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Is Ron Paul a free mason/illuminati? Serious question.

 
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Is Ron Paul a free mason/illuminati? Serious question.
So I have been getting very interested in Ron Paul & his message. Seems like he has support here on GLP.

So here's my question: Can he be trusted to he who he says he is? Or is he another illuminati tool? (I'm not ruling out that he plays the game with the free masons to get where he is but is truly sold-out to his message of liberty, etc.)

I want to know what you all think. Is he the real deal or are we just falling for the same bs all over again? Please enlighten me!

Here's an example of a youtube video pointing to free mason connections.


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Does it really matter at this point?
The game is up, at least Ron Paul makes sense. The mason's/illuminati have a sense of humour as well. They will dangle your 'saviour' in front of your face and make you all poke at it him. The wiles and machinations of the controller class are such that they will offer you freedom, then you have to choose.
Ron Paul's variation on freedom is flawed, fatally. But so is the whole cystem (sic). So pick your poison. By choosing the noose of a new gold standard those without gold are merited useless. The economy WILL recover, slowly. But we/you will be propelled back into some Medieval fantasy where a worthless chunk of metal is meaningful. It will draw us back into the physical instead of boot-strapping us into tomorrow (Social Credit).
There is NO other choice. At least he will do his darndest (sp?) to get America out of global conflicts which will never be won. It's a start.

Voting for Ron Paul is kind of like taking your first move with your Queen in chess...you better know why or you are toast. Ron Paul is the first move towards the vox populi actually dong anything meaningful in a very long time. So, go ahead, get prepared for your world to change and change rapidly. But he's the only dog on this hunt that can (eventually) land a kill.

I'm not overly clear nor seemingly lucid at this point in time
but to make a decent summary...
Ron Paul is America's last chance at making a dire situation dim.
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Thanks lancifer93. I guess I'm not sure it matters either.

But if given the chance, I want the least poison possible! I guess there's a part of me that believes we can come together & spread a message that will bring about true change for our country & in turn, our world. And then part of me says, we are just stuck in this machine that is too big & too global to do anything about other than pray for God to intervene.

Anyway, I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst & trying to decide where to put my energy. If Ron Paul is the best choice for our next President, I will do my darndest to get the message out!
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Ron Paul
AKA Ronald Ernest Paul

Born: 20-Aug-1935
Birthplace: Pittsburgh, PA


Gender: Male
Religion: Protestant
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Politician
Party Affiliation: Republican [1]

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Congressman, Texas 14th

Military service: USAF (1963-65); US Air National Guard (1965-68)

A Republican with libertarian tendencies, he opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.



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[1] Joined the Libertarian Party in 1987, and was its candidate for US President in 1988. He may still be registered as a Libertarian, but has been elected to Congress as a Republican.
Wife: Carol Wells (m. 1957, 5 children)
Son: Ronnie
Daughter: Lori
Son: Rand Paul (physician)
Son: Pyeatt
Daughter: Joy LeBlanc


High School: Dormont High School, Dormont, PA (1953)
University: BS, Gettysburg College (1957)
Medical School: MD, Duke University (1961)
Medical School: University of Pittsburgh


US Congressman, Texas 14th (3-Jan-1996 to present)
US Congressman, Texas 22nd (3-Jan-1979 to 3-Jan-1985)
US Congressman, Texas 22nd (3-Apr-1976 to 3-Jan-1977)
Advocates for Self-Government Board of Advisors
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Leadership Institute Bi-Partisan Congressional Advisory Board
Ludwig von Mises Institute Distinguished Counselor
Republican Liberty Caucus Board of Advisers
Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity
Evolution Skeptics


Official Website:
[link to www.house.gov]

Author of books:
The Case for Gold: A Minority Report of the United States Gold Commission (1982, with Lew Lehrman)


[link to www.nndb.com]

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Ron has a close association with the
John Birch Society and speaks at their
meetings. search u-tube videos.
John Birch is highly Masonic
Organization.
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Our founding fathers were masons and Thomas Jefferson was illuminati, what's your point?
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Thanks lancifer93. I guess I'm not sure it matters either.

But if given the chance, I want the least poison possible! I guess there's a part of me that believes we can come together & spread a message that will bring about true change for our country & in turn, our world. And then part of me says, we are just stuck in this machine that is too big & too global to do anything about other than pray for God to intervene.

Anyway, I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst & trying to decide where to put my energy. If Ron Paul is the best choice for our next President, I will do my darndest to get the message out!
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Ron Paul is the least possible poison, but that well, well, leads to blind submission in the end. There is no possibilty what-so-ever of the Neo-Rome having a 'pure' candidate. At least he is the very least of the possible worst. His 'followers' (myself included) are the real R3VOLution, not the heads that pop up to try and supplant us.

It all starts at your/our doorsteps and develops from there.
Plan-Plant-Planet
But by all means, get political, learn the various arguments from all sides and candidates. At least Ron's is Constitutional. Under a Ron Paul Presidency your country will barely emerge from a miasma of political back log to even see the light of a new day (not dawn, specific) to rear its head. The long road to a dignified tomorrow is well off in the distance. There are no 'quick fixes' at this point. Ron Paul is strong medicine and that entails suffering.

