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The Illuminati Exposed - Their Plans & How We Can Defeat Them!

 
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Aside from a few notorious dictators and a dead Islamic terrorist, no man more despicable than LBJ has ingratiated the earth. He is a traitor, murder, hypocrite, liar, fraud, and coward. He is currently roasting in hell, as he will be for eternity. George Bush Senior is sure to shortly follow & hopefully soon after, his son, Bush Jr. It would be so wonderful to see the two of them put on trial for their crimes against humanity but the way the world is today, that is not likely to happen.

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"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." - Myron Fagan

All of these threads, thousands of them every day, bashing religions, cultures and political beliefs is falling right into the hands of the Illuminati. They have done this for thousands of years and apparently there are many who are still not aware of this. I would suggest focusing on THEIR agenda instead of the rest of mankind. You come here seeking truth. Looking for who is behind the curtain but every time you uncover a new plot you find a reason to be angry with a race, creed or religion.

You blame the majority of society for their problems which are caused by a small group, 1% maybe of humanity that sew these seeds of hatred within you. This is how you are perpetually distracted, blinded by fear, anger, hatred and distrust of your fellow brothers and sisters. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE UNTIL HUMANITY CAN WAKE UP TO THIS!

I remain hopeful however because every day I see more and more waking up to the REAL truth and the elite are very afraid of us because they are no longer hidden. This is why recently the intensity of world events have dramatically escalated.

I only hope you can look past your differences and instead see your similarities. I know there is love behind the mask of anger at what has been done to you. We are overcoming the darkness and I believe it will be conquered once and for all.

The Illuminati Exposed - Myron Fagan - 1967 - part 1/9



Cultures are supposed to be unique. The problem is that the elite have worked behind the scenes for thousands of years to turn us against each other in their sick twisted games to control and dominate humanity. They literally get off on fear and death. It's like a drug for them.

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Grow up !!!!!!!!!

You are only responsible for yourselves

if you want to stuff your pie hole with twinkies and jack off to pornography, or leave your husband or beat your wife, abuse your kids, Idolize Hollywood, be a greedy materialist and watch dumb entertainment, its your own damn fault

Weak whiners always looking for someone else to blame

Blaming the big bad illuminati is getting old

Grow up and get over it.
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I am not blaming ANYONE for my own issues in life. I am not here complaining about my own problems. I have started this thread to identify a conspiracy within the world that has infected every nation, culture and religion with its sickness that it is on the verge of destroying humanity just as the snake consumes it's own tail.

I look out on the world and see it tearing itself apart at an ever increasing pace. I have spent 20 years researching who is behind this disgusting game. I see the captains of industry and finance and religion creating and stimulating the problems so that they can offer their predetermined solutions in order to gain more power and control over mankind to further their own narcissistic goals.

How can you possibly tell me that this is not the case? I did not say anything about pie holes or Twinkies or pornography or domestic abuse and neglect. I have never idolized Hollywood as I have ALWAYS seen them for the puppets that they are in this dark game. I have never been greedy or materialistic, I was simply not raised that way.

While I occasionally watch dumb entertainment I do so in order to see the motivations and manipulations behind it. How can you blame the actions of others upon me? I take responsibility for my own actions. I will not assume the responsibility for the actions of the worlds self appointed masters. It is a tried and true tactic of an abuser to shift the blame of the abuse upon the victim. It is funny however that you try to deflect away from the issues I have brought up with these lame arguments, it is a common tactic.

I am not here to whine or blame. I am here to point out the actors in a dark game which has gone on for thousands of years so that we may come together as a group and identify them, their ways of manipulating humanity and come up with some solutions. You cannot deny the writings and sayings of men like Adam Weishaupt, Albert Pike, Charles Mackie, and Manly P. Hall.

I do not blame the occult magic that is used. I was educated in the ways of the occult, Kabala, Tarot and Astrology from a young age. I look upon the ways in which it has instead been used and ABUSED in order to gain power over the world and turn most of humanity into dominated & obedient sheep dependent on controlled media for their ways of thinking.

You think that you know me but you do not. You assume that I blame someone such as yourself for the problems of this world but I do not. There is nothing inherently wrong with the secrets of how the Illuminati operate and maintain themselves. What is wrong is how that power has been systematically abused over the centuries to enslave the majority of mankind into fighting their petty battles in some sick kind of gladiator contest for their amusement.

I did not start this thread to promote fear but rather to try and examine some of the reasons why mankind lives in fear and submits to a rich and powerful global oligarchy. I am not pointing my finger at you but rather at the families on this planet who have subverted our society for their own pleasure. I call out the likes of the Pindar Rothschild, Bruce, Cavendish (Kennedy), De Medici, Hanover, Hapsburg, Krupp, Plantagenet, Rockefeller, Romanov, Sinclair, Warburg & Windsor families.

Each of the 13 ruling families is given an area of the Earth and/or a particular function to fulfill on the Earth. These particular functions include global finances, military technology/development, mind-control, religion, and media.

Each of the 13 ruling families has a Council of 13 as well. The number, 13, has great significance to them. They know that there are 12 types of energies that pass through the 10 aspects of God-Mind. The totality of the 12 energies equals a 13th energy. This is considered the most powerful knowledge.

They also know that there are really 13 Zodiac signs, not the commonly acknowledged 12. They have kept the 13th hidden for centuries because it is the sign of the Dragon. They keep the qualities and traits of this sign secret to avoid giving away clues to the Reptilian mind-pattern.

The next layer is the second-in-command families who do the support work for the Pindar and 13 ruling families. While all of the 13 ruling family members are shape-shifters, all members of the 300 supporting families are not. They do, however, all have a high percentage of Reptilian DNA.
They are known as the "Committee of 300".These families include such notable names as Agnelli, Balliol, Beale, Bell, Bouvier, Bush, Cameron, Campbell, Carnegie, Carrington, Coolidge, Delano, Douglas, Ford, Gardner, Graham, Hamilton, Harriman, Heinz, Kuhn, Lindsay, Loeb, Mellon, Montgomery, Morgan, Norman, Oppenheimer, Rhodes, Roosevelt, Russell, Savoy, Schiff, Seton, Spencer, Stewart/Stuart, Taft, and Wilson. There are many others.

