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Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!

 
Evan03

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So in your beliefs are we punished for our bad deeds here, in the afterlife? If so what is the punishment?
 Quoting: Evan03

No, we are NEVER punished.......but we do punish ourselves sometimes(as you have already projected).....
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have a problem with that. There needs to be some sort of cosmic justice. If someone is a murderer or rapist and they don't get caught in this life, they need to be punished in the afterlife
 Quoting: Evan03

What if I told you that YOU were a murderer in your past life? Would you still feel like you had escaped judgment?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


What do you mean would I feel like I escaped justice?
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No, we are NEVER punished.......but we do punish ourselves sometimes(as you have already projected).....
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have a problem with that. There needs to be some sort of cosmic justice. If someone is a murderer or rapist and they don't get caught in this life, they need to be punished in the afterlife
 Quoting: Evan03

What if I told you that YOU were a murderer in your past life? Would you still feel like you had escaped judgment?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


What do you mean would I feel like I escaped justice?
 Quoting: Evan03

Well at some point there needs to be a return to "Balanced" behavior(the point at which people finally learn).......doesn't there?

.......And how can you do that, if you are continually punishing yourself(or expecting some God to do it to you)?

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I have a problem with that. There needs to be some sort of cosmic justice. If someone is a murderer or rapist and they don't get caught in this life, they need to be punished in the afterlife
 Quoting: Evan03

What if I told you that YOU were a murderer in your past life? Would you still feel like you had escaped judgment?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


What do you mean would I feel like I escaped justice?
 Quoting: Evan03

Well at some point there needs to be a return to "Balanced" behavior(the point at which people finally learn).......doesn't there?

.......And how can you do that, if you are continually punishing yourself?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat

Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid.
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I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...
 Quoting: Evan03

Ah, see what you just did? You saw OTHERS as evil......and gave yourself a pass! Why did you do THAT?

Evil NEVER gets away with anything......but to not accept that each of us has been evil at one time or another, is to deny our own learning process! imho

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I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...
 Quoting: Evan03

Ah, see what you just did? You saw OTHERS as evil......and gave yourself a pass! Why did you do THAT?

Evil NEVER gets away with anything......but to not accept that each of us has been evil at one time or another, is to deny your learn process! imho
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have never denied it, I was just speaking generally. I am a christian, I know I fall short.
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
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I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...
 Quoting: Evan03

Ah, see what you just did? You saw OTHERS as evil......and gave yourself a pass! Why did you do THAT?

Evil NEVER gets away with anything......but to not accept that each of us has been evil at one time or another, is to deny your learn process! imho
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have never denied it, I was just speaking generally. I am a christian, I know I fall short.
 Quoting: Evan03

Christian or no, there is not ONE person on this planet who has not committed murder in a past life.........so how do we get past the "punishment" for THAT?
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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Well if there are consequences, what are they? What do u mean it comes back to us?
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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I just think it would be sad to think the evil in this world never get punished...
 Quoting: Evan03

Ah, see what you just did? You saw OTHERS as evil......and gave yourself a pass! Why did you do THAT?

Evil NEVER gets away with anything......but to not accept that each of us has been evil at one time or another, is to deny your learn process! imho
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have never denied it, I was just speaking generally. I am a christian, I know I fall short.
 Quoting: Evan03

Christian or no, there is not ONE person on this planet who has not committed murder in a past life.........so how do we get past the "punishment" for THAT?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Whoa, whoa I dispute that!
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat

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ObeWayneKenobe (OP)

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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Well if there are consequences, what are they? What do u mean it comes back to us?
 Quoting: Evan03

This may be hard to believe: but many of those starving in Africa, were the very one's who played their part as elite on other planets who starved others!

Each of us creates our own way.......or so I am told!
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Ah, see what you just did? You saw OTHERS as evil......and gave yourself a pass! Why did you do THAT?

Evil NEVER gets away with anything......but to not accept that each of us has been evil at one time or another, is to deny your learn process! imho
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


I have never denied it, I was just speaking generally. I am a christian, I know I fall short.
 Quoting: Evan03

Christian or no, there is not ONE person on this planet who has not committed murder in a past life.........so how do we get past the "punishment" for THAT?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Whoa, whoa I dispute that!
 Quoting: Evan03

That's fine.....but it won't change the truth of it!

