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HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA CORNELL is not a trusted source!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503878


When i said expert i was expecting some people right here from GLP.. I don't know why Cornell U. its not trusted, or the University in Italy where the Dr. Lorio work.

Dunoo all the "Why's"
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


i was making a joke about the guy asking for an expert.

great find op, im sure there will be lots of shills working overtime on your post to debunk the findings, stay strong.
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told ya! just keep to the document from Cornell
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hahahahahaha is hard to keep the thread in a balance, everyone wants to have the last word in a free forum wich title is "UFO's-Conspiracy Theorists-Lunatic Fringe"..
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Homepage of Ph.D. Lorenzo Iorio from Cornell University

(The doctor has some serious investigation under his belt)

[link to digilander.libero.it]

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 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Do you find it remotely odd that he has an Italian website with no mention of Cornell on it? Or that there's on mention of him on Cornell's website in the Faculty section?
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Homepage of Ph.D. Lorenzo Iorio from Cornell University

(The doctor has some serious investigation under his belt)

[link to digilander.libero.it]

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 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Do you find it remotely odd that he has an Italian website with no mention of Cornell on it? Or that there's on mention of him on Cornell's website in the Faculty section?
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Well yes, no mention on this site about Cornell U... But a fair question is that the Dr. work for a very good source also. Its called M.I.U.R. from the Italian name.

The article if i'm not wrong was sended to Cornell U. where it was published.. (After review i think)
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I will quote from the actual scientific article

" In our opinion the anomalistic increase lies somewhere in the interval zero to 20 cm yr−1 , with a low probability that the reported increase is a statistical false alarm.”

So their you have it folks we are talking 20 cm a year (or about 0 inches to 8 inches for our American friends). On the other hand it may just be an error.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507723


But some guy saw the moon rise in the north east! Haven't you heard all the people saying the moon is in the wrong place? That many people couldn't be wrong, they just couldn't be! There's no way the moon's where it should be give or take a measly 20 cm, no one could see that if that were the case!!!!

/sarc
 Quoting: Astromut


Hey mate!!
As the official astronomer of GLP, without getting in too much scientific data, really what you think about all this rumors/reports floating around web pages, youtube, a bunch of people..?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer..

Peace..
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


I think it shows the lack of astronomical knowledge in the general public. We don't do even a halfway decent job teaching astronomy during primary and secondary school years.
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Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

More info and research on the video description.




Please lets analize and comments appreciated.
PDF Link & much info
[link to arxiv.org]



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wtf
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Check this out;

Thread: Is Magnetic North Pole Spiraling Down to a Single Dead Center Point? Link to Chart Provided.

I posted a thread of something similar to this, but on my thread I speak of Earth's Magnetic North spiraling to dead center true magnetic north and what the implications might be.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hey your thread is a very good find.. If you fill the dots, the earth moved his axis a few inches by the Earthquake of Chile and the Quake of Japan.. If you add this spiraling to the equation, of course this have something to do with the moon..

eq
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


I just wonder the the effects will be if our magnetic north goes true north, the earth would still be tilted but magnetic north would be dead center true north. What effects would this have on our planet?
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Homepage of Ph.D. Lorenzo Iorio from Cornell University

(The doctor has some serious investigation under his belt)

[link to digilander.libero.it]

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Do you find it remotely odd that he has an Italian website with no mention of Cornell on it? Or that there's on mention of him on Cornell's website in the Faculty section?
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Well yes, no mention on this site about Cornell U... But a fair question is that the Dr. work for a very good source also. Its called M.I.U.R. from the Italian name.

The article if i'm not wrong was sended to Cornell U. where it was published.. (After review i think)
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


It's not a peer reviewed article. ArXiv hosts articles prior to their being submitted to peer reviewed journals. Pretty much as long as you aren't posting something offensive or plagiarizing someone else you're free to publish your work there, even if it's completely wrong. I'm not saying this particular article is, it even rules out a planetary perturber as the cause, but the researchers who actually found the deviation in the laser ranging data proposed a reason of their own which I didn't see adequately discussed here (at least imho).
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Homepage of Ph.D. Lorenzo Iorio from Cornell University

(The doctor has some serious investigation under his belt)

[link to digilander.libero.it]

bump
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Do you find it remotely odd that he has an Italian website with no mention of Cornell on it? Or that there's on mention of him on Cornell's website in the Faculty section?
 Quoting: Blythe


Well yes, no mention on this site about Cornell U... But a fair question is that the Dr. work for a very good source also. Its called M.I.U.R. from the Italian name.