The Committee of 300 use many well-known institutions to accomplish their goals, including the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgers, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Royal Institute for International Affairs, Mafia, CIA, NSA, Mossad, Secret Service, International Monetary Fund, Federal Reserve, Internal Revenue Service, and Interpol, to name a few. All of these are private organizations or corporations set up as public service devices, but this is far from the truth.

The Illuminati structure also creates artificial countries to further their goals. Examples of these are the United States, Switzerland, Kuwait, the Soviet Union, Panama, Israel, Italy, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, most of Black Africa, all of the Arab countries, and all of Central and South America. These nations were created to amass wealth for the ruling families and their supporters, to hide or keep their wealth, and to create unstable conditions necessary to start wars or increase military budgets.

Switzerland was created as a neutral banking centre so that Illuminati families would have a safe place to keep their funds without fear of destruction from wars and prying eyes.

The United States was established with 13 colonies, one for each of the Illuminati families. The original flag had 13 stars, and still has 13 stripes. The eagle, the symbol of the United States, holds 13 arrows in its talons. The United States is actually a corporate asset of the Virginia Company that was established in 1604 in England with direct involvement of the Rothschilds. The finances of the Rothschilds were necessary to fund the exploration and exploitation of the North American continent.

The assets of the Virginia Company, including the United States, are owned by the Holy Roman Empire via the Vatican. This occurred in 1213 when King James gave all English assets to the Reptilian Pope. Executorship remains with the British royal family, but actual ownership lies with the Roman Catholic Church.

The United States of America is not named after Amerigo Vespucci, as you learned in school. The Illuminati would never name a continent, actually two continents, after an Italian mapmaker. The name is actually a combination of words.

"Am" is the Hebrew word for "people"
"Ame" is also the command form of the Spanish/Latin verb "to love"
"Eri" or "ari" is a Hebrew term for "lion"
"Rica" is the feminine form of the Spanish word for "rich"
"Ka" is the ancient Egyptian word for soul, or spirit force within a body

There are two layers of meanings. The Ancient Hebrew/Egyptian translates to say,

"the people of the lion with spirit force"

Hence, the pyramid and all-seeing eye on the one-dollar bill. The Latinized version translates to say, "love riches", in a feminized/physical reality way. This gives an idea of what they had in mind.

Take this a step further, and one sees the mixture of the feminine Latin/eagle ideas with the masculine Hebrew/lion ideas. The symbolic statement of America is that it is a combination of Lemuria and Atlantis; a blend of the human/Lyrae with Reptilian/Draco. Perhaps the anagram LSD, an Illuminati created drug, has a hidden meaning as well: Lyrae-Sirius-Draco!

The combination of these three civilizations would produce the most powerful, technological Empire ever known!

In 1776, the creation of the United States as an independent nation coincided with the declaration into public existence of the official Illuminati organization by member Adam Weishaupt, in Bavaria. Publicly, Mr. Weishaupt appeared to be determined to create an organization comprised of the European elite that would uplift mankind.

Of course, this was part of an Illuminati global ceremony. The creation for the United States and the Illuminati global ceremony. The creation of the United States and the Illuminati organization were artificial beginnings for public consumption. The United States was the device to be used to bring the Illuminati into public acceptance. Current Illuminati members believe that Adam Weishaupt was a look-alike for George Washington, and it is actually Weishaupts image that appears on the one-dollar bill.

George Washington was a wealthy slave and plantation owner. He is known to have raped some of his female slaves and used some of the male slaves in ritualistic ceremony. There are many people of the Black race who can literally trace their genetics to the founding fathers. George Washington also ordered the building of the Montauk Lighthouse in 1796. This lighthouse included an underground area for supply storage in case of a British coastline invasion. If he had only known what that area would become - or did he?

The 13 ruling Illuminati families constantly vie for control amongst themselves. During this time period, the Spanish, British, and French Illuminati all fought to win control over North and South America. The Rothschilds kept these Illuminati factions in line by sending Hessian troops to monitor the situation. The leaders enjoyed these war games, pitting one against the other to see who would win. The hundreds of thousands of lives lost were meaningless to them.

The Manifest Destiny of the United States was created to expand the territory of the Aryans at the expense of the native populations. As always, the Illuminati seek to destroy native peoples and their cultures. This is an attempt to destroy their knowledge of God-Mind, as well as the possibility that the natives will impart this information on to others. Especially important is their need to eliminate native cultures with ancient knowledge of Atlantis and Lyrae.

The natives that gave them the most problem were the Cherokee Indians because this tribe retained most of their Atlantean knowledge, even accessing the Bear/Bigfoot frequency for information. For this reason, these people were uprooted from their homeland in the southern Appalachian Mountains, and forcibly marched to Oklahoma on what is now known as The Trail of Tears. Many died along the way. Only a remnant remained in North Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia. In the north, the vast Iroquois/Mohawk nation was disbanded. The Montauk, direct descendents of the Atlanteans who call their leaderPharaoh, were systematically eliminated.

The Rothschilds were aggressively involved with the slave trade from Africa, importing slaves to North and South America as well as the Caribbean. They were very careful not to import Blacks from the eastern areas of Ethiopia or Sudan where the descendents of Solomon were located, instead concentrating on western and central Africa for the slave populations. These areas had the pure mixture of Anunnaki and simian genetics, and the programming desirable for the Illuminati agenda.

The Rothschilds decided that splitting the United States colonies would double their profits. So they politically created, and financially supported, the Civil War. The Civil War was actually a global ceremonial ritual to bring slavery to its next level. This war allowed the North to win, and publicly abolish slavery. The best slaves are the ones who do not realize that they are slaves. This alleviates rebellion and resistance. This was the status immediately following the Civil War. Blacks in the South are still slaves. There is still segregation, even in the North. The Illuminati still consider Blacks to be second or third class citizens. Only now the slavery is subtle and masked.