You must learn to look beyond "punishment"........and begin to understand God's way of teaching(through allowance of making mistakes)!

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Ok, got to pull away for awhile........I'll return later!

Have fun trying to make heads or tales of what I am projecting here......lol! ;)

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Ok, got to pull away for awhile........I'll return later!

Have fun trying to make heads of tales of what I am projecting here......lol! ;)
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Lady,

You got it all wrong

Do you want the truth now after your rant of bs??
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I have never denied it, I was just speaking generally. I am a christian, I know I fall short.
 Quoting: Evan03

Christian or no, there is not ONE person on this planet who has not committed murder in a past life.........so how do we get past the "punishment" for THAT?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Whoa, whoa I dispute that!
 Quoting: Evan03

That's fine.....but it won't change the truth of it!

You must learn to look beyond "punishment"........and begin to understand God's way of teaching(through allowance of making mistakes)!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



I deny I committed murder in a past life, even if I had past lives I would still have the same soul right? Well my soul is not capable of murder.
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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Ok, got to pull away for awhile........I'll return later!

Have fun trying to make heads of tales of what I am projecting here......lol! ;)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Lady,

You got it all wrong

Do you want the truth now after your rant of bs??
 Quoting: The Truth 4528267


OP are you still here?
Can you tell us what you know...
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Ok, got to pull away for awhile........I'll return later!

Have fun trying to make heads of tales of what I am projecting here......lol! ;)
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Lady,

You got it all wrong

Do you want the truth now after your rant of bs??
 Quoting: The Truth 4528267


OP are you still here?
Can you tell us what you know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 885548


Op response will be the following:

1. Read the phoenix journals

2. I know the truth and you dont

3. I am not new age
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I deny I committed murder in a past life, even if I had past lives I would still have the same soul right? Well my soul is not capable of murder.
 Quoting: Evan03

Soul is your connection to God.......it is that part of you that tells you that murder is NOT good!

And yet, consider this: Your bible teaches you that the "wages of sin is death"........and have you not sinned? Who among us has not killed ourselves because of our lack of knowing?

"My people parish, for lack of understanding....."

Perhaps that is why Christians find it hard to accept that there is more than one life........for how could they deal with the possibility that they keep doing themselves in? :(
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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


boy that says a great deal about you and your views


US and WE


truth

the Us and the We
Chill - Enjoy - Relax
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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


boy that says a great deal about you and your views


US and WE


truth

the Us and the We
 Quoting: Ice

Well did you think I would exclude myself from God's Laws?

Parish the thought........hf
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Christian or no, there is not ONE person on this planet who has not committed murder in a past life.........so how do we get past the "punishment" for THAT?
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Whoa, whoa I dispute that!
 Quoting: Evan03

That's fine.....but it won't change the truth of it!

You must learn to look beyond "punishment"........and begin to understand God's way of teaching(through allowance of making mistakes)!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe



I deny I committed murder in a past life, even if I had past lives I would still have the same soul right? Well my soul is not capable of murder.
 Quoting: Evan03


I doubt I ever committed murder either, but I can say once this life I made a stupid suicide attempt, only took a hand ful of aspirin during my senior year in high school and realized I didn't want to go and so went and threw it up. Suicide is self murder. I have had a LOT of past life dreams and not a one has had me murdering anyone. But I cannot say I have viewed all my lives. I am often defending right living in many of them. Often the leader of groups trying to right political wrongs on planets.

I had one not long ago where was a Pole or axis shift or other massive event, which I survived, but most around me did not. It was fascinating.
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OP, i am a young boy by the age of 12 and have been studying these things since 2008. i have learned so many things about the Illuminati and God and all these thing. since i am young i dont know what to do really. what do u recomend i do now.
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Read as many of the Phoenix Journals as you can........the Light of Truth from those writings will raise your frequency to a higher level, imho:

[link to www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com]
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Wrong dont beleive these lies

Those journals are written by cia programs like mannequin and Pegasus

People have defected out of these programs and have exposed them for being created by the gov as some type of psy-op for their end time control grid

these space messages are all just made up b.s.
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You are fully fucked up on this one. And it proves you are spreading lies without having actually read any of them, which is more serious that your lie you are spreading about their origin.