The article if i'm not wrong was sended to Cornell U. where it was published.. (After review i think)
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


It's not a peer reviewed article. ArXiv hosts articles prior to their being submitted to peer reviewed journals. Pretty much as long as you aren't posting something offensive or plagiarizing someone else you're free to publish your work there, even if it's completely wrong. I'm not saying this particular article is, it even rules out a planetary perturber as the cause, but the researchers who actually found the deviation in the laser ranging data proposed a reason of their own which I didn't see adequately discussed here (at least imho).
 Quoting: Astromut


All right Astromut thank you very much for clearing that up!! You put that in a simple way so anybody can understand it, even for the people that English is not the first language.

Now i understand where your first comment come from.. The people that conduct the Laser telemetry is the main reason why you dont find this articule with enough weight to discuss. (I think i got it this time quite well)

For the purpose of the video i'm clear that is not enough research to imply a "mayor" change at least visible for the naked eye.


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Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

More info and research on the video description.




Please lets analize and comments appreciated.
PDF Link & much info
[link to arxiv.org]



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wtf
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Check this out;

Thread: Is Magnetic North Pole Spiraling Down to a Single Dead Center Point? Link to Chart Provided.

I posted a thread of something similar to this, but on my thread I speak of Earth's Magnetic North spiraling to dead center true magnetic north and what the implications might be.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hey your thread is a very good find.. If you fill the dots, the earth moved his axis a few inches by the Earthquake of Chile and the Quake of Japan.. If you add this spiraling to the equation, of course this have something to do with the moon..

eq
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


I just wonder the the effects will be if our magnetic north goes true north, the earth would still be tilted but magnetic north would be dead center true north. What effects would this have on our planet?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I'm not a scientist but i can guess that we will experience serious changes in the earth crust, mayor eartquakes, tsunamies, and long story short, all the effects that a polar shift scale imply.. (A nasty scenario for all of us)

Remember that i'm guessing the results of your scenario..
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I will quote from the actual scientific article

" In our opinion the anomalistic increase lies somewhere in the interval zero to 20 cm yr−1 , with a low probability that the reported increase is a statistical false alarm.”

So their you have it folks we are talking 20 cm a year (or about 0 inches to 8 inches for our American friends). On the other hand it may just be an error.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507723


But some guy saw the moon rise in the north east! Haven't you heard all the people saying the moon is in the wrong place? That many people couldn't be wrong, they just couldn't be! There's no way the moon's where it should be give or take a measly 20 cm, no one could see that if that were the case!!!!

/sarc
 Quoting: Astromut


Hey mate!!
As the official astronomer of GLP, without getting in too much scientific data, really what you think about all this rumors/reports floating around web pages, youtube, a bunch of people..?

Thanks in advance for your honest answer..

Peace..
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


I think it shows the lack of astronomical knowledge in the general public. We don't do even a halfway decent job teaching astronomy during primary and secondary school years.
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lmao So predictable Astrotard...
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Could the small degree of change in the earth's axis account for the imperceptible change in the moon's ellipse?
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Could the small degree of change in the earth's axis account for the imperceptible change in the moon's ellipse?
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Yes, as the moon is the "natural satellite of the earth" any change would have consecuences in the moon. But as we are talking about small changes, i think that the proportion is equal.. SMALL but still a change
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It's hilarious to read BS flags and youtube videos as debunking evidence!

I always thought gravitational physics was all about math.

Has anyone actually done the math???

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While I totally agree on that aspect, there is a part of all this that initially starts with good old fashioned OBSERVATION. Not what does the math say, but what do the measurements plugged into that math say. The variables to the functions are of course totally observationally event driven.
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When all is said and done, the problem remains: things have changed up there and there's no scientifically unifying explanation as to how.
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The moon is just rising in my backyard. It still isn't high enough over the trees to see it clearly. I'll go back out in a few minutes. Has anyone else checked it out tonight?
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The moon is just rising in my backyard. It still isn't high enough over the trees to see it clearly. I'll go back out in a few minutes. Has anyone else checked it out tonight?
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no where in sight.. it's gone..
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When all is said and done, the problem remains: things have changed up there and there's no scientifically unifying explanation as to how.
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I hope that all of us can get as adults an unifying explanation.. That is the main reason i created this thread. Not to divide, not to insult, not to spread lies, not to discredit, just to get an unifying explanation.

Maybe we can find only a partial explanation, but that will do for me, as i am not presenting concrete scientific evidence of "problem" so i can't expect an absolut truth about it.

Thanks for commenting and again all comments are welcome and treated with my due respect.
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The moon is just rising in my backyard. It still isn't high enough over the trees to see it clearly. I'll go back out in a few minutes. Has anyone else checked it out tonight?
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no where in sight.. it's gone..
;)
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No joke but here is no visible because of too much clouds.
Maybe later around 2 to 3 am the sky is more clear..

