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Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

 
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(99% vs. 1%), was a metaphor to describe what evil will do to deceive you: Unfortunately, what your bible is offering you, is well over 1% Lie!!! :(

More like 50/50......:(
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Could you name a few examples for me? - as I can understand what you mean.
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Sure:

1) Jesus NEVER made a whip, and whipped people with it......He was a Christed being, and NEVER would have done such a thing! This was the LIE that was given, in order to get the Man arrested!

2) Judas NEVER betrayed Jesus, for he was His closest and dearest friend.......now you know why the writers of the bible(the Pharisees), cast him in THAT role! :(

Just a couple places that are "out & out" lies!!! :(
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OK, now we can agree to disagree. Anyway, I will always appreciate you aren´t one of the lukewarm to the issue.
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I am going to head to lunch in a few. I will come back to this thread when I get back.


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Well ya closet muzzy, we will see judgment day.
Hope you realize the path your on.
Hells gonna be bad, but the Lake of Fire is eternal.
Jesus IS God.
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If you are moving toward YOUR "judgment", then good luck with that........but MY God(our God) NEVER judges anything......but MEN DO!!! :(
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
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That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Well ya closet muzzy, we will see judgment day.
Hope you realize the path your on.
Hells gonna be bad, but the Lake of Fire is eternal.
Jesus IS God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


This is biblical:

Jesus Christ is divine but He is not the Source of divinity. The Source of all divinity is but God, His Father.


The Trinity in God is anti-biblical, it´s pagan.
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OK, now we can agree to disagree.
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Well of course you disagree with me, your programming doesn't allow for anything else but......:(
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Re: Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!
2 reasons the 'bible' is religious opinions and assumptions and Spiritually worthless:

1. the is not the Word of God.
The Word of God is: Love.
a word is 1 (one) word, not a book full of words.

2. Our Creator aka God is Perfect;
the 'bible' is far from Perfect.

to go beyond those 2 reasons is a complete waste of time and energy.

peace be with You
 Quoting: theSeachingJones


The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers (Eph. 4:29)
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OK, now we can agree to disagree.
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Well of course you disagree with me, your programming doesn't allow for anything else but......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I am not programed at this issue. Have studied the Bible for decades by myself and compared to other inspired Scriptures through the world. I may be wrong, sometimes - but I have done all I could to deprogram my belief system.
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The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

 Quoting: Forge

This guy said he graduated from "bible college"! lol(now why do I find that so darn humorous?)

He thinks that because they used red ink in the place of black, that it must have surely been where Jesus was talking!!! Bet you all feel the same way? lol

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The lie of the bible is that there is a God from whom we must be saved.

Once you believe in the beast who will destroy you... the rest is elementary.

No 'savior' is necessary if no beast exists who wants to harm you. If there's nothing to be saved FROM, then there is no need for a savior.
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Ya, hopefully man will think happy thoughts and Fukishima will fix itself and prevent World War III from starting all with happy thoughts. Truly you are the way Peter Pan.

skull_fing
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Right, because the only alternatives are "wait for jesus to save us because we're humans and not responsible for ourselves or our actions" or "think happy thoughts and magic it into going away".

I'll take option number three: Humans are responsible for cleaning up HUMAN messes.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sounds good to me, so what are Humans waiting for? Why have they let it come this far? Why isn't Fukishima discussed daily in California seeing how it shares the otherside of the Ocean with Japan? Or perhaps we can agree in God's teaching that All Men are Evil and only seeks the desires of their own selfish hearts.
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Why bother? Why even get mad at the government for not doing anything?

If jesus don't save us, the aliens will...

That's your answer. The "savior" business REMOVES PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Rather than realizing there should be human action and response, people just sit around saying, "Oh well, humans aren't going to do anything. Neither am I. I'll just wait for Jesus."
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OK, now we can agree to disagree.
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Well of course you disagree with me, your programming doesn't allow for anything else but......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I am not programed at this issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

You say that, but it just isn't true! All of us are "programmed" in one way or another.........even I confess to being "programmed": I just hope it is by God is all! lol
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Re: Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!
2 reasons the 'bible' is religious opinions and assumptions and Spiritually worthless:

1. the is not the Word of God.
The Word of God is: Love.
a word is 1 (one) word, not a book full of words.

2. Our Creator aka God is Perfect;
the 'bible' is far from Perfect.

to go beyond those 2 reasons is a complete waste of time and energy.

peace be with You
 Quoting: theSeachingJones


The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

 Quoting: Forge


What you just posted is just religious opinions, assumptions, lies and deceptions that are beyond your mind-set comprehension...

you are obviously unaware that you were born with Wisdom.
Wisdom from Our Creator.
Wisdom that's not in a book.
and you didn't read my post...
so you go on my: Don't interact with List.
Have a nice Life.