I'm not certain myself if the average Joe/Sally are ready for a great ayahuasca like purge.
Plant or Perish
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colorbump for info because i have heard similar...and saw him do the rock on gesture (masonic) i love ron pauls options but i guess you never know. oh ya he also has a BIG nose like all the freemasons...
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Warren A. Cole held many different jobs during his lifetime such as store owner, jewelry salesman, an assistant at the Brown University Student Union, member of the Massachusetts Highway Commission, insurance salesman, and as a Pinkerton detective.[4] He was a member of the Loyal Order of Moose, a Grand Chancellor of the Rhode Island Knights of Pythias, a better than 50-year member of the Pioneer Masonic Lodge in Somerset, Massachusetts,[8][9] and a member of the National Grange of the Order of Patrons of Husbandry.[4]
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

For those of you who do not know,
Ron Paul is a member of Lambda Chi
Alpha Fraternity.

Ron got part of his education on
a Masonic Scholarship and joined
the fraternity as part of his
brotherhood rites.

Warren A. Cole, Master Mason was the
founder of the Lambda Chi Alpha
Fraternity.
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Warren A. Cole held many different jobs during his lifetime such as store owner, jewelry salesman, an assistant at the Brown University Student Union, member of the Massachusetts Highway Commission, insurance salesman, and as a Pinkerton detective.[4] He was a member of the Loyal Order of Moose, a Grand Chancellor of the Rhode Island Knights of Pythias, a better than 50-year member of the Pioneer Masonic Lodge in Somerset, Massachusetts,[8][9] and a member of the National Grange of the Order of Patrons of Husbandry.[4]
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

For those of you who do not know,
Ron Paul is a member of Lambda Chi
Alpha Fraternity.

Ron got part of his education on
a Masonic Scholarship and joined
the fraternity as part of his
brotherhood rites.

Warren A. Cole, Master Mason was the
founder of the Lambda Chi Alpha
Fraternity.
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All these points, while fantastic for scholarly research are moot. Sorry but I've got Degree's in Freemasonry, 3rd Degree OTO (offered to the public so took them), several Wiccan High Priest degrees (OOGD, NROOGD, AW, CAW, ADF etc.) etc. Simply because I took a look at various mystery schools does not include me in some vast scheme to take over everything. Hell, bring it on if it does because I'm a self-deluded pauper with wit and merriment and I could use some delusional wealth...
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All these points, while fantastic for scholarly research are moot. Sorry but I've got Degree's in Freemasonry, 3rd Degree OTO (offered to the public so took them),
 Quoting: lancifer93


now I know ur lying,
Masonic Degrees are never
offered to the public.
the candidate must seek
enlightenment.
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No he is not!
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No he is not!
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They are deceivers who could less about us.

Freemason?
Yes.
Here's proof that he is part of the Brotherhood.

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I'm no troll you stupid fuck!hf
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They are deceivers who could less about us.

Freemason?
Yes.
Here's proof that he is part of the Brotherhood.


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When thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
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[link to bible-truths.com]

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They are deceivers who could less about us.

Freemason?
Yes.
Here's proof that he is part of the Brotherhood.


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I have not watched this video beforewtf
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Love You Too AC :hfpoo:
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So I have been getting very interested in Ron Paul & his message. Seems like he has support here on GLP.

So here's my question: Can he be trusted to he who he says he is? Or is he another illuminati tool? (I'm not ruling out that he plays the game with the free masons to get where he is but is truly sold-out to his message of liberty, etc.)

I want to know what you all think. Is he the real deal or are we just falling for the same bs all over again? Please enlighten me!

Here's an example of a youtube video pointing to free mason connections.


 Quoting: lotusflowerinbloom


First, stop being so superstitious. It isn't a sign of intelligence. No offense intended, simple truth.
There is nothing in that video having to do with the masons.

He got where he is by contributions from citizens, not corporations. He has stayed where he is because of his honesty and integrity.
Yes, Ron Paul is the real thing, absolutely genuine, has been saying the same thing for his entire career, predicted the financial debacle two decades ago, does what he says he is going to do, has recently audited the Fed finding 16 Trillion in theft and waste, has recently written Anti-TSA anti- groping legislation. He wrote a book about ending the Fed, and then marched with followers on the Federal Reserve Bank.
He has taken on the PTB, named names, called them out.

Yeh, he is for real. Brilliant, genius, common sense, consistently Constitutional his entire career. He isn't going to change now.

As for the mason stuff, no he is not a mason.
notamason

You can google Ron Paul, and pull up his history at Wikipedia. You can find hundreds of Ron Paul videos on You Tube. You can find dozens of them here if you do a search for Ron Paul threads.

Ron Paul is the only candidate qualified to do the job. He is the only true Constitutional candidate.

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[link to www.youtube.com]
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(full version) [link to www.youtube.com]

Ron Paul talks about American power structure, FED, Trilateral Commission and CFR (August 1988)
[link to www.youtube.com]
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All candidates are
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They are deceivers who could less about us.