Since the Civil War, there have been other staged wars that entrenched the trend toward globalization. The Spanish-American War of 1898-1899 acquired more land for the American Illuminati, placing a greater portion of the Earth’s surface under American jurisdiction. World War I was designed to change the map of Europe as well as test germ and chemical warfare technology for future use. This coincided with the worldwide influenza outbreak designed to reduce the global population, making control easier. World War I also laid the foundation for the German role in the next war.

World War II was a test of the final globalization and extermination projects. It was also designed to test mind-control machinations; to test the use of fluoride which deadens brain activity and slows resistance to authority; to experiment with slave labor camps and study the development of resistance; and to teach the masses to spy and report on one another.

World War II brought three primary goals of the Illuminati to fruition.

The first was that hidden Illuminati symbolisms were brought to public attention from the underground strongholds in Tibet and Egypt, such as the Swastika and the ankh.

The second was the creation of the State of Israel as a foundation for the New World Religion. The last was the creation of nuclear weapons as part of the Illuminati global ceremony.

During World War II, the Germans helped to perfect "sex-slaves" as a means of transmitting information amongst the elite. Sex-slaves can be either male or female, who are sexually programmed using Wilhelm Reich procedures, which are illegal in the United States, but used by the Illuminati and government.

These sex-slaves deliver messages and keep programmed sleepers in line. The sex-slave is downloaded with a message or function through various sexual acts and drugs, which can only be released by repeating the same sexual act with the target, or person, to be activated. They are trained to know their target’s trigger words and trigger events to activate, delete, or change programming.

In recent years, several women have come forward claiming to be the sex-slaves of globally recognized political figures. Many were used as information couriers between high-level male Illuminati. Usually, look-alikes of the political figures are used in the incipient programming as a focal point for the sex-slave. The slave is put through a desensitizing process, so there is no pleasure in the sexual act; it is merely a duty to be performed. Many times the slave becomes sexually promiscuous, repeatedly having sex with people who look like the intended target. It is a sad life.

By the end of World War II, one of the three major Illuminati global rituals was accomplished. This was the nuclear explosion that took place in 1945 at the 33rd parallel as a test for the nuclear attack on Japan. This explosion was symbolic, representing the simultaneous creation and destruction of matter and energy. The year was symbolic as well. In numerology, 1 + 9 = 10, representing the 10 aspects of God-Mind. The number 10 further breaks down to 1 + 0 = 1, representing a new beginning. Continuing, 4 + 5 = 9, representing the end of a cycle. Symbolically, the entire event represented the end of a cycle to prepare for a new beginning using the new creation of God-Mind out of destruction.

Additionally, a cylinder containing material still not explained by the government was trucked into the nuclear explosion testing. This cylinder was made from pure steel and allegedly was the same physical dimensions as the Kabala describes for the creation of Golems. Kabala is ancient Hebrew metaphysics that has been a staple for the Illuminati for millennia. Golems are artificial beings that are used as a slave force. It is highly probable that this was a symbolic ritual for the creation of the society of Golems.

World War II also allowed the European/American Illuminati to destroy the Japanese Illuminati desires of global domination. The Japanese royal family, represented by Emperor Hirohito, have always been ostracized as non-legitimate by the ruling 13 families. The Japanese claim to be direct descendents of Lemurian purebred Reptilians.

The European/American Illuminati claim that the Japanese Illuminati are descendents from a lower species in the Draco hierarchy. This lower species is considered a worker class without any political clout or influence. The European/American Illuminati also claim that East Indians are a lower species in the Draco hierarchy. The 13 ruling families consider light skin and hair to be an elite characteristic.

On January 17, 1994, Japan sent a seismic event to California. Exactly one year later on January 17, 1995, the city of Kobe, Japan was seismically destroyed. Kobe was the home of the Japanese electromagnetic weaponry centers. The European/American Illuminati will not tolerate thorns in their sides. The destruction of Japan and its royal family will continue in the coming months.

Every year, the Illuminati hold meetings to plan the events of the coming year to accomplish their main objective formulated millennia ago of global control and domination. In the 1850s, they pinpointed their target date for complete domination with an agenda called Plan 2000. This has since been revised to 2003. The fiasco election of George W. Bush Jr. to office is a key sign that they are on target. The public lesson of the United States presidential "election" of 2000 is that the citizens do not vote for anyone! Even the Illuminati are now finding it increasingly difficult to conceal their plans.

Although most of these secret societies are not so secret, what goes on inside them is kept secret. Many high level Illuminati members are also members of the most elite organization of them all: The Brotherhood. The Brotherhood keeps its very existence secret. The majority of the world’s billionaires are members of this “secret” secret society.

These organizations were organized hundreds even thousands of years ago for the purpose of networking amongst royal families, religious leaders and heads of industry. Throughout history, wealthy elite families only married members of other wealthy elite families.

These families (generally 17) are still in charge of society today through many fronts. High level government officials, CEO’s of major multi-national conglomerate corporations, heads of colleges, many religious leaders, military generals, titans of industry are all chosen and put in place by the specific design of Illuminati members.

These 17 families include:
1. Astor
2. Bundy
3. Collins
4. DuPont
5. Freeman
6. Kennedy
7. Li (Chinese)
8. Onassis
9. Rockefeller
10. Rothschild
11. Russell
12. Van Duyn
13. Merovingian (European Bloodlines)
14. Reynolds
15. Disney
16. Krupp
17. McDonald

The reach of these people stretches through all areas of society. From the production of food and basic necessities to commodities, to housing, government, medicine, to all industrial needs and banking institutions, to entertainment; this small group of people pull the strings to orchestrate world affairs to their liking.