Last Edited by theSearchingJones on 08/17/2011 03:47 PM
We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you.

God Bless You;
I Bless You;
Bless Yourself(~).

Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You.
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Re: Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!
2 reasons the 'bible' is religious opinions and assumptions and Spiritually worthless:

1. the is not the Word of God.
The Word of God is: Love.
a word is 1 (one) word, not a book full of words.

2. Our Creator aka God is Perfect;
the 'bible' is far from Perfect.

to go beyond those 2 reasons is a complete waste of time and energy.

peace be with You
 Quoting: theSeachingJones

Well I read it, and I applause2 it!
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Armageddon is Lucifer's plan:

It was NEVER God's plan to come down here and commit "Mass Murder" by burning up half the population of the planet for being wicked!

And who among us, has NOT been wicked at one time or another in our lives? lol
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OK, now we can agree to disagree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

Well of course you disagree with me, your programming doesn't allow for anything else but......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I am not programed at this issue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

You say that, but it just isn't true! All of us are "programmed" in one way or another.........even I confess to being "programmed": I just hope it is by God is all! lol
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Look, there are 3 stages of validation of any theory you can go through:


belief becoming

knowing becoming

being/doing.


Then ones´ belief is deprogramed and alife. Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.
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The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

 Quoting: Forge

This guy said he graduated from "bible college"! lol(now why do I find that so darn humorous?)

He thinks that because they used red ink in the place of black, that it must have surely been where Jesus was talking!!! Bet you all feel the same way? lol
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


See now you are running out of witty comments and are simply blowing smoke. If you want to be taken seriously, and there is doubt you want that, then start disputing specific tenets not trying to attack the messenger.

The fella in that video gave a decent history of bibles in general and why he came to the conclusion that the KJV is the correct translation of the scriptures and is God's word.

All you come up with is stupid remarks that don't mean anything nor have any sense behind them but your own subjective beliefs.
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers (Eph. 4:29)
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Re: Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!
2 reasons the 'bible' is religious opinions and assumptions and Spiritually worthless:

1. the is not the Word of God.
The Word of God is: Love.
a word is 1 (one) word, not a book full of words.

2. Our Creator aka God is Perfect;
the 'bible' is far from Perfect.

to go beyond those 2 reasons is a complete waste of time and energy.

peace be with You
 Quoting: theSeachingJones


The Bible is God's Word (KJV). One can see that clearly in each letter of every word. In the parallelism of the sentences. In the simple words used mostly with two or less syllables that require no dictionary other than the Bible itself to explain.

There are so many reasons that show why only God Himself could possibly have been responsible for that Bible the way it is written. But this fella describes it better that I why the KJV is the word of God.

 Quoting: Forge


What you just posted is just religious opinions, assumptions, lies and deceptions that are beyond your mind-set comprehension...

you are obviously unaware that you were born with Wisdom.
Wisdom from Our Creator.
Wisdom that's not in a book.
and you didn't read my post...
so you go on my: Don't interact with List.
Have a nice Life.
 Quoting: theSeachingJones


I did read your post you dolt. A man's word is his bond! Have you ever heard that? It doesn't mean one word, it means what he says you fool. God's Word is the Bible. Is that too big for you to grasp?

God is love, what is that? Some New Age crap again? I read it and looked past that silly putty.
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers (Eph. 4:29)
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Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.
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Say what? Since when do "beliefs" define what is real and what isn't?

I offered you 2 examples where the bible out-right lied to you........and you "agreed to disagree with me" simply because you chose to believe what you wanted to believe.......does that make YOU right? No, it simply means you have been misinformed by your research! You have drawn incorrect conclusions!!!
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Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.
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Say what? Since when do "beliefs" define what is real and what isn't?

I offered you 2 examples where the bible out-right lied to you........and you "agreed to disagree with me" simply because you chose to believe what you wanted
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


No, I disagreed simle because I lived my beliefs during the years and have my own practical referencies to what is and what is not possible to believe about Jesus living in this world.
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See now you are running out of witty comments and are simply blowing smoke. If you want to be taken seriously, and there is doubt you want that, then start disputing specific tenets not trying to attack the messenger.

The fella in that video gave a decent history of bibles in general and why he came to the conclusion that the KJV is the correct translation of the scriptures and is God's word.

