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Income tax is a user fee for Federal Reserve Notes! >> Here's how to opt-out!

 
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Tax arguments always fail because the income tax scam is contract law. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation and the "money" we use is THEIR private currency. You are contracting with the Fed every time you endorse your paycheck and at the end of each year you have to make a RETURN of income. This is where the IRS comes in, they are the enforcement goons for the Federal Reserve and a private corporation as well.

So, how do you stop contracting with the banksters and opt-out of the Federal Reserve/IRS System?

By restricting your signature endorsement with your demand for lawful money (per 12 USC §411). This remedy is available to everyone and can be easily understood and implemented by the average person. You can start with your next paycheck!

Here's a fantastic thread with everything you will need to empower yourself to get started. This 66 page thread has some very knowledgeable contributors and a wealth of resource links.

Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

Stop endorsing Fed credit!
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Public Money vs Private Credit

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This document from Freedom League provides a brief overview of the fed scam and the remedy found therein.
[link to www.silverbearcafe.com]
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Federal Reserve Act - Remedy

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Website devoted to lawful money.

[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]
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I wonder if Wesley snipes was a member of that site.
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Website devoted to lawful money.

[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]
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cool thanks. followed the other thread, interesting stuff.
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P.S.

End the FED
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well, has anyone tried it and what happened?
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I wonder if Wesley snipes was a member of that site.
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I'm sure Willie Nelson was. Had to be... .
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I wonder if Wesley snipes was a member of that site.
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The wesley snipes thing was a MSM BS psyop.

btw, this is a non-smoking thread... cough.. cough...
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well, has anyone tried it and what happened?
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You first. If you send me a letter from the Federal Pen I promise to write back, but I'll have to hire someone to deliver the mail to you because I don't want them to know I knew you and my return address WON'T be on the envelope. chuckle
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well, has anyone tried it and what happened?
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You first. If you send me a letter from the Federal Pen I promise to write back, but I'll have to hire someone to deliver the mail to you because I don't want them to know I knew you and my return address WON'T be on the envelope. chuckle
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There's people talking about federal cases in that other thread; 66 pages is a lot to read, for me, I'm not sure I understand this all that well though.
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P.S.

End the FED
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Exactly!

Redeeming lawful money would put the Fed out of business.
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I wonder if Wesley snipes was a member of that site.
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I know Willie Nelson was for sure.
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Re: Income tax is a user fee for Federal Reserve Notes! >> Here's how to opt-out!
Tax arguments always fail because the income tax scam is contract law. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation and the "money" we use is THEIR private currency. You are contracting with the Fed every time you endorse your paycheck and at the end of each year you have to make a RETURN of income. This is where the IRS comes in, they are the enforcement goons for the Federal Reserve and a private corporation as well.

So, how do you stop contracting with the banksters and opt-out of the Federal Reserve/IRS System?

By restricting your signature endorsement with your demand for lawful money (per 12 USC §411). This remedy is available to everyone and can be easily understood and implemented by the average person. You can start with your next paycheck!

Here's a fantastic thread with everything you will need to empower yourself to get started. This 66 page thread has some very knowledgeable contributors and a wealth of resource links.

Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

Stop endorsing Fed credit!
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clappa
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bump
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12 USC §411

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
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TITLE 12 > CHAPTER 3 > SUBCHAPTER XII > § 411

§ 411. Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation; redemption

Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
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Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this?
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Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this?
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Please do.

Has anyone successfully done this?
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Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this?
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I'm not sure what you are asking. The links and resources I have provided are replete with testimony and examples of people redeeming lawful money. You need to examine them for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

If I had known of this remedy, I would have started with my very first paycheck. Unfortunately, I, like many others, got schooled (not educated) in the public fool system.

We are kept slaves through ignorance.
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Re: Income tax is a user fee for Federal Reserve Notes! >> Here's how to opt-out!
So what do you receive when you demand lawful money?

There is no more gold standard link so it is not convertable to that.

Silver certificates are gone.

The United States notes no longer exist.
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So what do you receive when you demand lawful money?

There is no more gold standard link so it is not convertable to that.

Silver certificates are gone.

The United States notes no longer exist.
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David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions.
-Public Money vs Private Credit
-Federal Reserve Act - Remedy

You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing.

US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's.

The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand.
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bump...and fuck the Fed starwars
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David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions.
-Public Money vs Private Credit
-Federal Reserve Act - Remedy

You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing.

US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's.

The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand.


So all we get upon the demand is more Federal Reserve Notes?
This is a stupid and useless thread.

It means the lawful money is the same as the worthless fiat money.

Buy real gold
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bump...for the ignorant, dumb-ass, gold-tards
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bumping for later review.
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btw, this is a non-smoking thread... cough.. cough...
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stoner Ah, you mean tobacco and pot shouldn't be taxed. Good on you bro...cough...cough.
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Be careful with this.

Since money market funds do not have a credit-creating charter, courts will most likely determine that this is your remedy. All (my) banks and even brokerage sweeps give you this option.

Of course you get low interest, but better than a regular savings account, and some of the stuff in money markets is questionable in today's economy, but don't be surprised when a judge tells you that's your remedy and you still owe taxes.

Read up and do your best to limit fractional reserve by using money market funds.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"a Money Market account (these do not have a credit-creating charter)"
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David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions.
-Public Money vs Private Credit
-Federal Reserve Act - Remedy

You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing.

US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's.

The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand.



So all we get upon the demand is more Federal Reserve Notes?
This is a stupid and useless thread.

It means the lawful money is the same as the worthless fiat money.

Buy real gold
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Buying gold is no different than buying anything else that can be bartered, and do you really think gold will be worth more than something practically useful if the world economy's principles aren't changed soon? Because if they aren't, it won't matter what you have to barter with, if hardly any people are producing useful good to sell, cause if policy isn't changed soon there probably won't be much selling going on.

OP, thanks for showing us another way the CORP GOVT has created a circular logic perpetual loop of bullshit. Trying to find remedy with the relationship before trying to find remedy for the issue causing the problem in the relationship may be the best halfway compromise, but what do you gain by compromising with a system that does nothing to compromise with you for what you want?

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