I run the 2nd coming organization and what is going on is true. These ones here are under command of the one called "Jesus" IN FACT.
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I doubt I ever committed murder either, but I can say once this life I made a stupid suicide attempt, only took a hand ful of aspirin during my senior year in high school and realized I didn't want to go and so went and threw it up. Suicide is self murder. I have had a LOT of past life dreams and not a one has had me murdering anyone. But I cannot say I have viewed all my lives. I am often defending right living in many of them. Often the leader of groups trying to right political wrongs on planets.

I had one not long ago where was a Pole or axis shift or other massive event, which I survived, but most around me did not. It was fascinating.
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It was a statement that Commander Hatonn made(can't remember whether it was in one of the Journals, or on one of the tapes)........but I recall, it didn't sit very well with me either, at the time! :(
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What is the "one lie" mixed in the 99% truth?
 Quoting: Evan03

That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


These are some of the biblical truths, yes. But what is the 0,01 pct. of lies hidden in the Bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

(99% vs. 1%), was a metaphor to describe what evil will do to deceive you: Unfortunately, what your bible is offering you, is well over 1% Lie!!! :(

More like 50/50......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


masterfully and cunningly woven together with symbol, metaphor and parable making it very difficult to know what is a lie and what is a truth.
Why would you think you could get karma for sharing your opinion?
You think your opinions are worthy of some kind of bad karma?
I invite you to release that fear of your cultural upbringing teachings my friend. It's baggage that will weigh your journey down.
~*~ gypsy heart
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Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Well if there are consequences, what are they? What do u mean it comes back to us?
 Quoting: Evan03

This may be hard to believe: but many of those starving in Africa, were the very one's who played their part as elite on other planets who starved others!

Each of us creates our own way.......or so I am told!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


of note on this one, many of the people in Gaza, are Khazar Zionists reincarnating there to die by the sword they used to murder others, dying by the sword of their own kind incarnate in the stolen Israel. If you do not correct your doings of darkness in this life, you will experience in the next or another, on the receiving end of what you caused to others that was negative.

Lucifer and his fallen angels were placed here to learn from the "inside" why what they served does NOT work.

There are about 10 billion fallen angels and galactic thugs working out their karma on this world. This is a prison ward.
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That Jesus is God........and will save you from your sins! :(

Jesus was NEVER God, but He WAS "One with God".....big difference!

And He saves nobody.......he said "So as you sow, so shall you reap"!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


These are some of the biblical truths, yes. But what is the 0,01 pct. of lies hidden in the Bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326

(99% vs. 1%), was a metaphor to describe what evil will do to deceive you: Unfortunately, what your bible is offering you, is well over 1% Lie!!! :(

More like 50/50......:(
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


masterfully and cunningly woven together with symbol, metaphor and parable making it very difficult to know what is a lie and what is a truth.
Why would you think you could get karma for sharing your opinion?
You think your opinions are worthy of some kind of bad karma?
I invite you to release that fear of your cultural upbringing teachings my friend. It's baggage that will weigh your journey down.
 Quoting: gypsy heart

I agree, it's time we look beyond what we think we know, and consider possibilities toward a better way!
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OP, i am a young boy by the age of 12 and have been studying these things since 2008. i have learned so many things about the Illuminati and God and all these thing. since i am young i dont know what to do really. what do u recomend i do now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531517

Read as many of the Phoenix Journals as you can........the Light of Truth from those writings will raise your frequency to a higher level, imho:

[link to www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com]
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Wrong dont beleive these lies

Those journals are written by cia programs like mannequin and Pegasus

People have defected out of these programs and have exposed them for being created by the gov as some type of psy-op for their end time control grid

these space messages are all just made up b.s.
 Quoting: The Truth 4528267


You are fully fucked up on this one. And it proves you are spreading lies without having actually read any of them, which is more serious that your lie you are spreading about their origin.