Their main goal is to create a one world government with a slavery class to support them. Illuminati members want to reduce the global population to 500 million (per Georgia Guide Stones) and lower the standards of living in all civilized nations.

The effects of this one world government are becoming more and more apparent. We see the pooling of nations via the United Nations. For example, the European Union, the upcoming North American Union, and the Asian Union and African Union are all coming to fruition through a shrewd design to divide and rule. Presidents of countries are picked months in advance. Citizens are made to believe that they have voting power, when in fact democracy is just an illusion.

All major global affairs are carefully planned and thought out by this group. World events that most people see as chance or coincidence are actually a deliberate plan to dis-empower people and gain more control. A few examples of this are: the 911 “terrorist attacks” (which were a false flag operation designed to pass the patriot act among other things) and also the Indonesian tidal wave, hurricane Katrina, and the recent Haiti earthquakes were all caused by HAARP scalar technology invented by Tesla. Much of this technology is now based on satellites in space.

Evidence of Illuminati or “illuminated ones” or “all knowing ones” is apparent throughout society. The pyramid and single eye on the US one dollar bill is a prime example of their symbolism. The single eye or “all seeing eye” can be found everywhere in society especially in marketing and entertainment…from the winking eye logo of the Pepsi Company, to the pop culture music princess Lady Gaga covering one eye in nearly every photo to the America online logo and more.

Much knowledge is available and understood about Illuminati members, however the vast majority of the population is completely unaware of what is going on. There is a war between good and evil, between tyranny and suppression verses honesty, productivity and life. Awareness is needed on a massive scale in order for good to prevail in this final war of the worlds.
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Well, my, my , you wrote a book here, very impressive, But there are many of these on Amazon.com with the same info

You did a good job,

You have a book for sale?

Many many words, but you are missing the point

Have you known any Illuminati at all???????

I do, and I am one, a new one. trained up to be a Astrologer Priest

The Astrologer Priests knew that the life cycles ran by the cycles of the stars, and they charted up our futures

I'm sorry to say this, but we have run out of time as a planet, either you want some to live or you want no body to live cause the next big extinction is about to happen

All the hullabaloo about history and human nature cannot be verified, Many events have been marketed and manipulated to sound worse than they are by enemies or to sound better than what actually happened, but thats not the point

Im here to promote the Great work and teach people how the planets actually influence them due to the properties of the morning stars and the ionic powers they have. The spiritual initiation of the soul transcends the petty materialism of life and I think you got the wrong guys

We do the Great Work of our Forefathers, making the soul of man from lead to gold, to turn his thinking into Ordo Ab Chao and in alignment with the Providence of God and Love

Im sorry youve been so misinformed, but call it marketing

Give the people what they want, Its how a parent spoils their wayward children. look within your own human genetics on what is so wrong and contemplate how to fix it. The problem isnt outside of oneself, it is within.


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OP, do you honestly think that humanity is ever going to change, for have you not noticed that we are all the same people constantly repeating the same mistakes, it is only our environment that changes with the ability to create weapons to destroy ourselves totally.

While the madmen believe that they can control a war with such weapons.

But I do support you in your efforts to bring it to the attention of others, though honestly I think that we maybe entering into what is the end game, and it is to late to stop the madmen.
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By the way, you will never know the REAL plan, cause it is far to Grand and Holy for you to even contemplate. Disinfo works well and surface stage plays feed those who feed on the negative.

Everything is ours, In your mind you cause the division and the separation and the fears..

There is no truth in your essay, no mention of what God has in store for those with pure hearts and pure vision

Ye of little faith...
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OP, do you honestly think that humanity is ever going to change, for have you not noticed that we are all the same people constantly repeating the same mistakes, it is only our environment that changes with the ability to create weapons to destroy ourselves totally.

While the madmen believe that they can control a war with such weapons.

But I do support you in your efforts to bring it to the attention of others, though honestly I think that we maybe entering into what is the end game, and it is to late to stop the madmen.
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To stop the madmen is to stop all of humanity. Dont you see? you are the enemy.

You think nature will allow a 70-80 year selfish species to spread their diseases and litter and sex obsession across the whole universe??

You cannot fathom a bright, calm, trustworthy human with a 1,000 plus year lifespan?

Its all moot anyways

The destroyer from the skies is coming and you are fighting the wrong guys, and the hand that will likely save your lives.

All of humanity is about to go extinct..

but keep on, keep on your Cowboy and Indian play while the rest of us tries to prepare for the inevitable..
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Thread: WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test

WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test


take the test here.

[link to www.thesecretworld.com]

The beta registration will be integrated into a new, interactive social media campaign that will pit community members in each of the three secret societies against each other in the secret war.

secret war coming our way soon ????

take the test and look at the pictures hmmmm wtf ?

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Thread: WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test

WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test


take the test here.

[link to www.thesecretworld.com]

The beta registration will be integrated into a new, interactive social media campaign that will pit community members in each of the three secret societies against each other in the secret war.

secret war coming our way soon ????

take the test and look at the pictures hmmmm wtf ?
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Fun little game, I did it last year, came up with Illuminati of course.tounge
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"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." - Myron Fagan

All of these threads, thousands of them every day, bashing religions, cultures and political beliefs is falling right into the hands of the Illuminati. They have done this for thousands of years and apparently there are many who are still not aware of this. I would suggest focusing on THEIR agenda instead of the rest of mankind. You come here seeking truth. Looking for who is behind the curtain but every time you uncover a new plot you find a reason to be angry with a race, creed or religion.

You blame the majority of society for their problems which are caused by a small group, 1% maybe of humanity that sew these seeds of hatred within you. This is how you are perpetually distracted, blinded by fear, anger, hatred and distrust of your fellow brothers and sisters. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE UNTIL HUMANITY CAN WAKE UP TO THIS!

I remain hopeful however because every day I see more and more waking up to the REAL truth and the elite are very afraid of us because they are no longer hidden. This is why recently the intensity of world events have dramatically escalated.