All you come up with is stupid remarks that don't mean anything nor have any sense behind them but your own subjective beliefs.
 Quoting: Forge

If you want to believe in this fellas words(I mean after all he did graduate from Bible school), then by all means be my guest! But you are hiding behind his video, because you feel that "he says it better"! I do NOT agree!!!
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Since when do "beliefs" define what is real
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BTW, I did not say that - not even mean.
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God is love, what is that? Some New Age crap again?
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LOL......No, just the simple plain Truth of it!!! 1doh1
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Since when do "beliefs" define what is real
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BTW, I did not say that - not even mean.
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Then my apologies for misunderstanding you.....hf
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See now you are running out of witty comments and are simply blowing smoke. If you want to be taken seriously, and there is doubt you want that, then start disputing specific tenets not trying to attack the messenger.

The fella in that video gave a decent history of bibles in general and why he came to the conclusion that the KJV is the correct translation of the scriptures and is God's word.

All you come up with is stupid remarks that don't mean anything nor have any sense behind them but your own subjective beliefs.
 Quoting: Forge

If you want to believe in this fellas words(I mean after all he did graduate from Bible school), then by all means be my guest! But you are hiding behind his video, because you feel that "he says it better"! I do NOT agree!!!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


You think I say it better then is that it? Or you think that his reasoning is off? Where do you think he goes off in his reasoning specifically?

If you don't believe that the bible is God's word just because then that's OK too. It's your right to believe what you want to but don't expect others to buy it so easily.

Edit: and that "he did go to bible college" quip is supposed to mean what? Didn't you listen to the road he travelled in his learning and that he even went back to confront that college professor. You are being very shallow here.

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God is love, what is that? Some New Age crap again?
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LOL......No, just the simple plain Truth of it!!! 1doh1
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Uh... that's First John 4:8!

1 John 4:8

King James Version (KJV)

8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.
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Say what? Since when do "beliefs" define what is real and what isn't?

I offered you 2 examples where the bible out-right lied to you........and you "agreed to disagree with me" simply because you chose to believe what you wanted
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


No, I disagreed simle because I lived my beliefs during the years and have my own practical referencies to what is and what is not possible to believe about Jesus living in this world.
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So you believe that He "whips" the wicked?
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God is love, what is that? Some New Age crap again?
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LOL......No, just the simple plain Truth of it!!! 1doh1
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



Back to the basics:

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:10-12

Love Jesus preached was about keeping comandments.
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That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


These are some of the biblical truths, yes. But what is the 0,01 pct. of lies hidden in the Bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

(99% vs. 1%), was a metaphor to describe what evil will do to deceive you: Unfortunately, what your bible is offering you, is well over 1% Lie!!! :(

More like 50/50......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



Could you name a few examples for me? - as I can understand what you mean.
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To the German, AC:

Something that has always put me on edge about lies in the Bible is Paul. Christ had 3+ years to give us every instruction possible to be better humans, but instead of recoring everything He said, we get the same stories with sometimes contradictory information told to us, in some cases, 4 times.

Then, Paul, the adversary to the WAY, comes along, and during his campaign of eradication, he is suddenly converted; a story told to us not once, but 3 times in the same book of Acts and each time it is told, some minute detail contradicts a previous telling of the event.

From there, doctrines of women not being allowed to speak, having to have their head covered, a heirarchy of male-dominated deacons, etc. begins to emerge in his letters. It's almost like sowing dissent or disharmony from within.

If all of these things were so important that it takes up the lion's share of the New Testament, why didn't Christ bring it up?

To Obe,

Am enjoying the thread. I don't believe in re-incarnation, but I like some of your thoughts here. One question, is your belief system from self-realization by observation?

To Evan,

Nice to see you still asking questions. You and I have had a few conversations on 'christians' threads. I had the wrong impression of you initially and I apologize. I find you to be a very respectful poster. I was the one explaining to you how some of us were angry at having been lied to about the Bible, even in the Bible itself.
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Applying our beliefs is their proof they are real.
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Say what? Since when do "beliefs" define what is real and what isn't?

I offered you 2 examples where the bible out-right lied to you........and you "agreed to disagree with me" simply because you chose to believe what you wanted
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


No, I disagreed simle because I lived my beliefs during the years and have my own practical referencies to what is and what is not possible to believe about Jesus living in this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

So you believe that He "whips" the wicked?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Sure the wicked are expelled from the presence of God. Do you think they do it willingly?
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You think I say it better then is that it? Or you think that his reasoning is off? Where do you think he goes off in his reasoning specifically?
 Quoting: Forge

Oh my God, you are actually going to make me go back and listen to that video? LOL Can't you just shoot me in the head now or something??? suicide


Why would I want to debate the video, when he's not here to defend himself? :(

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Sure the wicked are expelled from the presence of God. Do you think they do it willingly?
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Yes, I do think THAT.......darkness ALWAYS flees from the Light! imho

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