I run the 2nd coming organization and what is going on is true. These ones here are under command of the one called "Jesus" IN FACT.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Wrong sir

And you fit the profile for a sleeper also

Do you have any proof of anything?

didnt thinks so
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Ok Obe, let me run a theory by you, tell me what you think.

It is hard for me sometimes to put things into words, I will do my best.

Do you think our consciousness can create a reality for us?
I was thinking when we die, whatever we "believe" is what will happen and where we will go. If I am a Christian and believe in heaven and hell, and I die with what in my heart is a "good" soul, I go to heaven. It is a heavenin which my consciousness created. Or if I have christian beliefs and in my heart I condemn myself and feel unworthy, then I will go to a hell that my consciousness has created for myself.

When a Muslim dies they will go to the heaven that their consciousness has created for them. And so on and so on.

So basically we create our own destiny by our beliefs. I hope I explained this well enough.
 Quoting: Evan03

Yes, in many cases, this is exactly what happens.......however, you must keep in mind; that only those who are 'One with the Light' can truly create, all others can only be content to manipulate that which is already created....

So in many cases, Father may override certain choices for lack of understanding(remember Father measures the intent of the heart over actions sometimes)......notice I didn't say "Judges", but "Measures".
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Would your comment be in alignment with the movie, What Dreams May Come, with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding Junior?
~*~ gypsy heart
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Read as many of the Phoenix Journals as you can........the Light of Truth from those writings will raise your frequency to a higher level, imho:

[link to www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com]
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


Wrong dont beleive these lies

Those journals are written by cia programs like mannequin and Pegasus

People have defected out of these programs and have exposed them for being created by the gov as some type of psy-op for their end time control grid

these space messages are all just made up b.s.
 Quoting: The Truth 4528267


You are fully fucked up on this one. And it proves you are spreading lies without having actually read any of them, which is more serious that your lie you are spreading about their origin.


I run the 2nd coming organization and what is going on is true. These ones here are under command of the one called "Jesus" IN FACT.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Wrong sir

And you fit the profile for a sleeper also

Do you have any proof of anything?

didnt thinks so
 Quoting: The Truth 4528267


Yes I do and when I can find proof on the web of what me and my team put out, I post it. I go to craft regularly for meetings on the conditions present and our plans and so do others on my team. Jesus is probably my best friend right now, both of them, Aton and Esu that played the role 2000 years ago. I have met both personally many times and also many of the other returned ones at this time, Germain, Buddha, Soltec, Monjoronson, S333, Shekhmet and others. Also my soul mate is one of them, and did not incarnate with me this time and also from Paradise, and I work also with my guardian angel, who also has completed the great journey to Paradise. I know of what I speak.

This is our website. [link to www.abundanthope.net] AbundantHope is a partnership between many ones of us incarnate, and those returned ones above. This is a colorized image of a photo taken in 1961 of the returned Jesus, well Esu, not Aton. We would have a more recent one, and of me with him, if it wasn't for all the murder attempts upon us ground crew :esu with blue ey:
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Re: Those bible projections are from Lucifer........NOT God!
Thats what worries me about your views. To me common sense says we can't just go around doing what we want with no consequences. Thats satans plan for us. To do what FEELS good and ignore divine justice/punishment
 Quoting: Evan03

There are ALWAYS "consequences".......for Life ALWAYS returns to us, as we send it out!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


My own take on this is that life always returns to us what it is composed of, which is, some positive energy but mostly negative energy. Observation that the high amount of negative energy is a leading component which inevitably causes sickness, disease and eventually death and decay of things. It is the default program due to the high content in this planet. Everything is dying and decaying at all times, which I have observed in the high ratio of negative(dark energy- you may be more familiar with the term dark)
That is generally observable to all people who recognize positive/light and negative/dark ratios of energy in creative experience.


With old age comes the observation of decay even further. I've seen most older people decay with age and turn into a rather negative aspect of who they were when they were young and not so tarnished. Trying to beat the negative/dark ratio default program with age is a real gamble....but often a fun one for most people. Can they outwit the negative/dark game? Ah, the thrill of it all eh?

Now, what are the odds for consequences to return differently than the high negative ratio which is inherent in this planet?
...just asking your opinion on the matter if you don't mind?
Thanks.
~*~ gypsy heart

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