I only hope you can look past your differences and instead see your similarities. I know there is love behind the mask of anger at what has been done to you. We are overcoming the darkness and I believe it will be conquered once and for all.

The Illuminati Exposed - Myron Fagan - 1967 - part 1/9



Cultures are supposed to be unique. The problem is that the elite have worked behind the scenes for thousands of years to turn us against each other in their sick twisted games to control and dominate humanity. They literally get off on fear and death. It's like a drug for them.

STOP FEEDING THE BEAST & IT WILL WITHER AND DIE!

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For those who prefer to read:
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AI, i'm afraid that astrology tripe is just your false gnostic religion. There's no truth in it and you do well to disabuse yourself of it even if it means cutting family loose.
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by Gary H. Kah

Masonic Origins

According to Albert Pike, Gnosticism was an offshoot of Kabalism, an oral occult tradition, which was adhered to by a minority of the Jews. At some point, which remains uncertain, these occult teachings were reduced to writing, and the Kabalah was born. On page 626 of Morals and Dogma, Pike states, "The Kabalah is the key of all Masonry and the occult sciences; and the Gnostics were born of the Kabalists."

Kabalism was merely a unique version of the ancient mysteries specifically designed to deceive God's ( OT ) chosen people. Unlike the other mysteries, its teachings dealt specifically with Israel, offering occult counter-explanations to the revelations of the prophets, complete with a cleverly disguised occult interpretation of the history of Israel. Moses, for example, rather than being the righteous prophet of God who led the Israelites out of Egypt, was made out to be an occult figure whose purpose was to initiate the Israelites into the enlightened and more advanced teachings of Egypt.

If Kabalism could be viewed as the occult counter-explanation of the Old Testament, Gnosticism, existing as a further development of Kabalism and taking into account Satan's "new problem" posed by the risen Christ, would serve as the main occult counterattack against the New Testament. Thus, Kabalism and Gnosticism combined, composed a type of occult parallel to the Old and New Testaments.

Gnosticism, although originally composed of Jewish occultists, rapidly gained Gentile followers until it soon became predominantly Gentile. As the priesthoods were forced to take on new forms, Gnosticism became a magnet for these occult adepts. Branches of Gnosticism represented the first significant secret societies of the post-resurrection era with various degrees or levels of initiation and the inner circle of initiates worshiping Lucifer.

Gnosticism

A significant amount of space has been devoted to the discussion of Gnosticism in Masonic reference works. Morals and Dogma, for example, has allotted more than forty pages to Gnosticism and its connection with Freemasonry. Albert Pike, the book's author, offers the following explanation of Gnosticism:

"The Gnostics derived their leading doctrines and ideas from Plato and Philo, the Zend-avesta and the Kabalah, and the Sacred books of India and Egypt; and thus introduced into the bosom of Christianity the cosmological and theosophical speculations, which had formed the larger portion of the ancient religions of the Orient, joined to those of the Egyptian, Greek, and Jewish doctrines, which the New-Platonists had equally adopted in the Occident" (Morals and Dogma, 248).

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Babylon

The true origin of Western civilization is to be found not in Greece, but in Babylon, in the sixth century BC, with the development of the Kabbalah. The exact origins of the Kabbalah have long been subject to controversy. According to the Kabbalists themselves, its teachings date back to the prophets like Solomon, or Moses, and even Adam, and supposedly represent a hidden interpretation of the Bible.

However, the key to understanding the origin of the Kabbalah, and reassessing not only the claims of mainstream historians, but those suggestions put forth by controversial authors like Graham Hancock, or those of the Holy Blood Holy Grail, or Dan Brown's notorious Da Vinci Code, about the true teachings of the Bible, is to recognize that the basic ideas of the Kabbalah are definitely foreign, were heretical in nature, and introduced only later. Specifically, these ideas are identical to those attributed in ancient times to the Chaldean Magi of Babylon.



Ancient Greece

The initial plan of the Kabbalists was to seek global domination, disguised by a Zionist interpretation of the Bible, according to which, at the advent of the Messiah, they would be instated as rulers of the world. But little development took place in the Kabbalah after its initial inception in Babylon. It was Plato who was the first to elaborate on the basic teachings of this new doctrine.

It was in the Republic though, that Plato established the basis of the future totalitarian New World Order, to be governed by Philosopher Kings, and ever since, has been referred in the occult as the great godfather of their tradition, and continues to be applied today by the pernicious political maneuverings of the Neo-Conservatives.

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Claims made about the Jew conspiracy have been debunked as protocol propaganda. The Templar Knights and Jesuits founded FreeMasonry.

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The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1.CLERMONT COLLEGE 2.Jesuits 3.PERFECTION RITE 4.SCOTTISH RITE)

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AI, i'm afraid that astrology tripe is just your false gnostic religion. There's no truth in it and you do well to disabuse yourself of it even if it means cutting family loose.
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Youre right, Sun is just a pretty hot ball of helium,

Other planets are nice gaseous blobs of decoration.

Its why George Washington (Freemason) was a great astrologer/astronomer and Helped found our nation by timing his alignments, Have you seen his astrologer diary???

Its why all the High Priests in Power were also accomplished star gazers and its why we are neck in neck running parallel to the alignments of WW2 , hmmmmm

Can you say "stock market crash, (great depression) and upcoming world leader?

You will be so surprised, dont thank me when what I say comes true. Half of it already has.

I know everything that is coming to pass before you do, Its easy for those that know how.
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Claims made about the Jew conspiracy have been debunked as protocol propaganda. The Templar Knights and Jesuits founded FreeMasonry.

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The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1.CLERMONT COLLEGE 2.Jesuits 3.PERFECTION RITE 4.SCOTTISH RITE)

[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
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Adam Weishaupt was also a Jesuit, founder of the Illuminati, Jesus is the head of the Order

Nothing in Heaven nor Earth will stop the Lamb of the Ages to return the world to his Father.