Freemason?
Yes.
Here's proof that he is part of the Brotherhood.


 Quoting: Cosmic Messages


bumpbumpbump
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Ron Paul, the freemason:

**Ron Paul voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses.

**Ron Paul voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25

**"Iran's neighbors, who have just as much, if not more, oil wealth, could arm their own people...If they can't find enough recruits, then I would suggest they hire BLACKWATER Associates to FIELD AN ARMY FOR THEM"
- Ron Paul

**"If Iranian forces or Al Qaeda attacked our diplomatic personnel (troops), I would go to Congress for the appropriate declaration and then TURN LOOSE OUR CLANDESTINE services and/or armed forces"
- Ron Paul

**Once we have a strong economy, we'll want OPEN BORDERS because we'll need those workers
- Ron Paul

**The Arabs are important. They have a lot of oil under their control. We cannot flaunt the Arabs and say, get lost.
We must protect OUR OIL.
At the same time, there is a strong constituency for NEVER OFFENDING ISRAEL.
- Ron Paul
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First, stop being so superstitious. It isn't a sign of intelligence. No offense intended, simple truth.
There is nothing in that video having to do with the masons.

He got where he is by contributions from citizens, not corporations. He has stayed where he is because of his honesty and integrity.
Yes, Ron Paul is the real thing, absolutely genuine, has been saying the same thing for his entire career, predicted the financial debacle two decades ago, does what he says he is going to do, has recently audited the Fed finding 16 Trillion in theft and waste, has recently written Anti-TSA anti- groping legislation. He wrote a book about ending the Fed, and then marched with followers on the Federal Reserve Bank.
He has taken on the PTB, named names, called them out.

Yeh, he is for real. Brilliant, genius, common sense, consistently Constitutional his entire career. He isn't going to change now.

As for the mason stuff, no he is not a mason.
notamason

You can google Ron Paul, and pull up his history at Wikipedia. You can find hundreds of Ron Paul videos on You Tube. You can find dozens of them here if you do a search for Ron Paul threads.

Ron Paul is the only candidate qualified to do the job. He is the only true Constitutional candidate.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


Thank Texas Uncensored. I'm not really superstitious. LOL. But I am curious about what others that are more knowledgeable about the subject have to say. The video is just one example I pulled off to give people an idea of what I'm referring to.

I think I have to agree with you that he is the best candidate. But unfortunately, I started following politics less than 6 months ago. Before that I buried my head in the sand like most of the general public. Now that I'm awake to the real issues, I'm doing the best I can to research & educate myself.

So I very much appreciate your input. And the note saying he's not a free mason. I guess any way you slice it, he consistently stands for what we need most in this country.
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I don't care if he's the grand dragon of the KKK if he can fix this busted ass country we should let him.
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Thanks lancifer93. I guess I'm not sure it matters either.

But if given the chance, I want the least poison possible! I guess there's a part of me that believes we can come together & spread a message that will bring about true change for our country & in turn, our world. And then part of me says, we are just stuck in this machine that is too big & too global to do anything about other than pray for God to intervene.

Anyway, I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst & trying to decide where to put my energy. If Ron Paul is the best choice for our next President, I will do my darndest to get the message out!
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Ron Paul is the least possible poison, but that well, well, leads to blind submission in the end. There is no possibilty what-so-ever of the Neo-Rome having a 'pure' candidate. At least he is the very least of the possible worst. His 'followers' (myself included) are the real R3VOLution, not the heads that pop up to try and supplant us.

It all starts at your/our doorsteps and develops from there.
Plan-Plant-Planet
But by all means, get political, learn the various arguments from all sides and candidates. At least Ron's is Constitutional. Under a Ron Paul Presidency your country will barely emerge from a miasma of political back log to even see the light of a new day (not dawn, specific) to rear its head. The long road to a dignified tomorrow is well off in the distance. There are no 'quick fixes' at this point. Ron Paul is strong medicine and that entails suffering.

I'm not certain myself if the average Joe/Sally are ready for a great ayahuasca like purge.
 Quoting: lancifer93


Really like your viewpoint here. WE have to be the change at the ground level.

I'm ready to join the R3VOLution. I'm ready to see people motivated to action & inspired to change! I'm ready to DO what I can!
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answer to your question... NO he is not, no matter what you thread together...
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ron paul is gonna let allot people down. no matter what.


but i guess if they can't see that EVERY one of these fuckers are paid off or life threatened and they're gonna do what tptb want them to do.
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They are deceivers who could less about us.

Freemason?
Yes.
Here's proof that he is part of the Brotherhood.


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wrong he has connections with freemasonry, he however is not, his father is
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Does anyone know for certain if Tim Pawlenty is a freemason?

Just curious...I found it so odd that McCain had him running all over the country stumping for him. And then--he picked Palin.

Now he was shown in the media a good amount this year...but he clearly didn't have the money (which is nothing to be ashamed of) or the personality to hold people's interests.

I think he's a stand-up guy and don't believe him to be involved in freemasonry. I don't think he's in the "club" concerning the elite.

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