you reap the benefits. But at no point do you ever become God. It is not possible.

God is like a great big fire, and we are like individual sparks emitting from that fire. We are of the same quality of God, but minute. God is Eternal, Full of Knowledge, and Full of Bliss, but is unlimited.

We are limited, God is unlimited. There is a quantitative difference that cannot be rectified. We can never become God.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities




Okay OP, thanks for the clarity, I did jump to conclusion there... although I see you do mention reincarnation, and I think that's just wishful thinking personally xXx
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I do not whimsically add my opinion. This knowledge is not from an imperfect teacher. This knowledge comes from the mouth of the supreme being himself.

He comes down to this world to reclaim all the fallen souls and establish religiosity. It is said that Fools Deride Him when he descends in human form.

What good would it be if I added my own opinion? I am just like everyone else. I am prone to the 4 defects of a conditioned soul. It would be better if I took perfect knowledge from the perfect being and accepted it. I cannot whimsically make up my own way to do mathematics, or architecture. I must go to someone who knows the science. The same goes for the science of God. I cannot manufacture my own science of God. I must go to someone who knows that perfect science.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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oh my god u actually believe there is a god? LOL. let me guess u believe santa too and the tooth fairy
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No I do not just believe there is a God. I have studied the science of understanding God that is given in the Bhagavad-gita. I do not just believe in things without studying them first. That is why I was practically an atheist for 21 years of my life.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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oh my god u actually believe there is a god? LOL. let me guess u believe santa too and the tooth fairy
 Quoting: Ralph Wiggum


...It amazes me that you consider there ISN'T yet start the sentence with the word 'god'!

...Ironic you mentioned the tooth fairy, so do you think you just appeared by chance into existence, just like everything else working perfectly? ...that sounds far more a bizarre notion! lol

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What about "The Christ" teachings that we will all be as Sons and Daughters of God as He was a Son of God?
 Quoting: HilosPP


We are Sons of God. God is our father, and just like a material father, he is all merciful.

Is the idea of Transmigration of the Soul not more merciful than the idea of "You have 1 shot, and if you fail or were not born in the right country, you're eternally damned to hell"?

The idea that you have unlimited tries to get it right, to get back home back to Godhead with your eternal father, is that not more merciful?

When we decided to enjoy in the material world apart from God, he did not want us to come here, but allowed it anyway because of our free will. Just like a real father might not want his Son to leave home.

But once we come here he does not relegate us to eternal suffering. At every step along the way we are given the proper guidance to return back home, to the spiritual world.
 Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities


I'm under the impression God longed to be part of Mankind's world and live eternally as one of them.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Why would God want to be part of Mankinds world? We are made in his image. The original form of God is that with 2 arms and 2 legs, a human form. He lives in a world Full of Knowledge, Full of Bliss, that is Eternal.

He created this material world to reform the finite souls who desired to enjoy without God. Not every Soul made the decision to enjoy without God. We are finite, so we possess everything God has in finite amounts. We have finite amounts of eternity, which is still eternal. We have finite amounts of knowledge and bliss. With our finite amount of knowledge, we had a chance to make correct decision and enjoy with God in his Spiritual World, or here separately in the material world.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

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Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION

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oh my god u actually believe there is a god? LOL. let me guess u believe santa too and the tooth fairy
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No I do not just believe there is a God. I have studied the science of understanding God that is given in the Bhagavad-gita. I do not just believe in things without studying them first. That is why I was practically an atheist for 21 years of my life.
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so you truly believe we were created and put here on earth? ha ur funnier than most comedians
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Re: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary )
oh my god u actually believe there is a god? LOL. let me guess u believe santa too and the tooth fairy
 Quoting: Ralph Wiggum


No I do not just believe there is a God. I have studied the science of understanding God that is given in the Bhagavad-gita. I do not just believe in things without studying them first. That is why I was practically an atheist for 21 years of my life.
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so you truly believe we were created and put here on earth? ha ur funnier than most comedians
 Quoting: Ralph Wiggum


So you truly believe that this entire universe, and all of its laws of nature, just spontaneously came into existence out of nothing?

That sounds more hilarious to me.
"A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane.

(Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja )


"If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too"

(Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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