The grip of the Lions Paw will raise him.
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Well, my, my , you wrote a book here, very impressive, But there are many of these on Amazon.com with the same info

You did a good job,

You have a book for sale?
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No, I do not have a book to sell anyone. I gather information and add my thoughts to it to present my take on the events of the world, to offer another perspective. I am not interested in material gains from my work.
Many many words, but you are missing the point
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Oh really? What is it?
Have you known any Illuminati at all???????
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Personally? No. I think that I see where you are going with this line of questioning however and I will say this, I judge myself and others based upon actions and results rather than the words that are spoken.
I do, and I am one, a new one. trained up to be a Astrologer Priest
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Good for you. I am well versed in Astrology, Tarot and the Kabala since childhood. I never said there was anything wrong with that. They are very powerful tools that can be used towards positive or negative means.

Yes, in part, however the future is not predetermined. You should know that by now. There can be an intervention at any moment.
I'm sorry to say this, but we have run out of time as a planet, either you want some to live or you want no body to live cause the next big extinction is about to happen
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Yes I think you may be correct however, refer to my previous comment. No one knows exactly what will occur. It may not even be an extinction but rather a transformation. I will not however give credit for this to those who have committed unspeakable crimes against humanity just because they use the ways of magick to influence the world.
All the hullabaloo about history and human nature cannot be verified, Many events have been marketed and manipulated to sound worse than they are by enemies or to sound better than what actually happened, but thats not the point
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Indeed, history has been twisted and changed to fit the mold of how the elite wish the rest of humanity to believe how the world is so that they might continue their game. Maybe it is not your point but what I have said is true. They have done it and if allowed to, will continue to do so. What is your point then?
Im here to promote the Great work and teach people how the planets actually influence them due to the properties of the morning stars and the ionic powers they have. The spiritual initiation of the soul transcends the petty materialism of life and I think you got the wrong guys
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I never pointed my finger specifically at you and said you were a bad person. I do not know you. I have read some of your writing here (I am not a "newbie" to this forum) and agree with much of what you say, but not all of it. We have had conversations similar to this before laughcoffee4
We do the Great Work of our Forefathers, making the soul of man from lead to gold, to turn his thinking into Ordo Ab Chao and in alignment with the Providence of God and Love
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Excuse me but I never asked for this nor do I need you to convert my soul into anything. I am perfectly capable of managing my own soul and finding my own connection to love and the source of creation. Nobody ever asked you to do this and yet your "group" have taken it upon themselves to intervene upon humanity to steer it in a way you see fit. This goes against the laws of manifest destiny and self determination if I am not mistaken. You hide your secrets in plain sight within code, riddles and mystery and mock the uninitiated for their ignorance. You sequester artifacts and knowledge away from humanity to use for your own materialistic gains and then turn around and say that you have no materialistic desire yet I look at your so-called leaders and that is exactly what they have used their knowledge for. They have stolen the wealth of knowledge of human history and used it for their materialistic gain.
Im sorry youve been so misinformed, but call it marketing
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On the contrary, I am very well informed and do not buy into the marketing scams used by the powerful to try to sway us into materialistic desires.
Give the people what they want, Its how a parent spoils their wayward children. look within your own human genetics on what is so wrong and contemplate how to fix it. The problem isnt outside of oneself, it is within.


Fiat Lux
Consummatum Est
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Believe it or not many of us are aware of this and do our best in life to be beautiful and productive beings. The big problem is that a select few who you claim to be aligned with have used their power to manipulate and dominate humanity. We are steered into wars of conquest for false reasons and then blamed for the consequences in order to pass on the karma that results. We are told what is to occur before hand and by not rejecting the persuasions, out of greed and a grandiose sense of elitism that we are in some way superior to other cultures we are made to take upon ourselves the negative karma associated with these actions.

I do not, nor do many like me accept this. We do not accept that history is preordained. We have awakened to the truth that within us exists a greater power than anything ever imagined. We have the power to, if we choose, change the course and put things right. I am not here to judge you. I do not know what you have done in your life. It sounds like perhaps we may be very similar in some ways. I have simply constructed the message here to illustrate how humanity has been deceived into believing that we must be ruled by an elite few who believe they know better. Look where it has gotten us. Look at how many wars have occurred since 1776. What real good has all of the bloodshed brought? I see none.

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Apollo Luminaughty, so you like the mysticism of the kabbalah, and the mystery Talmudic religion of Babylon.

Those who lose their lives shall save it, and those who seek to save their lives shall lose it.

Remember all books in religion caters in some parts to peoples fantasies, and thirst for control, only time will reveal what is truth.
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Thread: WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test

WTF ? what secret society do you belong to game to be released april 2012 new world order test


take the test here.

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The beta registration will be integrated into a new, interactive social media campaign that will pit community members in each of the three secret societies against each other in the secret war.

secret war coming our way soon ????

take the test and look at the pictures hmmmm wtf ?
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Haha, I am, as is my real Chinese Zodiac symbol, perfectly suited for the Dragon.
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Apollo Luminaughty, so you like the mysticism of the kabbalah, and the mystery Talmudic religion of Babylon.

Those who lose their lives shall save it, and those who seek to save their lives shall lose it.

Remember all books in religion caters in some parts to peoples fantasies, and thirst for control, only time will reveal what is truth.
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Heavyheadfred, I look forward to it, truly, to be judged on all that I have learned within the sphere of Daath after the High Priestess granted me entrance.

