without humans would infinity exist?

Infinity would not exisit without YOU.

What does nothing look like?

By infinity are you referring to 8?

close your eyes for five seconds this is nothing .

what do you think really?

Would the 3rd dimension exist without humans? sorta goes hand in hand though I guess... But does a tree make a sound if no one is there to hear it? Who the fuck can know for sure huh??

Lol

the answer is yes.

Done.

A country estate is nothing?

a tree does make a sound even when no one is around.trees talk to one another.

Without a 'mind' conceiving, comprehending, and defining infinity or anything else for that matter there would be nothing and even that can not exist without that same mind conceiving, comprehending and defining it. Therefor we can conclude that every and anything that exists and/or does not exist, including infinity, is 'MIND'

-Alien Commander Omd I {human/alien channel}

Some people see infinity as time, others as symbolism.

the 8 was meant to by sideways. lol

What is infinite about the humans?

Our concepts of time and measurement prevent us being infinite in our current form.

How can a form be infinite?

It cannot be on a timeline. Take us off a timeline, no concept of time, no ageing.... we just are. We could sustain that for an eternity if we wanted.

And how do we get rid of time? Don´t tell me it´s not there - the changes are palpable in every moment.

That's an interesting question. I don't believe anything in this biological plane that isn't changed by time, other than spirit. Anything that has biological form in this plane, is subject to our laws of time, until something happens that proves that wrong.

Time is set by the rising and setting of the sun, but it is also reinforced by everyone and everything. I believe we are being pulled towards something.... A point in the future maybe.

There is smtg. that hush the raging time: the fractals in time.

smtg? Show me the goods? I can't concept fractals in time.

BTW, there are fractals in space too. Time-space is a continuum.

Finding a fractal is finding a way out of our dual world. You have to do your homework for yourself.

So, infinity does not exist.....with one caveat.
It does not exist.....in the physical universe.

If the physical universe is, as some suspect, a computer simulation....infinity was not written into the program.

So, outside the program, infinity might well, and in all probability does, exist.

It actually cannot be written into the program. Infinity is used to describe a magnitude.
Anything of magnitude in in physics is described along the scale of numbers and assigned a unit name...ie 10 feet.

Infinity is a concept defined as "everything".
There is also the concept of nothing. The word defines itself...it is no things. 0

This makes it a necessary part of everything...or infinity.

So for a case of infinity to exist in the physical universe, a reciprocal case of nothing must also exist.

Since physics has defined everything as "information", there would have to be a piece of information in its makeup that describes this nothing. But if it has to be "information" then it cannot be "nothing". So "nothing" cannot occur.

If infinity were part of the universe it could ONLY exist if "nothing" existed...or else it wouldn't be infinity.

If infinity tried to force its way in, cases of nothing would begin appearing quite randomly since there can be no rules for the existence of "nothing". Without rules, "nothing" would have no boundaries and it would pretty much swallow up everything.

So even in reality, infinity cannot exist.

Ok...What does this have to do with the question?

First, without humans, infinity, in the physical universe, would still not exist.

It's interesting that this whole step-by-step argument against infinity is mirrored in an old story about a certain programmer and why he designed a computer program of the universe.

The programmer was also the head of the corporation where he worked. He was in charge of hiring as well.

He had an awesome workforce under him with a level of senior VPs each of which carried out strict routines for the programmer unwaveringly. And they knew they were the cream of the crop. The programmer's code word for these guys was "angel".

One day the programmer decided to create an entirely new level for management with the code word "human". On the "human" level of management hirees were given complete freedom to choose what to work on. They could even do no work at all if they chose.

Well, a lot of the senior vps, seeing what this freedom of choice meant got really pissed off. This group revolted and one of them challenged the programmer, "These guys don't deserve being above us! They're not better at anything and I can prove it!"

So the programmer created a simulated universe as the arena for a trial to take place. The new hirees were to prove their value by interfacing with an avatar and, as a group, decipher the programming from within the simulation.
In order to do this, the humans could not be aware of, or be able to prove with certainty, that the avatars were part of the program until they were able to replicate the program.

As this deciphering process occurs, the leader of the revolting vps can try to interfere, along a specific set of guidelines, from within the simulation.
And as a punishment the programmer cannot return to his normal duties until after the trial.

The company where all this was taking place and the location where the company existed is named, on some maps, Infinity. So all evidence of Infinity needed to be removed from the program and the Universe exists separately from Infinity.

And this why why infinity is not found in the physical world.

Infinity is out there...just not in here.