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This thread deserve a BS flag

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Moon control the tides. If its orbit were wrong all the world would be destroyed ( or part of it). BS forever.
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Check this out;

Thread: Is Magnetic North Pole Spiraling Down to a Single Dead Center Point? Link to Chart Provided.

I posted a thread of something similar to this, but on my thread I speak of Earth's Magnetic North spiraling to dead center true magnetic north and what the implications might be.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Hey your thread is a very good find.. If you fill the dots, the earth moved his axis a few inches by the Earthquake of Chile and the Quake of Japan.. If you add this spiraling to the equation, of course this have something to do with the moon..

eq
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


I just wonder the the effects will be if our magnetic north goes true north, the earth would still be tilted but magnetic north would be dead center true north. What effects would this have on our planet?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


I'm not a scientist but i can guess that we will experience serious changes in the earth crust, mayor eartquakes, tsunamies, and long story short, all the effects that a polar shift scale imply.. (A nasty scenario for all of us)

Remember that i'm guessing the results of your scenario..
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Could this possibly be what made the Dinosaurs extinct? I don't think the changes on our already fragile planet will be without dire consequences. I mean look at the kind of anomalies we see today with just the minutest of events. Imagine that.
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Pole shift as far i know has happen in the past and several times.. (in a long period of time) with great changes in the earth as we know it..

But i agree with the theory that the dinosaurs was extinct by the impact of a big astronomical object. (meteorite)
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Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

More info and research on the video description.




Please lets analize and comments appreciated.
PDF Link & much info
[link to arxiv.org]



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wtf
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Unsure what we're supposed to be seeing here. Looks like what my mac desktop does to pictures when it's in screensaver mode.

A little narration, maybe, or subtitles would help?
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Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

More info and research on the video description.




Please lets analize and comments appreciated.
PDF Link & much info
[link to arxiv.org]



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wtf
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Read up here:

[link to arxiv.org]
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Jees!, the video of your post is from feb. 24th. Can't you get something more current?
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Just last night I noticed the moon looked really far away or got way smaller.
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The moon is just rising in my backyard. It still isn't high enough over the trees to see it clearly. I'll go back out in a few minutes. Has anyone else checked it out tonight?
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no where in sight.. it's gone..
;)
 Quoting: ceawaves


No joke but here is no visible because of too much clouds.
Maybe later around 2 to 3 am the sky is more clear..

peace
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Just went out there and checked.. the moon it up..
repeat: the moon is up.. still looking lop sided and over to left though...:)
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Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth

More info and research on the video description.




Please lets analize and comments appreciated.
PDF Link & much info
[link to arxiv.org]



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wtf
 Quoting: 2Crazy4U


Read up here:

[link to arxiv.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1416277


I finally watched the video. The earth's axis would have been effected by the Chilean EQ but not the one in Japan at the time the article was release. Wonder what the statistics look like now?

The moon is up here now from the same general direction as always (I have never checked it with a compass) and the phase looks correct. It is facing the sun which is behind it now with the side on my right in partial shadow, correct? The face in the moon looks like a profile taken from the left looking to the right. The sky is very bright (yes, the moon has seemed brighter) with an orange glow from the city lights in the distance caught in a lazy southern haze. Night sounds; crickets, frogs, cicadas, and owls, have replaced the busy noises of the day. Rome still stands and all is well. We have been given another day free of doom! Blessings to all!
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Would it be possible to tow the Moon down to Earth?

If we had the Moon down here on Earth it would be much easier to examine & explore.

When we have found out all we need to know we could possibly tow the Moon back to its original location, or just keep it here on Earth as a tourist attraction.
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Would it be possible to tow the Moon down to Earth?

If we had the Moon down here on Earth it would be much easier to examine & explore.

When we have found out all we need to know we could possibly tow the Moon back to its original location, or just keep it here on Earth as a tourist attraction.
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Would be a novel tourist attraction! I think we should keep it down here!

Another Crazy Moon thread:

Thread: Look At Moon Right NOW!!!
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Would it be possible to tow the Moon down to Earth?

If we had the Moon down here on Earth it would be much easier to examine & explore.

When we have found out all we need to know we could possibly tow the Moon back to its original location, or just keep it here on Earth as a tourist attraction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506935


Would be a novel tourist attraction! I think we should keep it down here!

Another Crazy Moon thread:

Thread: Look At Moon Right NOW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301383


Yes Indeed! People could even live in it, or it could be hollowed out a bit and turned into a Moon Jail!
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