The redescent down the tree is the big test and what Kind of Crown will guide a new Malkuth

Im fully prepared to redeem my baggage or learn more about it and whats within my true thirst, It will be interesting to truly KNOW THYSELF:


Kabbalah teaches that each of us comes into this world with baggage from previous lifetimes. This baggage contains all the situations where we short circuited in our last lives, or in some point in this life. Each time we fail to resist our reactive behavior, we have to correct it at some point in the future. This concept of correction is called Tikkun.” (The Power of Kabbalah, Yehuda Berg, p. 165)
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most of you don't know what the illuminati were.


they are hundreds of years old, not thousands as op suggests.


they went underground as scholars and scientists persecuted by

the catholic church and its inquisitions.


they were inventors, artists, reformers and innovators and

without people like them we'd all be in the dark ages.
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most of you don't know what the illuminati were.


they are hundreds of years old, not thousands as op suggests.


they went underground as scholars and scientists persecuted by

the catholic church and its inquisitions.


they were inventors, artists, reformers and innovators and

without people like them we'd all be in the dark ages.
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Actually their ilk date back to the time of Babylon and perhaps even Atlantis.
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most of you don't know what the illuminati were.


they are hundreds of years old, not thousands as op suggests.


they went underground as scholars and scientists persecuted by

the catholic church and its inquisitions.


they were inventors, artists, reformers and innovators and

without people like them we'd all be in the dark ages.
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A+++ about them being the inventors and artists and reformers and innovators and scientists

So many ignorant attack those that brought you so much freedom and comfort

But now all is harmonized amongst them, all are ONE. Even the Church who upholds the Mother and the Son, sacred prophecy of our redeemer in the stars...

Its so sad that the persecution of the illuminati never really ended, now they are attacked by those in conspiracy circles.
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most of you don't know what the illuminati were.


they are hundreds of years old, not thousands as op suggests.


they went underground as scholars and scientists persecuted by

the catholic church and its inquisitions.


they were inventors, artists, reformers and innovators and

without people like them we'd all be in the dark ages.
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Actually their ilk date back to the time of Babylon and perhaps even Atlantis.
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Funny how, without the illuminati, youd be a low browed , hunched over cannibal running in the bushes,

hmmmm.

Attack your own Gods and Creators, typical of those that are not grateful of what we do have
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Adam Weishaupt was also a Jesuit, founder of the Illuminati, Jesus is the head of the Order
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Horus is the head of their society +
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Adam Weishaupt was also a Jesuit, founder of the Illuminati, Jesus is the head of the Order
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Horus is the head of their society +
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Well, same thing in many ways,

Horus is Horizon, Set is Sunset

Jesus was the Lion of Judah, Sun at its greatest strength in Leo

Jesus had 12 disciples, like King Arthur had 12 knights at the round table

12 is the number of the 12 Zodiac or Path of the Sun/Son.

You can see Jesus' sun Halo in many Catholic paintings.
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Vote for Ron Paul. That's how we defeat them.



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most of you don't know what the illuminati were.


they are hundreds of years old, not thousands as op suggests.


they went underground as scholars and scientists persecuted by

the catholic church and its inquisitions.


they were inventors, artists, reformers and innovators and

without people like them we'd all be in the dark ages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507701


Actually their ilk date back to the time of Babylon and perhaps even Atlantis.
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But today they are Freemasons descendants of the Templars. Keep it real You can go down town and knock on their door. They run your town and mine and much more.

The Templar masonic Illuminati did not end the dark ages. They continue to rebuiild the dark ages for Rome.

old world order - Rome's Catholic Papal Stats - holy roman empire.

new world order - the Jesuits secular masonic knights. More of the same, only secular.

The Protestant Reformation and the Bible caused the end of the dark ages and downfall of the Papal States. The enlightenment was only a result of this from those who chose non Christianity not possible before the Reformation. Jesuit history would like to forget the Reformation.
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To Apollo Illuminaughty

To know one's true self would be a wonder, and part of that self we already know, as for the other that has lessons to overcome, each one depends with whom you interact with through life.

As for the illuminated ones being responsible for where we are today, was that not handed down to them from Adam, after all he did eat from the tree of Knowledge.
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I took the test and just exactly like my Chinese zodiac sign and even more so similar with my astrological sign of being a
Pisces / Aquarius Moon...

You would be perfect for the:
Dragon

"The Art of Chaos"

Manipulators and conspirators, the Dragon have survived for millennia by playing their enemies against each other. Since before the first empire, through the aggression of the Mongol Khans and the ebb and tide of political change, a whisper in the right ear, a strategic assassination, alliances carefully crafted and broken - and the world eventually bends to the patient will of the immortal Dragon.

With a spiritual and philosophical approach to the secret crafts, as an acolyte of the Dragon you are taught to listen, shown how to teach others, and expected to respect the balance of the universe and to be humble in the face of fate. Yours is not the path of force, though force is often needed to clear the path.

Few know of the dragon and their long history, and that is how the dragon want it. You are invisible but pervasive, silent but all-knowing, and when the other secret societies have decimated each other, you will rebuild the world from the ruins of their arrogance.

The Dragon is too easily underestimated, but those who do so live to regret it - or die before they get the chance.
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To Apollo Illuminaughty

To know one's true self would be a wonder, and part of that self we already know, as for the other that has lessons to overcome, each one depends with whom you interact with through life.

As for the illuminated ones being responsible for where we are today, was that not handed down to them from Adam, after all he did eat from the tree of Knowledge.
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Yes it was, Its within our genetics

The Snake in the Tree is DNA, the knowledge is the fruit, the branches of the tree is the neurons of the brain

Thank you Heavy for your support and input. It is so refreshing.

We were all meant to learn of ones true self, that will lead to our immortal lives.

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"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." - Myron Fagan

All of these threads, thousands of them every day, bashing religions, cultures and political beliefs is falling right into the hands of the Illuminati. They have done this for thousands of years and apparently there are many who are still not aware of this. I would suggest focusing on THEIR agenda instead of the rest of mankind. You come here seeking truth. Looking for who is behind the curtain but every time you uncover a new plot you find a reason to be angry with a race, creed or religion.

You blame the majority of society for their problems which are caused by a small group, 1% maybe of humanity that sew these seeds of hatred within you. This is how you are perpetually distracted, blinded by fear, anger, hatred and distrust of your fellow brothers and sisters. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE UNTIL HUMANITY CAN WAKE UP TO THIS!

I remain hopeful however because every day I see more and more waking up to the REAL truth and the elite are very afraid of us because they are no longer hidden. This is why recently the intensity of world events have dramatically escalated.

I only hope you can look past your differences and instead see your similarities. I know there is love behind the mask of anger at what has been done to you. We are overcoming the darkness and I believe it will be conquered once and for all.

The Illuminati Exposed - Myron Fagan - 1967 - part 1/9



Cultures are supposed to be unique. The problem is that the elite have worked behind the scenes for thousands of years to turn us against each other in their sick twisted games to control and dominate humanity. They literally get off on fear and death. It's like a drug for them.

STOP FEEDING THE BEAST & IT WILL WITHER AND DIE!

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definitely

because until you are aware of the fact and refuse to be party to it under any circumstance you are in effect and in truth part of the problem

ignorance is one thing, but once awake it's your responsibility not to be sucked in or swayed by the rhetoric
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if we are going to be righteously indignant, which everyone should be once fully aware, we need to make sure we focus it on the real perpetrators, not the intended targets of THEIR intention and design

unless or until we rage specifically against that particular machine and it's myriad machinations we are merely raging against ourselves, in truth
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Well, my, my , you wrote a book here, very impressive, But there are many of these on Amazon.com with the same info

You did a good job,

You have a book for sale?
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No, I do not have a book to sell anyone. I gather information and add my thoughts to it to present my take on the events of the world, to offer another perspective. I am not interested in material gains from my work.
Many many words, but you are missing the point
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Oh really? What is it?
Have you known any Illuminati at all???????
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Personally? No. I think that I see where you are going with this line of questioning however and I will say this, I judge myself and others based upon actions and results rather than the words that are spoken.
I do, and I am one, a new one. trained up to be a Astrologer Priest
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Good for you. I am well versed in Astrology, Tarot and the Kabala since childhood. I never said there was anything wrong with that. They are very powerful tools that can be used towards positive or negative means.
Yes, in part, however the future is not predetermined. You should know that by now. There can be an intervention at any moment.
I'm sorry to say this, but we have run out of time as a planet, either you want some to live or you want no body to live cause the next big extinction is about to happen
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Yes I think you may be correct however, refer to my previous comment. No one knows exactly what will occur. It may not even be an extinction but rather a transformation. I will not however give credit for this to those who have committed unspeakable crimes against humanity just because they use the ways of magick to influence the world.
All the hullabaloo about history and human nature cannot be verified, Many events have been marketed and manipulated to sound worse than they are by enemies or to sound better than what actually happened, but thats not the point
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Indeed, history has been twisted and changed to fit the mold of how the elite wish the rest of humanity to believe how the world is so that they might continue their game. Maybe it is not your point but what I have said is true. They have done it and if allowed to, will continue to do so. What is your point then?
Im here to promote the Great work and teach people how the planets actually influence them due to the properties of the morning stars and the ionic powers they have. The spiritual initiation of the soul transcends the petty materialism of life and I think you got the wrong guys
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

I never pointed my finger specifically at you and said you were a bad person. I do not know you. I have read some of your writing here (I am not a "newbie" to this forum) and agree with much of what you say, but not all of it. We have had conversations similar to this before laughcoffee4
We do the Great Work of our Forefathers, making the soul of man from lead to gold, to turn his thinking into Ordo Ab Chao and in alignment with the Providence of God and Love
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

Excuse me but I never asked for this nor do I need you to convert my soul into anything. I am perfectly capable of managing my own soul and finding my own connection to love and the source of creation. Nobody ever asked you to do this and yet your "group" have taken it upon themselves to intervene upon humanity to steer it in a way you see fit. This goes against the laws of manifest destiny and self determination if I am not mistaken. You hide your secrets in plain sight within code, riddles and mystery and mock the uninitiated for their ignorance. You sequester artifacts and knowledge away from humanity to use for your own materialistic gains and then turn around and say that you have no materialistic desire yet I look at your so-called leaders and that is exactly what they have used their knowledge for. They have stolen the wealth of knowledge of human history and used it for their materialistic gain.
Im sorry youve been so misinformed, but call it marketing
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

On the contrary, I am very well informed and do not buy into the marketing scams used by the powerful to try to sway us into materialistic desires.
Give the people what they want, Its how a parent spoils their wayward children. look within your own human genetics on what is so wrong and contemplate how to fix it. The problem isnt outside of oneself, it is within.


Fiat Lux
Consummatum Est
-Apollo
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


Believe it or not many of us are aware of this and do our best in life to be beautiful and productive beings. The big problem is that a select few who you claim to be aligned with have used their power to manipulate and dominate humanity. We are steered into wars of conquest for false reasons and then blamed for the consequences in order to pass on the karma that results. We are told what is to occur before hand and by not rejecting the persuasions, out of greed and a grandiose sense of elitism that we are in some way superior to other cultures we are made to take upon ourselves the negative karma associated with these actions.

I do not, nor do many like me accept this. We do not accept that history is preordained. We have awakened to the truth that within us exists a greater power than anything ever imagined. We have the power to, if we choose, change the course and put things right. I am not here to judge you. I do not know what you have done in your life. It sounds like perhaps we may be very similar in some ways. I have simply constructed the message here to illustrate how humanity has been deceived into believing that we must be ruled by an elite few who believe they know better. Look where it has gotten us. Look at how many wars have occurred since 1776. What real good has all of the bloodshed brought? I see none.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


Thank you for your response but its riddled with backtracking excuses and innocent sounding arguments

I responded to your purpose for this whole thread and that was to attack a system, and inform and rally others who are angry as you are.

Any innocent new age argument of "creating your own destiny" is partially true. You are doing it yourself now creating a "bad guy" and will likely find yourself in a camp of some sort or cattle car like Conspiracy theorists talk about all the time

Why are you creating this dimension of reality for yourself?

And may I ask, WHY are you turning sides after learning occult knowledge?

No initiate would choose one side over the other, they know the light and dark sides of themselves, that we are all ONE.

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